[Review #2] Let's connect the Groove Coaster Controller to PC. 

Thank you!

i hope i have one of this

wow UnseenGaming is so cool

@@HIHIMEschannel how much will it cost if i buy this???

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cVn9mhNkhxA.html (11: 00) I donno if there's any change of price recently.

Thank you! But I really don't have any Android devices so I can't do that. Also I think the settings will be very complicated so I will not make a video for that.

I'd prefer something that harder than these two. Anyway thanks for watching!

Thank you! Also thanks for subscribing!

Oh that's great. But I recommend you to get the game and try the game first using joy-cons or other handheld controllers. If you feel really good about the game then buy the controller afterwards. Anyway thanks for watching!

@@HIHIMEschannel No Problem! And yeah for now, I will just play using the joy-cons or the pro controller, I don't think I am that expert enough to be investing in an actual controller which costs a ton hahaha

That's also a good choice. You can still enjoy the game no matter you buy the controller or not. Joy-cons or pro controllers are also fun.

うんうん便利ですね こちらこそご視聴ありがとうございます！

ご視聴ありがとうございます！

But the input delay is worse than all the controllers I have used, even though it is a wired controller. For the key remapping I understand. But first I cannot find any instructions about how to remap the keys (at least they should tell me what are the corresponding PS3 keys for each button/direction so I can remap easily.) I can do it by myself but I think not all players know how to find that. Second I think at least they should map the centre key to the START button but not SELECT button. Also I have spent about half an hour to get FC on CYBER Sparks due to some failure from the controller. Such as over scratching problem and sometimes the slides will not be recognised and cause MISS. Those problems will not happen in Arcade.

Um... because the game is not popular so almost no one wanna make GC controllers and sell in the market. This one in the video is the only one right now.

@@HIHIMEschannel That's such a shame! I'm eagerly awaiting the day gamo or someone makes one. Love GC and really want a perfect solution for playing at home!

By the way I am still thinking to buy Gamo2 K28 or not. That obviously not a Groove Coaster controller but I think it's a good controller for aiming high score.

@@HIHIMEschannel Hey me too! I have a Logitech G513 with RomerG (I think?) blue switches at the moment, and the switches are nice, but Respect V 8B layout is not very comfortable... I hope you try the K28, curious to know a high level players opinion. :)

That's the brand icon from the manufacturer.

誒...我忘記了還有USB線壞了的可能性耶... 如果不求分數只是想在家體驗AC的話，那真的是值得去買的。 p.s. 如上次的影片所說我那箱是附有六角扳手和USB線，但是附贈那個扳手質素有點差，完全用不起來， 幸好之前買屏幕支架的時候有附一個質素好一點的扳手，用這就輕鬆扭開螺絲了。

搖桿哪裡買qwq

不用XD 如果你打算玩高難易度的曲子的話，我建議你再等下一條影片然後再決定哦。 (應該沒那麼快吧大概下個星期或者下下個星期...)

沒心情弄 不過簡單用文字來說，就真的不建議拿這去玩高難易度，特別是PC版。

@@ketw09 原來是這樣阿 我跟你剛相反，我去年七月AC退坑了。現在只玩剩下的三個家用版本。 順帶一提我也投了不少錢。

@@ketw09 Steam版其實真的是失敗作(個人感觀)，而且你覺得抓不到判定是正常的，而且不只你有這個問題，我也有，很多人都有。 倒是AC就弄得比較出色，最近營運團隊都是集中發展在Switch和AC上。

@@ketw09 那說不定手機版會比較適合你哦。 有剩錢就去買曲包，一個曲包大概160左右(大概吧，台灣的appstore我不是太了解)

正解です IKEAのサメです

@@HIHIMEschannel ですよねw あと動画を見ててすっごくわくわくしました！

HIHIME: **can't find any GC controllers other than that one**

好的我會打一下。不過我應該還會找些更加困難的曲子。

HIHIME's channel 加油～

多分無理

Thanks for watching. If you feel uncomfortable when holding joy-cons then you can think about pro controller or something similar. Or you can try to place your Switch/joy-cons on table and tap it using your index/middle fingers. If your hands feel okay during playing but you still got a lot of COOLs or GOODs, you can try to pay attention to those COOLs / GOODs are FAST or SLOW. If "most of them are FAST" or "most of them are SLOW" then you can readjust the offset. But if the amount of FAST and SLOW are similar, I guess that's because your accuracy are not good enough. In this case you can try to play more and see if the problem is improved or not.

So would Mr. Yuan please teach us how to release the voltage in the controller? As I'm just a normal rhythm game player but I know nothing about the electric stuffs inside the controller (And I think many of my viewers are also that kind of people). It's great if you can share some method as simple and safe as possible. Also it will be grateful if you can also tell me is there any way to switch off the RGB.

@@HIHIMEschannel first, sorry i have bad english ,i'll make a short video to show how to turn off the RGB and i don't know it works or not just try . i'm not a pro GC player

謝謝，那是很有名的IKEA鯊魚，挺可愛的。

Yes it's very bad. Especially the diagonal slide (↖↗↙↘) there's a small chance that the controller doesn't successfully read your input and finally get a MISS.

HIHIME's Channel thank you! i bought one, it's an updated version with fix for input lag. waiting to get it probably this week. i'll comment if it misses the diagonal arrows too.

Update, I know why you miss diagonal arrows randomly. the arrow button works like the joystick (on an arcade fightstick) there are 4 inputs below; up down left right, to get a diagonal eg. ➘ you have to press down+right input buttons. if your input is slightly inaccurate you will hit down or right BEFORE hitting both together. the problem is, in arcade machine making NG input on arrow does not affect the hit. on steam/switch, arrow input is also button input. so for NG input on diagonal arrow the game will detect as if you pressed middle button therefore a miss. Also for the spiral notes I realise we need to release early before the note ends or else the upcoming normal notes would be "Good". Yuan said the input lag is fixed but i had to adjust offset about -1 more than what it was on keyboard. Overall still decent controller I think it's worth it. Most of it is a problem with the game having arrow input detect as button input.

夜牙 最簡單的方法就是拿一台手機拍下玩的情況 然後再看到底是快了還是慢了

去Google「Groove Coaster Controller」就能找到相關的訂購網站了。 一個牌子是G字頭的，另一個是Y字頭的，不過兩個送過來都款是一樣的。 再不然去淘寶搜尋「Groove Coaster 手台」， 可能會便宜一點。 詳細的資訊可以參考一下上一條影片(連結在影片描述內有寫)。

Xbox Adaptive Controller Xbox 無障礙控制器 可以參考一下

誒等下你有弄控制器？ 是自製的嗎？有市售嗎？ 不過抱歉你說的東西看起來有點複雜我有點不太懂...

@@HIHIMEschannel 我的是訂製控制器，只是構造的藍本是Xbox無障礙控制器而已

喔喔...那個就超出我的知識範圍了。

IKEA那部份是答對的， 不過其實是鯊魚。

HIHIME's channel 最近海豚在做特價 入手了一隻😂

River Su Wo 謝謝觀看！所以我上一個影片和這個影片才不斷說這控制器的延遲相當嚴重，要買的人要做好心理準備。 如果你打算放上Switch，可以透過遊戲的Setting上修改判定值(詳細方法我在上一個影片有做過)來解決。Switch上修改判定值的方式有點麻煩，因為不能手動調整判定數值，你可能需要在判定測試中故意打慢一點來取得理想的數值。調完判定後可能也要把SFX(特效音)音量調至零才會有理想效果。 如果不懂用那個判定測試的話可以再等多一兩個星期，官方早前說過會有更新，可以手動調整判定。

@@HIHIMEschannel 賣家有給我系統自動切換 之前卡在別的版本 所以超級異常延遲 剛剛才給的 我目前只有Steam版的 等於說就是還是要熟悉一下這個的感覺 不要被街機帶走就是了 照您的調法是好很多了 Pc上這樣調整應該是沒有解了吧

PC也可以調，本影片的8:23有說。 不過因為PC版有點雞肋，只能調「判定」而不能調「聲畫延遲的修正」，所以如果因為控制器的延遲問題嚴重而導致把這個數值調得太多的話，玩起來會有點怪怪的(例如ad-lib的聲音延遲，或者聲音或影像其中一個與譜面位置不同步)。 或者像你所說，真的不要把AC的那一套直接用在這個控制器上。

大致上了解 非常感謝 冒昧問一下Steam跟Switch這二個版本音樂上哪個數量多 歌曲差不多嗎 Steam DLC幾乎都是東方居多

不用。樂曲數量方面Switch比Steam多很多(預設曲就100首比58首，DLC曲就110比103，而且Switch本月尾還會再有新曲包)。另外Steam主要是東方和原創曲為主但是沒V家，Switch就東方、V家和Anime&Pops也有不少。 但是要留要一下，Steam版的譜面跟PC和AC是一樣的，但是Switch版可能因為要考慮手持控制器比較難控制的關係，譜面大多都會改簡單了一點點。