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I'm quite curious but how many times have things not gone according to plan and everything starts hating you guys

You should do Nostalgia Critic North next

I just realized kluh is hulk backwards

Have you guys seen any of officialduckstudios stuff

The video wasn’t over yet, you missed something.

Ha tfs right

But why is he green?

@@danielkemp7605 r/woosh

@@danielkemp7605 Definitely r/woosh.

@@danielkemp7605 I was quoting TFS's Broly abridged in response to the op. You didn't get it. It went over your head. r/woosh

You can actually see the constellations when Hulk's getting thrown into that planet by Broly's orb

Also Flash and Sonic should have been fighting through the background since they broke reality in there's too

Chuck and Segata are way above Hulk’s and Brolly’s tier. So they won’t bump into them.

@@zephyromega3077 Time stamp?

I know right I was waiting for them to show up too. Lol

I have to say, the fight was absolutely amazing, but I don't agree with the outcome.

@@ravenaussie3760 fight was amazing indeed but I still feel broly wouldve won but he would've been hurt more then this

@@dragons0914 Chuck debunked it, and he's a Dragon Ball fan.

@@ravenaussie3760 being a fan doesn't mean that much and unless the creator outright says it. There is no true debunking it.

@@ravenaussie3760 I can see your point. I love the hulk too. And I feel that he should've fought against a different dragon ball character that isn't either Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Beerus, or even Whis. Like maybe Nappa could've been more fitting to fight?

Yeah

They already did lol u just not on there channel enough to see it pop up

@@Quickscope69420 oh wow

@@Quickscope69420 wait no they didn’t I just checked

@@Quickscope69420 that's a straight up lie.

I wasn't able to tell, once the explanations and power scaling was over, I had my volume high enough to only hear Nate and Chad, once the battle started, the dialogue was kinda... no thanks.

But it has been shown before that Goku will use his enemies weaknesses to get the better of them if necessary. This is DEATHBATTLE, not a tournament.

Also they used every superman into instead of picking a version of superman each superman is hugely different from each other lol

@@Black_ReaperKai The problem with that logic is Superman has "merged" memories from other superman versions before and has learned subsequent memories from past lives. Since many of his powers he "learns about" aka it's not a new power he gained through mutation or something it's just he can always do it just didn't know how to till then, kinda makes all superman from krypton the same anyway.

@@Dallen12378 Well, the battle w/ Freeza wasn't a tournament yet Goku wanted him at full power. If anything, tournament fights are where rules get exploited. Superman has used his intelligence to win as well, Batman's just a master of prep time. There's also no guarantee that kryptonite would be conveniently present in the battlefield.

@@Black_ReaperKai They actually avoided Silver Age Superman b/c he's way too overpowered.

Who (judging from his track record, intentionally or unintentionally) makes his patients worse or incite violence.

Christ, they could have used the New 52 Superman and gave them a win!

Yep

What made me hate it was how easy they made the win.

While it was stupid how easily they made Superman win with basically no effort....it does make sense when you think about WHY he won and will pretty much always win against Goku….and not really think about how he did it. Goku is a character designed to have personal limits he can test and overcome where Superman basically doesn't. Yes, with enough training, Goku can eventually push past those limits and reach new ones. But Superman technically doesn't have any limits at all and as long as he is able to absorb the sun's energy, he will continue to grow stronger indefinitely.

@@bloodwolfgaming9269 I can think of a few ways Goku can win and thats in the Dragon ball Super manga where Goku can channel destruction energy into a hakai in a way similar to what Beerus. since destruction energy is different than regular ki Superman may not have a counter for it. You could argue that Supes can over power the blast similar to Freiza but he might not because Superman (Likely) wouldn't know about destruction energy and might try to tank the blast and not realize it until it's too late, and Goku mastered Ultra instinct allowing him to surpass Jiren (granted this wasn't full powered Jiern but it was the same strength used to surpass Belmond a God of Destruction) and Later match and overwhelm Jirens Full powered state. I don't think Supes ever fought and beat a being on the level of a god of destruction or a being like Jiern on his own.

Long live Vic.

imagined if Vic was never fired (I really dunno if he really is guilty of the "sexual harassment" allegations, its still not proven but still fired anyway) , it would've been perfect that he would voice Edward Elric and Broly in Death battle (er, unless there's copyright laws regarding characters and franchise.)

He’ll be back once those stupid allegations are proven WRONG.

Yeah, a lot has happened since 2016.

It all boils down to the Hulk itself being a creation of a lovecraftian Satan after the gamma bomb went off, literally opening a green door to hell

@@anthonyhudak9363 At this rate the comics are going to need another rebirth. xD

@@HB-fq9nn It's not just normal Hulk, it's a separate version.

I also find it funny that people say well Goku now has mui so he can win now but (maybe it is the other one) torquasom vo is literally the same thing as ultra instinct

When you you actually think about it goku wins straight up but for death battle they take everything in account and then adds it into the fight no matter how insane it is and if zen oh existed there wouldn't be a fight especially if they are a zen oh like being because they can just erase him

I don't think its a good idea at this stage since if they did give Goku a win it could easily be interpreted as "Oh they just did that to make people feel better.".

That’s how death battle will put Krillin in a fight and he wins for some reason

@@blazethehedgehog1159 Well, it depends who he fights lol. Krillin can easily win a few of his matchups, dude

@@wellteknically well it’s dragon ball so anything is possible

@@blazethehedgehog1159 what? Lol it’s all about who is stronger. If Krillin is stronger than his opponent, he wins. It’s as simple as that

@@wellteknically what about speed and durability strength everything though

Thanks Caleb

Thanks Caleb

*You're

Who is Caleb? Probably falling for a joke or meme here,but I gotta ask.

@@shadowjab1747 it's just something that people in this channel say when someone comments the time when the reaction starts

I mean...it's the *only* Season 7 finale...

I d say hulk is multiversal he went toe to toe with Zeus in his base form..but like always they have missed many things

@@mitchellmcivor7509coming back to this after a while but Hulk did lose to Zeus. He was just way too powerful for Hulk to even keep up and Brolys multiversal too. Remember Broly was stronger than base Gogeta who was stronger than Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta. Goku in base could at LEAST destroy a universe and the multiplier for Super Saiyan Blue could potentially be thousands. Add on Gogetas power with the same multipliers for for Blue, Brolys power is multiversal to an insane amount. His max power could potentially destroy millions of universes. And like they said Brolys power increases too just like Hulks due to their rage. Hulk would constantly be playing catchup while he tries to get to Brolys ever increasing power. Honestly it is just insane how OP they made Dragon Ball characters for no reason. I enjoyed older Dragon Ball because the characters had limits and they weren’t perfect. Then Super was introduced and they threw all that power scaling out the window and said fuck it.

Chad has no knowledge of how powerful superman really is in the comic's it's the reason why most marvel fans hate dc they always say that DC's characters are too op and especially superman is way to op.

@@willjohnboy I got a feeling that he'd still pick Goku to win over Hulk since he hasn't seen the new Broly movie.

@@jp3813 Goku against immortal Hulk? Not a chance. If he couldn’t win against Broly without fusing into Gogeta, then he’ll never win against Hulk, which DB later recalculated Hulk’s power to actually be around 98,000 base universal. Way more than Goku can handle even with this new base form in Super (though still way below Broly). Goku simply doesn’t have enough power to take down Hulk for good even with Ultra Instinct

@@Mojo1356 Try telling that to Chad, he'd just tell you to 31:52.

@@Mojo1356homie they literally said in the video JUST IN SSJ3 Goku was 30x stronger than Hulk. And considering just going from 3 to Blue could be a thousands of times difference and then factoring in Ultra Instinct could potentially be thousands of times stronger than that… Goku decimates Hulk Okay now I see your point. Them saying Broly is 98,000 could be insane but remember again TUI could potentially be millions of times increase. Considering Base Goku could destroy a universe and Blue could be thousands of times stronger than that. Goku combined Blue with Kaio-Ken x20 so however strong Blue is times 20. Goku with that power couldn’t lay a finger on Jiren and got one shot. And Jiren wasn’t even trying. Once he got to UI he was actually able to keep pace with Jiren and in the true white haired form of UI could fight on par and even beat Full Power Jiren. This all goes to say that UI could be thousands of times stronger than SSBKKx20. Let’s just do some quick math for fun. Let’s say SSB is a thousand times multiplier. Times that by 20 so you get 20,000. Let’s times that again by 1,000 for potentially how stronger UI is. That’s 20,000,000. Even if we give Hulk the absolute benefit of the doubt and say UI was only 100 times stronger than SSBKKx20, that’s still 2,000,000. Hell let’s lowball Goku even further and say it’s only 50 times stronger. That’s still 1,000,000. This is HEAVILY lowballing since like I said SSBKKx20 Goku wasn’t even able to touch Jiren but white haired UI could beat him in his most powerful state. Gokus also smarter than Hulk in terms of a battle. Gokus known for being an expert when it comes to his battle IQ and is one of the best martial artists in Dragon Ball. Anyway you slice it Gokus just way stronger than Hulk. Also even the argument of Hulk could just get angrier and then pass Goku in terms of strength wouldn’t work. Just like all the other fights Hulk had with a stronger opponent, he will eventually get overwhelmed and with a foe that’s this stronger than him, the likelihood of Goku ending the fight before he could reach a point further wouldn’t be that possible. Also not sure if you commented this before Thor vs Vegeta but I actually downplayed Goku more than what they said the strength was for Vegeta. They said in Blue Evolved he was multiversal by 260,000 times and that Goku in SSBKKx20 was on par with that. I lowballed Goku and said Blue Kaio-Ken was only a 20,000 times multiplier and not 260,000. If we do the same calculations I did with this new power level, if white haired UI was 50 times more powerful than Blue Kaio-Ken, Goku would be 13 times more powerful than what I said (13,000,000) If it was 100 he’d be at 26,000,000. And if it was at 1,000 he’d be 260,000,000. Hell just for the sake of it let’s say being oneshot to being able to beat a foe in Dragon Ball only required you to be 10x stronger. That’s still 2,600,000. So either way whether you use Death Battles calculations or mine, Goku is still much stronger than Hulk and smarter when it comes to a fight.

Vegeta is 1 and 1. He beat Shadow but lost to Thor.

Pretty sure regardless, almost any version of Hulk would still lose. Far as I know the most crazy thing I remember from Space Punisher Hulk is that he killed 6 or so Watchers. Only way I think Hulk would win if it was him possessed by the One Below All, but at that point its not really Hulk.

@@TheHobbes666 Very true. I only brought up Space Punisher Hulk as one of numerous alternate versions Death Battle could've brought up to boost up 616 Hulk's power potential and capabilities. After all, the Watchers may not get much recognition, but on the grander scheme of the Marvel Universe, they're up there in the Cosmic Hierarchy, and SPH singlehandedly slaughtered a good amount of them without even trying. That's impressive from any angle you look at it, and it's not a feat 616 Hulk has shown himself, whether as the Devil, Green Scar, or even World Breaker. Whether or not it'd make a difference for the outcome, now that's another story, and I agree with you. But would it make a difference for Hulk's maximum? Most definitely, and I'm proud they didn't go that route.

But couldn't Batman beat Superman even though he's overpowered?

@@bluecrush4903 That is what I dearly refer to as "plot shenanigans." It shouldn't be surprising when you have a character who has developed contingencies and strategies for nearly every possible threat. Bruce understands that Clark is overpowered, so he will make sure to milk the absolute Hell out of a Kryptonian's weakness, a.k.a. kryptonite, when dealing with a Superman gone rogue. Bruce will do that to literally any character gone rogue in his universe if given the chance, because... well, he's Batman. And plus, there have been times Clark just said "Screw it!" and pushed through, regardless of kryptonite. So yeah, if plot calls for it, Superman will surpass his own natural weakness through sheer willpower just to save the day, because... well, he's Superman. These characters are old, they've broken their own rules many times in different scenarios, but there is still some consistency when you focus on a single version for each character. You have a beginning for their journey, you've seen them grow, you've seen what they're capable of, and you know their limits, just like with any other character. But when you go out of your way to pinpoint each and every single moment throughout different continuities that showcase how overpowered a character can be, the other character will fall short in comparison, and that's exactly what Death Battle did years ago. There's hope now, for they've grown, and this video is the proof of that. They still have some things to work on, that's for sure, but at least if they give it another shot, it would be a far greater improvement, and they'd do both characters justice, without making one a flawless amalgamation of different versions, or downplaying the other one's true power potential and capabilities, and that's my entire point.

in goku versus superman 2, they only used mainline versions of each. and they literally explained why they can't compare them to people they've fought. It just leads to all kinds of inconsistencies. plus a lot of the debunks are... off. they frequently use outside logic or focus on only what they want too. and ultra instinct wouldn't change much, it's to similar to torqusm rao and vo.

Mostly bad writing

@@correlgamers7518it’s not bad writing the fuck. Batman knows the weakness to all of the justice league not just superman.

That is not a reference to TFS, TFS were referencing a line from the original Broly (that I don't think was in the dub, I don't remember it being in it) and was also in the video games.

@@marvelfantasy472 I consider it a reference to both

@@marvelfantasy472 In the dub, he says Piccolo asks if he always pick on children first, and Broly refers to himself as a "true freak".

In the Original Dub of the movie they Z Broly actually says "Monster? No I am the Devil Himself" but a lot of the re-release versions and re-dub changed that line along with the badass rock music that played during the fight to a generic Bruce Falconer theme (No disrespect he makes good pieces of OG DB music) but the Rock song was amazing and if i remember it was called "10's" by Pantera

Well it was also in large part due to the flood of requests they got for a rematch/reanalysis between the two, which DB uses to determine what battles the fans want to see. I see your point though.

It's not petty when it's fact, they received a lot of request and they had to make it clear to the DB fans that Goku isn't beating superman, other wise they would ask for 3,4 and so on until Goku wins so they are satisfied.

Agreed. Death Battle basically said "Superman is written so poorly he would win every fight". It's not about Goku, it's about Superman having a canon "I always win" card.

@@chefbreccia2642 that's obviously changed.

@@kotoamatsukami- regardless, we are not opening those flood gates a third time

@@kotoamatsukami- no it hasnt at all Superman is the same the character that he has always been

@@kotoamatsukami- It hasn't changed, Superman still wins.

Goku and buu are the only 2 out of the 8 dragon ball characters that has lost on death battle yet fans act like they never won anything

They also can't seem to grasp the fact that Goku is a character designed to have limits that he can always test himself with where as Superman was designed to not have any limits at all.

@@bloodwolfgaming9269 sigh where have you been ? The whole point of supers tournaments of power was to overcome those limits EVERY SINGLE TIME. THEY have no limits fools. UI proves that. Lmao a part 3 would be a slaughter

@@kotoamatsukami- Superman can choose to have no weaknesses and can terminate existence damn right it would be a slaughter.

He was a horror movie monster from the beginning

@@Omegeddonhey at least they didn’t use Titan hulk… hulk would’ve won then.

That's literally what I said when I first saw it.

Good news Javen Skywalker they actually made that video four months ago and it was awesome check it out when you have a chance.

This channel already had a reaction to "Hercule Satan vs Dan Hibiki".

@@billygreci9739 Then they must've forgotten about it.

@@Journeyagain0 Got it.

Yes

No, Roshi won

@@chrismanning2888 Ah, right, he did. Thanks for that.

Easy win for Hulk considering he has the better feats

Ikr

That's only the nerfed versions of Superman though.

Yeah but I doubt they'll do that since it means admitting they're wrong. I mean just look at Wonder Woman vs Thor, they nerfed Thor so hard that they may as well have usd his MCU version. and I'm pretty sure they straight up contradicted themselves on what Wonder Woman could do in a later fight when she fought She-Ra. It's stuff like that that has led me to believe that the crew at death battle pick who they think is going to be the winner, in certain matchups where the person who lost clearly should have won, and then craft a narrative around it support who they choose. Cherry picking the best feats and abilities for the one they want to win while disregarding things for the person they want to lose.

@@unversedhero6028 Sneezing Solar Systems away is one of his biggest feats and even that is a little difficult to measure his full strength. The infinite paged book doesn't weight infinite. Hell, I think they straight up admit its wei b ht adjusts to the holder in the comics

@@bradleybarnett1469 his biggest feat is breaking existence.

I think I'd recommend watching seththeprogramer's video on it, he does good job explaining it better

Bro Broly is based off of the Hulk

@@demoncyborg8700 Proof?

@@aienma6660 the more angry broly gets the stronger he gets hulk had that before broly existed and broly is big and color green and he says that hulk quote you wouldn't like me when I am angry

@@aienma6660 just read the comics and you'll see broly stole everything from hulk

@@demoncyborg8700 Oh wow, two characters have similar powers, there for its stealing. You are aware that nearly everything has been used, and reused, and reused again, right?

Months minimum

I've remember they mentioned in one of their podcasts that it doesn't count, unless they come back to life on the spot.

That's fair enough in my Opinion, and they all were entertaining espeacially Hercule vs Hibiki that was funny as Sh💩t.

It will, however, prove to be of the same outcome, and the Dragon Ball community will not be happy... so, I agree with you.

@@ravenaussie3760 I mean, I may be a Dragonball fan (in case my profile doesn't make that obvious) but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy watching people who care WAY too much about non-canon hypothetical fights between fictional characters getting butthurt by the outcome. I don't even care who wins, I just wanna see the comment section of that video lose their minds, because no matter what the outcome is, there's gonna be truckloads of salt.

@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince You and me, both, dude, it'll certainly be enjoyable for the sheer amount of salt that comes with it.

@Helios they’re never react to death battle in so long

Don't forget 18 and Roshi and Hercule.

@@chrismanning2888 oh shoot, right