Renzo Gracie awarded Carlos Gracie Jr. his red and black belt on behalf of all Gracie Barra, opening with a heartfelt, funny, and emotional homage to Carlinhos.
"While you are the nail hanging there, let them hit you, until the day you become the Hammer so then you, smashed them back" - Renzo Gracie To me & to others this is so true, cause even me a beginner in Gracie Jiu Jitsu gets beat and beaten by others, I too can one day beat them, but I give much respect to all jiu jitsu students & Instructors around the Globe.
I lost count of how many times I've tapped out to my friends/training partners. We always have respect for eachother, and learn from eachother. 20+ years later, I still tap out to preserve my instrument of a body. (It's the only body I get in this life).
@@dawidmikan2394 I’m a brown belt now since last December. If I haven’t took off two years I would’ve been black belt. But things happen for a reason and it’s part of the journey. Can’t believe it’s been 11 years since I commented on this video when I was a white belt😄. Jiu-Jitsu is forever a lifestyle for me and I’m in it for the long run.
It's not that uncommon if a higher degree black belt is not available and at that level (not many red belts are around). Renzo was chosen to present the belt on behalf of Gracie Barra. Remember Renzo is not promoting him just presenting.
I trained with Mater Monsur. He was one of only 5 red belts at the time. He was a great story teller as well he was a cop in Brazil. Had bullet scars on his body. I never got to roll with him, only his out of shape, black belt son. I was about 22 at the time and in really good shape and the chubby, balding mater's son handled me like I was fkn toddler. I've been traing 14 years now. I'm still not a black belt, can't imagine what it takes to get a red.
Red isn’t about technique The last belt that matters technique and other things is black After that is about how much you gave and contributed to the sport Coral Red and white Red Those 3 are about the teachings of Jiu Jitsu
There’s a reason why BJ Penn was nicknamed “The Prodigy” by Ralph Gracie, the Camarillos, Kurt Osiander, & others at Ralph’s school. He got his black belt in three-and-a-half years because he’s that damn good! BJ was beating guys with much more experience than him & won his division at the worlds less than a month after getting his black belt. Not too many guys can say that. BJ is not the only person to have gotten his belt in less than 4 years; Felicia Oh, Stephan Hall, Mike Fowler have also.
Renzo wasn’t promoting Carlos to his seventh degree, but was simply awarding him the belt on behalf of the Gracie Barra organization. You know the group he founded and leads. So technically he promoted himself, but had Renzo had him the belt. Seeing how Rickson at 8th degree was the highest ranking person at that ceremony you'd think why not have him give Carlos the belt? But Renzo being one of the original GB guys and his nephew, I can understand why he was chosen for the honor.
I train there and there's only 1 brown belt who just got promoted about a month ago. He's Pat's co-instructor and has been training there for much longer than 2 years. I call shenanagans
Rickson is very tough when it comes to giving black-belts!!! He is known for only awarding really great practitioners, after all, if you get it from him, you are a Rickson's Gracie black-belt!!! Good luck my friend, you'll need it along with much, much dedication! But it will be worth all the effort, believe me.
@carlsongracieteam After reading your comment about Rorion getting his red belt too soon, I realized that they did the same speedy promotions with Ryron and Rener. Both of them received their black belts in 2002 and by around 2007, they were both up to 5th and 4th degree (their present ranks). They're almost the same rank as their uncles and older cousins. Ralek’s promotions on the other hand are much slower. He got his black belt in 2007 and just barely got his first stripe this year.
@carlsongracieteam Your right for the most part, except that neither Rickson, Royce, or Carlos Gracie, Jr. are 9th degree red belts. Rickson is an 8th degree red and black belt, and both Royce and Carlos are 7th degree red and black belts. Also generally yes you do have to be at least 67 to get your 9th dan red belt, however, Rorion is only 58 and has been a 9th dan for several years. The IBJJF may not recognize his rank, but he did get it from Helio, who IMHO was the highest authority on rank.
After looking some more I found out that you go from Black to Red and black after 20 years of teaching BJJ and then you get Red after an additional 20 years of teaching. So you have to teach BJJ 40 years to become a grand master.
@carlsongracieteam True, Rickson and Carlos Jr. will eventually get their 9th dan red belts and deservedly so, but not Royce. He recently did an interview, where he said that now that Helio is gone, he will never accept another promotion above 7th dan. Royce doesn’t even wear his black belt or stripes anymore, he now wears a midnight blue belt in honor of Helio. Recently he did a seminar at the Gracie Academy and was wearing the midnight blue belt. Cool show of respect and love for his dad.
Escrito: Quinta-feira, 10 de fevereiro de 2011, 04:29:57 Saudações a todos. Tenho ótimo comando do Inglês, mas o Português aqui é proposital. 1) Qual o sentido dessa Homenagem ser feita em Inglês? Por que em vez disso ser na sede da BG no Rio, essa importante cerimônia foi nos EUA, se lá tudo é filial da BG daqui? Escolha do Mestre? O único ali que tem boa fluência em Inglês é o Renzo, enquanto o próprio homenageado, o Mestre Carlos Gracie Jr., falava um Inglês aos solavancos, e seu discurso ali ficou muito travado e inseguro. Penso que uma cena histórica e memorável dessas deveria deixar todos à vontade - e não foi o que houve ali. É pena que poucos alunos de GJJ do Brasil tenham acesso ao JJ hoje em dia, só porque esses Mestres vivem num "Brazil" 100% californiano... 2) A falta de um microfone decente, somado ao barulho constante (que parece o de crianças subindo escadas) torna inaudível o que eles falam. Mas isso não é novidade. Aliás, é uma constante. E mais uma vez, uma gravação histórica do Acervo Gracie foi arruinada por falta de bom senso. Parabéns aos que desejam que tudo isso seja ignorado pelos que não estiveram presentes, e rapidamente esquecido pela História. Sua intenção foi atingida com êxito.
This is something I never realized before until watching this video. Renzo says that he received his black belt from Carlos Jr. even though Renzo's own father Robson is a much more very high ranking black belt himself (9th dan). Why did Renzo get his black belt from his uncle instead of his father? Did any of Robson's other sons receive their bb from other family members other than him?
I am not an expert but from what I understand the Red & Black belt means he is an 8th degree master in BJJ. The Solid Red is the 9th Degree Grand Master. To be an 8th degree takes Years and years to get and there are only a hand full of 9th degree. Maybe only 3-5 in the world
@vboytan Carlos is a 7th degree and Renzo is a 6th degree. I believe at that time Renzo was still a 5th degree and was promoted to 6th a few months later. Also if I'm correct Renzo's older brother Charles should be getting his 7th degree sometime this year. He's been a 6th degree for about 7 or 8 years now, so he should be eligible to receive it now.
I think its because its hard to find someone who is a red/black belt so they (whoever decided to promote him, i dont know who decides to promote people to red/black belt) asked him to give him the belt. I think.
gracie academy is run by rorion gracie & his sons (rorion is master helio's oldest son). gracie barra is run by carlos gracie jr (son of master carlos gracie sr.). gracie barra is considered as one of the greatest if the not the greatest competition teams in bjj.
i've heard, i always thought you had to be a black belt in order to run a school,thats what my old teacher cassio werneck tought me (you should youtube him,hes pretty badass) but my rickson gracie teacher branden hetzler is only a brown belt and he runs the school here in sacramento,he said its taken him 8 years to get his brown and rickson told him he will be 1 of very few to get his black in under 10 years, i guess there are only 7 rickson black belts out there
@carlsongracieteam I would love to know what the other members of the Gracie family really think of Rorion, Ryron, and Rener's promotions. Unfortunately even with some of their personal quarrels, I doubt that most if any of them would speak on the matter. I think that the only one who would say anything if he was still alive would the late great Carlson Gracie. In all the interviews of him I've read, he seemed to always tell it like it is.
@em729 Renzo is “presenting” the belt to Carlos on behalf of Gracie Barra, CBJJ, & the IBJJF (all founded and run by Carlos) and not actually “awarding” it to him. He’s done a lot for BJJ and has trained since the 1960’s and definitely deserves the rank. Funny thing is, that all of Carlos' older brothers are higher ranked, including Carlos Robson (Renzo's dad) & Reyson, who are both 9th dans, & of course his uncle Helio at 10th dan, yet he promoted himself instead of receiving rank from them.
@joeyp978 When it comes to Red Belts, I don't know how that works. But you can't give higher and or equal to your belt. If you train under a blackbelt, you can get a four strip brown, but until they go to a black with 1 strip, they aren't allowed to promote you. At least that's the way I've been told, and that comes from Rey. I think a lot of those people, the Black belts with the degree's etc. They stop caring about it. I know a forth degree Black he doesn't care to ever go up.
I'm curious about something and hopefully those of you affiliated with Gracie Barra can help. Carlos Jr has 2 older brothers who are 8th dans and and 3 (living) older brothers who are 9th dans. One of those 9th dans is Carlos Robson Gracie, Renzo's father and technically (with the passing of Carlson Sr. RIP) the patriarch of their side of the family. How come none of them got to present Carlos with his 7th dan? Is there a rift between them? Will he not except rankings from them? Anybody know?
ten to 15 years? on average a person gets there black belt in 10 years if they stay faithful and dedicated, a red&black is anywhere from a 7th to 9th degree black belt, my guess is hes been doing jiu jitsu since he was a child so probably about 35-40 years
You have to stay at each black belt rank for 3 yrs up until 5th degree then it's every 5 yrs. By the time you get 2nd degree black you've been black for almost 10 yrs. I got my black belt in 8 yrs to the week training 5-7 days a week.
Helio didn't like the IBJJF & its rules concerning competition & rank promotion. For instance, the IBJJF states that the minimum age for 9th dan red belt is 67. Helio promoted Rorion to red belt when he was only 51, as an F.U. to the IBJJF, but mostly because he was already in his 90s & wanted to promote his oldest to red before he passed. Ryron & Rener were asked about their ranks once, & they said that Helio gave those ranks to them, and who were they to argue with whatever rank he gave them.
Well, watch carefully the belt, that is a Japanese belt, this kind of belts are three different type " red and white, black and red, blue and white, in Japanese Ju Jutsu / Judo / and some Karate style, person get the red with white, or black with red, in Judo person get the red and white, or blue and white, in this video Renzo Gracie giv the black and red belt, to this men, in Japan that belt is call Master Belt and is giving from an 8 -9 Dan .
