Rep. Barbara Lee: The Lessons of 9/11 | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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California Congresswoman Barbara Lee joins Bill Maher on the eve of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 to reflect on her vote against military involvement in Afghanistan.
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@batgurrl 3 года назад

Thanks Congress woman Lee for being the lone voice of reason back then. You are correct about the dangers of groupthink.

@Mrbink01 3 года назад

Same goes for the rest of the groupthinkers who opine "we need to do something" after any shooting. They dont think about the lasting impacts.

@Nathan-gd7xq 3 года назад

Groupthink is in the eye of the beholder. For example, anyone who is against the covid vaccine will accuse the other side of groupthink.

@AlexanderDunetz 3 года назад

My Monterey Park (CA-29) congressman was George E. Brown Jr. (1963-1971). He voted against the fake LBJ "Gulf of Tonkin" resolution that got us sucked into the civil wars of Vietnam , Cambodia , and Laos. He was the only dude to do that. Then while i is at Berkeley , Ron Dellums is my congressman (CA-13) for 26 years ..... he always be hounding the criminality of our incursion into Vietnam. Dellums (a USMC vet) became chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. My congressmens have been OUTSTANDING muthafuckees , RIGHT ON !!

@Rays_Bad_Decisions 3 года назад

There were more back then that spoke up but one by one they became bribes and all left in disgrace over the years. It was a weird time, normal people that spoke up might find them selves on a no fly list or getting harrassed by the government. Honestly though the current DNC is just an evolution of the same. Now they will even debank you and just censor you from all media

@allsidecostarica 3 года назад

TOTALLY, humans need to stop tribalism and political Identity also.

@riledmouse4677 3 года назад

Long live this wonderful woman. She gives me hope.

@NelsonMontana1234 3 года назад

You bought that, eh?

@jimmyfall9302 3 года назад

Really? She’s a politician. She’s paid to lie to you. It’s in her best interest.

@RM999ll 3 года назад

It’s hard to reason with people that are paranoid and will not trust anyone unless they have the same thoughts as themselves.

@riledmouse4677 3 года назад

@@RM999ll this! 👏👏👏

@dojo3175 3 года назад

@Alex From Boston what did she say we should do then? I honestly don't know whether she proposed an alternative. If all she did was say we shouldn't go to Afghanistan and you are praising that, you are giving her credit for no reason. What was her alternative?

@sofiecarr249 3 года назад

A woman of valor. Yes there should be an award for her it took great courage to stand up To the majority

@LemurWhoSpoke 3 года назад

I wrote opinion pieces for my university newspaper back then, and I opposed both wars, fighting both Republicans and Democrats. The "you're either with us or against us" mentality was so bad that the College Republicans reported me to the FBI, and I had one evening where a black car with federal plates and heavily tented windows followed me as I drove in circles around the block to annoy them. I'm just glad voices like Barbara Lee weren't silenced back then.

@ChristopherCricketWallace 3 года назад

OMG This happened to me, too! They visited me on campus a few times because I had dissenting opinions about the motives of war and the long term consequences of the responses to 9/11.

@snet9693 3 года назад

Wow!

@fuckamericanidiot 3 года назад

That's a hell of a story even today

@sekenamcmurren2217 3 года назад

Facts!🗣️

@AlexanderDunetz 3 года назад

Alex : i is trying to rescue Brasil from the ensnarlment of military golpe (dictatorship). I gots 5k "Fiends" on Fakebook (FB). Most of my Brazilian FB "Friends" are FASCISTS !! They love their combustion engines , agricultural export economy , and Sunday pork BBQ's. The three issues I focus upon : Covid Gólpe (military coup) Bolsonaro (Trump of the tropics) From this here wheelchair or couch i can blow wisdom or snot on these "white" Brasilian fascists all day & night. i suspect we have a decent chance of democratically overthrowing the azzhole Bolsonaro in their 2022 national election.

@thjbird 3 года назад

Anyone who thought it wasn’t a smart move was harassed.

@Rager_U 3 года назад

Hell, that was even true of Iraq. And we had ZERO business going there.

@NelsonMontana1234 3 года назад

And anyone who thinks it was conducted properly is ill informed.

@adambomb30 3 года назад

For us older people who lived through all that, anyone who questioned going into Afghanistan or Iraq was called an America hater or a communist and then later if you questioned us being there you were accused of "hating the troops".

@andiman45 3 года назад

@@Rager_U yes Iraq is hardly mentioned now but instead now Afghanistan. How many civilians died there?? Yikes

@mongoose6685 3 года назад

Leaving al quaeda intact was impossible.

@sidneyonukwube3096 3 года назад

"I was the first one to say we needed to go to war!" Dick Cheney

@sarysa 3 года назад

Is it a victory lap? Probably. Has she earned it? Hell yeah.

@justanotherguy7925 3 года назад

Sadly nobody won in this situation except the Taliban. There are no victory laps to be had. When Bush sent our military in, back when this country was unified, I don’t think his plan was to still be there 20 years later. A case can be made for why we shouldn’t have gone into Iraq, but at the time, Afghanistan was the right call. A case could be made that trying to convert an ancient civilization that is so different than us into a democracy was a fool’s errand. It did provide 20 years of relative peace and opportunities to children and women that they didn’t have before. It’s a shame after all the resources it couldn’t be sustained.

@sarysa 3 года назад

@@justanotherguy7925 I supported it at the time as well, but I thought we'd get in, focus more on Al Qaida, and get out. I mean I was naive as hell when it came to politics at the time, but Lee understood the workings of the military industrial complex.

@justanotherguy7925 3 года назад

@@sarysa I thought we would just go in, get the people we needed to and get out too. Logistically I realize this wasn’t easy given the terrain and that some of our “allies” like Pakistan were helping to hide them. Rebuilding a civilization was a tall order.

@Galactis1 3 года назад

She sounds like a pretty good lady to me.

@milhouse9003 3 года назад

Barbara Lee should be Speaker of the House.

@force263 3 года назад

Right. Cuz Pelosi isn’t the greatest SOTH, if not ever, then in a very very looong time.

@stevenwilliambaylessparks3730 3 года назад

Sounds so sane and simple; unfortunately, there's no big money in it.

@AlexanderDunetz 3 года назад

Barbara Lee and Ron Dellums , two patriotic Americans.

@BlueBaron3339 3 года назад

Agreed. And no more stately man has ever lived than Ron Dellums.

@afterburnerfox 3 года назад

Ron paul too

@carls.1000 3 года назад

Barbara Lee is a true American Hero, the very, very rare politician that does what she thinks is right not what is easy.

@dojo3175 3 года назад

So what did she say we should do about 9/11?

@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 3 года назад

@@dojo3175 She sided with the terrorists in Afghanistan and the Communists in Cuba. Anyone who praises Castro the way she did is obviously a terrible human being who gets off on human suffering.

@StephySon 3 года назад

@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr clearly she should’ve been like every other war monger and sided with a pointless war like ya ass

@jusmecatalina 3 года назад

@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr why do we need to be involved in Cuba today? This savior complex needs to stop. The rest of the world does not need to look and act like the USA.

@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr 3 года назад

@@jusmecatalina Whether you believe that or not, this crazy woman celebrated the life of Castro, a man who tortured and killed thousands of innocent people. He caused millions of people to starve and he stole from his own people. Castro is one of the most evil men in history, and she talked about him as if he was some god-like figure. She is an actual Marxist and a black panther. I have no idea what the fbi does, and why she hasn't been flagged and investigated defies all logic. She's a monster.

@svscared 3 года назад

I think she would have been a better VP choice for Biden than Harris.

@nafisahibrahim4291 3 года назад

She's too Dark for the sheeps. They needed someone ambiguous.

@thegodfatherofthesec1748 3 года назад

We’ll never Forget 9/11 ! It’s my Birthday. Thanks Bill .

@blatherskite3009 3 года назад

What America should have taken away from 09/11 was: "Having our city turned into a war-zone, our buildings destroyed, and our innocent civilians killed feels REALLY horrible, in an unforgivable and unforgettable kind of way. Hey, maybe we should stop doing this kind of thing to other countries and expecting them to be grateful for it?"

@eileennovak1656 3 года назад

Congresswoman Lee is 💯correct. We could have the finest health care in the world for a fraction of what we spend fighting other's wars. Afghanistan has had babysitters fighting its battles for centuries. LONG OVERDUE getting out of there.

@curiouscat3384 3 года назад

Oh but that wouldn't feed the mouths of the hungry military industrial complex (sarcasm). War mongers and nation builders are motivated by power and money. The noble "nation building" propaganda is just a cover.

@jopo7996 3 года назад

If we didn't pull out of Afghanistan quickly, Texas would have made us abort the mission in less than 6 weeks anyway.

@taylorh.3484 3 года назад

Damn that’s cold! 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

@bilhamcobbly2957 3 года назад

And sued any participant in its action?!?!?!?

@souravdatta9990 3 года назад

thats a good one…damnnn😂

@r.d.w.molenkamp1276 3 года назад

Golden xD Should become a bumpersticker xD

@davidplyler8173 3 года назад

Comedic fail.

@richardoshea7133 3 года назад

I'm certain that the advice to never make decisions based on emotions isn't a lesson that could only ever have been learnt from that incident. To be honest, I was kind of expecting a level of sensibility from our leaders that clearly did not and does not exist. If you only look back 20 years all you will learn is what we could have told you to begin with.

@Neenerella333 3 года назад

While I agree, the American people wanted retribution. The leftiest friends of mine even came together not only to care for their fellow Americans, but to demand action from their leaders. The exact initial action that was taken in Afghanistan, though most did not really believe Iraq had anything to do with it. #flagpin

@0ntimetaiment921 3 года назад

Exactly. The first thing I thought when she said that was: But isn't that why we have representatives and hired professional national security personnel? Those things are supposed to protect from mob decisions. But only if the representatives are better people than the mob itself.

@altonhumes5782 3 года назад

A smart woman, Madame Representative Lee. Too bad more idiots have arrived on the Congressional floors who can't be contained. #RealTime #RememberForever.

@texajp1946 3 года назад

Republicans gave us tax cuts for the rich, 9/11, iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina, 1/6, pandemic, and the corporate neoliberal democrats are complicit

@MavicAir1 3 года назад

Well said.

@tinytim71301 3 года назад

@@texajp1946 right on except Katrina. I live there and that was all Democrat mayor incompetence. Hundreds of buses left parked etc.

@bigelowtech 3 года назад

@@texajp1946 Republicans gave us 9/11? Natural disasters? The pandemic response was incredible, except for the Dem. states, so can't really blame the federal government there. They're all on the same team, so doesn't matter if you vote red or blue in the big picture, but it matters that you do like you did now. Blaming one side for extremes, creating ultra polarizations. We are Americans, and without a strong unity we will crumble. Different opinions will be the downfall of America first, if it leads to what the democrats have been doing for 20 years.

@dparky1627 3 года назад

@@bigelowtech, you’re absolutely correct. The hyper-partisanship will ultimately be our downfall. We’re so busy blaming one side or the other for everything instead of trying to do what’s best for the American public.

@Brett_S_420 3 года назад

I did a report\speech in my conservative school in 2002 about how things would go in Afghanistan and what would happen if people went along with Bush & Cheney's plan to go to Iraq. Man, my classmates were PISSED. I wish I wouldn't have been so right.

@ili626 3 года назад

Many Americans realized we were acting irrationally out of emotional reaction. Why our voices could not be better heard was a tragedy

@heidih3176 3 года назад

I’ll take ‘who are the Neo-cons’ for a $1000, Alex.

@texajp1946 3 года назад

Republicans gave us tax cuts for the rich, 9/11, iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina, 1/6, pandemic, and the corporate neoliberal democrats are complicit

@heidih3176 3 года назад

@@texajp1946 - there are no democrats and republicans, we have two puppets that work for the same master.

@jared1964 3 года назад

@@snaggalfrash9013 But this is literally what leftists have been talking about ... It's a matter of waking people up ... Both parties do not have our interests because they are corporate-owned

@jerryjones7293 3 года назад

"Fear is the mind killer."

@koohanpaik-mander7567 3 года назад

Please support Barbara Lee's bill to cut the defense budget. It does not have to be $800 billion for just one year alone.

@crystalskiss199 3 года назад

Thank goodness for her, she really won.

@fredricclack7137 3 года назад

Hear, Hear, Bill!

@warlockpaladin2261 3 года назад

It was Irving Kristol who conceived the idea of "unifying the nation", he just needed a few Saudis to help him carry out the plan.

@janelliot5643 3 года назад

Barbara Lee is my hero!❤

@jakemf1 3 года назад

Little solace, when it’s all emotions we all just react to problems not respond. Huge mistakes happen when that type of decision making is almost always unwise

@NewMessage 3 года назад

"Unified in our response" isn't gonna be possible for a good, long while, I think.

@freedom3594 3 года назад

Because unification would require people identifying as Americans first, not whatever identity gets them the most victimhood points. So, sadly you are correct.

@marvinmartion1178 3 года назад

Not until fox propaganda network is shutdown!

@agf1700 3 года назад

@@marvinmartion1178 Absolutely. The law that States ALL news media has to be balanced should be brought back. Reagan got rid of that to the detriment of U.S. society.

@Marijuanifornia 3 года назад

There is a unifying factor that everyone overlooks- legalize marijuana. The 1942 USDA film *Hemp For Victory* was filmed in Kentucky from where Mitch McConnell directs Congressional Republicans to stifle any Federal Cannabis reform, while simultaneously bragging on the campaign trail about his hemp farming bill. The solution is obvious: make the 1942 USDA film *Hemp For Victory* go viral so that midwestern Conservatives and coastal Progressives alike can legally be growing Cannabis Sativa again to support our police and military, replace foreign imports, bring manufacturing jobs back from overseas, defund the war on drugs, reduce pollution, replace fossil fuels, end deforestation and stop climate change. There was a bill in Congress titled the *Hemp For Victory Act of 2019.*

@Zetawytte1777 3 года назад

@@agf1700 The Fairness Doctrine ( I think that what your talking about) only applies to broadcast which are free for all and doesn't include cable or internet because they are services you pay for.

@tinytim71301 3 года назад

She’s smarter than Pelosi, far more articulate. She should be Speaker.

@riledmouse4677 3 года назад

100,000%.

@subzeroarctics1299 3 года назад

I'm probably too young to know, but why is she the Speaker? Did she accomplish something significant before?

@franklin9400 3 года назад

@@subzeroarctics1299 Every 2 years when the house reelection occurs. The whole House of representatives votes on a speaker, obviously the majority side wins the vote. They pick the person they want in charge. She is just the recognized favorite at her age of 81. Also since she represents the district of basically all the tech giants, who she is in control of regulating.

@tinytim71301 3 года назад

@@subzeroarctics1299 The accomplishment was a Democrat saying something logical and rooted in reality. That’s exceedingly rare these days.

@matejebach5487 3 года назад

She can't, not enough corrupt and not enough white.

@Misses-Hippy 3 года назад

Barbara Lee for president! A very sensible woman.

@richardrosebealprestonjohn3144 3 года назад

One smart woman!! Barbara Lee!!

@piconano 3 года назад

Get rid of her! She makes too much sense, and is a danger to the sheeple.

@fathergabrielstokes4706 3 года назад

20 years later, we have not forgotten 🇺🇸

@bhg123ful 3 года назад

An honorable and amazing woman, but she didn’t answer one of Bills questions: “what kind of group think are we engaging in today that twenty years later we’ll be looking back shaking our heads?

@riledmouse4677 3 года назад

I think she did answer it. She’s saying to stop pouring money into these foreign wars and “nation building” missions, and to invest in domestic priorities.

@bhg123ful 3 года назад

@@riledmouse4677 I wonder if Bill might have something else in mind - like woke hysteria, cancel culture, excessive covid restrictions, things that many people today support but might look back 20 years later with “what were we thinking!”

@THATBOISHAD 3 года назад

@@bhg123ful Not really

@NelsonMontana1234 3 года назад

@@riledmouse4677 Cliche' soundbites with no substance. And you fell for it.

@explosivehotdogs 3 года назад

She did - stating that it isn't a matter of group-think which we will be looking back on, but rather whether or not we learn lessons from our failures. She then provided some examples based on her perspective. #listeningcomprehension

@sandrajohnson3386 3 года назад

Such an intelligent woman

@h20s56 3 года назад

Question, where should we have gone? Should we fight this war on our turn or theirs? Guess what, we just decided to fight it on ours. This war is not over. 100% agree on not nation building.

@terrencealford4604 3 года назад

We sadly will never learn the error of our ways🥲. Thanks Barbara for being a voice of reason in a sea of revenge-thought!

@kevinbossick8374 3 года назад

You would think we learned our lesson after Vietnam.

@TikiAce 3 года назад

We need to build our own nation before we can even think of building others!

@patunderhill35 3 года назад

Wow, how great to see a politician articulate sane, intelligent responses to complicated issues. Maybe Boebert, Green, Jordan, Cruz, Gaetz, and Graham could learn?

@luisreyes1963 3 года назад

Doubtful, it would be like having a frank discussion with a cinder block.

@geejaybee 3 года назад

Indeed, and the Dave applies to all members of the "squad". Simplistic and ill informed.

@justjackie7272 3 года назад

She makes me Proud to be a American Black Democrat Woman !!!!

@Just_logic 3 года назад

If anyone believes that such a complex operation was carried out by bunch of 19 year olds lead by a guy in a cave is very naive.

@fabioortiz7729 2 года назад

There’s an interesting RU-vid “who got rich off the war in Afghanistan.” Lots of money, blank checks essentially, to shady contractors. Repulsive indeed.

@Just_logic 2 года назад

@@fabioortiz7729 according to news 2.3 trillion dollars was spent in Afghanistan. When building # 7 was brought down on 911, which was owned by CIA, 2.3 trillion dollars traces of money was lost. We’re these two numbers a coincidence??

@gelgiz5039 3 года назад

Wise woman!

@76chrisartist 3 года назад

Barbara Lee for president!

@buttercupbaby891 3 года назад

Every time I hear trillions & trillions of dollars was spent, I think that was enough to make every American citizen a millionaire & still have money leftover.

@a.d.4536 3 года назад

Math is not your thing it seems

@buttercupbaby891 3 года назад

@@a.d.4536 Maybe not yours. The US has a population of 330 million.

@riledmouse4677 3 года назад

@@buttercupbaby891 we didn’t spend 320 trillion dollars on the war, but I get your point and damn that’s shocking.

@buttercupbaby891 3 года назад

@@riledmouse4677 I was going on what Rep. Lee stated. She said trillions & trillions was spent on that war & the US has roughly 330 million people & if each person received 1 million that would make 330 millionaires & still leave plenty left over. Don’t confuse millions with trillions when billions are in between.

@nate8932 3 года назад

For every American to be a millionaire the war would've had to cost 330 trillion. An estimate for the war was 2 trillion and that would give each American around 6k. Problem is the estimation includes everything (as well as soldier pay) and those things would still be payed whether the afghan war happened or not.

@jeaninesilva5055 3 года назад

Exactly 2 trillion dollars...we have psych patients living on the streets with no treatment...our infrastructures are old and need rebuilding...so many others things that money could have been spent on

@johncee1481 3 года назад

Get that woman in the white house !

@SFKelvin 3 года назад

Can I just say, the Bay Bridge is so much cooler than the Golden Gate Bridge?

@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад

Why not invite Cheney for a roast in his honour.

@Rays_Bad_Decisions 3 года назад

Lol we all joke but they are all still running shit just with a different horse. You think the Iraq style media coverage against Trump was honest????

@arynrowland862 Год назад

If Senator Feinstein does decide to retire, Representative Lee would make a great Senator from California.

@zombiesheep.whatsinyourhea9166 3 года назад

Why the hell isnt bush cheney in prison now!!!!

@swankybutters8371 3 года назад

Because they did the right thing (Eye roll) they saved -merica (bigger eye roll) they made -merica great again (vomit)....

@michaelcorvin4330 3 года назад

Politicians always say money could be better spent on A, B & C, but rarely do I ever hear that the money could have been applied to the national debt. Foreign wars are not our only boondoggles.

@claramijenes4224 3 года назад

Thanks for statements

@DGDfan13 3 года назад

While I agree I do not see a current reality in which the U.S. learns from it's "mistakes". We really don't do that a whole lot. P.S. I say mistake because those in power knew and know what they are doing. They aren't entirely stupid.

@ADVENTURESOFBZ 3 года назад

Reimagine and restructure our national security??? Start with the freakin southern border!!!!

@AViolYn911 3 года назад

Nice interview

@dee-kryvenko 3 года назад

Ah, she didn't cought his last question... Did she? Lol

@donackerman4529 3 года назад

I thought you might hit the covid crisis in this clip. I’ll have to see if you got there later in the show.

@chancerobinson5112 3 года назад

Think for yourself or someone will do it for you.

@007vsMagua 3 года назад

The military solution is to apologize to Russia, then ask them to go back in with our support. What fools we have been.

@sardonicspartan9343 3 года назад

Going was the issue. Staying was. Something Obama did for 8 years.

@jimmybo0m 3 года назад

Barbra Lee for President

@loopslytle 3 года назад

Walter Cronkite had retired before 9/11 from news reporting. He was very often referred to as 'the most trusted man in America.' After 9/11 he had many interviews in which he noted his opinion that going to war, under the circumstances at that time, were ill-advised. Then many commentators and politicians referred to his view as un-American. Bill Maher himself, as the host of Politically Incorrect, was inundated with calls for his firing for similar statements. At one point his show had lost all of its sponsors. The overwhelming response to anyone who disagreed with this decision by congress and the President was pure anger and hatred.

@DougGrinbergs 3 года назад

We could have had U.S.A.: Uncle Sam's AmeriCare: expanded, improved single-payer Medicare-for-all - vision, hearing, dental, mental - not incidental! #M4A #UniversalHealthCoverage #EverybodyInNobodyOut

@basicstickfigure1087 3 года назад

It's hard to mix social programs into Capitalism. There will be corporations taking full advantage. From any angle they can think of.

@doghouse010 3 года назад

She's the representative of my district and this is the first I've ever seen her speak out about anything ever

@amyfisher6380 3 года назад

No, you just haven’t been paying attention. She’s been speaking out on multiple issues for decades.

@ashcatthedude 3 года назад

"Dont make choices in the moment of grief and crisis." That is one of the statements that keeps gun legislation on the sidelines. She is right though. In regard to the invasion of Afghanistan; some thoughts before actions would have been nice. Clearer to look back on though I guess. After serving the US Army in Iraq and Afghanistan I can say I'm really feeling weird about moving forward. Politicians from either side of the aisle can get fucked. But the ones on the right can get extra fucked.

@checkfactschecking 3 года назад

Sadly Barbara Lee is 1 in 300 million.

@jamesjackovich5886 3 года назад

Kenneth Williams an FBI agent in Phoenix Arizona reported to his headquarters in Washington 2 months before 911 that Arabic men were training in a flight school and that all flight schools in the country should be checked immediately and nothing was done about it, one of many catastrophic failures by Bushit/Cheney

@Riverplacedad1 3 года назад

The NWA flight instructors reported the same thing to the MSP FBI pre 911. No follow up until post 911.

@carriemunnick9980 3 года назад

It would have been nice to have all of the information before making decisions.

@mijo1975 3 года назад

Barbara Lee! The voice of reason….haha!

@old_grey_cat 3 года назад

Yes, a Barbara Lee / 12 Angry Men Award. United Nations should run it, recognition of people like the Russian who stopped a nuclear war.

@LuciaMarconiSinger 3 года назад

All of that would be fantastic, if only wars weren’t such a big business for weapons sales. You want to stop going around making wars, wasting money and young lives? Take away the money from all the weapons sale and defense contractors and such. It’s just that easy.

@afterburnerfox 3 года назад

Ron paul was in that category too

@baldemarcastillo675 3 года назад

Did this foo just say "true that" lol

@mnsmdm3064 3 года назад

I think one of the lessons of 9/11 is not to lead overt and covert operations in other countries

@JK192837 3 года назад

While I agree that the last 20 years in Afghanistan were a damaging waste of lives, time, resources, that was almost certainly doomed to failure from the start, but I've yet to hear anyone articulate what should've been done instead in the wake of 9/11. It's not like they could've just done nothing. A softer response like sanctions wouldn't have had an effect, would've been seen as weakness, and may have encouraged more attacks. A first-rank power can't just accept having 3000 civilians killed and not respond.

@veronicaswystun2235 3 года назад

Well-planned covert actions as opposed to carpet bombing Kabul?

@JK192837 3 года назад

@@veronicaswystun2235 It took 10 years to track down Bin Laden even with the country fully occupied. This isn't a computer game or a movie. You can't just send in James Bond.

@veronicaswystun2235 3 года назад

@@JK192837 Fully occupying the country put them (Bin Laden and his gang) into deep retreat and cover, with assistance from all the citizens who lost relatives in the carpet-bombings (there would have been thousands of citizens who lost family in the American bombings of their city. Great terrorist recruitment tool, that carpet-bombing). It took 10 years BECAUSE you fully occupied the country in this spectacular manner. Hence, Bin Laden was found in PAKISTAN, not Afghanistan. And you did not invade Pakistan, did you?

@RaveYoda 3 года назад

We wont learn our lesson. Too much money and too many feeble Americans.

@mongoose6685 3 года назад

This was painful to watch. It's full of "outcome fallacy": because Afghanistan was a democratic failure then... (it could have never succeeded under any circumstances, no other country could succeed to become a democracy, we should have never gone). The outcome is not a universal truth you can extrapolate as a universal rule. Al quaeda needed to be destroyed and the Taliban punished. The problem was leaving Afghanistan since the US knew the Taliban was waiting to come back. That's the only part that was an f up in this 20 year story.

@abrahamlincoln5185 2 года назад

Hey Bernie was against the war in Congress too!

@jacklynch1128 3 года назад

Theyl be saying the same thing about the mandatory vaccine people in the future too.

@adama5628 3 года назад

Came here to say this. 100%. It's almost like Bill wants to say it but knows he can't. "Groupthink is dangerous".

@grokeffer6226 3 года назад

We should have done a better job of getting our friends out of the country, at the very least.

@victoriaman117 3 года назад

You don’t mean like the rush for online surveillance and mandated vaccines???

@minibobber 3 года назад

Ok. Let's say USA never invaded Afghanistan and never removed the taliban regime that supported Al Qaeda. Why would or what would make Al Qaeda stop with the attacks? They would think. "This is pretty nice. We use violence and they don't do anything about it" I think she is pretty awesome to have the balls to voice her opinion when everyone was blinded by rage but what was her alternative? Not doing anything or just "talk about it with the talibans". Before the 9/11 attacks what did USA do to Afghanistan except help them get rid of the Russians and still they gave sanctuary's to terrorist groups and openly hated the western ideals? If they just kept to themselves 9/11 would have not happened and war in Afghanistan & Iraq would have not happened.

@andrearodigari4840 3 года назад

I always believed the Saudis did that....... I never understood why they went to Afghanistan in a first place. Of course... I'm just a chef......

@r.d.w.molenkamp1276 3 года назад

Bar-bar-bar, bar-barbary lee... Great, now I have that song stuck in me head again xD

@luuketaylor 3 года назад

You're goddamn right.

@elmerfudd5193 2 года назад

Howwabout. 14 TRILLION SPENT / SENT TO PENTAGON for Iraq and Afghanistan (30-50% was for “ contractors “! )

@Nathan-gd7xq 3 года назад

Looking back into the past with the benefit of hindsight and judging people for what they did years ago, as if you would have been the lone voice of reason and acted differently. Isn't this exactly what he accuses Millennials of doing just about every week?

@Cbenz280 3 года назад

As a veteran of the mid east, going into Afghanistan was the right thing to do.

@vincentm7357 2 года назад

This makes sense but I also think about Truman declaring war on Japan the day after Pearl Harbor. Only one person voted against that and it seemed to be a wise decision.

@Riverplacedad1 3 года назад

This wasn’t about the decision to withdrawn our troops and fellow Americans. It was about the absolutely insane way we did it which endangered lives. It will be interesting what Austin, Kirby, Blinken and Milley have to say under oath to Congress in the near future. I have my doubts any of them will take one for the team. But I’m certain they will be invited to many DC cocktail parties

@TentaclePentacle 3 года назад

9/11 shall be known forever is the date of surrender.

@MagnusAnand 3 года назад

You can’t fight an ideology and expect to win with guns. That’s to remember

@ufafgd 3 года назад

Groupthink, (aka groupspeak, sheep herding, indictrothink/speak, call it what you will) works both ways. Most of the comments left here are group think/speech. Yes I read all of them. If your not guilty, you can throw the first stone. (By the way, I'm independent, so I take no sides.)

@dougd1573 3 года назад

Ron Paul was against nation building.

@seanfeeley5985 3 года назад

Just think if we listened to her...

@thisoldman99 3 года назад

What about Ron Paul ?

@paulmakinson1965 3 года назад

Pulling out of Afghanistan was correct, the execution was disastrous. Allies were not warned and left scrambling. Advice from allies was not heeded, sending the message that the US likes allies to follow (if they don't, French fries become freedom fries), but really doesn't give a crap about their point of view or their wellbeing. The pullout was done in the middle of the fighting season instead of winter when the fighting stops. People who helped the US and other members of the coalition were abandoned to be slaughtered by the Taliban. Tons of military equipment were abandoned to the Taliban. I will not remember Joe Biden fondly even though I supported him before this mess.