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Repairman's Overview: Yamaha Soprano Showdown: Vintage 62R vs. new 82ZR 

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Saxophone repairman Matt Stohrer of www.StohrerMusic.com gives yet another epic long-form wordslam, this time on the topic of the vintage Yamaha (purple logo) 62R soprano saxophone as it compares to its newly introduced descendant, the Yamaha 82ZR Custom Z soprano saxophone.
Note: I am (despite appearances) only human and (despite rumors to the contrary) fallible. My sample size for the 82ZR is exactly one, and no two saxophones are exactly alike. So! Add this information to your mental quiver and get out there and make your own decisions.
Also, see my original Yamaha YSS-62 (purple logo) repairman's overview here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a63fhTnZsUM.html The purple logo 62 is the straight neck version of the purple logo 62R (shown in the video you are now watching) and the two are mechanically almost identical.
EDIT: I now have it on good authority the body tube of the 62R and the 82ZR are identical.
EDIT: Someone at Yamaha saw this video and said:
"Hi Matt,
I saw your soprano comparison on youtube. Nice job!
In the video, you mentioned that you were unclear as to why the low C# tonehole was moved on later 62's (and the 82Z). It was moved over to the low B/Bb side on the later 62's to make the low C# stay closed more positively when low B or Bb is being played.
On the older 62 (such as in your video), the low B to C# adjuster screw is very close to the hinge, so a tiny amount of movement at the screw contact translates into a substantial amount of movement at the outside edge of the low C# pad. I have never been 100% satisfied with the adjustment I am able to achieve on instruments with this design.
On the later 62 (and the 82Z), there is a long arm which places the adjuster screw far from the hinge (near the center of the pad) which is easy to adjust and keeps the C# closed very securely.
I hope that makes sense"

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@cedricmayfield3836
@cedricmayfield3836 10 лет назад
Great video. I've played on a YSS475 for years, just because it's consistent and easy to play. I played a 62R and fell in love, but haven't been able to find one (b/c no one is selling them!) I just got an 82ZR, and I'm equally pleased with it as I was the 62. Please continue with these informative videos so that people can watch and make informed decisions (if they aren't in a position to go play and/or compare for themselves).
@SOULJAMGO
@SOULJAMGO 12 лет назад
Always feel good when I watch your videos.
@dannyjang9952
@dannyjang9952 4 года назад
Watched this video in 2020. YSS 62 has been always my dream horn but it’s not easy find one that’s in good shape. So I took your advice and got the 82z!
@StohrerMusic
@StohrerMusic 12 лет назад
my favorite comment on any of my videos so far, whether you are serious or not, it made my day.
@joeschmo1332
@joeschmo1332 9 лет назад
Good video as always Matt very informative !
@spike1652
@spike1652 6 лет назад
Hi Matt, thanks for the informative video as always. Would you know anything about the differences between the YSS ZRS and YSS EX? Mainly in terms of bore size, wieght, response, intonation, overtones etc. Some people have told me the z doesn't work for classical and others has told me the EX is too heavy or has too small bore. I can't seem to find specifics for either of these horns but figured your preference/knowledge would be good since you have likely seen both in your shop. I play mostly jazz but also play some classical. I know the EX is to the original 875 as the Z is to the 62 but Im not quite sure what that intails... Thanks!
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 4 года назад
It appears to me that the 82Z is longer. Perhaps it's an optical illusion.
@canhotosax
@canhotosax 9 лет назад
Hi. Thanks for the review. I have a YSS 62R which I like very much for its wonderful sound. But it tends to have a dull g and g# (upper octave), as well as a very high b (upper octave). Any suggestions?
@jacobtworks
@jacobtworks 12 лет назад
could you do a video where you talk about the technical aspects of ligatures?
@ArtBusker
@ArtBusker 9 лет назад
Muy buen video e información !!!!
@360camacho
@360camacho 12 лет назад
Thank you
@DanielGoff527
@DanielGoff527 5 лет назад
Hi Matt, I was wondering if you found the middle register on either of these horns to be particularly stuffy sounding/feeling? I currently have a 62R signed out from my army band and while most of the horn feels very free blowing, in the middle of the horn it gets progressively stuffy from A up to middle C#, which is extremely stuffy. The upper octave is fine. Is this a design characteristic or a possible adjustment issue, and if it’s the former did it persist in the 82ZR? My personal soprano is a Selmer series III that feels very free blowing by comparison in the middle register, but I’ve recently found some allure in the Yamaha sound and of course their excellent build quality and consistency. Thanks!
@Michael-Oh
@Michael-Oh 8 лет назад
I don't really have any problems with awkward palm keys, I just use some key putty that shapes to my hand and takes away the awkwardness! :)
@josemanuel2244
@josemanuel2244 5 лет назад
Can you make a review on different choices on soprano. Maybe Taiwanese soprano, not so expensive but worth to consider.
@LaloRojasSax
@LaloRojasSax 6 лет назад
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you! I have a YSS-875 (purple logo). Never tried one of these 82zr. It would be great if you could compare the 875 to the 82 and/or the 62, just to know what you think. Cheers!
@neilperko8882
@neilperko8882 6 лет назад
Lalo Rojas cool, but purple logo is the 62.. the custom 875 was the top of the line above the 62 but never held a purple logo
@realmugas
@realmugas 5 лет назад
Hi Matt, which one is better between the Yamaha YSS-82Z and the Selmer super action 80 series II? As a repairman, which one would you recommend?
@qTyler50
@qTyler50 11 лет назад
What do you think about the yamaha yas 23?
@SaxSith
@SaxSith 9 месяцев назад
82 z are 62’s updates, and price is updated too😅undeservedly I think
@StohrerMusic
@StohrerMusic 12 лет назад
Hmmm, there's not a whole lot there IMHO, not sure what I'd say. If it holds the reed securely and is well made, I think the rest is up to taste. Maybe some day if I happen to have a ton of different designs laying around I'll make one.
@StohrerMusic
@StohrerMusic 12 лет назад
Not nearly as much as practicing will. But if it makes you happy and you like it, go for it. I just don't feel like there is much objective information I can share on it, you know what I mean?
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton 10 лет назад
Hi Matt - Another excellent video... I'm receiving my mint YSS 62 in a couple of days. I have really large hands and long fingers. I need to build up the palm and side keys. I've done this on my Mark VI alto with cork and pad glue (but not on my Mark VI tenor, my main axe). What materials do you recommend making the risers out of, especially a glue that won't damage the perfect finish (if any such animal exists). Thanks, Jeff
@StohrerMusic
@StohrerMusic 10 лет назад
I've heard good things about Sugru from DIY-ers. For me, I build them out of cork or out of epoxy. For cork, I use the layering method with contact cement. For epoxy, I cover the key with saran wrap and build the riser and let it dry. Then I pull it off (thanks to the saran wrap it doesn't stick to the key) and adhere it back to the key with contact cement. Voila, removable epoxy risers with a perfect fit.
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton 10 лет назад
***** Thanks, Matt... I've used the same cork method. What epoxy do you use? What is Sugru? Which do you prefer - cork or epoxy? The cork takes forever to make (at least for me). Also difficult to alter to get just the right shape. Thanks, Jeff
@StohrerMusic
@StohrerMusic 10 лет назад
I like cork, personally, but I am not a guy who builds risers much. For epoxy I would use a two-part plumbers epoxy.
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton
@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton 10 лет назад
***** When using cork, does the contact cement come completely off the keys when removed? My Yamaha YSS 62 is mint, with all its lacquer, and I want to keep it that way if possible. What brand of contact cement do you use? What type and size of cork? I suppose I need to get some tools - hobby shop files and x-acto knives? I did this years ago, but need a refresher! Thanks....
@jacobtworks
@jacobtworks 12 лет назад
so would you say that different syles and materials in a ligature affect your overall sound articulation etc?
@saxofonistacr
@saxofonistacr 5 лет назад
if you have a ligature that isn't working properly and you change for one that it is. It makes a difference. I remember how when I tried a BG super revelation it made a difference in articulation and it became a bit easier the lower register. If you have a mouthpiece with a table that is flat. and yoour reed is flat too. I don't find any difference with different ligatures.