Ho friends to day I am going to show How to replace battery with super capacitor.Here I used five 2.7v ,500F super capacitor in series connection. 3-4 times self makes discharge the capacitor completely. Thank you for watching.
Nice work! To people who are raising questions about viability of the idea - the idea is definitely workable, but it's a bare bones idea and it will need protection circuitry around it if it's to be used on a daily basis. For example, it will need a cut-off circuit to ensure the alternator doesn't overcharge the supercaps, raising the voltage to dangerous levels (dangerous to rest of the electronics in the bike). Then to those who think the caps will discharge eventually - yes, that's correct; the caps will discharge faster than a battery. Much faster in fact. So the bike will need to be in regular use. Even in case the supercaps discharge, I am sure they can be recharged to the level required to crank, just by using a powerbank (10000mAh or such). It may need some additional electronics to make this adaptation work, but am pretty sure it's doable. Supporting head-lamp and such when the bike is off - well, that's where this will have a problem. That's where practicality will suffer I guess.
yup... maybe adding a smaller battery. using the caps for starting boost only. vanguard is coming out with a "small motor" thats i think is using preloaded caps and no battery. so, "the future is here!"
It takes some days/weeks that the voltage goes below 1V....after that level it drops very slowly an need months to reach 0,9V. If you Instal 10-12 pieces -> you have a lifetime akku
It's good idea for lightening weight to delete battery. This idea is especially efficient for bike with kick starter. Because bike with kick starter don't need battery to startup. + It's better to use 6 capacitors than 5, with 6S1P protection circuitry. With 6 capacitors, capacitor pack almost never dead to overcharge. And it need protection circuitry because too much voltage can occurs damage on bike's electric things like bulb.
Leave it for 2 days than u have push start it. Super caps drains faster than batteries. Low resistance is dangerous it can immediately produce high Amps if any short circuit happens. Be careful and use a BMs
This video was like replacing your heart with a pet bottle, kindly change the car battery and do not use supercaps every time as it can over perform and kill ur machine, and supercaps are costly AF, and don’t provide good energy storage than batteries, mostly as good as a AA cell but will just provide more current, so kindly to use other vehicle appliance pls use a battery
Correct me if I'm wrong.... That capacitor stores 12.5 volts to start the engine, the starter instantly drains the capacitor and it depends on the charging circuit to recharge the empty capacitor. What if the engine is hard to start and you have to crank several times, I'm not sure the capacitor bank holds any reserve power for repetetive cranking as in a engine flooded situation, or at an idle with accessories on and low charging system output, seems like the power would not be there. How does it continue to supply 12 volts for repetitive cranking, or to power accessories by itself if the engine is not running or idling slow?
you are right ,but the capacitance value is truly high , 500F is f*ing huge , but there must be resistor in series with capacitor so that the discharging time can be control , and yes it cant actually replace your battery completely perhaps it can provide atleast one self start cycle after that capacitor voltage may get down!! so it cant provide supply to accessories
capacitor doesnt store Voltage. It stores Charge only. The voltage Writen on the capacitor is about the dielectric strength of the medium between the platesq the capacitor is limited up to that voltage
First, the total capacitance of the series string is 100 farad. Second, the voltage rating is too low to be safe. I would allow for some margin by using a total of 20 to 25 volts rating. Third, the battery acts as a zener diode keeping the charge circuit in the 13 to 14 range. The capacitor has no such self limiting, so terminal voltage can rise much more than that safe level. Fourth, there is nothing to keep equal voltages in each capacitor. Fifth, the wire size is too small. Observe tbe size of the bike wiring. It may have been a fun one time experiment, too many engineering rules have been broken to call it useable as built.
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Mr.Right sir...magar bty 1000 mein mijatha hai... super capacitor 1k/ pc.. karke bolraha hai...tho finanancially its fail hai na... yes or no.. plz reply sir...and another thing that diff b'tween dynamo & alternator so much.. you can't say both are same...if reqd may i can gives full details about the same....have possible plz txt the capcitor price.. thn Q sir...
Capacitor não explode na descarga e sim quando forem carregados com tensão acima da tensão normal que o dielétrico suporta. Cuidado na hora de recarregar os capacitores!!
1) Due to the different characteristics of each capacitor, the individual exceeding the limit voltage may cause the danger of capacitor explosion. Therefore, the use of supercapacitors must have balanced charging management. 2) The total capacity of 4 units of 500F series capacitors is 500F/4=125F. In a 12V system, the amount of electricity that can be stored is Q=C*V=1500 coulombs=1500 ampere second. That is only 1500/3600=0.41 ampere-hour. 3) Due to the low internal resistance of the capacitor, it can supply a large starting current. If the starting surge current of the motorcycle is 150A and needs 2 seconds, the electric power required for each start is 150A*2S=300 coulombs. The storage capacity of the capacitor is 1500 coulombs, therefore it can only be started for 1500/300=5 times. The headlight and signal light needs 5A, this capacitor can only last 300 seconds if forgot to switch off power. 4) Generally, the battery capacity of motorcycles needs 7~10Ah. To calculate the equivalent electric energy capacity, at least 20 times the capacitance combination, that is, 4 series and 20 parallel (total needs 80 units) combinations are required. 5) Otherwise battery and capacitor working together is the best way.
What if 4700 micro farad 6 capacitors 50v are used? And connected in parallel, capacitance will increase, Can you please tell if this will work on old bike where only horn and indicators are in use.?
This is a useful tip that will soon break the regulator and CDI (or ECU) ... If you do not like it, this is the production method you want to recommend.
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por que las empresas de moto en ves de poner una batería , no ponen estos capacitores. sera por el negocio de las baterias o por que la carga que hay en los capacitores no duraria tanto como en una bateria.
Brother it's a super farad capacitor not micro farad. 6 capacitors need 6-8 mins to charge it. Anyone have knowledge of basic electronics can know that this works and it stores charge as well for long time.
Always use in parallel with good battery , battery life will increase by a year for sure. capacitor will provide instantly pulse of voltage to horns , indicators and stabilize .But not an alternative to battery .Capacitor cannot drove a load motor which will rotate entire engine .
@@khelahoberifles832 dangerous they'll explode. The bike will be constant chargeing them to a extend that they go bang. He's probably only done it for views
My bike is a kickstart. The battery is long dead but connected. I have a 6800uF/50V capacitor connected in paralled to the battery. The capacitor supplies the current whenever I use the horn. Ive been using this arrangement for 6yrs now with no issues. The capacitor does not get damaged as its rated at a higher voltage to the alternator. When the bike is turned off the current in the capacitor is absorbed by the dead sla battery.
I am also planning to use 4700 uF / 50V capacitor parallal to battery. My battery is bad. LED work but self doesn't work. Horn also very low sound. So do you get mximum birghtness from LED, maximum sound from Horn after applying this method. I'm not interested in self start. It's meaningless to me.
It only contains 12.65625 Wh energy. It is a poor equivalent of a 12V 1Ah battery but the voltage drops more dramatically than you expect from the cheapest lead-acid cells. Practically you can't utilize more than half of the stored energy because the voltage drops below the operable level.
How much is the cost for 1 Capacitor , i see you use 5 PCS is the cost more cheap that a original battery, the capacitor temperature can go to how high, use this capacitor if the vehicle in 1 week or more didn't crank it would it still can be use, mean can it store energy, would it over charger compare to battery, Thanks for reply bro and thanks for the video
5time 500F - 2.7 Volt in series is 100F -13.5 Volt (just the leakagecurrents..) and : F is Ampere-sec/volt : 100 Asec*13.5Volt is 1350 Wattsec or 22,5 WattMinutes or 1 Watt-hour...
My understanding... Max charge storage possible with cap bank= c X v =500 x 5 x 12 =30000C . Max charge storage possible with 10Ah bike battery= I x t =10 x 3600 =36000C. Issue will be the voltage across the capacitor going down faster.Hence we need some switching regulator to boost voltage levels.
If this is for life time why companies do not give capacitors with them? Instead they provide battery. This is very dangerous and it's not for life time but it's life taking.
Quer enganar quem ?nunca você ligando capacitores em série vai ter 12v pra nada é muito menos 5 amper pra ligar uma Moto. Capacitor guarda corrente elétrica por um período curto de tempo
There are videos on here of people replacing batteries in their car with super cap banks with excellent results, get caps from AlliExpres, even already built banks with rectifiers.
That thing needs a voltage balancer (or BMS). There's no way that's feasible after a few weeks of use. The voltage can get out of whack and eventually reverse charging one of the capacitors assuming the capacity is not similar for all caps
Capecieter tha ya battery ke sell tha.capeciter blast hota he. Ye battery sell ya capeciiet kitane ata he.ye kisibhi vehical me chalega. Nice vedio please reply for fartdhar subscrib.
Your idea is good but you do it wrong! 5 supercaps is not enough, they get overcharged to 2.8 V or even more when the engine and generator is running - as lead acid batteries are charged to 14.4 V normally. This would bring each capacitor over 2.8 V and they wont charge evenly - so some die earlier others later. At least use 6 of the capacitors and you have to install a battery balancing system that takes care no one is overcharged! You can build an easy electronic balancer via TL431 variable voltage reference and a transitor + mosfet to regulate that and they will dissipate the load before overcharging! You have to understand each capacitor is little different than the others and differs in capacity and internal resistance! This is esp. true for cheap 500F capacitors sold on ebay via chinese sellers - they are rejected productions with errors and much capacity discrepancy. I have tested them for weaks and drawing discharge curves and self discharge. They really differ a lot so you have to use a balancer for durability! ;-)
Just like the miniature jump starters that fit in a purse. Connect to the car battery, Push a button on the jumper and a small 12 volt battery charges a capacitor which then sends a jolt to the car battery. If it doesn't start then repeat the process. But if the small 12 volt battery is low, it won't give enough charge to the capacitor to boost the car battery. Try capacitors without the ability to recharge and you're eventually dead.
Man the capacitor charge is only at moment for 1 time , if you no can start the motor a first time the capacitor lost charge, do you can replace battery for capacitor in a bike but if not start you can runner or push with thr bike but the car is difficult
Hi Don't try this is dangerous because he didn't use management system for their charging if the voltage keeps on charging the capacitor pack it wil burst the capacitor and dispose in fire
Please suggest, if this is a lifetime solution why the bike manufacturers move to this. And why we need to have Li-ions for battery. We can use this only at least for torch and emergency lights.
Drawbacks of this experiment. 1) discharge very quickly 2) not safe for long time 3) not safe in hot area 4) contious charge is required 5) required proper structure 6) some time capacitor discharge automaticall because this is not a full circuit 7) backup required for capacitor
what the hell are you talking about...are you idiot. its super capacitor not ordinary one. it takes long time to discharge. it comes 500F not uf or pf. you must know about super caps then comment. its almost discharging time more then half an hour if it uses other it still charged.
@@aapkachannell no fake its real video. i did same to my bike using ordinary two 6000uf 35v caps in parallel and it works perfectly without any problem. if its super caps then its life time long lasting battery same as he did in his video.
Great joke, why people upload sick videos just for the sake of views. What will happen if it won't start on first self , I don't think so it's gonna make it on second. Third where is the data sheet of this bomb 🤔, peak voltage and amps.
I want to make 48 v for ebike motor from this think how much super capasitor do i need, did i still need bms ? And how far can i go with it ? And how i charge this? Can you help me?🙏
Tukar ke Indonesia 5 very dangerous fruits damage the capacitor, because the electric charging of the motor can reach 14.5 volts, especially if the problematic electricity charging reaches 16.4 volts, do you not see this risk, at least use 7 capacitors for the safety and durability of the capasitor to support usage daily.
There are surges in voltage which may be causing overcharge.. Normal capacitors will burn, melt and may cause fire.. Also they can't hold charge for long.. if u go to start the bike after a week or month, what will happen.. it won't start.. if this was possible, we can replace batteries everywhere in work with capacitors..
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This thing works for bike's..but protection board is required for overcharging.. each super capacitor costs rs300x 5= 1500.. costly but it's Worth... Will last for many years..
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A 12 volts battery can give atleast 10 powerful sparks, or Atleast 7 self start kicks. The capacitor just goes of with 2 sparks. No problem you need some tution on Amperes and volts.
C= Q/V, V= Q/C , v= 2.7 × 5= 13.5 V, net capacitance = 100 F , energy= 0.5 cv2= 9112.5 J , Horn consumption= 24 W x 2 s= 48 J Light= 10×2 = 20 J Too much energy left to start bike. Possible But capacitor must be charged when bike is turned off using relay to avoid body loss.
Totally misguided video.By connecting capacitors in series there capacitance decreases then how you start your bike.Arey bhai kion logon ko bewkoof bana raha hai.
Mere pass 50v 4700uf capacitor hai mai use meri 2 wheeler mai use kar sakta hu kya, Gadi self star nahi hai battery ki jagah per capacitor use kar sakata hu to or kai karu
@@vivekadvancedtechnology1209 A battery's voltage stays nearly constant as it discharges at a constant current. Thus the power output is nearly constant. A capacitor's voltage drops linearly at a constant current. Thus, power output over time drops linearly. In order to use the capacitor as a battery replacement, you needa voltage regulation circuit that can step up voltage as it drops, which means you need a linear increase in current output to deliver a constant power output
