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Since young wizards can have outbursts of magic based on an intense desire at the time (like Harry making the glass disappear at the zoo, & historically other fiction books/tv shows with magical kids have called it "wishcraft") I can believe that young Tom was able to temporarily reveal a secret path or such that was magically hidden from muggles. He saw the cave, felt power from it & when he saw no way to get there he instinctively wished to find the way. I just don't get why the other 2 kids willingly were close enough to him to go along. By then didn't he already have a reputation for being trouble? Why were they hanging out with him?🤔
Honestly I think he forced them along as punishment. I don't know what they did, but it seems a pattern for Tom, especially at this point in his life where he lashed out at others who hurt him, so he could hurt them, and craved that sense of power in his life, a life he had very little control over.
I dont think anyone created the inferi, i feel like they were "lost" souls that were trapped in there after being drawn to the cave like tom was but being unable to withstand its dark nature and hence succumbing to being one of the inferi. I feel like tom was just powerful enough at this point to be able to influence this pure dark magic.
I think he also likely taunted them, saying something like. "You'll be silent of this, or I'll bring you back here and let them have you. Assured, it won't be pleasant." Theory: Whoever set up the cave created it to pull in the bodies of those killed in boats or along the edge of the ocean and sea in that area. Over centuries, they would surely pile up, and some sort of standing spell would convert them to Inferii.
This might be more of a quick-take video, but if you haven't already covered it, a video on how Umbridge escaped the centaurs would be cool. Was thinking about it the other day and couldn't remember.
Dumbledore probably went to the Centaur village and goes "Alright guys, you've had your fun. I need the ministry c--t back." And the Centars go "Oh thank the divine. She hasn't stopped screaming since we got here. We hadn't even done anything yet!"
I love your theory! I thought climbing down was scary for the kids but didn't feel that was scary enough to traumatise them. The idea of inferi, however, would be terrifying for anyone to find!!!!!
Or not a single person at the time, which was a much darker point in human history, try to kill him. Yes he was a child, but he showed signs of being a wizard and he tormented other children. Like even the other kids at the orphanage would get tired of the crap eventually and wra him up and toss him in a dump truck to be taken away
The trace that allows the ministry of magic to detect underage magic doesn't go into affect until after you start at Hogwarts. They wouldn't know Tom Riddle is using any magic at all. That's why Harry, and literally every other magical child isn't dealt with by Wizarding governments around the world because they use magic unconsciously, or in a very limited manner.
@@damasek219 Yes, he did. The trace isn't perfect, it just shows that someone used magic at a particular location. In Harry's case, being the only wizard around, when Dobby used magic, the ministry pegged him for being responsible for it. Tom Riddle, however, was extremely intelligent and wouldn't have used it at the orphanage, which would have given him away. If he left the orphanage, which we know he did, they'd only know someone used magic there and wouldn't be able to determine that he'd used it himself. In HBP during Harry and Dumbledore's meetings, I'm pretty sure Harry asks how Riddle was able to get away with using underage magic to kill his father and grandparents, and it was because they couldn't detect who had cast the spells. The ministry simply assumed that Morfin had done it because he 1) had previous interactions with the victims that lead to ministry action, and 2) because his wand had been used to kill them after Riddle took his wand.
@@jlack1985 Sometimes, I mean, very often, Rowling just gets tangled up in her own plot devices. So they'd find the traces of magic at the places where Tom's orphanage was known to send their kids for a leisure time, they'd know that Tom had a history of bullying students and they still didn't figure this out? I get your point from the point of view where you're trying to make some sense out of the story, but anyway, what's the use of the underage magic law when the only places it can be applied is a home of an orphan or a muggleborn kid with no single wizard around and still not accurately at all? No wizard could ever go near any of those places and use any magic without getting an innocent kid sacked. If spells leave traces, then how did no one got to know that Voldemort killed a bunch of people while he was yet a student? It would be extremely easy for students to just commit crimes in the proximity of adults and frame them for it, just like Tom framed Morfin. And how was priori incantatem not a thing back then or when Peter framed Sirius for murdering a whole crowd on the street. Nothing would be easier than to find out that the murdering curse didn't come out of their wands. Even easier with underage magic, just test the kid's wand and see whether the spell came out of it or not, just like they could have done with Harry's wand instead of kicking him out of school twice for no reason. Btw shouldn't Hermione be kicked out of school for deleting her parents' memory just before the last school year started? The owl with a letter should be in their house almost immediately after she did it 😁. What I mean is the whole thing just doesn't make much sense and was there just as the momentary plot device. Not asking you to be the defender of the coherency of the books, just saying for the sake of the conversation.
IDumbledore, as well as others in the magical world, knew full well that the child Tom Riddle had a great deal of magical talent and a talent for bullying other children. And what did they do? Get him magical foster parents? Or put him in an orphanage for the children of wizards and witches? No, they just left him in the orphanage where he was. In retrospect, it was clear that Dumbledore placed Harry with the Dursleys to protect him - even though they treated Harry badly. But Tom Riddle 50 years earlier, Dumbleore just shrugged him off and left him where he was. The impression remains that child welfare does not play a major role in the Wizarding World outside of Howarts, and that Dumbledore, who himself had a problematic family, was not very interested either.
That's kind of a trait of Dumbledore though, he is so focused on how brilliant he is that he ignores everything else, I mean the most notable moment of this was when his negligence caused the death of his sister.
Noting that these events occurred when Tom was a child, the cave could've been accessible on foot. It looks like the sea level might have covered what was previously a beach also.
He got into their minds. Like he did to Harry. Then unleashed all their fears That was his signature torture move in the first war. He'll torture them until they beg for death.
Solid theory. Curious at what point have the inferi decayed so much that their bodies are useless? After how long ? Voldemort probably added many more to the cave as well
I wonder if having recent Muggle blood is more beneficial in the sense of being more magically powerful. Bellatrix was obviously a powerful full blood & we do not know what Grindelwald's blood status was. Dumbledore, Voldemort (the two most powerful), Snape & McGonagall were immensely powerful half-bloods & I'm sure there were many more.
is it something you are born with. like some people are good at math. i could study all day and night and i would never be top of the class. so is a lot of it natural ability
This would make a really good video. I think Tom heard about the existence of the chamber and decided to conduct his own search for it. I wonder if it's possible that this is how Tom first discovered his heritage and his connection to Salazar Syltherin.
I might have a thought to this theory, what if he made the door to keep the Inferi and his Horcrux in the cave. He knew somehow someone might figure out his Horcrux and being the paranoid bastard that he was, put it there for safe keeping.
This I think is a very accurate and logical description of what might have happened. That would terrify and traumatize anybody, let alone two small young children.
My guess is that the cave was enchanted or cursed by some previous witch or wizard and anyone who dies in the water will turn into an Inferius. Perhaps because the waters near the cave are so dangerous, many boats crashed and the people either ended up there as bodies, or they sought shelter in the cave and ended up dying. While Voldemort was very evil and powerful, I don't think he created all of those Inferi either.
So with this theory comes a continuation of which old dark wizard put them there... The creator of Inferi perhaps? Also usually when wizards do a thing or have a place they mask it from muggle eyes under illusion charms so I'm super curious if that wizard may have put illusion charms on that cave to keep muggles away but if they followed Tom I would really be curious what they may have seen if there was indeed illusion charms going on
Such a cool theory! Totally agree that the Inferi were already there, makes total sense. Technically, they are STILL there!!! Dumbledore’s ring of fire only enabled them to escape, he didn’t kill many, or even any of them, being undead already. One of their number was Regulus Black. Remember when dumbledore criticized Voldemort’s “rude”price of entry, blood? That could also have already been there. I always thought the two kids were forced somehow, but it’s always really bothered me ever since I read it the first time. I thought he had maybe seen a craggy, narrow way that cut down the cliff face, one you’d have to be standing on top of to see it. Or he found another way, which he later destroyed.
My theory: it was the dominion of an ancient dark wizard. He got inspiration from the myth of Sirens. He bewitched the area to sink ships, lure shipwrecked sailors into their doom, then turn them into Inferi through drowning in the water in the cave. Either to raise an army of Inferi over time without personally being there, or to merely test a theory about some Dark Magic. Maybe to guard a treasure hidden on the island. Whatever his goal was, he probably died before he could see the results. Regular routes of ships changed over time, and the lake got no new resources. However, the "on condition" spells were still active, like dying in the lake automatically casting the Raise Inferi curse on the victim, or Launch The Army upon the water being touched. The island in the middle of the lake being a safe vault was either an unintentional result which Voldemort used, or the island always had a treasure hidden which he never discovered.
My personal theory on how the inferii got there was it was an ancient dwelling of a dark wizard. Muggles would show up in search of power and the wizard would steal the soul of them leaving a withered husk only capable of basic instinct and bewitched. Over time the bodies decayed but they were cursed to immortality where they could never die since their souls would be forever bound to the place. I don't even think they were dark creatures, they'd sense when a living soul touched the water where they layed dormant, waiting for a soul to save them and unknowingly would curse whomever passed there due to a curse on the water itself. I could see the dark wizard giving them a potion that was made with that water along with a bewitching potion mixed in as an offshoot of a love potion that lasted indefinitely. "Drink this potion and serve me, I will grant you eternal life. Protect this place and you shall have all the glory of my kingdom that you will help me to obtain. All who touch my eaters shall be brought to me, and you will be promised everlasting glory." And then one day a hero came, slew the dark wizard, possibly a good wizard or maybe even another dark wizard and dumped the body in to the waters below. Now the inferii, who stay bound to their task, bring the living soul to the bottom to await a judgement that both never comes and is certain. A scourge army of undead, forever in service of their master's will. Neither evil nor good, with no soul or sense of right and wrong, damned until the curse is broken. Only a dark wizard as powerful as Voldemort would be able to have some control over them, or maybe he just used fiend fire to push them back to place the hoarcrux and charmed she'll and bowl to make it a monstrously difficult task. That's just my theory on the inferii in the cave, I think Tom was just a little too good at not feeling the pressure and held on to that memory in order to hide the locket, easy to find yet extraordinary levels of difficulty to obtain
With Grendelwald coming from Durmstrang, I find it hard to believe that he didn't know what the resurrection stone actually did. Dumbledore knew what the stone actually did. 🤔Then again, Grendelwald was expelled before graduating, so maybe he missed that lesson. Lol tho Dumbledore was in love with him and wanted power during that time period, I doubt he would have told Grendelwald how to make inferi.
Caves are mysterious and dark. A lot of myths about caves show a dark omnibus feel. Aztec lore has many caves which harbor evil. Just up to individual imagination to explore and grow from own point of view.
Yeah, I didn't think he killed all of the people represented by the number of inferi in that cave. Not because he isn't evil enough, but I'm not sure he had the opportunity. I agree that he found the cave already stocked, and possibly added a few, but I don't think he started the "collection". I think he found another past wizard's army in there and took charge of them.
The reason they were struck silent and horrified was because Tom told them where babies came from in extreme clinical detail. Their poor child minds were not prepared for such a revelation.
In the harry potter franchise I think that Amy Benson and Denis bishop went with tom to the cave and saw something so scary that scared them too the point where they can't say what it was that they saw that scared them into silence with the exception of the line that they whent to a cave with tom would be my guess
Inferies were one of voldemorts weapons during the first wizarding war, I don’t think they were already in the cave, I think he placed them in the cave to protect the locket horcrux
Maybe it was put there by like say, Herbert the Foul or whoever, and they had an disillusionment charm put on the cave and no wizard until Riddle showed up did it reveal itself or no one wanted to try to get to it. But a charm to protect from muggle or wizard eyes until Riddle. Like only a worthy Evil person can see it.
Plot Twist: All of the Inferi were created by Ekrizdis himself, before he created the Dementors on the island that would be the place upon which Azkaban's prison was built.
I'm not a child anymore but a grown woman and if I had to witness sth like that, I'd be traumatized for the rest of my life. Perhaps not if I was to fignt them, but being only able to witness...
Unless the creator of powerful dark magic uses certain precautions like _magical devices,_ don't most spells and such break when they die? Those Inferi should have just rotted away after the death of their former master; they were never alive to begin with. They didn't breed or anything by themselves. Even the powerful concealing spells around Azkaban's original creator finally broke when he died.
So basically you think Amy and Dennis witnessed the Inferi. Highly plausible as I don't know what else could have scare them so badly. I doubt it was Nagini but it could have been. Here is the problem- I thought Tom created the Inferi. If he hasn't than that must have been the case, and I guess that as a child or even as adult they would have scared the shit out of me. The fact that Tom didn't have a wand at the time didn't matter. Because as proven countless times- Wandless and even non verbal magic is just as possible to create and it will be equally good if the wizard/witch are talented. That is to me the indication of a talented magical person- Can cast any spell with no wand and no words. Anybody who can't do that is not talented enough.
@@ShiroiTengu Is that so? Because he told Dumbledore that he can talk to Snakes. They find him. What if Nagini found him? There is no indication when he really met her. We assume it was in the Albanian Forest. I even say I doubt it was Nagini and more likely the Inferi.
@@Jakekingoff You mean against Grindelwald right? Most likely she didn't know him from his childhood. However by the time he was 11 she was already in Snake form. It would be nice of the FB franchise to tell us more about Nagini. Like for example- How did she made the journey from France to Albania or the UK even. How? It bugs my mind they never explained it. Look at the size of her as a Snake. I doubt she can hide. I think she got caught and transferred from zoo to zoo while they thought she is a normal Snake. Until one day she escaped and found her way to the forest.
@@Jakekingoff I understood the theory thank you. It was most likely the Inferi although he is supposed to be their creator. Or maybe he simply improved them with time. Like I said if I was a small kid and I saw these motherfuckers I would be scared to death as well. Even as an adult I would be scared but I would get over it. They remind me the Atlantians Skullmaster screwed in Mighty Max if you saw. They were scary too and similar in appearance to the Inferi.
But if that is true that the cave was near Azkaban, it maybe weren’t Inferi. What evil was always in Azkaban that can make you relive your darkest times and can scare someone more then anything else in the world and it might even eat your soul, right I am sure you already know, I am talking about dementors! That could’ve been the evil that scared the kids for life. And also no muggle would’ve ever believed the kids, so it was easy for Voldemort to silence the kids forever!
Very creative theory! I never thought about it, but it must not have been anything that was too much of Tom's fault, or at least the kids didn't know for sure if it was his fault. He wasn't powerful enough yet and he was smart enough to stay quiet about what happened, so he must've been smart enough to not initiate something that would endanger his future because of something he did to the others. That's a good way to explain every factor!
The inferi could have been bodies of the innocents that were disposed off during a tragic event like the Bubonic plague or people massacred during the Witch Trials.
I didn’t think it was anything in the cave. I think it was how he got them to the cave. He had to get them there somehow. He must have used levitation or something just as scary.
Maybe he hurt one of the other kids, and they bled enough to open the cave? A series of unfortunate coincidences, Tom and the two kids get separated from the group, he maybe hits one of them into the cliff face, and it just happens to be where the cave is located, and it opens. Idk
I've always wondered if Tom deliberately killed Myrtle since, based on her description of her death, it sounds like he didn't even know she was there and she just stumbled on to him opening the Chamber.
I considered this but... if the Inferi were drawn to magic, they should've been drawn to Dumbledore, too. But... you do have a point about killing people i close proximity and then moving them to a cave so pointlessly. I think Tom probably didn't do anything to them, they just saw several bodies of people who failed to make it to the cave. Tom probably animated them in some small sense. That'll traumatize anyone.
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Just gonna say, magic or not, orphan kids would have killed riddle. I know he's "powerful" but nothing's a ruthless as a bunch of kids who feel u loved. Kid wouldn't been wrapped in a blanket and beaten regularly while he slept. These kids have nothing to lose. They would have crushed him
Haven’t been around for some time but weren’t you planning to produce a “origine story”? Why would you tell us your thoughts about it and don’t just show it in an episode?
5:04 I wish Rowling would do this more often; let fans interpret the lore how they want instead of all this after-the-fact crap that she pulls. I'm a strong believer in Death of the Author, so if I ever get my own stories published, I plan to do this.
Wait a sec.! I thought that the creator of this channel 8 days earlier suggested that Voldemort did create the Inferi himself and now he says that they were there all along? Did I miss something?🤨
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