REVAMPED PHOVEUS IS NO LONGER A COUNTER TO DASH HEROES | advance server 

0:17 is best part in this video 😊

At least he will no longer be a situational pick solely for one purpose, but I will miss his old design for sure

Possible way to make his old Anti Blink mechanic would be to make his passive be triggered everytime enemy hero blinks, but only the increased range and CC is there. You'd still need to displace them yourself if you want the other stats

Undertaker's Bell sound on his ultimate is a nice touch🗿

The redesign is so good, now he no longer looks like purple Aldous, and that bell sound is just perfect. Just wish they'd bring back the anti dash mechanic especially with the upcoming wanwan buff. And please just this one time moonton, don't mess up the voice acting and please add interactions between Astaros, Lieh, and Edith

Honestly a simple cd buff on his og version would've helped him enough in the meta. It's not bad that he's a situational pick that is only best on squads or ranked, although yes he will still rely on enemy dashing whether the enemy has dash skills or not, he's still better that way. They just need to reduce the cd on all his skills and keep his original style and he's good to go. And he's way more fun that way; insane ult range, high sustainability, annoying passive, and a good poke/damage hero that also specializes on chasing. It's like an overly complicated alucard except he deals magic dmg.

This revamp is what we call pure revamp. (Magic Damage to physical damage )

If they reduce the cooldown of its passive by like 50 to 70% i could see it working.

Idk if anyone is gonna read this, but I think I see what they did here. Arlott's 2nd skill work best when his CC as well his teammates' hits an enemy. They took that idea and place it on Phoveus, but added more additional buffs, more CC options, and placed it on his ult in compensation to letting him do his own work. What I see them doing is simple. They dont want him to soley be a counter to dash heroes, they want him to be like the heroes we have today. Revamped Minsithar for example. Before he was like Phoveus, only being used to counter hard dash heroes, but now, hes in more roles, INCLUDING being an actual EXP laner that can do dmg. On first release, it was clear Phoveus was only made to counter dash heroes, but thats it. He was like the true definition of a situational hero, because his whole gimmick was to be a dash counter, not someone that can be used in every match. With this revamp, they want that to change with this new Phoveus, but they just simply didn't execute it right. Idk if this is too late or not, but all thwy gotta do is bring back his old passive.

FINALLY he doesn't have stiff movements, he was lazily done when he came out in the game.

THEY YASSIFIED HIM 😭😭😭

Possible Adjustment ideas (that may or may not keep his anti dash mechanic): 1. Passive effect has no CD whenever enemies dash but only the increased range and CC is there. Phovi needs to displace them himself for the other stats. 2. Or entirely remove the CD but his ult deals lesser dmg. Allowing for minimum 5 ults w/one dash and BA after each CC. 3. 2nd phase of S1 can be aimed further than just infront of him, it IS his current S2 afterall. 4. Better Shields or even Dmg Reduction is good too. I could've directly suggested for these to Moonton but my potato phone would lag out before customer service can open

From magic damage to physical damage that's what we need Edit1: he is like a street fighter 💀 and no longer an evil buddy from abyss Edit 2: i was thinking and this is a nerf , he is easier to counter against dashing heros, no shield and condition of activating his ult is pointless with high cd

It feels like Granger grow old

The 0:17 flameshot cut off made me crack up so hard that my dog farted waking up

Not the flameshot cutoff 😭

I do wish they kept his old look though. I need his Greek God physique back.

*it's just arlott with different style.. stun for unlimited dash, to displace for unlimited jump..* *but arlott is more way better because teammate cc can also help him, when this new phove is not even flameshot can't help him anymore, when petrify can help arlott..*

Tbh this new revamp feels alot like a nerfed version of arlott, but with his ult being alot more faster and with how u can use him in more situations than just a counter to dash heroes is a very good change, but with how u need to use ur own cc is kind of limiting making u not be able to spam ur ult back and forth but who knows if this will be the final change

As far i can see this revamp is great, the shield from 1st skill is there which helps him survive a lot during fights and now his second skill also has airborne affect which he lacks in current version! now onE change is u need SPECIFIC TEAMMATES WITH push or pull affects to get full use of him instead of DASHING BLINKING ENEMIES!

He looks like Asura from Asura’s Wrath

Lmao the bell sound is like when bells on churches (for you funeral when your hero dies)

ngl i want to anti blink gimmick to still be there. like just add it as another trigger condition for lets say ultimate only, still making him viable for countering dash heroes.

I do not see why his design has to change , It looks 100% up to date and its very cool

There was a time I was maining him. The biggest downside is the switch from Magic to Physical. There is no need or reason for this switch. Esme, Julian, Alice, Gunevere are Magic heroes with fighter like properties, and they are pretty well rounded overall. Physical damage means he'll be countered by Wind of Nature. Besides that, having a "Natalia/Guinevere passive" that knocks away instead of a free delayed Ultimate that can fuck up your position does have some advantage. Its shorter range (not very short) is guaranteed you can dive enemies in a safe distance, and it sets up a great combo. Plus it's faster too. Old Phoveous has delayed ult and slow awkward combo.

Natalia needs something like this next, better model design but improve the effects of her camoflouge and she'll be good

0:18 that flame shot was personal 😂

So he is CC focused just like Arlott. They might synergise quite well together

My suggestion to make phoveus feel like a counter to dash heroes is that, everytime an enemy dashes it resets the cd of the enhance basic atk passive (the one where it displaces enemies) and reduces non-ult skills 1 or 0.5 secs

He seems like a roundabout or harder Arlott with the mechanic changes. This'll just make him more obsolete once they nerf his damage if he ends up being a popular pick because there's no reason to pick him over Arlott. Although it does provide an Arlott alternative if both teams want him. The trigger condition for his passive is too difficult when you consider that it's supposed to work in tandem with being able to trigger it if the enemy uses their own dash. It's counterintuitive, because it's more likely that the enemy is dashing away from you if you're trying to catch them, and consequently be out of basic attack range. Some scenarios I could see him being useful is against Arlott, Lancelot, and in some cases, Nolan and Hayabusa if they're dashing towards you, since these heroes are the type to dash towards you and often be in basic attack range of melee heroes because of it, so you can take advantage of the free passive activation. I wonder if shorter skills that displace the hero will count towards a passive stack though. Hilda's 1st skill enhanced basic attack, 2nd skill and ult, and Saber's enhanced basic attacks can give him extra stacks if they're counted as dashes. It would be 5 separate "dashes" from Hilda and also Saber after his 2nd skill rework since his ult is likely considered a dash, meaning if his enhanced basic attacks are a dash both uses of his second skill (+ enhanced basic attack) would give Phoveus stacks.

Honestly 10/10 change in all aspects, he looks insane, unique, strong enough to be playable in most matches and fun

Maybe if the devs made his ults triggered by enemies blink too that would be perfect

0:17😂😂

basically like Arlott instead of stun pushback

To retain his original identity of countering dash heroes, I think he should still be able to ult on dashing heroes but with the slower ult that he has now. You can think of it us his cc being the only thing that allows faster ults. Just like you said, he doesn't feel like phoveus but just a new hero similar to him. Now, he should feel like an actual fighter with the added bonus of countering dash heroes. And not just a hero you use when you see a lot of dashers. Tho i feel like they'd have to remove his new passive if they did this.

Bennedetta is gonna have a lot of fun with this one

They ruined my boi

Still needs work. I honestly feel that he's passive should have the shielding effects instead of his 1st skill and have a reduced cooldown but overall i like the new design and the new effect Good work

Fire design ngl

Love that bell sound when Ulting

I like his ults sfx tho... chimes when goes up and heavy bell when he lands.

10/10 redesign 🗿

Not gonna lie I'm going to miss his old voice it was unique and absolutely terrifying

R.I.P. Phoveus

3:23 sound of hitting like Bell of the London

have quite test on him. additional -spellvamp is a good option on him?- -what shield? in description, s1 hit enemy hero = gain shield. there no shield. -his ult have delay make him vulnerable a bit. and only get heal after have slam the enemy. -heal get from ult is low. At possible, ~600 pts at low -very bad vs shield. shield dorsn't proc phoveus bonus %target Maxhp dmg combo i could find: s2 - s1 - ult - ba - ult - s1 - ult

Phovius's new portrait is giving Alucard Legend Skin vibes

Even tho relying heavily on his personal stun, the fact that there's no ult cooldown and mana arguably made him much more stronger and reliable.

OMG MY BOY FINALLY GOT SOME LOVEEE!!! when he was new i even TRIED to use him but he was too bad, im SO HAPPY that he got both reworked and buffed!!!

It's actually quite nice, he deals acceptable damage while building hybrid build, and yes he no longer counter heroes who have dash but you no longer need to wait for them to dash and instead has a lot of displacement skills(which is great if place as a roamer), so for me it's perfect.

This is like a whole new hero with some Phoveus in it

If you timed you enhanced basic attack when they use a charge or a blink skill. You can just use your ultimate. You can also knock them back to your turret since his enhanced basic attack can kock back enemies

If it like this I think moonton want to combo phoveus with heavy gathering cc like tigreal or atlas or khufra so that his first skill hit multiple enemy and ult can be spam ... The direction phoveus go is good because he more like a fighter now it just his play style now more of hit than run rather than "i hit who ever doing dash" kinda thing and dash mean he can run or chase ... Kinda interesting approach....

this is a really good revamp if not all the heroes released now has tons of dashes with them. i could see that this has more skill expression than the last but his current state is actually fitting in the current meta where you have ever dashing harith.

He literally looks like Martis now: similar eyes and face (ESPECIALLY the symbol on their forehead), similar spiky shoulder pads, similar exposed abs, similar pants... not that I mind it (except for the stupid double belt, hugh), but at first i mistook this for a Martis' skin... Aside from that, the rest of the revamp is nice. I'll miss the old playstyle, but Phoveus does need a big change.

I can see the build being: warrior/magic boots, sea halberd, despair, oracle, bfp (brute-force plate) and sea blade or hunter strike, with fighter talent

I don't think Phoveu's revamp was bad, but his ultimate not being triggered by other champions' control or dash anymore is a bummer. It would have been better if they kept the ultimate's cooldown but still let it be activated by other champions' dashes and control.

Well hororo you got a point, but then you can still string his ult. First you land your cc (yes it'll need good timing, but that skill 2 looks promising), then you ult, once you ult you'll automatically gap close between you and your opponent, now you can again throw skill 2 or 1 as per the distance and continue with your ult...

With the requirement of phoveus needing to displace the enemies himself first, it kinda feels like arlott. Only phoveus more limited due to him needing to displace the enemies himself in exchange for unlimited jumps, Wherein arlott can trigger his 2nd skill by whoever's CC it is, in exchange for mana cost and potentially screwing up the 2nd skill combo if too fast? Otherwise, seeing as arlott is less limited to the requirements to his 2nd skill, arlott just feels like a better version of this phoveus.

He Plays similar to Arlott now but instead of 2nd as a dash he has ultimate so the combo will be 1st skill to activate 1st skills passive then 2nd skill to pull enemies then ultimate, after ultimate 1st skill second hit will activate giving another stun ult again then Passive push back will activate giving another chance for ult I think petrify will be useful for him now rather than flameshot pushback

Imo, he is even more niche with the ult adjustment. Instead of being dash reliant, he is now CC reliant. If the allies can force enemy to move and trigger Phoveus passive, this will work But sadly, I think will be effective if only Phoveus forces them to move, and that sucks.

Rip phoveus, now its only you minsithar who can counter dash heroes.

I'd say the only thing that needs to change is his passive. Instead of triggering only after a certain condition is met, I would make it automatically trigger every few seconds, and dash skills/displacement skills would make the cooldown shorter.

They could just merge his old skills with these changes😂😂

If moonton make the passive cd will reduce when enemy use blink then it might be a good revamp on phoveus

I think it just fair only use own CC to trigger ult, while the ult has no CD. But as a phoveus main, i still like the old one for now

I don't mind his current skills, my only issue is his passive that only reduced cd when enemy blinks. This new passive is a whole lot better

7:38 You forgot that his passive has 6 sec cd in late game and his S1 reduces it by 50%. So he can jump a lot. His S1 has 4,5 sec cd, s2 10 sec. So 40% cdr tank build allows him to jump almost non stop while his dmg is still OK because of hp based dmg. Imagine him with revamped Thunder belt

I think what needs to be changed about him right now is only this: **Current first skill pulls enemies towards the center.** That way, he'll be WAY more viable in countering dash heroes. Also, second skill can be a dark crystal that lasts for 15 seconds. First Phase: Summon a crystal in a location. Second Phase: He blinks to the circle. Can only be used once. This way, he'll be perfect.

So sad they'll remove his anti-dash mechanic when new mage hero who can trigger enemies movement would be very fun for Phoveus. 😭

The bell sound in ultimate is very good

nice combo for guin main 2nd skill phoveus + guin's ult

"You have recently forced to move ?" They made him a burst cc mage fighter.

on a 1v1 situation I think he can use 5 ults at max. If passive skill on basic attack can trigger his ult then the combo would be BA, ult, 1st, 2nd, ult, BA, ult, 1st, ult, BA, ult

They just gotta put his old passive back on the ult, but have it on like 2 sec cd on dashing heroes. He should be able to ult rapidly by his own but can also ult on dashing heroes if they really want this to work tbh.

He will good at Exp and Roam lane (beside Jungling, cause anyone can Core even Mage Support XD).

The thing i like about this revamp is how metal they made him hope they kept the old accent and language of astreus cuz it definitely fits this bigger version of him. His ult got nerf but it's definitely gonna dunk hard

So his 1st skill when hit second time again like his old 2nd skill and the new 2nd skill is mini airborne + slightly pull them into phoveus and his ult no longer about like his old ult instead our cc to make his ult available to use...in short explanation his playstale just spam his skill for cc to get his ult but no longer about dash or high mobility and also they also change his magic damage into physical damage [i guess 2nd talent of assassin + sea halberd would work for him since he is one or maybe two target enemies] EDIT:I guess this is goodbye for him with his fav item concentrate energy cuz he might be lack of sustain [lets not forget physical item spell vamp got slightly nerf because the merge item exist] but i hope moonton give him bit buff or maybe combine his old passive with new one

make his ult like Arlott (and battlespells too what is that unnecessary flameshot “nerf”) where enemy displacement skills also works to reset his passive dash mark.

He functions how Arlott works, but Phoveus is now well works better I guess, they thought well how they will rework his skills, but yeah will see if what adjustments will they do to him next week

Btw if you havent noticed zhask got hidden buff where can use inspire inside his ult. Not possible before

I feel like they should keep the effect where if your teammates move the enemy you can use your ult so he can still work with tanks like Franco tigreal akai etc

0:31 now he looks just like a buffer, older Granger. Such variety options they have *sigh*

Not sure what to feel about this change. His (other) first and second skill scales from physical power but deals magic damage, while first skill and ult deals physical damage, so which kind of penetration does he need? It's confusing The requirements to unlock ult change is good, but the way his cc works looks...weird? Like hororo said, it's not like the true phoveus Overall he's no longer situational which is great, but he could definitely use some more tweaking to his damage output and maybe his cc chain too

I'm a little dissapointed, you can no longer chase enemies down due to the shorter range. He'll be good with heroes who can displace enemies like Akai, Tig, Luo Yi and Badang. But that's about it. He will probably be really broken in 1v1 situations because physical builds increase your basic attacks a ton making items like Endless Battle and Thunder Belt viable for more damage and a consistent slow

I think the best build for him is cdr dmg with at least 1 defence

i honestly dont see an issue with moving him away from being a dash counter with this skill set one he can be picked more overall and these skills also just look better sure its opinionated but his ult being locked mostly behind and enemys input was the main problem most dash counters have skills that can still function without relying on an enemy to dash. minsitthar ult does basic attacks and slows khufra sencond skill gives bonus defense and also slows on top of damaging phoveus had 1 skill to displace for an ult charge and flameshot if you have it not his ult works similar to wanwan it unlocks based on your input. yes current phoveus is satisfying when fighting a hero with dashes but that was his only identity minsi has a hook with good damage from second skill and khufra has nice cc both of these heros while countering dash heros have something else that they can rely on when not facing dash heros could they have kept his ult and made changes to his 2 other skills only sure but when i see these skills i still see phoveus yes its different but the character design is still there just executed differently

I think they can make like his passive now give the enemies mark by itself if they dashed 2 times in 3 second or something. Making him still able to kinda counter dash heroes

Note to the people watching: Phoveus is bugged as of now the obvious is the emblem attributes (as well both first talent slot some 2nd slot talents don't work) doesn't take effect on phoveus Edit: HP from the emblem did carry over but not the damage as of now they verified the bug (Dunno why I wrote this comment)

To be fair, he is kind of niche and too specific to the point where even if the enemy team has a Dasher, this Prancer won't be doing much if that dash isn't frequent enough. We already have someone who can counter dashers and it's Khufra, who is more flexible than Phoveus is by an unfair margin. This rework is definitely needed to make Phoveus more flexible in his role in the game. His combo is a bit tricky, but I feel as though overtime it's only a matter of muscle memory that'll make the mechanics easier to understand.

Idk why "many players" wanted him as physical hero, He's clearly best with a hybird tank and magic build because of his burst abilities.

Everyone be like after seeing Phoveus revamp: I like the old Phoveus

Its better if they change it that when phoveus use skills and hit heroes it can trigger the ult and spam it just like arlott 2nd skill

Good on Phoveous to actually wear pants now 👖

Yep, this one me likey. Just give him the unholy trinity of Assasins and he's good to go. And those numbers sounds too OP, they'll probably nerf those after release, 10.5% target's Max HP in Magic DMG and then another 14% Target's Max HP plus some tiny numbers Phys DMG while you are being CCed to bits, and those are just the late game problems without his 1st, 2nd and a Flameshot. He's no longer just a counter to high mobility heroes, because he'll make sure you have to dash to run away from him and since his passive makes him move faster when you move faster, he will catch up to you then the cycle of pain continues. I want him now Moonton. One weird thing tho, i feel that the 2 stages of his 1st is his built in nerf, since it has the Fighter Syndrome of 4 to 2 second Max Level CD, meaning it will be spammed but due to the 2 stages of it, he can't just keep on pulling everyone to the center of astaros forever/ Slow them significantly aka (50% to at worst 80% Slow). Yeah i want this guy now.

I like this one better to be honest. This will make the champ much more enjoyable and ull feel rewarding when u hit skills to get dash

Idk why Moonton just decided to redesign him like that. I mean the way he looked before was good and different, his has greek name, big muscular man, scary face and a giant morning star ball. That's spartan 300 movie-like character right there. And then moonton just said "nope, we're gonna make him model-like body and a giant ridiculous weapon", bruuh

If I were Moontong, they should revert the anti-dash mechanic in exchange for the enhanced basic attack. The rest are good (especially the no CD ultimate)

This revamp is best. Stop crying. He has tons of cc, healing, shield, mobility. Enemy just blinks one time that lets Phovenus to passive>ult>s1>s2>ult >s1>ult>flameshot>ult

wow the creation team of mlbb is so good i love the new design