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Repairing The PCB & Monitor In An Upside-Down Nintendo Donkey Kong Arcade Machine Someone Brought Us 

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@TheRetroGamingPrincess
@TheRetroGamingPrincess Год назад
It must be the Australian version
@SimonQuigley
@SimonQuigley Год назад
Looks like it to me
@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail
beat me to it.
@haactgaming9687
@haactgaming9687 Год назад
I’m a little disappointed about the dirty board! Love the vids!
@jamesbonner692
@jamesbonner692 2 месяца назад
Didnt know you did Australian to US conversions.
@rcfreeman
@rcfreeman Год назад
I love it! " Leave all the dirt." I would have messed that up. Excellent work guys
@TrickyZ33
@TrickyZ33 Год назад
I would have had a hard time with that as well.
@rknudson1407
@rknudson1407 Год назад
when the customer states.. NO COSMETICS!! that means leave ALL the dirt in.. lol awesome repair job.. was this video with Joe narrating and doing the work instead of his brother??
@Its-Broke
@Its-Broke Год назад
Yes, thanks for watching
@mraycgz
@mraycgz Год назад
At least some compressed air.
@WillParker322
@WillParker322 Год назад
​@@mraycgz don't want to change the look. Guy said no cosmetics.
@VyperMem
@VyperMem Год назад
I found a 1981 Donkey Kong cab at Goodwill for $125, same thing .. .played, but folded. Cap kit and rebuilt joystick made it good as new. But ... I cleaned all the dirt. LOVE your channel. I just repaired my '71 Gottlieb Playball pin from watching your vids.
@sprinter768
@sprinter768 Год назад
Only a handful of upside down Donkey Kongs were built and they're extremely valuable! X-D
@watchingdanny
@watchingdanny Год назад
I love how these classic consoles were pretty repairable and straightforward. It seems almost everything has a pre-planned expiration date nowadays. Thank you for the video and for keeping these gems alive.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
There is definitely a change in design quality sometime around 2000 IMO. Back when this was built, they weren't necessarily trying to make it last 40 years they just made it out of quality parts and it ended up lasting 40 years. After 2k the companies started designing things that they knew would die in a little bit of time, seemingly on purpose like you mentioned.
@cleekersneaker
@cleekersneaker Год назад
Erasing the original chip and then reburning it reminds me of an antique car joke my Dad told me about "original air" inside of a tire.
@Otakunopodcast
@Otakunopodcast Год назад
Ah, one of the very rare Australian Donkey Kong cabs I see... ;-)
@boblow2186
@boblow2186 Год назад
That’s going to be a hard play.that way up. But joe was making a great job of it. Big 👍.
@smeatonmedia
@smeatonmedia Год назад
I have a DK cabinet with the D2K add-on and DKJR on a switcher. It's my prized possession and all the references in the Mario movie just make me love it even more.
@theoldbigmoose
@theoldbigmoose Год назад
Joe, from your voice, I always thought you were older. Watching you get up and down off that floor, you are a young man! Congrats on your flexibility!
@irieman442
@irieman442 Год назад
Hearing Donkey kong fire up is going to make me listen to my Bunkner and Garcia album... The family will be so happy with me.
@jumpingeneral
@jumpingeneral Год назад
I needed a good laugh! This made my day guys. Thanks for repairing my jr monitor. It works great joe !
@curtismanley3459
@curtismanley3459 Год назад
Great repair as always there! Guess Donkey Kong was either jumping up and down too much or throwing the barrels too hard to flip the cabinet upside down. 😆
@ThomasGrillo
@ThomasGrillo Месяц назад
Those metal covers you're not returning to monitors needs to be put back. It's not a radiation shield, like what's on the yoke, but it is a Faraday cage, which protects the electronics from the verry EM fields being produced by the yoke, and external sources, as well. Thanks for the video. Was a fun one.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Месяц назад
ok
@michaelsentelle1016
@michaelsentelle1016 Год назад
Very nice video. I agree something was mashing the power cord between that board on the cabinet and something. I worked alot with EProms, and there's no logical reason why writing the program to a chip twice would be any better or different. At the same time, there's a fair bit of superstition and those things are temperamental, so if you have a specific way of doing things when programming chips that always works for you, keep with it! I would've blown the dust out and probably broken something! But your 39 minute video should've been ONE minute longer. "Give us a thumbs up for taking the trouble to film it. (Thank you) And don't foget my brother Donnie...."
@meltysquirrel2919
@meltysquirrel2919 Год назад
I don't know what happened - I finished the board by detatching all the girders only this time not just Donkey Kong ended up on his head the whole machine did! 😂
@ericernst7414
@ericernst7414 Год назад
Love the trying to erase and re-burn the chip. Originality maintained!
@rknudson1407
@rknudson1407 Год назад
I do enjoy watching the Magic happen, working with his hands to bring back classic games from the grave, nothing can replace the actual sticking a coin in to play a game.. Its something that reproductions and emulators can't simulate nostalgia..
@daniel_wilkinson
@daniel_wilkinson Год назад
Jeez, Joe. I've never seen the second screen. I could never even get past the first ladder. But in my own defense I rarely had more than a dollar to play arcade games with. Parents thought it was a waste of time and money and didn't have the patience to wait.
@kevtris
@kevtris Год назад
the contents of that EPROM appear to have slowly erased over time; all the bad bytes had bits that were supposed to be 0's but had become 1's over time. (i.e. 00 was 80, etc). it might not be a bad idea to reburn all of them since the last time they were programmed was 30+ years ago most likely. you can generally just reburn the same data on top of the existing data if it's bit rot (all errors are 0's that turned to 1's) or if the data matches and there were no errors.
@williamcooper2368
@williamcooper2368 3 месяца назад
JOE is so specific. When he tells us what's wrong. With the machine.❤
@chadhartsees
@chadhartsees Год назад
LOL "Leave all the dirt exactly where it is"
@justlookin20101
@justlookin20101 Год назад
Ok Ok thats an Aussie DK they arrive here like that all the time,you should see the mess the pinballs do ! .....LOL
@jasonsteverson4609
@jasonsteverson4609 Год назад
I enjoy washing the entire monitor in the driveway to see the neighbor's reaction.
@corvettebob96
@corvettebob96 11 месяцев назад
I understand why it is upside down. The monitor is the heaviest part and the cabinet is top heavy. I bought a cabinet yesterday and that sucker was heavy. It was in the guys basement with narrow steps and a hairpin turn at the top to get out the door. I tried pulling with an appliance dolly with "stair climbers" and couldn't get it up first step. That moment was the point I was contemplating life choices. He called his neighbor to help. He wasn't cancelling the sale!! The neighbor pulling and two of us lifting and pushing got it out. Gouged the trim panel on the door due to poor steering.... From ground level, the seller made me roll it out of the house. My arms are still aching from holding the monitor weight steady. Picking up from bottom back seemed logical. After I got home, picking up from front top seems to distribute weight better. It sits in my garage currently and plays well. Generic 60-1 card and controllers. Cabinet, monitor and Chou power supply with stopped fan appear original. If I move it to my basement, I think I am taking the monitor out.
@imranahmad2733
@imranahmad2733 Год назад
Would have been interesting to see how a corrupted ROM dump would react in a emulator, ah the Billy Mitchell ROM mod.lool
@liamthoralexanderspencer4684
@liamthoralexanderspencer4684 4 месяца назад
Assuming you gat a corrupted rom to work it can be VERY unstable, while I’ve not emulated donkey Kong I’ve got a corrupted rom of a gba mega man battle network game running and it was very chaotic
@imranahmad2733
@imranahmad2733 4 месяца назад
I'm guessing it depends where the corruption has landed, if it's on assets like audio and tiles/textures it might make for a static mess, if it on executable code it could either stop or halt execution or change things, if corruption landed on parameter asset it could change layouts and lives, all those things would be repeatable on a corrupted ROM dump but on the physical corrupted ROM the corruption could change randomly or even environmentally causing the glitches to morph, it's almost like analogue circuit bending with the real thing.
@liamthoralexanderspencer4684
@liamthoralexanderspencer4684 4 месяца назад
@@imranahmad2733 that’s exactly how the cartridge is! Not consistent in the slightest, my corrupted rom dump has messed up graphics but the code still runs as intended
@JohnnyG10178
@JohnnyG10178 9 месяцев назад
haha the whole time, Im like why is Choplifter in a Stargate Cab and then Ron says the same thing. lol
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly Год назад
I'd sometimes leave the screwdriver under the 2nd anode until I was ready to put things back together.
@michaelpyott9673
@michaelpyott9673 Год назад
I like watching your videos i like working on old radios and electronics like that I've learned alot about reading and understanding schematics a bit better from your channel
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
Thank you for watching Michael! See you on the next one!
@Fuzy2K
@Fuzy2K 10 месяцев назад
Oh... It's actually upside down. I thought that was just a joke for the thumbnail, and it was just the image on the *monitor* that was upside down... Wow. 😆
@andymouse
@andymouse Год назад
LOL ! the " They Got Me" sounds the same !.....cheers.
@ray73864
@ray73864 Год назад
I'm going to make the joke before someone else does it. "That's an aussie arcade machine!"
@TronBons
@TronBons Год назад
lol, finally hearing someone else say "leave the dirt" on old circuitry is awesome. I've tested that theory out sooooo many times. Clean the board vs leave the dirt. Leave the dirt wins 90% of the time.
@Bob-sd7qr
@Bob-sd7qr Год назад
Thanks for the video Joe & Ronnie!
@ocsrc
@ocsrc Год назад
There were 10 or 12 ROMs, I think 8k each. They had the different levels's programs in them. I remember comparing the eeprom to the factory many many years ago using a 9 pin serial eeprom reader Back when I was trying to figure out how the game worked and how it was hacked
@Zodliness
@Zodliness Год назад
@Joe's Classic Video Games - I held the 'Donkey Kong' high score (MAC) in my local drinking hole for two years solid, until someone trashed the machine in a burglary. The brewery replaced the best game ever made with Pacman.
@Joe_HamRadioGuy
@Joe_HamRadioGuy Год назад
Ones of my favorites all time classics. Great game.
@187DAFFY
@187DAFFY Год назад
Well.... I've only ever seen the first level 😂🤣
@Nananea
@Nananea Год назад
Super quick diagnosis and repair! Easy money!
@johnliller
@johnliller Год назад
I didn't notice at first that the DK was upside down because I was too busy looking at the Choplifter in the Stargate cab. . . then he said something about it and I snapped out of it. lol
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
I know what you're thinking before you're thinking it I SEE ALL JOHN LILLER
@Violent_Ed_1317
@Violent_Ed_1317 Год назад
started watchin AVGN 3 hours ago fell asleep and now im here. OK.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
Welcome Ed, you've got to stop the violence man come on Ed we don't need no violence come on now Ed
@robot_spider
@robot_spider Год назад
It's crazy to me that all these old games use through-hole components. You could probably print that whole board onto 1/4 of a postage stamp these days. Very cool to be able to test individual components.
@georgeshelton6281
@georgeshelton6281 Год назад
It's too bad that there was no Easter edition of Donkey Kong. There's not even a lazy summer vacation edition of Donkey Kong. Since I've seen Pauline in her swimwear before.
@sethreichenbach1444
@sethreichenbach1444 Год назад
I use to play Donkey Kong all the time on the Coleco Vision. The arcade version looks a lot harder.
@SneakiestChameleon
@SneakiestChameleon Год назад
I don't think I've ever seen an actual sized arcade machine upside down, let alone Donkey Kong. This is truly wacky!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
The top's pretty flat so I guess they couldn't tell what side was up!
@williamcooper2368
@williamcooper2368 Год назад
That monitor looks AMAZING.
@TrickyZ33
@TrickyZ33 Год назад
I don't own a Donkey Kong, but would LOVE to add it to my arcade some day. This game has GREAT sounds... have you ever heard of somebody upgrading the speakers in the cab? Perhaps with an amplified high performance subwoofer, mid, and tweeter setup?
@AvengerII
@AvengerII Год назад
The sounds are actually one of the game elements that get messed up in the console and PC ports of Donkey Kong. The only way you truly experience DK is with an original machine or decent emulation through MAME. I owned one of the better ports (Atari computers) in the early 1980s. It was one of the few ports that had all the levels decently replicated. Even the original NES port of Donkey Kong eliminated the conveyor belt (cement) level! DK is supposed to be mono. Later games were stereo. DK had a unique, deep, bassey tone, especially in the intro music and between level music, that was not replicated well.
@ray73864
@ray73864 Год назад
"You want to leave all the dirt where it is, it helps it work". I can attest to that! Had an old b&w tv back in the '80s and '90s, one day, I decided to open it up and clean all the dust out (And boy was there a LOT of dust in it), put it back together, and, nothing. My take on it is that the TV had made new electrical connections with the dust to help it work better, and I basically gave it brain surgery!
@herbertschuster9088
@herbertschuster9088 Год назад
#7:30 Have you ever considered using the Retro Chip Tester Pro for these tests? It shows directly which ROM it is (and therefore whether it is ok, it uses the MAME database). And it can test countless memory and logic ICs.
@segamatthews5023
@segamatthews5023 Год назад
My guess why it would be upside down isn't the top of that heavier than the bottom. Probably easier putting it on a dolly that way
@adamdavies163
@adamdavies163 Год назад
The magic dirt helps it work along with the magic smoke.
@XTurboDogX
@XTurboDogX Год назад
Gotta watch more Billy Mitchell videos. That was a good one Joe. You guys are awesome!
@sguttag
@sguttag Год назад
See...that's what happens when you leave DK upside down...the bits leak out of the "a" chip and Joe has to re-burn it.
@jumpingeneral
@jumpingeneral Год назад
U did it Better than the factory joe 🔧👍
@vizionthing
@vizionthing Год назад
"did he say what's wrong with it?" "something about the picture being inverted"
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Год назад
It's broke
@luckyddubber2
@luckyddubber2 Год назад
very good !
@ltsiver
@ltsiver Год назад
LoL it's not even 4 minutes in the video and two problems are identified. 😂
@williamalbertson78
@williamalbertson78 Год назад
nice work
@wizpin
@wizpin Год назад
Makes me miss my old dk cab even more 😂 to bad you cant find them here anymore, id love to have one again
@wizpin
@wizpin Год назад
@@googpix540 crap, i should have said I'm from Spain. In Europe you barely see them, as in , never . Sold mine years ago, and that came from The US
@wizpin
@wizpin Год назад
@@googpix540 lol 😂
@fragalot
@fragalot Год назад
Danky Kang? LUL
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
What is Dankey Kang
@fragalot
@fragalot Год назад
@@LyonsArcade Must be Donkey Kong when it's not working right.
@carlclayton2190
@carlclayton2190 Год назад
Brilliant stuff 👍 Just wondering- why mustn’t you clean the dirt off and how does it help it?
@pileofstuff
@pileofstuff Год назад
I wonder if the sun got at that EPROM a bit too much and flipped a few bits? The back of the cabinet probably protected it for many years until it went missing. Still, surprised the erase windows weren't covered.
@NivagSwerdna
@NivagSwerdna Год назад
Obviously the lack of labels wot broke it. Good job unbroking it.
@natem50
@natem50 9 месяцев назад
Great video. I am having the same problem with my Donkey Kong screen. Do you have a recommendation or sell the cap kit?
@jasonsteverson4609
@jasonsteverson4609 Год назад
Hey Ron and Joe!!
@JokerCJK
@JokerCJK Год назад
Donkey Kong: Stranger Things Edition 😂
@robertlipsett2535
@robertlipsett2535 Год назад
the story about burning an eprom multiple times was right for me. I burned a free play rom for a harlem globetrotter and it verified perfectly for me and ran on my test setup. In the game it would not boot. the game had .2 volts higher voltage then my bench test. test clips from regulator to game board would boot but harness would fail it. solution finally was to just reinforce the burning with at least burning in the data a second time and all was well
@davidbowers521
@davidbowers521 Год назад
Didn’t the customer tell you they are into one of those new age therapies where they play while suspended upside down from a bar. Sure, anybody can play normally - but can you play while hanging upside down and the stress of all the blood rushing to your head? Tricky part is getting those special quarters that fall up when you put them in the coin slot.
@AvengerII
@AvengerII Год назад
The owner must be a Californian ! California is the New Age Crazy Cult State.
@voltare2amstereo
@voltare2amstereo Год назад
"just rolled in"
@dextardextar
@dextardextar Год назад
billy mitchel spotted ripping a flash drive out of the mainboard and scurrying back into obscurity.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby Год назад
Joe: I'm not very good at Donkey Kong Also Joe: (plays an OK game by average arcade visitor standards) Joe: That was pathetic..........
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
He's got a split personality sometimes...
@gallimead
@gallimead Год назад
That's a Honkey Dong..
@pikadroo
@pikadroo Год назад
This is the only picture on the internet of the bottom of a nintendo cabinet. Which is exactly what i needed! And how the heck do you level these machines at all?! What a dumb design.
@chrisrhodes5464
@chrisrhodes5464 3 месяца назад
He plays it while doing a hand stand
@AKATEATime
@AKATEATime Год назад
It's a good thing you guys got it turned back over before all the electrons fell out.
@thejunkman7581
@thejunkman7581 Год назад
Maybe it's in cocktail mode. He thinks it's broken check the picture it may be upside down 😅😅😅
@EpicFurbynerd76YO
@EpicFurbynerd76YO Год назад
Australian Kong
@Pitbull0669
@Pitbull0669 Год назад
What version of the Pocket Programmer is that? I need one
@trabalheemsuacasa
@trabalheemsuacasa Год назад
Lindo gabinete
@WIDOW.OFFICIAL
@WIDOW.OFFICIAL Год назад
Is that the rare upside-down Donkey Kong cabinet from Europe? Giggle
@sideburn
@sideburn Год назад
Sounds like theirs a faint looping jumping sound in the background… Be cool to see a video of your test bench setup. Curious how you are able to interchange between say a donkey board and an asteroids board. Do you have a bunch of different harnesses and power supplies? And a raster & vector monitor?
@playy1797
@playy1797 Год назад
I'd like to know that too, especially since I'll be setting up a new test and repair bench in a couple of months, maybe I can be inspired by his test bench.
@jasonhowe1697
@jasonhowe1697 Год назад
I would asked where the dk jr pcb was as the cabinet is for the dkjr game
@sideburn
@sideburn Год назад
I have a modern TL866 II Plus (USB) EPROM programmer and it cannot program 2732, 2764 etc. EPROMS. They have to be 27C32, 27C64 etc. CMOS lower voltage type. I’ve been looking for a better (and probably older) programmer that can handle the non CMOS EPROMS but all of these older ones like the one in this video are crazy expensive $100+. 🤨
@scottfrazier9161
@scottfrazier9161 Год назад
Upside down and It's broke 😂
@Vurt72
@Vurt72 Год назад
how are the colors still so vibrant on that monitor? do they never age?? Getting my first CRT in some 20+ years btw, going to be used for old school games and emulators. can't believe i feel excited for it lol, 20+ years ago you just couldn't wait to get rid of them.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
Some CRT's stay nice for a long time, the one that Nintendo put in their Donkey Kong arcade games was made by Sanyo (I'm not sure who made the actual tube) and in general, those look very nice after you rebuild them. It's like 42 years old!
@Vurt72
@Vurt72 Год назад
@@LyonsArcade that's very impressive :)
@ocsrc
@ocsrc Год назад
Back in the day the eeprom was expensive as was the ROM. But it would have been a great idea if they would have had a backup set of code chips and a diagnostic program that would have been able to check the eeproms vs. the factory values and told you if it was bad and which ones were bad, and maybe even have a factory erase, re-burn eeprom from the factory backup ROMs. It would have made repair easier for messed up eeproms. Nowadays factory reset to default values is in most electronics that have user settable values.
@Vamptonius
@Vamptonius 2 месяца назад
Is it called a flyback because that's what happens to you if you mess with it before grounding it?
@watching_events447
@watching_events447 Год назад
Great score compared to what I can do, and you didn't even cheat to get there. Apart from the 6 lives thing.
@thephoenixhasflown
@thephoenixhasflown Год назад
When I was at starcade donkey Kong clearly had far too many lives as well so I think it's a simple internal modification.
@SodaGumX
@SodaGumX Год назад
how much is that Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon ps1? is it on the ebay store?
@viscountalpha
@viscountalpha Год назад
I have a DK cocktail I need to repair and then sell.
@justlookin20101
@justlookin20101 Год назад
Also i think standing the cabinet upside down wont put the magic smoke back in.
@eldonerc2524
@eldonerc2524 Год назад
Guessing it fell off the turnip truck. 😳
@rmarkc
@rmarkc Год назад
If somebody were to make a mistake and clean off the vintage dirt, do y'all sell replacements?
@67amiga
@67amiga Год назад
My OCD would not allow me to leave the dirt.
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Год назад
It says..🙃..umm ..🧐...🙃...🧐...ahh i know..kinky dong 🙊
@vogmar1
@vogmar1 11 месяцев назад
it came off the SS Poseidon.
@-2a-2a
@-2a-2a Год назад
Maybe he plays his game on an inversion table
@yuwish6320
@yuwish6320 Год назад
Sucks that you have to take the CRT out to get to the control board. Wonder why they didn't mount it on the inside of the cabinet...
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
At the time none of the manufacturers had remote mounted controls, they were all basically modifications from t.v.s that didn't have remote mounted controls
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Год назад
Mightve been the little dark haired boy who played the tennessee flat top box? 😁
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Год назад
And he would play 😉
@lileveretteyoakumiii
@lileveretteyoakumiii Год назад
Yodelayheehoo
@dope002
@dope002 Год назад
Would you care to explain why you left all the dust on it, I would clean it up since its completely out of the screen assembly.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
Because you weren't here to tell us how to do it better Bjorn!
@dope002
@dope002 Год назад
@@LyonsArcade You probably are getting me wrong, I didn't mean to tell you how to do it, I was genuinly wondering about the explanation behind the "leave the dust on, it makes it work better" comment. You clearly got experience on these machines so you probably have seen reason on why not to remove it and leave it on where it has settled itself.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Год назад
@@dope002 it was just a joke, you can clean the dust off if you want over the years tho often the really clean monitors are broke and the ones that are working the best are the ones covered in dirt :)
@ram12u2
@ram12u2 7 месяцев назад
What do you look for if when you plug it in all you get is a white screen?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 7 месяцев назад
Power Supply, Power Supply, Power Supply
@ram12u2
@ram12u2 7 месяцев назад
Ok can you tell me where on the power supply does the white wire go from the circuit board there are two the other one has a black wire with it on the same spade to the +5
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