There are a lot of reasons. A lot of it has to do with the culture of continually realizing someone is better than you and striving to catch up. And the one dude who IS better than everyone is only there because he doesn’t realize it and is trying to catch up too. The other thing is that culturally they aren’t looking for dudes that beat their chest with false bravado. Just dudes who meet the standard quietly and strive to be better. There are exceptions though. Some of whom have been interviewed here. 😂
It's no different in almost every environment where a level of expertise is bred, the most talented people in my field have NEVER been egotistical or had blown up chests etc. They were the exact opposite of that so I recognize the trait immediately!
Beating alcohol and depression is a tremendous achievement. I've been there and I can say that death was preferable to another day of open mouthed slogging through the freezing sewer of alcohol and defeatism. This man has a great deal to offer humanity and I appreciate his story.
Just want to say, out of all the military podcasts/military interview podcasts, you guys are by far my favorite. Love the duo, personalities and style. Keep up the awesome work and podcasts. Love ya guys.
Wow that hit home really hard at one hour in about second chances, for me my wife passed away from fighting a two year battle with cancer. Then I lost everything due to the medical debt and while she was in the hospital I found she had ran up almost a 100 grand in credit card debt. Now here I am at 53 years old trying to get back. If it wasn't for my 13 year old daughter I doubt I would have tried getting on my feet again.
Pat is such an inspiration and a legend, the rest of us can only hope to be 1% of the down to earth, honest badass he is. Thank you for your service Mr. MacNamara
My favorite dude to listen to!!! Thanks guys! I greatly admire his silent professionalism. I know the old timers before him are smiling. I do hope he writes a book that tells his story and releases it in a couple decades when things are declassified. Awesome listen!
As a combat vet and an artist myself, I truly enjoyed listening to this episode and will say that Pat Mac is by far MY personal favorite guest that has been on The Team House. All of your guests are great but Pat just "connected". I too use art (music -bass 30 yrs, painting, drawing, writing) as therapy for the "issues" that combat medics develop from combat rather than take any Big Pharma Poison pills. I recommend others try the same. Pat, THANK YOU BROTHER!! You're a good dude and A GREAT American!
The beginning of the 18X program was terrible. I went through pre-selection smoke three times and then straight to selection with blisters and stress fractures. Needless to say they hated us. They gave us outdated maps that were so bad we had to go over land instead of on the roads. Good times but I didn't get through it.
Great seeing Pat on your show. I was in Special Forces when I first met Pat in passing and let's just say his demeanor is very hard to forget (LOL!). In regards to the question about why SOF guys have adjusting once they get out, I can say I agree 100% with Pat. There are a lot of separation issues. I was in CIF/CRF where we had a few guys from Pat's old unit. Even though we were considered a well supported SOF unit, those guys were miserable. Why? Because like Pat said, it was the best unit ever. When I got out of the military all of a sudden my expertise didn't matter to civilians, especially some idiot civilians who were never the best at anything they ever did.
Great episode with a lot of important themes. I got remarried at 38 near the end of my Army career - it is a vastly better relationship than my first marriage. I can relate to what SGM McNamara experienced in that regard. This is a goodd lesson that even for some of the scary humans, success and happiness isn't just about training until you puke and cutting throats. Thanks for the reorientation.
I love listening to Pat. I watch his videos constantly. He's always so fired up. He could talk about tying his shoes and still sound motivated as Hell.
Pat is the type of man, if he was my friend i would follow him around like a puppy dog. "Where we going Pat", "what we doing today Pat", "Can i come Pat". And i am an ex British vet and 60 years old. lol
This is a fantastic interview. I’ve watched multiple interviews with Pat, hours of interviews, and this is the best of them all. Maybe it’s because I really need his motivation right now, or maybe somehow, he’s just more relatable in this one, or maybe just you guys are that darn good at interviewing. Great job keep up the good work!
Such an honest account. So true about accidents and mistakes, there’s a difference between poor preparation and making a mistake, and making a mistake because you’re just pushing the limits so hard. If you’re not starting to make mistakes you’re training too comfortably. Thank you again PM and the whole team.
This is the greatest video on the internet. I freakin love you guys. Intel guys can be so cliquish, but for those of us former Ft Huachuca alumni, we can only wish we were as cool as Pat. I'd follow Pat into the gates of hell, not give it even a moments second thought. The single greatest thing I did in the military was running 9 min 15 sec. two mile at Huachuca (Apache Flats, baby) following a high-speed low drag guy like Pat. If I would have ran into people like Pat in my chain of command, I would have stayed in. I loved the Army but absolutely hated the incompetence the permeated the climb up into a tier 1 job. I miss Frankfurt so much, 5TH Corp, Sachsenhausen, and entertaining our Soviet guests! LOL
Loved reading his stuff on shooting. His book was a great learning tool I used with my guys when I was in the service. No I was no ranger or SOF (things I wanted to be). Inspiring stuff.
I know first hand what he's talking about. Lost everything in the first marriage. I mean all of it personal clothes, cars , all storage everything. She stopped paying everything. I was working injured and rehabbing a broken back. At the age of 56. My motto became this is not the first time I started over. But now I have some one who will not do me that bad ever.
Man I feel for you I'm right there with you and same age too. Only difference was how my wife ran up the debt before she got leukemia and after the medical debt. Hopefully your doing better now too. If you were closer I'd buy you a few rounds knowing the shoes you walked in too.
@@jtaylorb88 driving a 2020 dodge ram , bank account same since I fired her ass , credit cards opened a lawn care business. You see there are 2 kinds of people out there ones that are anchors , they will drag you down, if you refuse to let go. Then there are people that will lift you up .by helping you up when you are down. Choose wisely
I went to a few of Sorinex's Summer Strong events and Pat Mac was there doing a demo at one of them. You could tell this dude has lived what he's saying. He speaks the same way Olympic gold medalists speak. Knowing from doing, screw the letters after your name.
That’s funny, I retired and became a part-time teacher. Best decision I ever made. I owe my best friend (Andria) and my daughter for guiding me to leave my government job, and start teaching. My quality of life has gotten so much better.
So 9 months later, Fall 2023, it's RIF season in corporate America. I hear PatMac say that getting laid off is scary and immeidately lost a ton of anxiety about the possibility of being laid off. Thanks, Pat, for putting it into perspective.
This is probably the most entertaining episode. Seems that Pat could have been as good a stand up comedian as he was an operator. The "big 7/11 in the sky" What a fun show.
I was stationed in Berlin Bde twice, Feb 89-Dec 90 then Oct 92- Jun 84. Det A and 39th PSSC were an open secret. I remember being on CQ one night in Feb or March 89 only allowed to read Army TMs or correspondence courses. I was looking through the US Berlin Command Phone Book. Each BN or Company had its own page with all the phone numbers from CO down to Supply and NBC room, etc. Except Special Security Detachment which had only 1 phone number listed on the entire page. That's when I found out about Det "A" /39th PSC.
How do I say this without being too disrespectful to other “military podcasts” out there…. I think you guys ask some of the most intelligent questions and have a vast array of guests and guys and girls from all branches and jobs. In my opinion the most interesting. Everyone likes to hear about Navy Seals missions and how bad ass they are, but I think the market is way oversaturated with that at the moment…
As mentioned this is US equivalent to UK BRIXMIS. These guys were also in Bad Tolz and next door to us in Dusseldorf station. UK Was in Northern Germany BAOR. The yanks down in the south. So did'nt mix often on exercises. In fact it wasnt until after the wall fell. That we all came togather in Desert storm. Great story teller. Remember the mullets. Mobility is survivabilty. What a true middle age proverb
