Responding to JoJo Hot Takes 

I genuinely burst out laughing when it happened. It's just so unexpected, especially after three parts of main villain gets defeated in epic fight with our hero.

@@Myne1001it’s absolutely hilarious, bro got ran over and you even see his head twist

That and he wanted to have the most normal life possible, and his life ended not by him being killed by the main characters' spirit punch ghosts but by a traffic accident, a way more normal way of dying

And also the ambulance ripped his face off Ironic for someone trying to hide hinself

How exactly is it dramatic irony though?

Well, part 1 is extremely generic imo. It's basically fist of the north star but with vampires lol. Part 2 is good though

They are better than 3 and 4

Exactly but that's just how the cultfandom works.

As a anime as a whole, part 1 feels like ova, part 2 is the big deal for jojo

@@八雲藍-y2j I do get what you mean. I guess some people don’t like super simple stories, and that’s fine.

I mean their main point was already about how he "just" wants to make the USA propers, completely ignoring that he's explicitly ok with letting the rest of the world suffer for it.

@@shinyagumon7015 Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who’d agree with him on that…

I might be assuming too much here but I think a big part of it is bias. A lot of people that I see who claim Valentine is a good guy tend to be American themselves, so I think the idea that his motive is to try to make the United States a utopia makes his goal seem noble to them. I feel like if SBR took place in a different country and Valentine had the exact same motive, focusing on whatever different country the part takes place in (let's say China, Afghanistan, Mexico, etc) there would probably be less people claiming his actions to be justified and heroic

@@bird1729 You're right. You are assuming too much. Way to throw American fans under the bus.

@@psycholuigiman I never said all American fans believe Valentine was right (I'm American myself), just that a good chunk of people who do think he's good are indeed American, and that it's likely from bias. I'm pretty sure more American fans recognize that Valentine is a bad guy anyway

That’s pretty much 90% of all JoJo fans you see on the internet.

Metal Gear fans: "First time?"

​@@JuanLeon-oe6xe No, but actually "Here is a man who believes poor/weak people should just die and that the economy should mimic natural evolution of Survival of the Fittest. He talks like he's selfless and doing it for the benefit of the country, when in reality, if his ideals were made manifest, it would put himself at the top of the ladder. He's also probably racist." *OMG GIGA-BASED CHAD??? BASED BASED BASED DONT FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR!! THE SOURCE IS I MADE IT UP xD xD xD*

Berserk fans: "Griffith fans, no! Sorry, force of habit".

I honestly dislike those people so much. If you don't have time to watch an anime, then fine, but please don't comment like your opinion is superior to someone's who has actually watched/read the series. And if you have the time, but don't care to watch it, but are still spouting bullshite under "Giorno from JJBA skibidi sigma edit" videos then please, kindly get off this side of the internet

People with DID often forget there pasts or backstories I’ve heard so Maybe all the traumatic parts were erased and his backstory is told from Doppios perspective witch is why so many important details are lift out. He’s kinda meant to be mysterious and unknown events suit his character and his disorder or theoretically his possession. Either way I’ve never thought of that perspective before but the unknown part of Diavolo’s character is probably my favorite part of him.

Interesting take on diavolos torture, however I still believe that eternally dying is just a little too much for a murderer who is "named after the devil", but only really is an above average mafia boss who sells drugs to kids. I think nothing a villain does will ever compute to infinitely dying unless they eternally tortured someone themselves. When it comes to Diavolo carrying assassinations on his own, he tends to make things quick and painless for people as he cares more about the success of his organization rather than making people suffer. I think a lot of people dehumanize him because of his allegory to the devil and the classic "selling drugs to kids," along with the fact that he tends to avoid fate, but if anything I think he's just as human because of his natural fear of failing his goals and the lengths he will go to in order to succeed in growing his organization and his control. YES, I think diavolo is evil but I do not see him as "true evil" in any way.

@@megadangerman3170 that's understandable, I get where you're coming from, and I believe you have a good point. I respect your opinion. Just to defend my view again though, in response to your comment which seems to be devaluing a bit what I meant; he's not "just" an above average mafia boss who's "named after the devil". He is a mysterious man born from no known father, from a 2 year pregnancy a woman had inside a prison, and lives as a secondary (secretly dominant personality) who commits the most horrible crimes since his youth, with no regards to humanity at all. He doesn't always kill quickly and efficiently too like you said, as seen when he buries his own mother alive with stitched mouth. He might as well be a real devil. We know supernatural concepts exist in Jojo, so his extremely mysterious origin which is completely unique to him, could be implying he's not even human. Whether he is or not, is not even completely confirmed when you consider all his unique characteristics. But even if we exclude that in specific and come back to the standard idea that he is still a normal human being despite his strange origins, I still see him as truly evil, like Speedwagon says about Dio "he isn't evil by circumstances, he was born evil." You might not see him as "true evil" but as Jotaro pointed out earlier in the series "evil is when you use the weak for your own gains" and Diavolo's entire life is about that. The powerful boss making literally everyone his pawns, even family and lovers, with zero regard for their lives and human dignity. They're either a step for his glory or deserving of discarding, doesn't matter what type is used. He only brings about disgrace for people, many times even inside his organization, for the convenience of maintaining power and profit while being completely faceless. If he were to stay alive longer, he would most likely continue to be this source of a tortuous life for many people. Of course ignoring all the evil assassins that torture people for fun that he employes like Cioccolata, is totally up to the individual, but completely negating his blame on that would be conveniently turning a blind eye for his responsibilities as boss. All other main villains and other horrible characters are humanized enough to be shown struggling and suffering on life's hands either in their backstories or in the face of defeat when opposing other characters. But then again, which type of human being would be deserving of eternal torment like mitologies and religions always talks about will always be complex topic in which the answer differs a lot depending on who you ask. At the end of the day I'm just one more in the group who prefers not to take time lamenting the endless suffering of someone who haven't shown even one good quality at least as human being in the entirety of his participation in the story, instead of the group who still reminds him as a normal human being, who did evil trought life, but not the worst evil he could, and is still deserving of compassion at least to be forgiven from eternal punishment. Which goes back to why I understand your comment and respect your opinion. Eternity is a long time after all. I'm just not capable of being compassionate towards Diavolo enough to oppose his already decided judgement, as I see him as an implied devil much more then a normal human being, figuratively and possibly even literally like I mentioned before. I don't usually make lengthy comments, so I'm grateful for whoever reads them all the way trought. I hope it's good food for thought.

@GrandMasterEdge777 Wow. At first glance, I said in my head, "I'm not reading allat," but then I decided to read it. You really cooked with this response, and tbh I think I completely agree with you now. The only thing I have to say is a quote detailing a friend's personal input regarding Diavolo's situation. "No amount of finite crimes warrant infinite punishment." That sums up the way I feel about diavolo.

@@megadangerman3170 thanks for deciding to read, I appreciate it! That's a good phrase from your friend indeed, I think it's fair.

Tbf all jojo parts can be skipped. You can, if you want to, skip straight to part 7, or 6 or whatever while understanding the general story. That's what makes jojos so nice, it's there for people who want to watch just the hype moments, or a short story, but it also caters to people who want a deep story.

​@@JuuniTV The "stupid comment" part was unnecessary, you know? Also, I'm saying that people are exaggerating at the time of saying they don't watch part 1 because they consider it "boring". While an anime with only 9 episodes may be boring for some, using that as the only excuse not to watch it is completely absurd.

I think some people really only find part 1 to be boring is because they know and expect jojo's to get better after this point.I suggest when it's your first time watching part 1 or jojo's in general you should really only focus on it and try to enjoy it,because some people really only watch part 1 is to try find it's flaws and comparing it to others parts.

Well i can see why people call part 1 boring and want to skip it

I watched part 1, on acid back in the day, just bored, friend skipped out on this. IDK when this was. But I was like "know what, I'll try it" and holy crap lol This got me hardcore into the series. The same thing happened with the show Expanse. Not suggesting you try what I did, but this show is another level when...you are lol

I absolutely love that idea, so it really hurts to have to point this out... Bruno never actually found out that he was destined to die from Rolling Stones. Mista found out, but he never explained it to him. Even if he did, since he thought he completely saved Bruno by destroying Rolling Stones (which he didn't even do completely), he wouldn't have thought Bruno was still going to die

In a way, Fate was testing them for the trails ahead. The stone was the means to sharp them for the fight ahead, or an easy path to spare them trail they aren't ready for. Divaolo grasp on itatly was iron grip and King Crimson ability of cheating Fate. The only way good to break it was through torment, trails, overcoming, and sacrifice. And it wasn't going to be easy. Breaking the stone demonstrates the length gang will have to go through to defeat Divaolo. If they couldn't beat the stone, they certainly couldn't beat Divaolo. With Giorno awaken his stand, mark a change the unavoidable battle of good vs evil. Consider Bruno death, if he was loyal to Divaolo, Giorno would had to kill him. And betraying the Divaolo is a battle you can't fight without taking losses.

At first I didn’t understand the point of Sleeping slaves but I’ve actually grown to love it. It’s truly about resolve and preserving even if the consequences are hard to swallow

since he bassicly skipped part 5, here's a hot take that shouldnt be one: Its bad

My main gripe is just that it comes after the end of the story. I'm just somebody who doesn't care for that recontextualization thing happening and I don't like prequel stuff. I prefer good foreshadowing. Of course, I also just didn't like part 5 as much as the other parts anyway. It's still real good, don't misunderstand me. Concepts like "fate" and "destiny" and thwarting those concepts are just kinda hard for me to wrap my head around, so an entire arc about that featuring a villain who's power is all about fated actions and such just wasn't up my alley.

People hate committing to anything. I've seen people bitching that they HAD to watch One Piece up to the time skip, as if that was slog to get through before the main course and not a main course itself. People are dumb, and can't appreciate what they have, they take it as an obligation and not fun. For the record to OP deniers, I watched OP up to the time skip and took a break. It's long but very fun and worth it if you like it.

@@blueshellincident yeah like, people be watching one piece just to say at the end of every arc "omg this arc was super long and extended, pretty sure it was shorter on the manga" GO READ THE FUCKING MANGA THEN. And I am not gonna mention skypiea.

@RSN_SGT_RENEWALhow pepole didn’t wanting to watch 9 episodios make HFTF a mistake? You are blaming HFTF for the part 1 skippers?

​@blueshellincident Except OP has dog shlt pacing in the anime, so that's reasonable. The manga flew by in comparison.

Why the one piece hate 😭😭😭

Johnathan’s average cross country trot.

Regular guy Joe's common walk to the park

Jojo's normal adventure A story about two brothers. One is an archeologist and another is... (i dunno who dio would be if he didnt become a vampire) a lawyer. Together they live a normal live in 18th century England where no unnatural creatures live

@@ESALTEREGO A lawyer.

I see a LOOOT of people talk about the series like that, going "ewww this is weird why is it so weird!!! >A

Valentine is a “villian”, but an understandable one. And his motivations are based and correct.

​@@bigsyrup8567so dooming the entire planet because of patriotism is correct and understandable? Please find help

@@bigsyrup8567 Johnny, tusk 4 his ass.

@@lordfreezer5631 Yes it is, it is heroic and righteous. You are just a weak fucking coward who doesn't have a resemblance of patriotic bone in his body

I think a lot of people see that sbr has a lot of conflicting morals and ambitions amongst the cast and uses that to write off valentine’s clearly evil intentions. I do think a lot of characters from the part don’t necessarily fit the traditional lens of good and evil, but valentine is NOT one of them

Cioccolata should've been the main villain

He definitely at least deserved the 7 Page Muda. Bro was a complete psychopath and even Diavolo was disgusted by him

Remember how Bucciarati experienced sensory overload from a single punch from Golden Experience? Even though it was never dwelt upon in detail I'm sure Ciocolata experienced the same thing only he was hit by the 7 page muda. It probably lasted an eternity from Ciocolata's perspective lol

I agree but to play devil's advocate pun unintended it could be argued that Ciocolatta wouldn't have been able to wreck as much havoc as he did to Rome during his fight if it weren't for Diavolo discovering the arrows and granting Ciocolatta a Stand capable of mass destruction in the first place. It's kind of like asking whose worse, a soldier committing a war crime or the officers who ordered/enabled it?

@@mrfact03s Okay, maybe not cuz Cioccolata doesn't even have a motive for what he does, dude just kills for fun...

“Ultimately, when a tennis ball bounces off the top of the net, no one knows which side it will fall on.”

I do like the idea I feel like it could've been executed better, the lil bab is only relevant to gyro those 2 times, and seeing "he died" at the end always kills me, its so fuckin random LMAO Its a really good character moment but damn is it just irrelevant

It's also less about achieving the goal and more Gyro sticking to his guns right to the end. He always believed in justice and wanted to keep innocent people safe, and if he ever took the easy way out with someone else getting harmed as a result, he'd be betraying himself. So even if the kid didn't live a long life, it doesn't matter. Dead men tell no tales, and Gyro lived according to what he believed was right without giving up his principles along the way.

tbh same. I was considering drawing it too

Funnier Valentine and the funniest are better anyways 😒

“Why Funny Valentine was the best President in history”, by Funny Valentine. Chapter One: *Girth.*

​@@Jacksontrooper777 You forgot the funniest Valentine, Hilarious Halloween

It combines the cuteness and cute ear factor of a cat with the horrifying destructive potential and murderous inclinations of a cat

stray cat would be awesome to have as a pet, it's really just a cat that won't make much noise, especially at night, and it will protect you from any danger

And Jotaro still managed to deal with it.

Or they just didn’t read the part and missed that scene. I’ve seen that plenty of times

@@analyticalstarscream5299 yes, that's also true

He’s an American politician, of course he’s a pedo

He’s an American politician, it’s a given that he’s a pedo

internet user try not to cry problematic challenge (impossible)

Me too, I always thought it was only like that in the openings

It fits in so well with part 4, looks so natural that I never noticed it was different

how? I swear jojo fans have no comprehension whatsoever

​@@silentclaw6439 or maybe people get so engrossed in the story and dialogue that they dont notice background visuals?

​@@silentclaw6439to be fair if someone watches with subtitles their attention will be mostly at the bottom of the screen and not the color of the sky 😂

i thought it was because of the Singers voice?

It was also because the song was like "chase" (repeated for 80 times) and a final sentence. Also the visuals with Crazy diamond fighting against some kind of dark energy strings didn't help

I like the song by itself, but it's kind of an aggressive song instead of what should be a mysterious one. I can't see Josuke rocking out to Chase, but Great Days and CNBT both, for sure.

honestly chase always hit hard and felt apt to me, yeah even with the slice of life shenanigans in morioh it still has the dark underbelly of kira and angelo, and i still think angelo is one of the most gruesome jojo villains and he's a minor villain at that

its so hilarious that the guy who spewed that hot take hasnt even read part 7

See ya in the 2024 elections i guess😅

@@ESALTEREGO what great options the US have, Genocide country sympathiser, and racist who abuses women and is happy to remove human rights

Don't worry Trump is going to jail unlike Funny Valentine, Biden's punishment is that he'll be dead in a few years

Christ is risen

He has died, and will die, for more seconds than he was ever alive, for more atoms than he ever touched, and far more times than he broke fate. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be punished, but at some point torture becomes cruel. Diavolo reaches that point no matter what you think is adequate for him.

I think the point made in the video is very strong: Diavolo COULD SCAPE FATE. Meaning that, even if he was dethrowned as a whole mafia's boss, he would still be able to scape whatevee punishment was sent his way, thanks to his very specific stand, that makes him able to scape any situation by re-positioning himself elsewhere. The ONLY way to punish a guy this cruel, insensitive, and inhumane, is with a punishment he would not be able to scape. ¿It was the most humane way? No. But it was the only way to stop him from being a monster... A enclosure of fate itself that was not able to be controlled by him. (Like, imagine someone like him with the power to manipulate, not his fate only, but others' fates as well, thanks to make his stand more powerfull with the arrow… He would become a DIO 2.0 VERY quickly.)

Ok that's all bad, but some villains are worse. Dio had a mom literally eat her own baby. He had a quick death.

Nah. It is still insane that Diavolo has had the worst fate in all of fiction. Yes, the point is he tried dominating fate so he was punished by fate. But morally speaking, he deserves a torturous death. NOT ALL OF THEM! Like even his will resets to zero: He can't even get accustomed to how painful it is. It just looks extra weird given he's not even the most evil villain in the series, not even the most evil in his own part.

I mean, Diavolo probably just ordered chiocollata to kill sorbet an gelato without any specification and the gruesome death was just chiocollata's twisted touch.

I think hamon makes more sense anyways, since it kinda sounds like breathing. Ripple doesn't really have any sort of connection to the actual acts the characters prefom

Spin in part 7 being used alongside stands is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to happen to hamon in part 3 but didn't.

I read the fan translated manga back in 2004 which always called it ripple. I didn't recall seeing hamon used in translations until the 2012 anime. I can't remember what word the official translation of the 1993 anime or VIZ's early 2000's translation of Startdust Crusaders manga used.

Like this is literally the start of the jostar curse where each joestar is cursed to deal with soke sort of consequence of dio putting on that mask

Destroying other countries in order to benefit America is like, a fundamental part of American politics and has always been even before the nation itself was actually founded.

I disagree but I do think they’re crucial to developing Jotaro’s ability to bluff under pressure, which is what he does throughout the Dio fight

It’s all about personal taste. Personally, I dislike part 3, as I enjoy character development and progression, and the only person I can really get that from in Stardust Crusaders is Polnareff.

Don’t feel nuts, feel proud. Means you found something to love in each and don’t let the problems bring you down. That or your standards are insanely low and you just ignore all problems due to self-delusion, but I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume this isn’t the reason! Especially since I also like all the parts.

"spin" is so iconic i really hope that doesn't happen

Just like many real country leaders...

I think that they are just assholes. "Got mine fuck you" is the driving factor behind a very large percentage of American politics.

Part 7 is the best part or something

Speedwagon is Bae

Dio is hot

​@@mrfact03sthat's hot

Chase is actually good

I think that line us more symbolic since Hamon and Stands are connected.

Hermit Purple is actually implied to be a direct extension of Hamon. Both Hamon and Stands are manifestations of the human fighting spirit (as well as the sun for the former), and Hermit can channel Hamon very easily through it.

Yeah lmao

jojo fans will skip big chunks of the anime or even watch it through youtube clips, never read the manga and have the gall to say "araki forgot" or "part 1 boring" when they can't even remember major plotlines

I finished parts 1, 2, and 3 recently and, genuinely, the biggest reason I couldn't watch Jojo for the longest time was bc of Part 1. Part 2 is fun, Part 3 was a little long at times (especially in the anime) but I get that it was introducing what Stands were for future parts. But I genuinely feel like I could've skipped Part 1 and been fine with it. It didn't do a whole lot and I had to watch it in DUB to get through it.

@@biohazardbin aired

I can't speak for every jojo part but I think it might come down to reading digital vs reading physical. I started reading part 8 digitally in black and white and just like you there was a lot of panels mostly during action scenes that I couldn't understand at all so switched to colored. Though more recently I have picked up the part 4 volumes and have no problem understanding what's happening. With the actual books the pages are the intended size and you can properly make out the "sketchiness" of each panel. It's easier to make out what's happening in highly detailed drawings without the lines blurring into a solid black blob like they did on my screen.

IMO it could also be because of scan quality. I've been reading the Viz scans and have no trouble understanding what's going on, but I know that the black and white scans for older parts on sites like Mangadex are pretty old, contributing to their low legibility.

still better than part 1

It appears you did not read the part where I said I think part 3 is the weakest part

1: Robbing Jouske the chance to meet his biological father and develop a bond with him is kind of fucked up? like, its probably an overlooked part of part4, but Jouske being a bastard informs so much about his character. He has no friends at the beginning of the part! When he has the chance to meet Joseph in person he has the chance to form a connection, something especially important since his only male role model, his grandfather, dies earlier in that part. It's a nice bit of character growth that I wouldn't want to remove On the opposite end, having Joseph come to Morio and basically become a father to Shizuka makes up for his (assumedly) unintentional abandonment of Jouske. If he died at part 3 and then in part 4 we find out that he had messed around with Suzie and had a kid, it would besmirch his character without chance of redemption, leaving a sour note I don't think I agree with you 2: I absolutely agree with you here. Requiem stands are hyper-specific by design, leaving them weak to anything outside of their use case in part 5. As far as we know, GER must know the combatant and be directly attacked to activate. Nothing hints us to believe GER works like WoU

For 2: my hot take to your hot take: it would technically have been able to... but literally only for Giorno. Not for anyone else. (Which imo is a fate worse than death, just imagine that for all of your power... at the end that power stops you from following into the next universe. You're just stuck in normal speed as everyone ELSE around you gets slowed down toward absolute stillness, leaving only suddenly-immortal animals and normal plants until you die, however old that ends up being, and on the flipside, everyone ELSE sees you rapid-aging and moving at superspeeds to match the world's current one, and to them you basically either ran off on your own and disappeared, or they were unlucky enough to watch you wither and die.)

@Vespercold Well, my reason for the first take is that: 1. It would have made for a more dramatic and realistic ending, not that Jojo is known for realism, but also because 2. Joseph doesn't really do much in Morio. Him and Josuke spent only an episode worth of time together, and the rest of the time, he kinda just hangs around. Making his revival at the end of part 3 kinda unnecessary. I don't really mind the way things turned out, but I thought it would be interesting to consider this what if.