Il faut savoir que ces merveilleux châssis aluminium avaient une durée de vie très limitée, car ils vieillissaient mal, dû aux contraintes mécaniques. Les top team changeaient le châssis 2 ou 3 fois selon le type de courses courues. Alors oui le numéro, l'historique spécifique, OK...mais une auto qui a bien courue, on ne peut pas dire que tel ou tel a conduit, il a conduit un numéro de chassis, mais certainement pas ce châssis aujourd'hui en 2022... ceci dit la 917 est la genèse absolue des 936 et autres grandes autos d'endurance de Porsche, elle est le résultat d'un fabuleux coup de poker 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Both 022 and 024 were sold by the factory. No races were listed as being run by those cars. 034 was used for the filming of the LeMans. That info according to a listing of all 917s, what races they ran, how far and how long, etc. I would love to see one of these in person. I just might this June as I'll be passing by Stuttgart...might as well stop and check out the new museum.
This car was sold after filming and never raced again which lines up with this story that it was out of sight for 30 years and is in such good shape. These are the most amazing of racing cars as most here agree so their histories are just fascinating. Chassis 022 raced quite a bit in various colours but is now painted back in Gulf/Wyer colours. It is described as a Gulf/Wyer car in many articles about Seinfeld but it is definitely the car Mcqueen bought from Porsche and was never a Gulf car.
It may be the race car as both 022 & 024 are from the first 1969 run of 25 long tail cars. Neither were gulf cars but both were painted & numbered to match so they could blend their own '71 footage with the '70 race footage. Siffert definitely shows as the first owner direct from Prosche AG but neither car ran at all in '69. Siffert drove for Gulf/Wyer in 1970 so It's possible that Mcqueen bought the car from Siffert virtually unused. Chassis 022was sold & raced after filming but 024 wasn't
Don't think there's any doubt that this was a Mcqueen car but I don't think it was the car they ran in the race with Linghe. This is Chassis 024 and is the Jo Siffert car from 1970. The chassis that was sold to Mcqueen's company new was 022 He planned to drive it himself in the race with then current F1 champ Jackie Stewart. That car is now owned by Jerry Seinfeld. I believe this car was the one bought after season's end 1970, used for filming the movie scenes in 1971 and never raced since.
HI, no Mcqueen did not drive a 917 during filming. He did drive Porsche 908s in races though. As the narrator says, insurers who were underwriting his production company, (solar productions) wouldn't have it. The film nearly bankrupt Mcqueen anyway. There were some crashes during filming though and englishman David Piper, a well known racer and collector actually lost a foot in a crash while filming some of the sequences that were shot later after the Le mans race.
Yes he did drive the 917 during filming but not in a race. There is a documentary by his son on the making of the film where he specifically says that his father drove him in a 917 during a break in the filming. Some of the cars, both Ferrari and Porsche were supplied by David Piper and it was a 917 of his that crashed causing him to lose his lower leg. Again the documentary details the crash and shows the wreckage of the 917 completely cut in half.
Apparently Steve McQueen missed a gear when they were putting some footage together and destroyed the 917 engine, the bill to the insurance company was so big that they refused to let him drive, that is according to Richard Attwood who was also driving the camera car, it was at this time that David Piper had his accident I thought that the Porsche 917 was made from Aluminium tube and it was pressurised with nitrogen with a gauge to indicate if there was a crack in the tube?
I remember watching this video a couple of years ago, before I had seen the movie. I thought they had spoiled the ending of it for me; and was pretty pissed.
Il faut savoir que la Ferrari et la Porsche qui ont été accidentée dans le film dans le cadre du scénario étaient en fait des répliques sur base de Lola T70, une "LOLARI" et une "PORSCHOLA". Dans la réalité, David Piper a eu un accident avec une vraie 917 et avait perdu une jambe des suites d'une gangraine.... dûe à une intrusion de liquide de frein sur et dans la plaie lors du choc.... Voilà 👍🏻
It is one of a very few of my favourites race car. I read somewhere that the famous zig-zag crash was performed by McQueeen himself; in a specially "self-destroying" car, the director asked him to hit the fences at 80 kph, but he did it at over 180. When the car came to a halt, he jumped over and asked 'was it any good'?
You read total rubbish. "The crashing cars in the movie "Le Mans" weren't real Ferrari 512S & Porsche 917K. In all racing scenes of the movie you can see real Ferrari’s& Porsches, except the crash scenes. Those cars were Lola T70 with recreated Porsche/ Ferrari bodywork. They were nicknamed "Porschola" & "Lorari". The main reason for this was the price. A Lola was much cheaper than the 512S & 917. And it was outdated. Also Lola build 88 T70, Ferrari & Porsche only 25 for their homologation(in fact they had less than 25, but that's another story). There are 2 big crashes in the movie(Watch the full movie on my Facebook page. Link is in my bio): •Erich Stahler(Siegfried Rauch/ stuntman Erich Glavitza) spins his #8 512S before Indianapolis corner. His teammate in the #7 512S can avoid a coming together, but left the road in a big shunt. The car exploded. •Michael Delaney (Steve McQueen/ stuntman Peter Huber) in the #20 917K failed to see a 911(driven by Glavitza), avoids contact, but crashes into the Armco barriers. The car is completely destroyed after heavy contact with the barriers. When you look closer, you'll see the livery of the #11 Lola, which spun out earlier in the movie, at the sidepod of the crashing 917K. The stuntmen Glavitza & Huber, who also had little roles in the film, trained a lot for the crashes. Rob Slotemaker was the stuntman, who spun & drifted the cars in the movie. They did the part of crashing well & earned 70000$ for their work. But for the final destruction the cars had been remote - controlled & fitted with dummies. For the Porsche crash they worked with 14 cameras, 3 of them special slow motion cameras. The crash wasn't correct performed, but still made it in the film." deskgram.net/p/1706830986048156638_2984237048
I thought Porsche did restorations as does Ferrari. I would bet the cost is astronmical. I am pretty sure there is a video on RU-vid of Porsche's factory where they restore old cars.
The restoration cost will be considerable but a fraction of what the car will be worth. Those wheel cracks could have been there from the get go. How would anyone know?
It wouldn't have been this car on display. It would be the Solar productions car. It is chassis NO. 22 ( currently owned and occasionally run by Jerry Seinfeld. This car is chassis 024 and has no race history. It shows as being delivered to Jo Siffert from Porsche. It's certainly among the lowest and maybe the lowest mile 917 anywhere. It might have been used in the film because Siffert was involved. It certainly didn't ever race proper as far as 917 race history is concerned.
