Resident Evil 2: Wonderful Game, Wasted Remake 

That's my only big complaint, their friendship is not believable to me.

I mean they get split up a lot and their attachment to eachother still makes sense given that they’re two of the only sane people around and feel safer together

@@ethanbailey1956 yeah but still, there's no excuse for them not to interact in-game.

@@oswiroa4973 It’d be nice if there was more interaction between them between the beginning and end, but they keep getting split up via the plot inconveniencing them so I don’t think it’s unconvincing writing as much as it is the writers fault for not giving more opportunities for interaction

It's also silly how few differences there are between both runs, same bosses (in the same places) and all

Thank you for the clarification! From what I can tell, a good chunk of the compositions were still done by Uchiyama. residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/BIOHAZARD_2_COMPLETE_TRACK

Their's barley any music in RE2make so i just put on the OG soundtrack it's still the best PS1 soundtrack I've heard till this day.

TurtleDude Tokio and that barely has all the sountracks in it either it’s missing some from the original game

@@turtleguymcturtle4303 parasite Eve 1 also do an excellent job as soundtrack. I'll recommend You to play that game if u haven't

@@sebaloko99bt Well it's the time of the month might aswell add it to the collection.

RE Village also proves how absurd that rationale for RE2 Remake is, by not only offering a more massive variety of enemies and bosses (built from the ground up in the RE Engine, without a prior game to directly copy), but also adding monsters and set-pieces far more fantastical than a big alligator, killer plants, etc.

@@markcobuzzi826 I think the contrasting of RE2R’s realism and RE8’s fantastic is actually a great narrative tool to explain how the world has changed so much since the Raccoon City incident

@@yaboytroy357 Even so, that sense of contrast could just as easily be present, without the creators needing to show an apparent disdain for the original RE2’s monster variety. As I implied, the original RE2 already felt more realistic compared to RE8, and I thought the RE1 Remake also did a decent job at playing itself more straight as a grounded gritty horror game, without dumbing down or doing away with the original RE1’s creature/gameplay quirks.

too bad re4 remake will be the most realistic boring game ever made

They go after trends

Agreed. I don't mind realism in videogames. But the attitude by everyone on the planet is they forget that videogames will never ever be real enough to be realistic. No matter how hard they try.

Last time I checked there wasn't a horde of zombies outside my house and a fedora wearing giant chasing me.

@@workingpeon9316 Well yeah, those elements aren't realistic enough so they were cut.

I don’t want to live in a universe which Resident Evil is realistic

Not sure playing games as a means for escapism has anything to do with realism. Games are not any lesser because they're more realistic than the past; that actually makes them even more brilliant.

I love this haha

Damn, that's good.

@murat balamsa As someone who never played the original RE2 before 2020 I agree with the most of ur points When I was playing RE2R I realized that I'm doing completely the same objectives as both characters and none of them makes sense I prefer to play 2 scenario(like RE4 or RE6) instead of 4 scenario with barely noticeable differences William Birkin's scenes when he inject the virus to himself and attacked to uss was very lame But in the end still it's good game, especially if you compare it to RE3R

@murat balamsa Everything you pointed out, was absolutely spot on. The fact that people like you, who see exactly how this game really is, and yet people still try to justify the outcome of it, is beyond infuriating. I'll be honest here. At first, I wasn't a fan of RE6, but ever since RE7 and Village have been released, it's made me respect it even more. Because at least it actually looks and plays like a Resident Evil game. These shitmakes are a disgrace to their source material, and should never have happened the way they did.

@murat balamsa Yeah, you're welcome mate. Unlike most of these idiotic modern fanboys, who will make just about any lame excuse, on why these shitmakes are good, and why they won't read your comment, because it's "too long", I have the patience to read through it. It's a shame that people like you and me are minorities now!

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Resident Evil's lore in canon is dog shit because of this. Capcom continues to retcon because each time they do a new game, they don't even bother to set the story and check for canon.

RE4 remake has been heavily rumored for awhile and was actually leaked nearly two years ago. It's only a matter of time before it's announced.

@@the757general2 This was posted a year ago, when the leaks weren't substantiated much. In the last 11 or 12 months we've gotten staff lists and details on the project.

And this is a good thing. Story has never been it’s strong suit and who gives a shit about the universe of it. If things connect cool, but not everything needs a story behind it. Sometimes it’s just cool stuff. Let them change what they want. It doesn’t matter.

This is what bugs me the most. Like they don't even have the Radio to contact eachother with? I have hard time believing we are running around the building at the same time and never run into eachother. Like okay sure

It kinda makes agitated that the game developers took away random content from this game remake.

Well the only interaction they had was already a pain to watch. They just smiled at each other and ask stupid questions oh how are u, I'm good how are YOU? Oh yeah let's just chill here and pretend like there's no zombie apocalypse happening around us, just the two of us blushing and smiling under the rain. Seeing that, I don't want to see more interaction between them. At least the OG was very relevant and they went straight to the point and objectives. Talk about Chris's whereabout, then what's the next plan and objectives. 1) Get out of here 2) Help survivors along the way 3) Update each other on the walkie. It was quick and relevant. We didn't have to suffer on meaningless interactions of remake re2.

with the quality of the writing in this game, which can be highlighted by the great dialogues we are able to experience, I think it's for the best that they don't meet each other. Seriously

Well, that´s at least something.

luckily there is already a mod for that claire

I agree with you about Kendo’s death in the original! You didnt see it coming! In the remake. Kendo is changed into something completely different.

Exactly, I enjoyed and even liked RE3R, as its own game is decent, but as a Remake is just terrible. Also I am so pissed they took away what I liked more from the originals. In RE2R the A/B scenarios and how they coexist with one another, including the effects one game had in the other (as little as they were). In RE3R the Clock Tower and Jill revisiting the Police Station.

Watch "warytherook's" amazing RE2 Remake video which does an amazing job dissecting why it's GARBAGE

Love this kinda brainstorming :)

Yeah, I tried playing a speed run where I had much less ammo, and I ended up getting killed because I didnt know this. Ended up throwing my whole speed run off because I hadn't saved.

The Bossfights in this game are just as bad, boring and terribly designed as boss fights in any other game, what do you expect? How should anyone know, for example, that Mr. X has a weakspot on his chest and not on his head? Correct, not at all. Result - frustration, boring gameplay, rinse and repeat.

@@Einheit101 Bruh anyone who has played video games (especially Resident Evil games) knows to shoot a glowing pulsating thingy, *especially* if it wasn't there before

Oh... Yeah that would have definitely been great to know, I started by opening up with my remaining anti-tank missile shots and kept dying until one time I tried saving them for later. That explains why I kept dying for a reason I couldn't tell

bro imagine crying for outdated tank controls

I am crying. Sincere and honest tears coming out. Any control scheme can be done well or poorly depending on the developer's competence.

@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 idk why you think the devs would ever wanna make a tank control game in todays world. MAYBE they'd add a "classic" mode where there are fixed cams to please babys like you.

Yet people still play Resident Evil 4, it has been rereleased a number of times, it's considered one of the best games ever made, and it has tank controls. Call me a baby all you want, but I see potential in everything.

@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 every game is considered one of the bests ever made by fans of it

Man, people really are butthurt over the missing spiders. I did miss the "advanced" Lickers, though, and don't know why they were removed.

@@williamhiers1280 Ironic, since those spiders people are "butthurt" about are cut for the same reason the advanced lickers (that you miss) were

@Dantes230 Man you cannot handle different opinions

RE 2 & 3 weren't directed by Mikami though. He didn't want to make more RE sequels but Capcom was having none of that so they pushed him to keep producing more RE titles eventually Mikami directed to the best games of the series Remake and 4.

@@kevinfromsales9445 the person you replied to knows that, I don't know what led you to think that she didn't imply that.

I hope he's screaming. His stupid and frankly mindboggling ideas where the series should have went are just... look at "Evil Within" - that's what he wanted RE to be. "No thanks, bro."

@@paulmares9815 haven't really played either of the evil within games. What's so bad about them?

@@paulmares9815 can't be worse than RE6 and RE7 right?

I dunno about it being strictly fixed camera, but it would've been cool to be able to choose between fixed, behind the shoulder, and 1st person. It's not nearly as difficult as people make it seem.

Maybe he was replaced?

@@starrystreams3642 I'm going by the Japanese script.

Exactly I had this theory that RE2 REmake and possibly RE7 are in the alternative timeline

@@turtleguymcturtle4303 No, Capcom have admitted that RE7 is canon. But RE2make? God no, it shoudn't, but only Capcom can say.

@@ChiefMedicPururu Yes. Which unfortunately means that the Mr. "I'm Redfield" is also cannon..... 🤦‍♂️

I think the original games were campy because everything at the time was. However, what we expect an RE to be like shaped over the years and unfortunately they went for an anime like thing, starting with RE0 and Code Veronica. The original 3 games allow for realistic remakes and I'm glad they're going that direction. I like RE, but boy has every game after the original three titles and REMAKE been a letdown.

And isn't RE2MAKE pretty close to 80s horror and 80s action movies? How can you say it isn't when Claire literally jumps on an elevator with an angry birkin going like 'yeah I got this' and Ada hacks devices with technology so stupid it will not even exist in 600 years?

@DarkSonic180 yapp. But not as campy.

Haha what a story, Sir Exile.

What is the mod called?

I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. It has severe gameplay mechanical issues (RNG out the ass), the original is much tighter and better designed. It is still drawing from RE4 though, so yeah the 4 remake is the best RE game since RE4 probably, it just has some gameplay issues.

​@@steel5897 Sorry but i disagree. The original was too formulaic and repetitive, and it's my favorite game of all time as well. But shooting head once, kick, repeat for a thousand times makes it tiring by the end of the castle and the island, everyone feels burned out by that point because of that. I'd say the rng makes the combat better, since if you don't get the stagger you have to quickly come up with a plan whether it's a flash grenade, a hand grenade or a shotgun to keep distance.

@sonic 1995 no it doesn't, that's the reason why you have 5 different weapons.

@sonic 1995 How does it punish you for playing well? If you ARE playing well using all the weapons and good spacing comes naturally. If by playing well you mean shooting vitals and taking a melee for granted it's not playing well, it's playing in a formulaic manner.

Your individual unwillingness learn how a game works just because you're unfamiliar with the type of game it is has nothing to do with anything. Especially if you're implying those types of games shouldn't be made just because you're not used to them - Which I'm forced to think is the case considering you're responding to my arguments about their validity to exist, with a personal anecdote about how you don't care to learn a different control scheme and camera type.

@@RubyofBlue dude shut up

@@RubyofBlue he’s right, tank controls are dogshit and always have been

@@davidson6738 Thats his opinion dipshit he's not right.

Capcom are lazy as hell. They have no creative vision, just the vision for quick cash ins. Re3r highlights this very well

@@ourevilone true

lol, the RE3 Remake was even worse.

@@claireredfield7368 yeah😫

The OG OST feels extremely out of place. I tend to play using the new sound.

the only thing i don't like about playing the Re3 from the psn is that, this game version is the one where the music box puzzle is *random*( a really hard random)

After buying re2make it made me REALLY want to play classic 2 and 3, I don’t regret a thing

@@jestaplushgal3528 if only there where more people like tou

I bought a GameCube and PS2 just so I could play the original RE2. I enjoyed the RE2 Remake but it didn’t satisfy me the way the original did.

Yeah, I did the same with both RE2/RE3 (I bought both games together) and FF7R, I have always loved the original of all those games, but my appreciation for them has increased even more now that I wss disappointed with the Remakes, and to think I was so hyped to get the Remakes of my favorite characters overall in vídeogames, Tifa Lockhart and Jill Valentine.

Interesting. What episode was that?

That's acute opinion ta got there. :) Luckily, the remake sold more

Frog Glen ah, the classic tlj defense “if it’s so bad, then why did it sell well?” Well I have one word for you buddy: transformers

You mean 1 year, right? It released last year. I prefer the original for being more consistent, despite how cheesy it is.

Saying RE2 Remake is a movie is ignorant and shows that you're the one who didn't bother playing it at all. It's not a bad game, just a mediocre remake.

@@Angel-kc7ck i dont see how its ignorant. I played re2remake from start to end... hated it. Vowed to watch re3 on youtube... and I did. It was a good movie... if they spend 0 dollars on programmers and just spent all money on a movie it would be even better. There is 0 replay value... its like REWATCHING a movie playing this more than once... no new paths...nothing special. Zombies taking 13 headshots alone is so terrible. Enjoy the future of this series... Re2remake was the last time they get my money. Until tank controls come back....if ever... i'll never support this horrible series again. Enjoy re8 and all the ghosts and goblins... lol.

@@AngerOfTheLand Hating a game is not a good argument to call it a "movie". There is replay value for most people, hence why the game stayed alive for months unlike RE3R which is pretty much dying already. Complaining about bullet sponge zombies is stupid. They have been bullet sponges since the very first game. And the way you're phrasing makes it look like the only thing you care about is tank controls and that alone makes you decide if a game is good or bad, and that's stupid.

I was thinking definitely re3 remake was a good movie. I enjoyed most of the cutscenes unlike re2r where they couldnt line up the story at all like the original did

amen brother

I disagree. The over the shoulder camera would be even more restricting than the fixed camera because of how tight the environments are in re1.

​@Leotis Bennett In my personal "onion", at least, the remake definitely made other improvements which I have been wanting since I played the original, besides just giving modern graphics. *However,* I agree with almost everyone else that the remake created many of its own downgrades too. If I were to sum up my feelings on the original versus remake below... *Things Which the Original Did Better For Me:* 1.) The the A and B scenarios share a set of events that have actual narrative continuity, unlike most of First Run and Second Run in remake. 2.) Far greater variety of alternate plot points, based on whether you played in the order of Leon/Claire versus Claire/Leon. 3.) A default set of soundtracks that actually feels finished, plus the music for the main hall and save rooms can "amazingly" loop. 4.) Greater quantity of enemy types (the remake cuts numerous enemies, while the only enemies it adds are Pale Heads and regular zombies buffed/equipped with armor/poison/explosives/packs, both of which are pretty much exclusive to Ghost Survivors anyway and not even part of the main campaign). 5.) The laboratory's explorable area is bigger from what I recall (whereas numerous bits in the remake's lab are either absent like the moth rooms or relegated to appearing briefly during the self-destruct gauntlets like the security camera room). 6.) The inclusion of a zapping system for certain mechanics. 7.) All of its alternate costumes are unlockable, while the remake paywalls some of its costumes. *Things Which the Remake Did Better For Me:* 1.) An overall more fleshed out variety of weapons (like more prominent flamethrower/spark-shot, inclusion of RE1 Remake-style defense weapons, more depth to gun variations/upgrading, and a simple gunpowder crafting system). 2.) The quality of enemies retained (the zombies, zombie dogs, Lickers, repurposed G-Spawn, and redesigned Ivies gave me a greater variety of challenges, fit the combat style well, and encouraged me to actually use different weapons for different monsters). 3.) All of the encounters/battles with Mr. X and William Birkin (although the alligator was unfortunately put in as an afterthought, and I felt the lack of improvement in that one boss shows). 4.) More differentiated scenarios involving Ada Wong and Sherry Birkin. 5.) The RPD and sewers felt like they got an ideal RE1 Remake-style expansion/rearrangement, plus I liked the added orphanage area. 6.) The controls and inventory mechanics getting some upgrades like the instant 180-degree turn found in RE3 onwards, an ability to instantly combine items, hip pouches having a more fleshed out role, and the map having conveniences borrowed from the RE1 Remake. 7.) The addition of models, concept art, and challenges to the variety of bonus content. *I have not played the bonus modes in either version extensively enough to judge for myself, whether I appreciate the Old HUNK/Tofu and Extreme Battle modes versus the New HUNK/Tofu and Ghost Survivors modes more.*

In that case it's pretty much impossible to tell such a thing on Hardcore lol

Finally someone who thinks like me!

@Dantes230 You say that only because you never played Original. Original destroy remake in every aspect except graphics. And graphics is least important because story make something great and REtrashmake have no story that connect with canon. Even Capcom confidential Episode 15 confirms that RE2trashmake is not canon, just revisiting RE2 with modern graphics. Same was with Darkside Chronicles or something like that. RE2 and 3 trashmakes are just part of same death of games since every game is same trash with different bag. What is difference between trashmakes and TLOU, Days Gone etc... They are same crap with same controls and same gameplay. Games industry is dead and will remain dead until games become different again. New "games" are made for braindead like you who cannot accept different gameplays so you have meltdown because you're limited

@@michaelstark8720 ok, buddy let people enjoy what they want to enjoy, doesn't matter if they've played the originals or not, I've played the originals RE2 '98 was great and RE3 '99 was good, and I thoroughly really enjoyed the remakes, cept maybe RE3 remake which was pretty lack luster and the gaming industry is bigger then ever now, with the xbox series x and PS5 coming out with all the new games coming, it is far from being dead but if that's how you feel fine at the end of the day it's your opinion, all I'm saying is don't start insulting people just because you didn't like what was givin to you but others might, if they say the remake is better than the original then fine that's what they think, don't make a big deal out of it

@@michaelstark8720 wow dude get off your soapbox and relax. Just because you don't enjoy those games, doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't.

@@michaelstark8720 Oh wait, hes the one that cant accept different gameplay aspects? Ha!

@@michaelstark8720 I can give you another way the remake destroys the original. Gameplay. It's still not the best gameplay but it's leagues better.

Facts 2 or 3 what the's were ok... but every room??? C'mon

@@dizceedot21 *Plops flashbang in zombie's mouth* *.......* Leon: "What the?" *POP* Leon: "What the?" Leon: "You won't shoot me" *Ada gets shot in the shoulder* Leon: "What the?" *Ada falls and is grabbed by the hand from Leon* Ada: "Just let me fall, Leon" Leon: "What the?" *slips*

JESUS CHRIST

Poor dude was just asking for water

He follows the Barry trend of asking for what things are. "What is this place?, what was that?, what is happening?"

REmake didn't replace the original on me at least. To me, OG RE is still the pioneering stone of game design and stands out from the rest of the series. REmake is just a nice candy wrapper for the original game.

@Proism Gaming I'd rather not associate REmake with RE2(2019) or RE3(2020).

The original Resident Evil is still one of my favourites.

@@d-d-i Can't see it your way. IMO, REmake was beyond just a graphics upgrade. It perfected the original completely in every way. There isn't a remake of any other game in existence that nails it as well as REmake did

@Robert Ito To be fair, Remake wasn’t perfect, particularly with Barry’s story. In Remake it is way too obvious that he is a traitor and that hurts the intrigue and makes Jill seem dumb. At the part where they fight Lisa together, Barry even lets it slip that he was being coerced to mess with Jill. Then the fight ends and Jill doesn’t even acknowledge that Barry pulled a gun on her. It is a glaring plot error. IMO Chris’ scenario is completely improved but Jill’s has problems with the plot not present in the original. Still miles better than the newest remakes though.

pretty much ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3wUgKJ-VzIA.html vid explains it well, his character is completely butchered the moment u slightly look into his characterization and actions, which also ruins Ada as none of her actions make sense unless its solely to trick leon and no one else

It is a great shame indeed. The closest we ever got was the brief visit to the Factory & Lab Access in 0...

im so confused rn, what's the difference of a remake vs a remaster? and why is RE1 called a remake than a remaster?

​@@covfefewithextracream5569 Generally speaking, people will call something as a “remaster”, if it is primarily made from recycled assets that got polished/modified. One example could be when a movie gets rereleased in Blu Ray quality vs. DVD quality. Another could be when the Star Wars special editions came out, with polished image quality and some previously cut footage being put back in, among other changes. When the creators are pretty much starting over from scratch and rebuilding everything from the ground up, that is usually when people call it a “remake”. For example, Peter Jackson’s remake of King Kong was its own new production, from start to finish, and was not made by simply recycling footage, audio, props, etc. used to make the original 1933 version. Now, remakes can range from being so similar to the original product that people call it a “shot-for-shot remake”, to being so different that it overlaps with what people may call a “reimagining”. When a new version of RE1 was made for the GameCube in 2002, that was remake built from scratch. Later on, the 2002 version’s assets were recycled and polished in 2015 to create “Resident Evil Remastered”. Basically, the 2015 version of RE1 was a remaster of a remake. So if the title was being more technical and fully informative, it would probably say “Resident Evil Remake Remastered”.

Remasters are just ports with slightly touched up assets. Look at Resident evil 1 remake. The gamecube version from 2002 is a remake of the 1996 psone game, while the 2015 port of said game is a remaster with improved resolution and some tweaks.

Remasters are just ports with slightly touched up assets. Look at Resident evil 1 remake. The gamecube version from 2002 is a remake of the 1996 psone game, while the 2015 port of said game is a remaster with improved resolution and some tweaks.

It's not even zapping and scenarios themselves, it's about remaking a game. If you're gonna call it a remake - that reMAKE, don't just delete

I mean, adding in the context of RE1/REmake, not having well thought out scenarios for Jill & Chris and basically having you play the same game twice, RE2 managed to improve on the first game, cementing its own identity in the process. Sadly, RE2R does not go through that same vital and cool process

@@AndrewSF8898 Yeah, if they were set on making just two scenarios - could've gone with the canonical Claire A and Leon B

@@AndrewSF8898 One thing to point out in RE1's favor, however, is that both of its campaigns were at least coherent and self-contained, within the context of their own parallel universes. But for the RE2 Remake, all four of its scenarios are both too incomplete to work as self-contained stories in their own timelines (like in original RE1 and its remake), yet also too repetitive and contradictory to act as puzzle pieces to a bigger narrative (like in original RE2). Cases in point below... When you picked either Chris or Jill, you defeated all of the bosses as one character (including the final one right from the get-go), you could explore all of the rooms as one character, Barry/Rebecca do not appear at all in the opposite campaign (so there are no loose ends involving them), your main partner gets locked in a cell until the end (implying that not much happened with them offscreen), plus all of Chris and Jill's story bits can happen in one playthrough. Therefore, the Chris and Jill campaigns were both all-encompassing enough to actually feel like alternate variations of the whole story, rather than separate fragments of a bigger narrative that somehow need to interlock. With the RE2 Remake, however, it is impossible to see all beginning parts in one playthrough (ie: entering the convenience store, going through the RPD's front entrance versus side entrance, meeting Marvin, and seeing Mr. X early on the computer screen), you cannot explore all sections of the game as one character, the final boss fight with G5 and ending cutscene are withheld in First Run, Leon Kennedy's Second Run has him fighting G3 and then going right to G5 (implying that someone had to fight G4 offscreen, yet Claire's campaign feels the need to show Mr. X getting killed early, as though the opposite characters's penultimate boss should not be happening offscreen), plus Leon Kennedy meets Sherry Birkin with Claire Redfield (implying that an important subplot happened offscreen and needs to be explored).

@@markcobuzzi826 Fair point. The 1st game managed to address the opposite character's existence better, even if Becca and Barry are thrown out the window in their own ways

They cared so much about realism for the remake of resi 2 citing "spiders are unrealistic" Only to then go on and have honest to god vampires, werewolvers and posessed dolls in resident evil village. Wtf the audacity. If anything gigantism in animals being experimented with a virus is the more plausible of the 2 scenarios. In resident evil 3 they even have jill lift up a cannon 3 times her size and that's not goofy and absurd? Ok.

@@KneeCapHill Dude I was thinking the exact same shit watching this. First off, in RE7 it isn't even explained to you Ethan is a mold person, which btw how realistic, mold people, and you get your hand cut off and comically stapled back on, stabbed multiple times, you have your legs fucked up by a gigantic mold creature, and you're fine. Just put some kale juice in a bottle on it and you're all good. Village does the same shit but turns it up to 11 with vampires, werewolves, metal benders, literal living dolls, and more of Ethan getting horrendously mutilated over and over with him just rubbing some whole foods brand organic herbal medicine on his severed hand to reattach it BEFORE you find out he's a mold person. And I like how Ivy isn't realistic, a plant, but a mold that stores people's consciousness like a hard drive is perfectly reasonable. Also you finally find out Ethan is mold man, after he DIES, just for him to resurrect like our lord and savior to DIE again in a contrived self sacrifice plot to try and redeem him as a character cause no one liked him. Resident Evil is like 2 steps away from being in the Dragon Ball universe at this point and they wanna justify cutting shit for 'realism' my hairy cooter.

@@asddsdsssd it's so fucking hard to find other kings with the objectively right opinion online these days. I swear it's always 1 v all when I enter a discussiom about modern videogames

@@KneeCapHill We should start a cult, only big brained, distinguished, well endowed men like ourselves can be the arbiter of what is good and what isn't in games. We'll put those Fanatic Angry Gamer Stans in their rightful place in the hierarchy, they're an ANT BENEATH MY BOOT.

@@asddsdsssd used to be like this

We need a bundle for next gen called "Raccoon City Collection" that would come with re2r and re3r and fix the problems with both and add most if not all of the missing content in one way or another.

@@Dav-zy1dw Capcom is too stupid and lazy

@@Dav-zy1dw Yeah, lets pay twice for the game they should have gave us in first place :D

Fingers crossed for that

@@greatestnitemare6626 alone in the dark the new nightmare another ps1 game that was better than re2 remake in terms of scenarios where u can call ur partner whenever u want to get puzzle hints or where to go next the game also isn't short for ur first time cause of hard puzzles and the keys dont tell u where to go next

DC actually tries to fit into the timeline unlike remake and kept Claire"s original voice actress.

yeah. Capcom made a mistake putting that guy in charge of RE2make. it's almost totally irrelevant what he personally likes, but now the world is limited by HIS personal preferences.

to further illustrate, I don't care AT ALL about mercenaries mode. but i were put in charge of remaking re2, I'd get a shit ton of feedback about problems and desires from fans, figure out what made it special, and i'd add the best mercenaries mode ever. because that would be my job.

@@westingtyler1 For a game that finally proved the classic game design can fit the modern mechanics, including a fixed camera mode to appeal to classic fans and a mercenaries mode to appeal to the action fans could've made this so much better on both sides.

"Why'd you throw out my meatloaf?" "Because I didn't like it."

That part genuinely made me angry.

Plot twist, Leon wanted the driver to give up his burgers, but the driver wasn't gonna take shit from Leon

Like, she doesn't even care if a random zombie will eat her daughter alive lol

That would’ve been great, but they’ve turned her into a strong empowered woman don’t ya know- being a scientist in charge of genetic research wasn’t enough these days.

@@Sonicstillpoint83 i know you're trying to make an unfunny joke through your sexist perspective of "modern women", but there's nothing about a woman being strong or empowered by child neglect/abuse. nice try though.

At the very least, I feel that the G2/G3 and G4/Super Tyrant fights should have respectively been attached to First/Second Runs instead, with a few cutscenes being altered accordingly. Reducing the severity in which Mr. X gets mauled by Birkin in that one Claire cutscene could also patch the remaining plot holes suggested. That way, the alternate scenarios could more coherently play out like this at one point... *Leon -> Claire* After Claire defeats G3 with Annette’s help, Claire sees Annette fall over apparently close to death. She tells Claire to leave her and give Sherry the G-Virus vaccine. When Claire gives Sherry the vaccine and gets ready to escort her, Mr. X comes crashing down in between them. He pursues Sherry to salvage the G-Virus sample she carried with her. Claire distracts Mr. X by presenting Sherry’s locket and lures the Tyrant away, while Sherry can run away in the opposite direction. While fleeing from Mr. X, Claire calls Leon and tells him to go pick up Sherry. From then on, Mr. X gets caught in the fiery explosion and fights Claire as a Super Tyrant. Meanwhile, Leon has his confrontation with Ada Wong. Ada then gets shot by Annette, who still had that last bit of resolve left and is accompanied by Sherry. After seeing both Ada falling and Annette collapsing, Leon can only go up to Sherry and promise to get her out alive, no matter what. From then on, Leon escorts Sherry and has to battle G4 with the Gatling gun. Later on, Ada is confirmed to still be alive, when Claire gets a rocket launcher from her. *Claire -> Leon* Pretty much plays out like the Claire and Leon scenarios we do get in the actual remake. But this time, Ada Wong will confront Leon on the path where Mr. X appears. When the Tyrant attacks the pair, Ada manages to shoot the Tyrant’s face and make it stumble back into a fiery explosion, but not before getting slammed against a wall. The wounded Ada tells Leon that the place is about to blow and he has to get out of here. Leon reluctantly goes on ahead, but then fights the Super Tyrant and hears Ada dropping the rocket launcher for him. Also, in Leon’s cutscene after beating G3, Annette will still have enough vitality left to part ways with Leon. It is implied that is how she meets up with Claire and Sherry in their own small room, during Claire’s First Run, before dying.

@@markcobuzzi826 I'm pretty sure in Leon A Claire B Leon never meets Sherry until he gets on the train

@@cerealtester3908 I was not following the original RE2 exactly, just giving an example of how the RE2 Remake could have offered its own alternate narrative to maintain some variety and stay more internally consistent.

@@markcobuzzi826 Ohh ok... Kinda wish they brought back the zapping feature

Queen-Roger If they were to do that, have it in the Leon A/Claire B scenarios as to not remove the original story experience. Not to mention that CA/LB is the canon storyline.

I agree that Claire and Leon's interactions were very weak in remake. They felt like much more self contained stories, and the other character basically didn't matter. Leon's reaction to meeting Sherry at the end is "....Okay". It still has managed to become my all time favorite in the series. Besides those interactions, Capcom did a fantastic job on it.

One part in particular they could have really sold the "zapping" mechanic would have been in the weapons locker room where the keypad was missing two keys. The easy solution would have been to only give one key to the first character to force the player to choose which items to get, then let the second character have the second missing key to unlock the remaining lockers and get what the first character had to leave behind. Instead both characters get both keys, which makes no sense as that would mean the first character would have had to remove the keys and re-hide them for the second character to find. Not exactly a move someone trying to work with the other person to survive would do, unless there was an unseen third character running around and resetting all of the puzzles and rebuilding set pieces like those that get wrecked in the Birkin encounters. They could have had it all easily explained as the second character was running a few minutes behind the first character and changed up some of the puzzles and key item locations to reflect this, and it seemed like they were going to do that as both characters do have access to certain key items the other doesn't, but those differences didn't amount to much in the end except access to some slightly different rooms that turned out to be optional.

I agree. I think that's my main irk with the remake. They could have expanded so much with the A/B scenario. Added monsters and the importance of leaving resources behind for each other. And of course expanding on their relationship. The remake relationship with Leon and Claire made no sense, they met once and were like BFFs by the end? What? And it retcons Leon and Sherry's relationship in future installments. They should have split up the RPD where Leon and Claire were restricted to some areas so they can still interact but couldn't meet. And would have to enter the nest at two different locations.

These were the seven ideas I came up with, for how the remake could have still included a zapping system, while keeping its other gameplay changes intact, if anyone would like to read through them below... *1.) Obviously have the Marvin zombie be either alive or already dead.* On top of that, the RE2 Remake could have also had Second Run remember the exact location of Marvin's corpse if you did kill him in First Run. *2.) If Second Run began from the same save file as your finished First Run, rather than being started from scratch, then it also could have been relatively simple to add an equivalent to the B4F Culture Experiment Room.* Once your ID wristband reaches a certain level, then you could have Leon and Claire log in their fingerprints, both of which can be needed to open up a separate item room during Second Run. *3.) Instead of the SMG and hip pouch, I was thinking that you could open up a compartment of Chris' desk, which contains his lighter and S.T.A.R.S. knife, the exact same ones he used in RE1 Remake.* As in the RE1 Remake, his knife cannot be used as a defensive subweapon, unlike the RE2 Remake's disposable daggers and unlockable infinite knife. But it is just as unbreakable as the infinite knife. It possesses greater damage and range, despite also being heavier and slower to swing than the other two knives. As for his lighter, it can be used to slowly burn giant spider webs and downed Ivies one at a time, as an alternative to incendiary weapons. If one wanted, there could even be some candles or fireplaces you can light with it, to reveal hints on how to access secret optional items. Because these two are personal items of Chris and would have greater story significance, I think it would make sense for items like those to not respawn in Second Run, if picked up in First Run. *4.) Bring in the anti-B.O.W. gas mechanic from the original.* It could weaken monsters in the short term, but in the long term, it could enable the Ivies to spew toxic clouds when shot or even burned (as a possible counterbalance to you using the lighter to finish them off, instead of the flamethrower or grenade launcher from a distance). Plus, because the "Evolved Lickers" in the original came off less as a unique separate enemy type and more as another duplicate enemy with altered stats, I was thinking that a stand-in for them could also result from the gas sprinklers. On a separate note, I find it odd that the gas does not appear at all in the campaign, seeing how the RE2 Remake still found ways to repurpose the hip pouches, SMG, window boarding, Brad Vickers Easter egg, removal of Plant 43 vines, etc. The closest thing we got to that was the poison zombies in the separate Ghost Survivors mode and the file explaining them in “No Time to Mourn”. *5.) Expand on the alligator, to both do to it what RE1 Remake did to the Mother Neptune and also make it much more worthwhile as a zapping opportunity.* Perhaps Leon could just manage to reach a safe enclosed area and drive off the alligator, when he first encounters it with Ada. Chronologically afterwards, either Leon or Claire will be able to encounter the gator, which has made a labyrinthian section of the sewers into its den. Similarly to Oscar the zombie elephant from Resident Evil Outbreak File 2, the alligator will patrol that section, which you will be forced to go into and out of multiple times. You can not only choose to stagger the alligator enough times with your firepower (causing it to retreat until Second Run) or lure it into biting a giant gas pipe (so you instantly kill it and it cannot even menace the second character), but also just keep running and hiding from it completely so you have a third option. Plus, I think you should need to traverse a long distance in the alligator's den to reach the flammable gas pipes, while it is hunting you, and be able to permanently botch your attempt if you let the gator finish biting through the pipes. That way, even if you know the trick, it is still not easy to kill the alligator with just one bullet, there is still some challenge in pulling it off. My main drawback with the original RE2 is that, once I saw the fuel canister, it made the fight even easier than my time confronting the alligator in RE2 Remake, and I did not even know you could repel it by simply shooting it enough times. *6 and 7.) Allow Ada Wong or Claire Redfield to influence the other's trek through the sewers, depending on which character you choose for your First Run.* In Leon's First Run for example, Ada Wong has the option to flip a switch on some gate controls in the water treatment plant, creating an alternate branching path for Claire, when she is initially entering the sewers from the orphanage basement. If you chose Claire as your First Run character, and Ada's trek is happening chronologically afterwards, the maybe Claire could play around with a crane to move certain large objects around, influencing how Ada will have to navigate her unique section during Leon's Second Run.

@Nameless King Excuse me? Was Leon B (canon one btw) scenario not working on your copy?

Watch "warytherook's" amazing RE2 Remake video which does an amazing job dissecting why it's GARBAGE

Yeah, if this was destined to have only two scenarios, they at least could make them Claire A and Leon B

@@steelbear2063 yeah what they could have done was a mix of both. Just have Clair A as part 1 and Leon B as part 2. Thus having one conclusive ending. They didnt need 4 total scenarios if they really couldn't do it. But ATLEAST treat Clair A and Leon B as one complete playthrough.

So, a bit of context. They WERE an afterthought. If you read articles c. 2018, the producers openly stated that they streamlined the system to have single, unified stories for Claire and Leon that could be considered canon for later games and take away any confusion as to what really happened. I honestly wish they stuck to their guns on this. They pivoted following the negative reaction to this, but it's obviously rushed; I always felt like RE:2's implementation of this does more harm than good. As it stands, we just got multiple scenarios that are impossible to fit together since certain setpieces and puzzles are repeated across scenarios.

The point of the A/B scenarios was to give the player more content. Not to be canon, just to be fun; RE has always been loose with the story.

​​@@juniperburton7693it did not give more content💀 you just do the same, but with another character.

They eventually turned RE games to something like Silent Hill but in a stupid way

Eh, I'm glad they're gone. Giant spiders are dumb and would be beyond terrifying with that level graphics. Removing the crows was kinda dumb tho... I don't see why Ivys at least kind of survived through the plant zombies but they look radically different

And the old fans smoke copium... Can't you guys be happy that an ancient mossy old game has been remaked or better yet bringing the whole franchise back on its feet again!!! Whrere areas you guys has been only shitting on the franchise since RE4. You guys can't even do 10% of their work so shit stop crying or just don't play the game!!! Fucking whiney bastards...

Fuck the spiders. They can stay in Hell where I left them in the previous games Burn for eternity lol

actually they released a comic a long time ago about jill killing a werewolf in outskirts of raccoon city and finding out to be a human being so barry told her there r crazy people out there but jill hesitates on remembering what she saw

They redesigned Ivy into a Regenerador ripoff. It seems that a lot of original enemy designs in the series since the first Revelations game are based on Regenerador (big feauterless figures with fangs or claws and long limbs that move in a weird creepy way).

@@raidoukuzonoha883 i think he meant by unfinished is the scrapped content of the b side, the videos tells us that the devs cut some of the scenario in b side

Never played the original but from what I've seen I completely agree

@@ArtHazard Ivy and regenerators are completely different 😭

Boo hoo crows that featured in one room was cut..