Resident Evil 2 Remake PC Patch Disappoints: Capcom's Ports Simply Aren't Good Enough 

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We were spared Lineman.

RT looks like shit, nothing mind blowing, bland as usual.

Barely RT and extra stutters are most likely a trigger!

this was a very poor ray tracing implementation 😔

& Mods.

As a beta branch thing this is really clunky. They should have just done a DX11 build and DX12 build and then the user can choose which DX version the game runs in. Lots of other games do this. And yes, releasing a patch that effectively makes a game unplayable for a portion of your audience is a really poor thing to do.

@@Chris-yc3mm That requires work though. And Capcom is clearly pretty incompetent when it comes to the small things, like that.

@@Chris-yc3mm Yes but that would take considerably more effort than just releasing the old build for download. ie: you'd need differing duplicates of assets because the assets are different between versions and in order to avoid file name conflicts, rename the duplicates and then rebuild the game with the new file names... If you always planned to keep the old releases accessible you could have been forward thinking when making the updated version of the game and had the new version use new file names, but that was clearly not the original intent from Capcom, they clearly wanted to replace the existing release. What we got is a lot better than them shrugging at the issues being raised.

Thiago Vidal: That was the main outcry before it became evident that the game was a big downgrade for anyone not using Ray Tracing.

Supersampling ftw

@@Psych0technic I miss msaa so much

Doesn't look good, although I'm kind of biased in this regard whenever I see from soft behavior.. nobody remembers that the original dark souls PC port required a user mod just to run, kind of at all.. and it was never patched despite them releasing two different versions if I recall that both required that patch to run in anything other than 720p 30.. and a little bit more extensive modification just to rebind bsic keybinds... After seeing them genuinely ghost on the resident evil 8 stutter until the privateering blast and DF calling them out I just kind of couldn't help but think they're like a slightly more technically competent version of the same thing... Now granted, I don't think they've done anything as bad as offering you a discount if you bought the broken version of a game that they never patched when they release the HD remaster.. that's a bandai namco from soft special.. at least so far anyways, but then I don't think anybody's ever quite released such a broken game as dark souls on the PC, OR at the very least not since the internet became a common place thing.. certainly not one that wasn't addressed or even even just acknowledged within a certain amount of time. Which you could almost forgive the developers for being confused given that, what was it back in 2013 or something this thing still pulled up 80 plus on the metacritic, as reliable then as it is now LOL... Industry promotional curating content critiques.. I really wish people would stop calling it journalism, it never was.. and it certainly isn't now. So yeah, I got similar vibes of not giving a flying f from Capcom as of the last few years, I was just confusing cuz they seem to be technically competent whereas from soft is about the polar opposite of that, is almost worse maybe? Cuz they know better?

@@Psych0technicRe engine games look so freaming good with supersampling, specially resident evil village, the trees look awesome and cristal clear with it.

'Simply not working' is an extreme exaggeration. The TAA literally just uses less frames. Which is actually very welcome on PC. PC ports *need* less intense and aggressive TAAs, because the blur and loss of motion clarity strikes a lot harder at a monitor viewing distance.

NOOOO

Bruh 💀 Thanks for clarifying though. Such a backwards ass approach to realease updates that long after release, screw it up and then not even attempt to fix it...............

thank you 🙏🙏

...god damn it

Thanks. I'm going to download dx11 version I guess

Vulkan FTW.

i got 4K 60 max settings with RT on no problems at all DLSS not needed

You don't need dlss for 60 fps with max settings + rt on anything 3060ti and up

the only thing it has helped with is emulators, they been loving it.

@@gamzillio definitely... They are very similar, but curiously every Vulkan game I have seen works way better than DX12

The problem is that the games are mainley programed for consoles the last gen PS4 and current Gen PS5

​@@danielweiss4498 Definitely a big part of it. As PC gamers I think we're all burnt out on companies claiming to "shift towards support PC" but constantly deliver lackluster ports. I understand the economics that drive this, but I wish they'd just be honest.

Don't worry about it. They will not bother to correct these issues with the current games, nor will they bother with the future games. It's obvious. This is not something that goes unnoticed during development. I don't know who exactly is to blame here... Whether it's capcom the publisher or capcoms development studio but since capcom launched the games in this state then capcom is to blame.

@@sermerlin1 The problem is that the games are mainley programed for consoles the last gen PS4 and current Gen PS5 . Games just Ported then to pc

Stop moaning and stop pirating games PC port beggers

To be fair, it's much more difficult to port games to the PC because there are so many different types of computers, and you never know what might go wrong on some computers during gameplay. There's no excuse for it, but many things can go wrong when making a PC game. Just ask Five Nights At Freddy's Security Breach. That game was full of game breaking glitches but have been patched.

The RT effects look very good compared to the ssr they had before which was grainy and an eye sore. There however should be an option for the dx11 game.

Raytracing is too demanding

@@Keepskatin not in this game. It’s like a 15 fps hit and as long as u were hitting 70+ b4 Rt u won’t notice the difference. Go to hitman if u wanna see some actual expensive Rt

PC gaming in a nutshell right here.

Really is no excuse for scewing up AA these days.

They updated the engine... and that basically means they'd have to reimplement the old things in a slightly different way to make them work better. They pretty much rushed these updates to release without proper testing and assumed everything would still work the same.

@@thenonexistinghero platforms like steam have the option to run different versions of games. They should have seen this coming and taken advantage of it day one. Thanks for the explanation though, it helps it make a bit more sense

@@ramonandrajo6348 No, devs just suck at using DX12.

Compared to Vullkan DX12 sucks major ass, its funny how many games run smoother when using VKD3D over DX12.

​@@ramonandrajo6348 I know every game I tested with with dx 12 sucks.

Dx12 should be better But their Code is shit that's why it's running slower

directx 12 gives developers control over things that were before automated on the driver side, e.g. when to compile shaders. so in theory developers can get more out of this and optimize specifically for their needs, but if you dont put the effort in, it can end up worse than what the driver was doing in dx11. this is usually the case in games that support both APIs unfortunately since the games are not built for dx12 and very rarely get optimized well for the new API. so yeah, when both are available, chances are dx11 is still faster, i only trust games that are dx12 from the ground up

@@ruijikisu Elden Ring made not trust any game with dx12. Dx11/Vulkan, even OpenGL is better

It doesn't make everything worse. DX12 is amazing when done right.

The basic gist of it is that DX12 requires more work. But if the work is done right, it has the potential to run a lot better since it gives developers more control over the hardware.

Problem is, performance doesn't allow them to impress people with nice screenshots and scripted trailers

@@Jonen560ti Hence why I said it's easier to "sell" graphics. But yes, I agree.

@@G-RED71 Sorry, forgot to click "read more". It's kinda sad. Insomniac said they were gonna stop targeting 60fps specifically because they noticed that performance had almost no effect on review scores and sales

Consumers push for graphics over performance. And in game development the people working on the artists and developers are not the same people.

Funny that you say this in a RE Engine video considering this is the best engine around when it comes to performance while having great graphics, but people will forget anything that came before when one bad thing happens.

Exactly. Dx12 being released needs competent coding and development to improve performance significantly at a low level hence why big developers like capcom are being caught out. They've gotten away with being lazy and incompetent bastards for too long expecting Dx11 to shore up performance in games. Back in the day when hardware was very limited the best programmers really stood out. Now? They're a waste of salary.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider seems like the outlier in that the DX12 mode outperforms the DX11 mode. I wonder what special sauce those devs used.

@@ericm.3227 Doom saw an absolutely bonkers performance uplift going from OpenGL to Vulkan and that's roughly equivalent to DX11 to DX12. Same principle, more low level access and less abstractions/automation.

It’s really hard to code for DX12 so no wonder most games using it run like crap.

@@SalivatingSteve Developers have had since 2015 to get accustomed to DX12. They need to either stop being garbage or update their engines to not be garbage with newer API's

This is the case with many DX12 games. DX12 has issues with asset streaming if not properly optimized. Battlefield titles and Elden Ring suffer from this too. If you ever have issues with DX12, try DX11 or Vulkan.

@@brandonjohnson4121 Can't wait for DirectStorage to start getting used in games. It seems to be needed with new AAA games with the amount of data they have to push around the system.

@@sean8102 Can't wait for being forced to constantly 'upgrade' Windows to versions that make using it a worse and worse experience every single update. Technology would be adopted a lot better if companies stopped shitting the bed and backported things like was common in the old days. "rapid release cycle" software has been nothing but a huge negative.

They works fine on console, problem is most devs are just using wrapper to wrap their DX11 engine. Most likely because they wanted access to features available in DX12. Unfortunately, these wrapper introduces performance overhead. Game engines need to be natively written for DX12 for it to work as intended.

Monster Hunter World has the worst TAA implementation I've ever seen in a modern game. I actually stopped playing it because of that.

Yeah, it just blurs things in motion but then resolves to look almost identical to AA off if static, just a slight change in brightness. TAA+FXAA is like running FXAA with a side offering of temporal smear. Really wish they bothered fixing it or updating the DLSS to 2.0 or higher cause I adore that game (although if Rise's recent implementation is anything to go by maybe it's good they didn't bother).

Eh just leave it default, move up or down as you see fit.

Re2 remake, re3 remake and re7 have denuvo on PC removed bro. It is only re8 on PC that still has denuvo.

Absolutely floating! Probably only visible with that camera angle though.

2060 as well. Going from 170FPS to barely 60 is a joke, even without using ray tracing

@Mazzy I guess you could try Interlacing for FSR but I don't remember it improving the FPS that much. The ray tracing doesn't even look that nice in my opinion, nothing compared to a game like Control and that ran great with DLSS

The PS2 output is too sharp. Play it on PS1 hardware instead with either RGB or S video

@@aweigh1010 remake is missing content after content. So no.

@@aweigh1010 I've seen you in other comment threads already. And it seems like you're here to just trigger people. So I'm not gonna indulge you any further. Have a nice day.

Just checked, they say TAA should be fixed now.

At least there is youtube for us to watch walkthroughs of these gamees huh🥲

Why not add some cheapo GPU? You could probably pick up an old R9 280X for like £25

@@Arcona he might not be living in the west

@@swapnilgohil7280 but an old GPU should still be cheap most places.

@@Arcona Like Swapnil said, I indeed don't live in the "good part" of the West, the GPU you mentioned still goes for quite a bit, sadly. And a bonus for myself, my 2GB RAM stick stopped working and now I'm only at 4GB, isn't that wonderful? Haha.

Where can I find that info? I’ve speedran RE2 probably 35+ times. I would love to know what they changed. Idk if it was just me, but I couldn’t get Mr.X to smash the wall down when playing as Leon. I tried for like 20 minutes just leaving and exiting that special room. That would be a shame if they removed or somehow bugged that moment out.

@@JohnWick-kb5jr from what i know/heard from other people, stairskates downwards are slightly slower, and there are quite a few ai changes like enemies being in slightly different positions in RPD , most people have decided to just downpatch since it's really easy now

DX12 does HDR and RT

So does Vulcan, devs should target Vulcan to begin with

@@ppolo12 I'm still waiting for a game + hardware combination where turning on RT really makes sense. HDR is nice, on my TV. Shame there still are so few good options for desktop monitors. But we could've had HDR (and RT eventually, when the hardware made it worthwhile) with DX11 if they hadn't abandoned it to make DX12. :-(

I use this trick in games that have DLSS. With my native res at 1440p I use DLDSR with DLSS performance or balanced to get end up with around the rendered pixels count but significantly improved IQ

With DLSS, absolutely as it produces a near perfect image. With FSR 1.0, hell no. Idk what Alex was thinking recommending it here as the end result looks almost objectively worse than simple native 4k, but I guess he was only focusing on RT which is slightly improved due to the higher internal resolution. Still not worth it using it with FSR 9,5 times out of 10. But as Capcom continues to pander to AMD with console parity, we can kiss DLSS goodbye.

Huh? You can't use DLDSR for 5K on a 1440p monitor. DLDSR is only available for 1.78x and 2.25x resolution factors. And if your game is stuttering from being CPU bound, you should just set a lower frame rate cap. DLDSR is pretty cool, but it also seems to apply some form of sharpening. Setting the DSR smoothness to 0% with DLDSR looks oversharpened and I need to turn it up to ~33% to look good. With DSR I just set it to 4x and 0% smoothness, so I get all the detail without oversharpening or blurring.

the ultimate part has nothing to do with it - it's the part of DX12 that is a double-edged sword that is the problem for devs who are 'lazy' - you can get better performance on the same hardware but you have to work for it, and if you don't do that work, you will have worse performance than DX11. Devs have only themselves to blame, not some newer version of an API that has been out for years and arleady made clear the issue.

Oh jeez, I’m out the loop on that. What’s the issue with it?

You have to use the newer version to enable RT

@@NN010 boo

Same im debating it too, though im content with the performance as is on my system

You clearly got turned on by the week Alex was in a vest…

You clearly got turned on by the week Alex was in a vest…

Alex Bataglia da god

Are you sure? Have you tried changing the desktop resolution to the DLDSR res before launching the game? I don't have Monster Hunter but I've run into that problem in other games and got around it doing that.

Yes. I tried it this morning. 3440x1440 monitor. DLSR to 1.78x, set desktop res to DLDSR res and launch the game. Result: game runs at 1920x1200 (what? Why?) and treats that as the max res you can set. I tried tricking the game by changing the screen res after launching and that just resulted in the game poorly stretching the image to the higher res. The game does not support full screen, only borderless windowed. That may have something to do with it.

it was just a point to illustrate how much frame data the game takes into consideration in the new version, that RPD camera feed was never supposed to look clean and clear

He said lack of TAA ghosting indicates fewer frame data being used compared to consoles. In the context of broken image reconstruction as well it shows the lack of effort put towards the PC version.

@@aweigh1010 what makes you think I'm mad? You're the one getting worked up over someone else's opinion on random graphical tech. Not that you care to understand my opinion, but the reason I don't mind jaggies is that on high end and future hardware you can go back to older games and supersample them for absolutely perfect anti aliasing. You can't do that anymore, there's no way to fix a bad TAA Implementation with ghosting everywhere. Artifacts are bad, and usually avoidable with some tuning. I don't care if it's caused by bad TAA, SSR with bad cubemaps, overreliance on SSAO, low shadow biases, or whatever. The effects themselves are fine, but if used improperly look terrible. I just want the OPTION for a clean image I can clean up however I want with supersampling or basic reshade aa. The fact that offends you is quite peculiar.

@@Taijifufu it just seems strange that one of the few times TAA ghosting is ever brought up, it's treated as something that SHOULD be there

@@existentialselkath1264 It's in a situation where there are no motion vectors to eliminate ghosting. So yeah, ghosting there is technically correct thing for TAA as it's "told" it's a static surface. It's mostly an edge case that lends itself to be used as an example, not something that's representative of majority of rendering the game does where TAA has mostly correct info where to invalidate previous frames.

When you can't buy a pc and make comments to make yourself feel good about your purchase.

Because PS5s are so easy to buy these days right?

I'm still waiting for Capcom to release Devil May Cry 5 Special Edition on PC... Annnnnnny minute now

@@AL2009man hope 🙏

@@AL2009man another potential trainwreck!

If you’re releasing on pc I expect you to also have that one in mind, I’m with Alex on this one.

PC fanboy being toxic be like:

Just checked, they say TAA should be fixed now.