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Responding to claims about names of God 

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@DarkBlood666
@DarkBlood666 4 месяца назад
I learn something everytime I click on a Dan clip.
@TomCarlson
@TomCarlson 4 месяца назад
“I yam what I yam” - Popeye
@stefanyalpoesy42
@stefanyalpoesy42 4 месяца назад
"El Shaddai" perhaps meaning "God of the Breasts", ROTFLMAO!!! I'm reminded of Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones bemoaning the absence of "A God of Tits and Wine". 🤣
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 4 месяца назад
Artemis/Diana and Dionysus/Bacchus would like to enter the chat. 😁😉
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 4 месяца назад
@@johnburn8031 Ashera would like to scratch out their eyes 😁😇
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 4 месяца назад
@@KaiHenningsen she's probably jealous, just like her hubby! 😁😉
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 4 месяца назад
​​@@KaiHenningsenWhy? Religious practices dedicated to the wife of ʾĪl within antiquity were similar to that of Dionysos and Artemis; particularly in her form as the "Goddess of Nature" and "Mistress of Animals", and in stories that characterize her, such as the "Baal Cycle": it doesn't seem that she'd really have a problem with them whatsoever, at least from what I remember.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 4 месяца назад
@@Dice_roller Bet you're fun at parties!
@AMoniqueOcampo
@AMoniqueOcampo 4 месяца назад
I did an essay about the name of God for an epistemology class. Wish I knew who Dan was at the time!
@stephenleblanc4677
@stephenleblanc4677 4 месяца назад
Yahweh, Yahweh, bo-bahweh, Banana-fana fo-ahweh Fee-fi-mo-ahweh Yahweh
@stefanyalpoesy42
@stefanyalpoesy42 4 месяца назад
ROTFLMAO!!!! 😆🤣💖 You win the Internet today!!
@RebeccaRaven
@RebeccaRaven 4 месяца назад
St Athanasius said it best: "The whole damned thing is incomprehensible." (paraphrased)
@stefanyalpoesy42
@stefanyalpoesy42 4 месяца назад
Tertullian: "I believe, because it is absurd."
@bman5257
@bman5257 4 месяца назад
You’re wrong. That was Dorothy Sayers summation of the Athanasian Creed. Which wasn’t written by St. Athanasius. The joke was how the creed states that each of the Persons possesses the attribute of being incomprehensible, that is, not being able to be fully comprehended by a finite mind, and so her joke was his whole creed was incomprehensible as in the doctrine was hard to understand.
@bman5257
@bman5257 4 месяца назад
@@stefanyalpoesy42The full quote is: “ Latin text: et mortuus est dei filius: [prorsus] credibile est, quia ineptum est. et sepultus resurrexit: certum est, quia impossibile. English translation: and the Son of God died; it is [utterly] credible, because it is unfitting; and he was buried and rose again; it is certain, because it is impossible.” He isn’t saying the Bible or the Trinity is absurd. He’s saying that the Incarnation and Resurrection are so astounding and so contrary to our normal experience he finds it more credible than something made up. “Truth is stranger than fiction” is the sort of vein Tertullian was going for. Or “fiction has to make sense” to quote an attributed quote to Tom Clancy
@JopJio
@JopJio 4 месяца назад
El shaddai= God of the breasts. this will make fundamentals angry😂
@adamantiumbullet9215
@adamantiumbullet9215 3 месяца назад
(.) (.) = worthy of worship.
@daniellamcgee4251
@daniellamcgee4251 3 месяца назад
As some might say, the idea of a breast God might 'get on their tits'.
@JimJones-kj8jk
@JimJones-kj8jk 4 месяца назад
I hate these AI generated videos. Badly researched, robotic voice, and uninspired AI art.
@Jd-808
@Jd-808 4 месяца назад
AI voice, AI art, AI “research”
@mrq6270
@mrq6270 4 месяца назад
Some of the AI pronunciations are hilarious though. And I like how when they don’t know the correct pronunciation they’ll try a different pronunciation each time they use the word.
@stephenleblanc4677
@stephenleblanc4677 4 месяца назад
I'm pretty sure Dan is a real person.
@creamwobbly
@creamwobbly 4 месяца назад
AI craptions…
@WoefulMinion
@WoefulMinion 4 месяца назад
@@stephenleblanc4677 Addressing an AI-generated video....
@timothyshaw5498
@timothyshaw5498 4 месяца назад
Boobie god!?!? So sorry, my inner twelve year old just couldn’t behave… 😂
@Dalekzilla
@Dalekzilla 4 месяца назад
Dan is a national treasure. Always learn fascinating things from him.
@theoutspokenhumanist
@theoutspokenhumanist 4 месяца назад
Videos like the one reviewed by Dan seem to be so authoritative and yet are filled with error. An excellent lesson in the pitfalls of the internet. If you value truth and facts, always check and double check anything you are told on the world wide interweb. "Google competently and think critically".
@Satans_lil_helper
@Satans_lil_helper 4 месяца назад
🖖🏾
@sdlorah6450
@sdlorah6450 4 месяца назад
Unbelieving scholars who speak as though authoritative concerning the Bible are one of the big pitfalls of the internet. They often wrest the scriptures, leading people astray, as forewarned in 2 Peter 3:15-17.
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 4 месяца назад
@@sdlorah6450 He's a believer though. You didn't even do the most basic of homework before making this comment, but I'm entirely unsurprised
@WoefulMinion
@WoefulMinion 4 месяца назад
@@getasimbe Not to mention that Dan provides his references and often suggests books so you can do your own exploration.
@theoutspokenhumanist
@theoutspokenhumanist 4 месяца назад
@@sdlorah6450 If that is true, you will, no doubt, be able to provide examples. To make it easy, let's stick with this channel. Please give me 3 examples of Dan being wrong abut scripture. Or even just 1. Belief is not only irrelevant to genuine scholars, it can be a real problem as it leads to bias. Biblical scholars focus on what may be ascertained from the text alone, usually in its earliest form and then with reference to other archaic documents and what we know of the contemporary culture and political make up of the period.. They therefore stay well clear of religious interpretation and dogma.
@Exjewatlarge
@Exjewatlarge 4 месяца назад
Almost as if people aren’t actually interested in understanding the text on its own terms and they’re just projecting their own beliefs and agenda… 🐸🍵
@tussk.
@tussk. 4 месяца назад
Our father, who art in heaven Harold be thy name.
@youknowmyname5695
@youknowmyname5695 4 месяца назад
God's name is Harold 🤣
@daniellamcgee4251
@daniellamcgee4251 3 месяца назад
That's what I heard, and believed when I was about 5 years old. Harold is my much older brother's name. He confirmed he was God, with an evil laugh. Now I come to think about it, maybe that's why me being a Christian was a failed endeavour. I didn't want my teddies sacrificed to God.
@mitchkohl1
@mitchkohl1 4 месяца назад
Thank you for all you do! I have watched all of your videos and it has really helped me! Thank you Dan!
@hardwork8395
@hardwork8395 4 месяца назад
A similar naming anomaly happens with Moses’ father-in-law. He’s called Reuel in one place and then Jethro in another.
@TheFranchiseCA
@TheFranchiseCA 4 месяца назад
Religious figures having multiple names is a recurring trope even outside the Abrahamic tradition; Indian, Greek, Mesoamerican, and other mythologies regularly have characters known by multiple names. For Jethro/Reuel, there's five other names traditionally associated with the man, too.
@JopJio
@JopJio 4 месяца назад
This is just a contradiction
@TheFranchiseCA
@TheFranchiseCA 4 месяца назад
@@JopJio One of my friends is both Rachel and Ai Ling, depending on language and social context. The same thing happens with online identity; I'm using a name I've had for 25 years, though it's not my legal name.
@JopJio
@JopJio 4 месяца назад
​@@TheFranchiseCA nowhere it says Moses father in law has 2 names and no verse uses both names together. So the verses contradict each other.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 4 месяца назад
Rigid naming is actually a modern thing. I think my personal favorite example for this is the second of Japan's "three unifiers", Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Birthname: Hiyoshimaru, adult name: Kinoshita Tokichiro, first samurai name: Hashiba Hideyoshi, adopted noble name: Konoe Hideyoshi, final name bestowed by imperial decree: Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Ancient people either changed names all the time or had multiple ones in their lifetime, especially if they're aristocrats.
@creamwobbly
@creamwobbly 4 месяца назад
The caption at 3:22 - ‘God's omnipodence’? So like, he owns everyone's feet? Sounds like an appeal to Bokononism to me 🧐
@Jneedstostopobssessing
@Jneedstostopobssessing 4 месяца назад
I immediately thought that he's all feet, so probably something out of an apocalyptic vision. Not sure if it's better than being covered in eyes, to be honest.
@RaytheonTechnologies_Official
@RaytheonTechnologies_Official Месяц назад
I don't think an ombipodent God would *be* all feet, I think they would *have* an infinite amount of feet. But hey, that's just my personal foot/god theology.
@Jneedstostopobssessing
@Jneedstostopobssessing Месяц назад
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Official I don't think I have met anybody with theopodological ideology 😁
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 4 месяца назад
Absolutely love learning from Dan. It really helps with theology.
@kmountain5533
@kmountain5533 3 месяца назад
“Some scholars” is not definitive. So everyone just dismiss the “some scholars” when you hear it.
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 4 месяца назад
Every time I hear that particular AI generated voice I know I'm about to hear some bullshit....
@lyndafjellman3315
@lyndafjellman3315 4 месяца назад
I don't listen to any videos that use that "narrator". Too many are poor.
@PIA-tj5hc
@PIA-tj5hc 4 месяца назад
My Saturday morning class thank you
@munbruk
@munbruk 4 месяца назад
A Big manipulation occurred around the name of God. EL is the god of Abraham and the creator of the heavens and earth. The fact that El is a Canaanite god name is not a problem. People did know EL since Noah. EL means the god which makes sense because he is the only god. El Elyon = الله العلي in arabic. When I heard Elohim for the first time, it struck me since it is similar to to "Allahoma" اللهم in the Quran which is how people call God directly.
@munbruk
@munbruk 4 месяца назад
So Moses went to his people and Pharaoh and told them " I am who I am sent me to tell you..."
@neomagnon
@neomagnon 3 месяца назад
💥 God said, "I am who I am!" God has no name, like the names given to people. All the names attributed to God are descriptions of His "God-ness", or simply means God - Allah, Adonai, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Abbah, El Roi, Lord, Deo, Deus, Almighty, the Most High, etc. In Hinduism, they call God Krishna (all-attractive) Rama (pleasing, delightful), Vishnu (all-pervasive), Govinda (protector of cows and devotees), Chaitanya (golden avatar), etc. These names are descriptions of His qualities, pastimes, glories, forms, attributes, power, etc. All names that pertains to the Supreme God is potent and pure. It doesn't matter what names of God we call, chant or worship. God accepts them all. An ordinary person can have many names - John Smith, Mr. Smith, John, Johnny, Daddy, Sweetheart, Honey, Mr. Lover boy, Darling, Senator, Boss, some secret names, pseudonyms, aliases, depending on his qualities, status or relationship with people. The same sun seen in the sky is called by hundreds of different names across the globe. But no one fights whose name is the best or true. There are no secret names of God that cannot be known or uttered. The names of God has the potency to purify one's heart no matter what the intention of a person in saying, chanting, praying, calling, up singing, uttering it - sincerely, lovingly, indifferently, jokingly, mockingly, etc. God's names are like potent medicine that can cure someone when given by a doctor and taken, regardless of reasons. It is potent in itself. "Our help is in the names of the Lord." "Hallowed be thy name." "Oh Lord, save me by thy name."
@therongjr
@therongjr 3 месяца назад
Feels like some good old-fashioned syncretism to me: trying to conflate the Moabite YHWH with the Canaanite El.
@KyIeMcCIeIIan
@KyIeMcCIeIIan 4 месяца назад
The oldest written name of God is not spelled with the tetragrammaton form, but spelled as "YVH". It was found engraved on a lead curse/oath tablet along with the words "CURSED BY YVH" over and over in a dig in Israel. It's entirely possible he was cursed because he didn't know how to properly spell the tetragrammaton, but it's also possible God went by a "triagrammaton" spelling in earlier times. I am not %100 certain if God ever revealed himself to other nations prior to Israel, but when you come across a god like the Egyptian Amun who's main characteristics were "being invisible and everywhere" in stark contrast to other gods I can't help but have suspicions. The Greeks identified Amun with Zeus, who was loosely some sort of sky father that required animal sacrifice as atonement. I believe it most appropriate to address him with the name he presents himself with in the MODERN day and age. To us, Dan's right his name is Yahweh which means "I am that I am" as in "I am what I am" because only he exists where he is, so only he can give testimony on his behalf. His name is whatever he wants it to be because who else is with him to name him? The Muslims have given him 99 names and likely more, it's fun to read about those, too. The names they give him clearly imply that he gives them divine visitations as he sees fits like he does to us!
@LewWhite10
@LewWhite10 Месяц назад
The root ALAH H426, alef-lamed-hay, with the suffix shown as ALAH+IM has to be taken in context. It can be plural, but as Yahuah is ONE, the normally plural suffix refers to His qualitative size, power, and majesty, not His quantity. In a similar way, BEHEMAH (beast) can be expressed as BEHEMOTH (more than one). But, when expressed qualitatively, one BEHEMOTH is of great size and strength. Context matters.
@inwyrdn3691
@inwyrdn3691 4 месяца назад
Exodus 34:14 - God's name is Jealous. 1 Corinthians 13:4 - Love is not jealous. God = Jealous. Love =/= Jeaolus. God =/= Love. Always a fun conversation starter when talking about the names of God.
@getasimbe
@getasimbe 4 месяца назад
Also, God is jealous. But God is also perfect. Therefore, jealousy is at least a part of perfection, if not a key part. We should all strive to be jealous!
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube 4 месяца назад
In a history of Christianity class I took once, I could have sworn that we were taught about an Assyrian Pantheon of EL and how he had 12 sons, a common motif, and that one of them, if I remember right, was called Yahweh. And Yahweh had a wife, Ashera. Am I completely remembering that wrong?
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 4 месяца назад
No. This video is about the name(s) of god in the Bible. What you remember is the historical context the names come from. Probably Dan has specific videos about that. Dr Sledge at the Esoterica channel has a great video on the origins of Yahweh.
@InquisitiveBible
@InquisitiveBible 4 месяца назад
You’re close. In the pantheon of Ugarit (just north of Canaan) they had a pantheon with El and his wife Asherah as well as seventy children who were the other gods and goddesses.
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 4 месяца назад
​​@@GrannyGooseOnRU-vid12 and 40 can also be found in preseding religions. If I remember correctly there was a religion with 12 gods in the divine council (maybe even in Yahwism). That may have caused your confusion.
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube
@GrannyGooseOnYouTube 4 месяца назад
@@KasperKatje thank you. All of these replies have been super helpful.🙂
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 4 месяца назад
The Explicit Name of God is either the Tetragrammaton or the Name Ado-nai.
@bryonstevenson1084
@bryonstevenson1084 3 месяца назад
Like who
@davidwebster9788
@davidwebster9788 4 месяца назад
Using "themselves" is confusing since in the context of this discusion "God" as a plural might make some sense.
@ShaneLawrence-ri6ph
@ShaneLawrence-ri6ph 4 месяца назад
I love your shirt 👕🎽 God bless you Dan
@Marhsss
@Marhsss 4 месяца назад
Could you please speak on GOD appearing in different names and what that means.
@hardwork8395
@hardwork8395 4 месяца назад
I agree. I think the different textual traditions that get redacted are fascinating to tease out.
@JimmyBond-rg6gt
@JimmyBond-rg6gt 4 месяца назад
@@hardwork8395 I agree as well. What about "Allah"? Isn't that worth looking into at length, considering the entire picture? The Big Kahuna? Jesus IS in the Quran, after all. Any SERIOUS scholar would explore this FACT. Wouldn't they? Abraham is in the Quran. Moses. Mary...the mother of Jesus. The "immaculate conception". How many church-going people pick up a good English translation of the Quran? Have you? If Jesus implored his followers to seek the TRUTH, then is it WISE to ignore an OBVIOUS fact? I like Dan. I like his even-handed, cool, intellectual, scholarly approach to his subject. God is a SUBJECT. GOD is SUBJECTIVE. God is not an OBJECT. God is ABOVE all objects. I am simply a flash in a pan. A drop in a larger ocean. A collection of words. A voice. I hope that Dan reads this comment. I know that he is a serious person. Isn't he? May I suggest reading the work of Thomas Merton? Another serious thinker. If you want to play the Truth game...begin with yourself. Start here. You will die. When? God only knows. You are free to try to test God. See what happens. God is ALWAYS in control. Always. Men and women are idiots. They love politics. Seriously? Politics? WHY? They love group sports, rodeos, gun-racks, sex-toys, indoor plumbing, you name it. Do you enjoy these things as well? Then I guess it really is about God's Pleasure. God is providing you with whatever "good time" you are enjoying. This world was not built to last forever. Enjoy the final moments. Jesus never died. Jesus appeared to die. You cannot kill Jesus. Jesus is the RESURRECTION...not the crucifixion. The crucifixion is the symbolic means to the END. God CREATED all symbols. God is ABOVE all your symbols. God Almighty...Allah...if you DARE...doesn't need symbols. You and I need symbols. We are WEAK like that. Quit shooting for a "symbolic" sacrifice. God does not need your "sacrifice" God requires your OBEDIENCE. The wise OBEY God. The foolish DENY God. The wicked DEFY God. God will WIN, either way. Hide and watch. vaya con Papaya.
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 4 месяца назад
It shows the evolution of religion and of the gods. It shows the transformation from polytheism to henotheism to early monotheism.
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 4 месяца назад
@@Texasmade74 you can laugh all you want but how would you call the clear struggle to end the worship of other gods like Asherah and Baal (as written in the bible)?
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 3 месяца назад
@@Texasmade74 see, that is your false assumption. I don't believe the bible is historically accurate and I read extrabiblical sources. 🤡👋
@hughb5092
@hughb5092 4 месяца назад
Dan!!!! Where have you been for the last 40 years? 🤣
@geodad4782
@geodad4782 4 месяца назад
When you say Adonai, the caption says YWVH. Are they the same?
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 4 месяца назад
No, it's just out of respect for people who view the tetragrammaton as not being pronounced and instead having another alias spoken.
@geodad4782
@geodad4782 3 месяца назад
@@Dice_roller So they don’t mention the same thing?
@doncamp1150
@doncamp1150 3 месяца назад
I appreciate your discussion of the names of God. I have one concern, however, and that is using the etymology or actually in the case of El Shaddai the possible etymology of the word to determine the meaning. In the case of El Shaddai, it is clearly a name or description of El but beyond that we should consider what seems to be the meaning in the passage we find it. In Genesis it is used always to indicate power or powerful and able to do what he declares. So, God Almighty is not a bad translation. To say God of the mountains, as some suggest, is to settle for a metaphor which might have had a meaning we 4000 years later do not connect with. It depends on what mountains mean to us and what mountains meant to Abrham, et al. I for one love the mountains and find them majestic and a powerful presence dominating the landscape. But others may find mountains frightening and intimidating. Which would be the right way to take El Shaddai? Hey, maybe both.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus 4 месяца назад
"Omnipodence"? All footed?
@josefpollard6271
@josefpollard6271 3 месяца назад
*sigh* this is such an important topic. Yeshu focus's his/her teaching on the Lord to be a close intimate relationship. Instructs us to be as private as possible when praying. The personal name for God is of excruciating importance. And each individual person has their own expression for that experience. God is timeless: the same yesterday ,today and tomorrow. From a Christian stand point; Yeshu said that he/she and the father are one. He accuses the father of the Jews to be a nefarious character (John 8:44); that father being Abram. Yeshu also says that he is before Abraham (John 8:58). So we know for a fact that the heavenly Father that Jeshu was speaking of was none other than the God of Abraham. A four lettered word that the Jews have no room for.
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 4 месяца назад
Anyone with a name was given a name, a created being. God is unnamable since He's not a created being. This is the easiest way to understand who the false Elohim is in the OT, NT and Quran.
@Dragonart666
@Dragonart666 3 месяца назад
I'm not sure, that the greek translation in the LXX "pantokrator" for "El Shadday" meand "almighty". The notion of an almighty god is a postbiblical philosophical and theological thought. The meaning of pantokrator is rather political, referring to sovereignty in the political sense, as a sovereign god over any other world ruler. The pantokrator above all is a polemical response to the cult of the autokrator, the emperor who believed himself to be the owner of the world. It must be taken into account that in the Septuagint not only "El Shadday" is translated as "pantokrator", but also "Yhwh Sebaot". In the NT God pantokrator is the one who truly rules the world, and not Satan. It has nothing to do with post-biblical philosophical and theological concepts of an all-powerful god.
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia 4 месяца назад
Thank you.
@lordofuzkulak8308
@lordofuzkulak8308 4 месяца назад
1:28 - Popeye the Sailorman? 😜
@KJDogluv
@KJDogluv 4 месяца назад
That’s an AI generated video
@magepunk2376
@magepunk2376 4 месяца назад
Which contains misinformation.
@markngwa8386
@markngwa8386 3 месяца назад
What if YHWH is the embodying deity of the Elohim? What do you think, Dan?
@wordscapes5690
@wordscapes5690 3 месяца назад
I don’t think it matters. Mythological characters are often mispronounced.
@moontrack4625
@moontrack4625 4 месяца назад
I follow a RU-vid person who ministers and always calls Jesus, Yashuah ? Where did that name come from? I really like so much this man teaches about gardening, but the calling of Jesus always relaxed with Yasjuah?
@moontrack4625
@moontrack4625 4 месяца назад
@@2besavedcom-7 - so it’s just made-up? People making connections in the text that were never there.
@dumitshabs8719
@dumitshabs8719 3 месяца назад
Why pick fight about Jesus name or real pronunciation, he is a big boy, he can defend himself. I suggest you worry about the origins of your name, maybe you are named after a god. If so are you going to beat your parents for naming you after a Greek god. People with faith smaller than the mustard seed engages in meaningless arguments over things they don’t understand.
@moontrack4625
@moontrack4625 3 месяца назад
@@dumitshabs8719 - says so much that you think it’s picking a fight.
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 4 месяца назад
The second issue of Abram and the authors of Genesis. When we see these foundational stories of the Bible we must ask the question why is the author motivated to include this source material and how is he redacting the material into the text. We begin with Genesis 1, which appears to be a later creation story than Genesis 2-3. The claim is that Genesis 1 borrows from a much older Enuma Elis and while it is certainly true Enuma Elis is older, it appears to be a niche text in a fairly well dominated Babylon from the 9th century onward, the earliest writings might be 12th century. Moreover the Bible is using and older understand of the waters of the deep. So while the Bible is recognizing the style it’s cherry-picking other near-eastern traditions. This is only plausible if this occurred during Exile and redacted in the second temple. So let’s draw out what is going on in the story, Abram has a father and a lineage and this is >95% bunk. Ur was first established in 5450 BCE, collapsed for a millenium and was rebuilt. But here we get something because Abram travels from Ur to Haran, Ur’s sister city who have the same patron moon god. This is almost certainly the high god of Abram’s family and himself. Men of privilege would not tempt consternation by being impious to the City-State god. So that is one of Abram’s god. In fact during Ur III, there was an expansion of westward trade and a ritual elevation of Haran with a temple built to Suen. It’s likely they expanded trade into the S. Levant. So here I depart from the narrative and extend what I said in the previous post, after 2450 BCE Mari-Sumer is making a westward push and Eastern gods are appearing in the west ‘El being a semblance thereof. These are settler colonialist. There maybe a variety of reasons why they did this. Trade with Egypt, dyes from the coast, olive oil, wine, wool, etc and we have reason to believe around the 19th century BCE the Amorites and western Semetic speakers started settling into the Nile Delta from the region immediately south of the Upper-Middle Euphrates, between Ebla and Mari. But this is not one person at one time. So when we talk about Abram we have to ask the question why the story is eastward backward looking, as the story of Isaac and Jacob. The second thing is gods, Y-H. What Y-H? There is no evidence that such a god existed during this period in which apparent colonial outpost were built. At best we can say that some point around the late middle Bronze Age Bêt Lahmi was settled and this has some connection with Eblaite Ia. This argument is low likelihood. The stories might be connected to a far-off version of old Sumerian high gods via ‘El, but even the connection of ‘El with Elyon is now in dispute. I think that ‘El is so widespread in the literature that in different places there are variants. So let’s just argue there was figuratively Abram’s ‘El as a sojourner between the Euphrates and Egypt might find (in Egypt his name was Ptah and in Hurrian it was Teshub). And so the god identity is something hand waveringly a god of later people believed in. Something maybe the Northern kingdom had that the Yehudite scribes plucked apart and reused. The third thing is that Abram builds a shrine at Bethel, so why call it Bethel if the god was Yahu or Yahweh. The second problem Bethel is anachronistic. So is ur of Chaldeans. The sites name was Luz. Finally, where are the Yahu theophorics? If Abram was even associated with Yahu followers, where are the theophorics to Yahu. So we are left begging the question who was/were Abram(s)? What period are the travels depicting? Who were his/their god(s)? What about these older sources made them amiable to the authors?
@mikewriterson3829
@mikewriterson3829 4 месяца назад
Why would a storm deity be named after the verbal root “to be”?
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 4 месяца назад
He may have acquired traits from one source and a name from another.
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 3 месяца назад
It could also have come from the Arabic h-w-y, meaning "to blow". Since there is a theory Yahweh came from the south, Teman (Edomites), and was a vulcano/storm god. We all know the story of Exodus with god on the mountain and fire and smoke. Song of Deborah (Judg 5:4) יְ־הוָה בְּצֵאתְךָ מִשֵּׂעִיר בְּצַעְדְּךָ מִשְּׂדֵה אֱדוֹם רָעָשָׁה… "YHWH, when You came forth from Seir, advanced from the country of Edom, the earth trembled…" Song of Moses (Deut 33:2) יְ־הוָה מִסִּינַי בָּא וְזָרַח מִשֵּׂעִיר לָמוֹ הוֹפִיעַ מֵהַר פָּארָן וְאָתָה מֵרִבְבֹת קֹדֶשׁ⁠… "YHWH came from Sinai; He shone upon them from Seir; He appeared from Mount Paran, and approached from Ribeboth-kodesh…" Song of Habakkuk (Hab 3:3) אֱלוֹהַ מִתֵּימָן יָבוֹא וְקָדוֹשׁ מֵהַר פָּארָן סֶלָה… "God is coming from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran. Selah…."
@manbearpig3507
@manbearpig3507 4 месяца назад
would u put genesis 17 and exodus 6 in P source and genesis 15 and exodus 3 as non or pre P? Personally I think gen 15 and exodus 3:14-15 are E source
@treystevenson9872
@treystevenson9872 4 месяца назад
The K.J.T. lists Jesus Christ as all the following = ADVOCATE, 1St John 2:1; ALMIGHTY, Rev. 1:8; ALPHA, Rev. 1:8; ANOINTED,Acts 10:38; APOSTLE,Heb. 3:1; BREAD,J0hn 6:48, 50-51; CAPTAIN, Heb. 2:10; DAY STAR,2 Peter 1:19; FLESH,John 1:14; KING,John 18:36-37; Rev.19:16; LAMB,John 1:29, 36; LIFE, John 14:6; LIGHT,John 1:4, 7-9; 9:5; LION,Rev. 5:5; LORD,Rev. 19:16; MEDIATOR, 15 Tim. 2:5; OMEGA, Rev. 1:8; PRIEST,Heb. 3:1; 4:14; PROPHET,Deut. 18:15-18; John 1:21; Acts 3:22; REDEEMER,Isaiah 59:20; RIGHTEOUS, 1st John 2:1; ROCK, 1st Cor. 10:4; SALVATION,Luke 19:9; SAVIOUR,Luke 2:11; SEED, Gal. 3:16; SHEPHERD, Heb. 13:20; SON,Matt. 3:17; TRUTH, John 14:6; VOICE,John 5:25; WAY,John 14:6; WORD, John 1:1
@Knauchs
@Knauchs 3 месяца назад
Maybe it's a play on words denoting fertility, mountain and wilderness G-d, as in reference to plains and the mountains. Like, being in the "bosom of G-d" a place of abundance such as the, "fertile crescent," or a place of "milk and honey' like the Mesopotamian "pains between two rivers" to which, those plains are surrounded by the mountains. The Semitic ancient languages, and as I understand, a single "dot" can change the meaning of a phrase and the nuances can be misinterpreted, and a single word can have a poetic multiple meaning depending on context. The Greek, Latin and English language, as I know it, has grossly encroached on the Hebrew language. As for me, I don't try to translate/transliterate the sacred names. I leave them as El Shaddai, Elohim, I don't even bother trying to pronounce YHWH, I just say Adonai or Hashem. For me, I know G-d as, "Breath of Life," "The Living One," or "Source of All Things."
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 3 месяца назад
It could also have come from the Arabic h-w-y, meaning "to blow". Since there is a theory Yahweh came from the south, Teman (Edomites), and was a vulcano/storm god. We all know the story of Exodus with god on the mountain and fire and smoke. Song of Deborah (Judg 5:4) יְ־הוָה בְּצֵאתְךָ מִשֵּׂעִיר בְּצַעְדְּךָ מִשְּׂדֵה אֱדוֹם רָעָשָׁה… "YHWH, when You came forth from Seir, advanced from the country of Edom, the earth trembled…" Song of Moses (Deut 33:2) יְ־הוָה מִסִּינַי בָּא וְזָרַח מִשֵּׂעִיר לָמוֹ הוֹפִיעַ מֵהַר פָּארָן וְאָתָה מֵרִבְבֹת קֹדֶשׁ⁠… "YHWH came from Sinai; He shone upon them from Seir; He appeared from Mount Paran, and approached from Ribeboth-kodesh…" Song of Habakkuk (Hab 3:3) אֱלוֹהַ מִתֵּימָן יָבוֹא וְקָדוֹשׁ מֵהַר פָּארָן סֶלָה… "God is coming from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran. Selah…."
@Knauchs
@Knauchs 3 месяца назад
@@KasperKatje Interesting stuff. Love this channel and all the comments that ppl add in. It certainly provokes thought, and it encourages me to keep learning.
@Knauchs
@Knauchs 3 месяца назад
@@KasperKatje I think a lot of the names of G-d, denote breathe, or breathing, as in the word, or the spirit (G-d). Like in Genesis, "The Spirit of G-d hovered over the waters." Also, translated or denoting heat or hot vapor. Which is cool, cause I learned the other day that the "father of the Big Bang Theory" was the Belgian physicist and Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître. So, I was like oh so the "Spirit of G-d" was this state of quantum fluctuation before the inflation or expansion of the universe. Which, brings me to what you're talking about, If I understand you correctly. The (h-w-y) can also mean “to be”, “to happen”, “to come down." So, that brings me to the ideas of Law of Nature or imo "Word of G-d" "Spirit of G-d" etc. Which leads me to Proto-Semitic *haway- (“to be, to become”) and (later elided) Proto-Semitic *šahway- (“to cause to be, to make come, to level onto”) which is related to air, passion and their manifestations. And, in the Hebrew, 'and The Spirit of G-d' or ruach (roo'-akh) can mean wind, breath. Interesting, indeed.
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 3 месяца назад
@@Knauchs indeed. And even if we would know the exact etymology of a word, the meaning could have changed between tribes and languages. Let's say the first tribe used it to describe a real action to them like "god was the wind/storm that came down the mountain/vulcano". But the Israelites described and understood it in an abstracter way as "god came down from the heavens" and used the air/wind as "god breathed life into us", "he who made it happen". I didn't look into the details but that's what I just came up with after posting my previous reply. In other words: to know the root of a word doesn't tell us (enough) about what it possibly turned into.
@Knauchs
@Knauchs 3 месяца назад
@@KasperKatje I couldn't have said it any better. I'm learning everyday. Thanks for those tidbits. Love this stuff.
@Leoji67
@Leoji67 4 месяца назад
Great video!
@EdKolis
@EdKolis 4 месяца назад
Just curious, why do you pronounce the Tetragrammaton as Adonai? Isn't that a Jewish thing to do?
@avishevin1976
@avishevin1976 4 месяца назад
He was asked not to pronounce the Tetragrammaton by some Jewish viewers and he decided to go along because he's not a jerk and it doesn't hurt him any. He made a video about it.
@Prinsvdmerwe-gb4ly
@Prinsvdmerwe-gb4ly 24 дня назад
YHVH. God's name is YAHVAH and Jesus is YAHVAHSHUA.
@Saadyahu
@Saadyahu 4 месяца назад
What’s the Devine Name ?
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 4 месяца назад
The tetragrammaton.
@johnrichardson7629
@johnrichardson7629 4 месяца назад
Who kis this god person anyway?
@LeoYahu-x1x
@LeoYahu-x1x 14 дней назад
Repent for the reign of Yahuah draws near The living Mighty One of Israel, turn away from all your sins and stop your foolish talk, scripture says that every man will be held accountable for every idle word he says repent and call on The True Name of Yahuah Yahusha
@danielgibson8799
@danielgibson8799 4 месяца назад
5:01-5:08 Exodus (922 BCE) pre dates “homer” (655-630 BCE) by about 270-295 years. Genesis 1-36 (550 BCE) post dates “homer” by about 80-105 years. i don’t think the original authors of Exodus were psychic. P.S.: i am aware of Thomas Römer’s argument that Jeroboam l and jeroboam ll were conflated by DH. i don’t agree with it since it assumes that Exodus can’t mathematically be contemporary with Jeroboam l. That’s like his opinion, man.
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 3 месяца назад
The heck did any of that even mean?
@Mughicoeurl
@Mughicoeurl 4 месяца назад
If someone says "Jesus' real name was Yeshua", Dan says "bwa ha ha! Who cares how it was pronounced then, it's good enough for english speakers to just as Jesus"; but if someone says "it's good enough for english speakers to call YHWH Jehovah" Dan says "Nooooo! That's not how it was pronounced then!"
@zackzimmer7167
@zackzimmer7167 4 месяца назад
He’s appeasing a certain demographic.
@Set666Abominae
@Set666Abominae 4 месяца назад
Dan has repeatedly highlighted the roots of the name Jesus. You’re making it up if you simply think he handwaves things away in the name of how it’s pronounced now. Also, there’s considerably less of a tradition around the importance of how Jesus is pronounced compared to the vastly divergent ways in which the Tetragrammaton/its substitutes are verbalised.
@gagegentry7272
@gagegentry7272 3 месяца назад
Found the Yeshua worshipper 🤓
@Mughicoeurl
@Mughicoeurl 3 месяца назад
@gagegentry7272 I don't say yeshua, actually, but I think Jehovah sounds cooler than Yahweh, and when transliterated in the king James it's Jehovah; plus Adonai is problematic because it's cultural appropriation from pagan Adonis worshipers.
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 3 месяца назад
One is a transliteration of another transliteration within a separate language, while the other is a completely artificial, made-up name. They are not the same.
@Esoterrorized
@Esoterrorized 4 месяца назад
YHVH pronounced Yah Hah Vay. (This is per a much better "scholar).....Elohim means 'god and his children' basically.
@vmonk2
@vmonk2 4 месяца назад
We have no idea how it was originally pronounced. The last who knew were the priests in the Temple 2,000 years ago
@Esoterrorized
@Esoterrorized 4 месяца назад
@@Texasmade74 Pastor Arnold Murray......attacked by the modern Christian community for what he taught more than any other .....
@user-kv1po2dm5j
@user-kv1po2dm5j 4 месяца назад
Why does Dan sometimes use “they/them” pronouns for God?
@hardwork8395
@hardwork8395 4 месяца назад
I’ve wondered too. I’ve wondered is it because he’s acknowledging that different biblical textual traditions found within the Bible have various gods, some of them being female?
@tchristianphoto
@tchristianphoto 4 месяца назад
Because God is referred to usually but not always male in the biblical text.
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 4 месяца назад
It’s not the plural “they/them”, it’s the not-gendered third person singular. Makes a lot of sense imo. Who wants to open a discussion about God’s junk? 😅
@user-kv1po2dm5j
@user-kv1po2dm5j 4 месяца назад
@@pansepot1490 Yes, I understood it as the generic third-person singular. It’s also important to note that God does have male genitalia in some books of the Bible.
@stefanyalpoesy42
@stefanyalpoesy42 4 месяца назад
@@pansepot1490 Dan has addressed precisely that topic in some other recent videos... 😉
@papa_son3233
@papa_son3233 4 месяца назад
Adonai is another name for Enlil, the most high. Stop destroying the Bible, instead try to understand it people.
@Dice_roller
@Dice_roller 4 месяца назад
No, Yahwe is not Enlil.
@papa_son3233
@papa_son3233 4 месяца назад
@@Dice_roller Before he was call YHWH he is called Adonai by the Jews.
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