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Repair- HD 28 finishing the scallop 

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Another part of the repair process on a 70's HD-28 that I evaluated earlier ( • Evaluating a 70's Mart... ). In this video, I'm finishing the scallop to make it more like a prewar/GE/Authentic. We also take a look at various scallops for comparison.
The video is "live" with minimal editing. It's long. I talk a lot. There's a lot of good information, but you'll have to pay attention.
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@mattandrews1981
@mattandrews1981 8 месяцев назад
This guy is the man. I could watch this channel all day long.
@mattandrews1981
@mattandrews1981 8 месяцев назад
Actualy I did watch this channel all day long. Not sure what I enjoyed more; listening to the continual knowlege bombs or the amount of times he said this is "horrible". LOL. JUST AWESOME.
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 8 месяцев назад
LOL!!!! I'll be sure to drop "horrible"' a few times in the next one just to see if you catch them. :) Thanks for watching.
@dannyjonze
@dannyjonze 3 месяца назад
This is a great video. I was lucky, the alghorythm just popped this video up. Did see it 4 years ago but people would pay for all this knowledge. Great useful info.
@keithgandy7321
@keithgandy7321 10 месяцев назад
Bryan thats impressive work! Thank you for sharing all these videos that are excellent and I know very time consuming. I enjoy them all and a few of my favorites are the How I tune a guitar ,the string comparison video, and the difference in pick videos. Your playing is excellent and I enjoy that as well. Thanks
@robertjohnson1681
@robertjohnson1681 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your expertise.... these videos you're putting out are fantastic!
@redlinemando
@redlinemando 5 лет назад
@Robert Johnson I agree 100%!!!! They really are fantastic!!!!!!!.
@bigcsfamily7277
@bigcsfamily7277 3 года назад
The camera mic doesn't like being in the guitar. That made me laugh. Im definitely gonna spend sometime on my guitar braces. Great video.
@gloryman3634
@gloryman3634 2 года назад
This is a great instructional video! Unfortunately, I live up in Alberta, Canada so I can't bring my acoustic to you. It sounds pretty good, but I know it can be much better. I don't know anyone around here who would have the experience that you have. Thanks again.
@redlinemando
@redlinemando 5 лет назад
lol I have finger planes, but not the right sizes for the job. All I have is a shureform, a 2 inch length of plastic pipe with 80 or 100 grit sandpaper glued to it & a finer grit sanding sponge for smoothing things out in the end. lol That's probably why it took me about three months to finish it. I had to think ahead & leave the braces a little high because in the end, they would wind up being pretty close by the time I had smoothed out all that work from the shureform. That shureform ended up being worth it's weight in gold & did the bulk of the main work for taking off material. I also cut a little length off my handle as well, but not quite as much as you did. lol I like to trim some of that hump near the ends of the X. Some scallops usually have a bad hump in this area & it's another good place to correct some of the cookie cut. My forearms are a little big for reaching back that far in the guitar so I need a little bit of handle for this. Guess I should do like you & invest in a few of them. lol I've done about 6 or 7 trims/shaves by myself now. I started with several hours of research & observation before I ever made my first cut. I bought me a couple cheap guitars as good practice runs. They weren't perfectly done, but I ended up learning a ton & both of them sold within two or three weeks of their weight loss program. lol Both buyers fully knew about any & all work I'd done. The last of my trims/shaves to date were 70's D-28's. Both of which I had an experienced luthier friend either watching over my shoulders or guiding me through the process by phone. On the first of these, I had to clean up a set of "McDonald's arches"...……..cough, cough...…….I mean the tone bars of a 72. My personal 73 D-28 would be the last one I've done & almost a yr ago to the day. I would get to start with a clean slate on this guitar as the braces were completely stock & entirely too tall. Everything went really easy with the usual exception of the tone bars being tricky to reach. I think they might have even run at a steeper angle than standard. You never know what you'll find in a 70's Martin, but I really took my time with it & had fun. I think that's why it seemed so much easier & also why I learned more. It was really fun to see what braces effected what tones & how the guitar as a whole would react over a couple of weeks of playing. By taking my time, I learned a lot more, made fewer mistakes & I really enjoyed the work I was doing. I was doing some research & in the mid 40's it seems, Martin experimented with a tapered or a pyramid style bracing on some of their guitars. Have you run across many of these?
@Gerthebard
@Gerthebard 4 года назад
What was that guitar at the start? Too much pearl to be a HD 28. It’s lovely. All your posts are so very informative and interesting, thanks for sharing your knowledge, Bryan. Thanks to you I was able to sand down my 2001 D28 saddle and get an action that suits me. I’ve learnt so much from your channel and continue to do so. Thanks.
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 4 года назад
A custom shop something. I don't remember!
@sc12100
@sc12100 4 года назад
It looks like that CS-D45 he had in a while back.
@guiart1553
@guiart1553 3 года назад
Norman Blake said he didn’t trust a guitar that didn’t have a belly.
@markchristopher4165
@markchristopher4165 3 года назад
This is fantastic
@brad42948
@brad42948 3 года назад
Very informative, thank you!
@oldmanofcotati
@oldmanofcotati 3 года назад
Good job. Thanks for sharing.
@sc12100
@sc12100 5 лет назад
I was always wondering how you scalloped the braces - as far as the method.
@lambsquarterhorses
@lambsquarterhorses 2 года назад
Hello Bryan I have just acquired a 1963 D21 that had a bridge doctor in it. I removed the Bridge Doctor and it has a smal hump behind the bridge. After buying this guitar and removing the BD I discovered the the braces had already been scalloped. After removing the BD the action and top seems stable. I check it daily. The hump is minimal behind the bridge and only about an 1/8" on either side of the straight edge. The scallop does not run all the way to the X. After watching your video I though this would be perfect for my guitar. Didn't know if your guitar had a hump before finishing the scallop or not. We are also replacing the bridge because somewhat already replaced it with a non period correct bridge and saddle..I wish I had a way to discuss this with you and be able to share pictures. My Luthier friend Nathan Wright in Nashville Tennessee has agreed to the restoration efforts but was unsure of finishing the scalloping. I've sent him these videos for him to ponder on. Do you think we risk messing this guitar up based off of what I've told you?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 2 года назад
The belly doesn't sound that bad. A belly is only a problem if it's actually a problem. Charles Sawtelles D28 has a huge belly behind the bridge and Norman Blake has allegedly said "I don't trust any guitar without a belly." Stick your phone inside, set it to self timer, and get some pictures. Email me. My name at Gmail
@lambsquarterhorses
@lambsquarterhorses 2 года назад
Email sent with pictures
@guiart1553
@guiart1553 3 года назад
I am the guy who asked about sandpaper…this video is really helpful! I think ‘punky’ is a good description. I know exactly what you mean. Would it solidify or reinforce it to let some superglue soak into the area?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 3 года назад
Dunno. I think it's an endgrain issue and I'm not going to suggest superglue to a customer who's already suspicious of me. :). You try it and report back.
@riverbottomband
@riverbottomband 3 года назад
This would be a great video if you did one without the back so we could see. I have a 93 D28 I'm thinking about doing this too. Thanks for the video.
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 3 года назад
Well, but then I'd have to take the back off and that's not all that easy and it's very time consuming.
@whatsupchicken
@whatsupchicken Год назад
Hi, may I ask what's the trick to keep the strings on the pegs? Thank you!
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey Год назад
Coil and wrap around the headstock
@whatsupchicken
@whatsupchicken Год назад
@@Bryankimsey Thank you!
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey Год назад
Here ya go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gvWG9OJSgYE.html
@Flatpicknation
@Flatpicknation 3 года назад
Any other way to do it without the fingerplanes?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 3 года назад
Look at my "shaving back braces" video. I use a cheap scraper from the hardware store. But, really... the fingerplane is $75 and the right tools are so important if you want to a good job. www.lmii.com/planes/2655-ibex-30mm-finger-plane.html
@Flatpicknation
@Flatpicknation 3 года назад
@@Bryankimsey just did it,the guitar is on another level! Feel free to check my latest video and tell me what you think.
@RantzBizGroup
@RantzBizGroup 5 лет назад
I assume that this voids the warranty if the guitar is owned by the original purchaser?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 5 лет назад
Blows it out the door and down the street. Every customer gets and signs a copy of my disclaimer which includes the following: Modifications: In the case of structural modifications such as brace removal, brace scalloping, bridge plate replacement or any case in which wood is removed, I am not responsible for any cracks, bellying, or other structural problems which may arise in the future. I will do my best to help solve such problems, but I am not necessarily responsible. Modifications are done at your risk, will devalue the collector’s value of your instrument, and will void your warranty ----------------- Realistically... this is a mid-70's HD-28 with the bridge in the wrong location. The instant I fixed that issue, I destroyed any "collector's" value there was. So, once that was violated, we might as well fix the rest of it. The scalloping itself is- as I tried to show- nothing more than what Martin themselves does on other models and can actually HELP a top belly situation by distributing stresses more evenly over the top.
@redlinemando
@redlinemando 5 лет назад
@@Bryankimsey I mean...…...it's a mid 70's Martin. Martin was more concerned with quantity & not quality back then it seems. Are they really going to have much collectable value with all the mistakes Martin made during that time? You would think an instrument would be worth more by being "correct."
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 5 лет назад
All true. "My" guitars seem to sell pretty well. I've had a VERY FEW 70's come in that were in great condition with the bridge in _nearly_ the correct position and my advice was "If there was ever a 70's that you needed to be in a vault, this is one. Leave it alone or sell it and come back with a beat wrong-location-bridge one for me to modify". Nearly every 70's, though, has a pickguard crack (sometimes under the guard) and once you remove/fix the guard...boom... non-original. I just don't worry about the value too much. As I pointed out in the LSH Marquis video... a) I've lost far more in racing dirt bikes than the total value of many of these guitars, b) by reducing the pool of unmolested guitars, I'm _helping_ the vintage market!!! LOL. Now... if I get a really vintage guitar in... different story. See my video on the '37 vs '41 000-18's for instance.
@redlinemando
@redlinemando 5 лет назад
@@Bryankimsey lol Yeah, I guess you are helping the vintage market quite a bit, but you're also educating consumers on what's right & what's wrong. That raises the bar on what is expected from a 150+ yr old guitar company that should know better than make some of those mistakes in the first place. It's funny. You would think that Martin would take more pride in their work & at least offer original owners a free one time repair up to a certain amount or something. They should at least try to make up for their substandard work during that time. I mean......Martin will never do any work for me because I don't believe them competent enough to get my own guitar back to me in one piece. I know several ppl who feel the same way & they always hire a competent luthier, such as yourself, for all their work. I would give more money for a 70's Martin that you've worked on knowing that it was fixed right.
@zakaroonetwork777
@zakaroonetwork777 4 года назад
What about cutting out lightening holes instead of scalloping. I want to mod my D28, but Not to much like a HD28.
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 4 года назад
I've never seen it done, don't know how you'd do it thru the soundhole, and don't know what the results will be like. Good luck.
@billdedrick1914
@billdedrick1914 Год назад
What changes in tone, balance, bass, volume can be expected from this?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey Год назад
More bass. Mostly to prevent a stress riser in the bracing. I talk about it quite a bit in the recent HD vs '73 D video.
@guiart4728
@guiart4728 2 года назад
So… you only modify the X braces and not the finger braces and tone bars? Thanks!
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 2 года назад
The tone bars are fine on the HD and it's not really worth doing anything to the fingers. I round all edges off though
@guiart4728
@guiart4728 2 года назад
Thanks for your time! Thinking about my ‘85 D-41…it has the same shaped X bracing as shown in your video in that the scalloping is way short of the X.
@iused2BAfireman
@iused2BAfireman 5 лет назад
LOL...this video reminds me I’m overdue seeing my proctologist!
@rodparker4514
@rodparker4514 2 года назад
What are trying to do exactly ?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 2 года назад
The scallop on the HD stops about an inch and a half short of the X brace intersection. Prewar, Authentic, and GE go all the way to the X. I'm getting rid of that unscalloped section and blending into the X
@rodparker4514
@rodparker4514 2 года назад
@@Bryankimsey Thanks for the reply .Why are you doing this ?
@Bryankimsey
@Bryankimsey 2 года назад
I thought I explained pretty well in the video why I'm doing this, starting at 1:00 in. 1) because the partial scallop creates a stress riser right into a weak spot in the top. Finishing the scallop removes that stress riser; 2) to make it more like a pre-war or Authentic or GE which is to say... to add a little more bass, 3) the customer wanted it for reasons (1) and (2). I did a lot of other modifications to this guitar... this was just part of those.
@rodparker4514
@rodparker4514 2 года назад
@@Bryankimsey Fair enough , thank you .
@petezah4597
@petezah4597 3 года назад
18:10 asmr
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