Funny that you said they made the grille larger to look more muscular like the 2500 because as soon as I started watching, I thought, "man, this thing is boarder-line suv/crossover looking now."
@thomaslee6894 yeahhh that's what it is. I didn't even notice that at first, but I googled the truck to see it in some lighter colors and it's very noticeable now. Looks like a Grand Cherokee
Agreed. It makes me super sad as a long time Dodge/Ram owner to say that I would no longer consider the Ram because it doesn't offer a V8. I grew up with trucks having V8s and any truck that didn't have one wasn't a REAL truck. Maybe I'd start considering if I get behind the wheel and liked how it drove but at the end of the day, nothing is going to outlast a V8. I know the Hemis had issues but a lot of that can be attributed to the stupid cylinder deactivation and the engine has been put long enough to where we know what to expect and know the remedies for potential problems. I doubt that this Hurricane will ever come close to the reliability and longevity of the old LA/Magnum 5.2/5.9 Dodge engines or the GM 350 5.7 and 5.3 V8s of 20+ years ago. Manufacturers aren't even trying to hide the fact that they're making vehicles meant to last no longer than 7-10 years and it shows with all these new turbocharged engines. I hope that I'm wrong honestly as only time will tell if these Hurricane engines will come anywhere close to the reliability and ease of maintenance of the old school V8s.
@roni2971 Hello your right about that they should have keep the Hemi V8 engines ,or least they should have been Developing a good brand new V8 engine that would have met all the EPA requirements !!! This Company should have never merged with Stellantis at all and they will loss a lot of there customers for this dumb decision 🤢🤢🤮🤮🗑🗑🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️👎👎👎
Ford sells the most trucks with V6. A straight 6 turbo is 100 times better. Dodge will take customers from Ford. Only thing you lose is V8 sound. V8 was slow and problematic.
Owned three rams and 2 tundra’s but their won’t be four Rams in my driveway not at those prices sold my 2019 Ram Limited during covid made 12k profit was planning to by another, if I had any idea the prices was going to be so high I would have kept it. Never will I pay those prices and I can but I wont. I can live with the turbos and a V six but I don’t tow I just like the leg room and my Home Depot runs so back to a SUV still a great channel Matt.
I understand that engine technology has advanced enough that half-ton trucks don't really need V8s. But still, it's a sad reminder of how naturally aspirated internal combustion engines will eventually be a thing of the past.
Exactly. All trailer trucks have straight 6 turbo engines. Fords best engine was a straight 6. Dodge just slappped Ford in the face with this. Ford will design a straight 6 now. Mazda just went straight6 too. Way better than electric. V8 just had the sound. That’s it. All bark and no bite.
@@drunkpolack7612 No I'm more a huge fan of reliability and longevity and plus the vicious sound you get from a V8 as well. Also if the EcoBoost engines are so good then howcome Ford stiff uses the 5.0L Coyote V8 in the Mustang GT and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor 3.5L EcoBoost V6? Also if the EcoBoost is so good then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
We barely ever see turbos blow. It’s such a simple design. Technology has come a long way these days. Engines are built for boost these days. These will be easier to work on than a V8. Years ago, turbo engines were not designed for turbo pressure. These days, it’s easy to build an engine designed for turbos. New technology Head gaskets are built to handle that high boost with ease. The placement of the turbos and secondary water cooling is a huge bonus here.
@ryanb8736 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have fun in you're overpriced modern vehicle till it breaks and costs you an arm and a leg to replace the turbo
Vehicle prices are out of control. More vehicles that will sit on dealer lots until these manufacturers get in sync with reality. $90k is not realistic for the vast majority of people.
It's the top trim model showcasing Ram tech and luxury. The mass market 1500 wont have all the toys but be priced competitively. The average price of an auto is now $50k so dont expect a $40k half ton.
Typically i would be saying the same. But i did work at a chrysler dealership and the hurricanes did great in the wagoneer.. as far as the tech. We all complained when we went from cassettes to cd's. Better is better, more hoarse is more hoarse, and better mpg is better mpg.. im gonna miss the hemi sound but the standard version of the hurricane already puts out way bigger numbers than the hemi and with the cheap gas... and better mpg... as time goes on we all will deal with change... so far its a win win for us... accept for price...
Rugged good looks….Im talking about Matt AND the truck. Keep the beard brother, it looks good! Front end of the truck looks so much better and makes it look lighter.
@@ryanb8736 if done right absolutely it can be a great platform however Peugeot Fiat and Chrysler don’t have the best reputation for reliability and for guys like me who use trucks to work we demand decent reliability
These trucks are junk. Now they’re just bigger junk. Heavy vehicles with six cylinder engines or even four-cylinder engines is garbage. the engines just won’t last.
It’s cheaper than the 5.7 the hell?? The 5.7 was a $3k option!! The I6 is about $2,300 for the S.O. In other trims. This H.O is standard in the Tungsten which is a new trim that has more on top of the limited.
The Standard Output Hurricane matches it on horsepower and has 9 more lb/ft of torque, and then the high output version does 120 more hp and 61 more lb/ft of torque.
This high output v6 is gonna be so un reliable with twin turbos. I can smell the future. 😂 dont get me wrong, Iown a Limited and I love my RAM. But give me the HEMI with this new look.
I love my Dodges Plymouth Chrysler DESOTO Diveco Mopar all the way but no beamer or Audi or vw no V8 no truck buying for me there price Gouged an no V8 I will not buy till ii see on V8 is America
I have 2 problems with this truck, The Lack of front steel bumper & front tow hooks, I understand this is a luxury truck but it’s still a truck nonetheless.
getting rid of the work horse Hemi that will get better gas mileage then these twin turbo six bangers that need premium fuel? Nope, nope, hell no. I bet they break way more then the Hemi.
13:49 lol 😂 honestly I've found a lot of EV drivers love to race people, with their instant torque they usually win. I got smoked by a Volvo C40 recharge the other day, had me questioning my life.
I mean, you drive a Pontiac Grand AM. Anything could ‘smoke’ your car bro. A Volvo Recharge is in the same league as the Model 3 Dual motor without the acceleration boost add-on. It’s pretty quick for a heavy SUV.
Awesome review, Matt! The new update is amazing. This thing is like the Rolls-Royce of the segment. Sad to hear that the Hemi is dead, but that I6 is a great upgrade.
Right because any modern vehicle out of warranty is so much more affordable to fix? That and NA engines can be just as problematic. GMs 6.2 is in literal crisis right now it's such a piece of garbage.
@TomazHilton A big Horn with any options will cost close to 65k... so they are all over priced. You could get a Laramie 3 years ago fully loaded for 45k. That same truck is now 75k.
I purchased my 2020 RAM 1500 Limited with a Hemi and every option for 62K. I absolutely LOVE my truck and I keep up with all the scheduled maintenance & change the oil before the truck says it's due. No more V-8s offered means I'm keeping her for a long time and I'm OK with that.
@@DiaperSNiFFER Exactly. In a year, these trucks will be huge talk. Ford will lose a lot of sales. Dodges only problem is price. Their prices spiked really high.
The PROBLEM with these small high strung turbo engines is this: 1. V8 engines don’t have to work as hard as these small turbo engines. These engines driving it daily are already MAXED OUT. If you use the truck to WORK…that small engine has to work even HARDER to keep up. How long is that motor going to last? The big V8 has room to do more without maxing it out. 2. With V8 you can use 87 Octane gas at the pump…..which is SUBSTANTIALLY less expensive than 93 or 91 octane. So basically the proposed better MPG the 6 cylinder turbo is supposed to deliver….is OFFSET by the higher price you’re paying at the pump for Premium fuel. When you fill up you’re now going to pay $4 to $5 per gallon when the V8 is under $3/ga.
Most trucks are used as passenger cars not work vehicles. So the six cylinder can easily handle the workload. Climate change is real and more important than V8 vanity.
My Ford eco boost V6 takes 87 octane and it is not working hard most of the time. It is not in boost most of the time. I barely have to breath on the gas pedal during normal driving. It has way more low end torque than the V8 which I also test drove
The PROBLEM with your logic is it is ridiculous. These engines are nothing new. Explain to me why GMs 6.2 is a literal ticking time bomb right now. That's an NA tried and true engine that is now wicked unreliable. The idea that FI applications are just inherently unreliable is hilarious. This idea that truck buyers are just big bad towing dudes looking to pull their bobcat on a steel trailer 500 miles per day is so funny. The extreme majority of buyers are driving it as a normal car less than 30 miles/day towing nothing, and they maybe tow their camper or boat a handful of times in a year.
Beautiful truck no doubt. Ram needed to do something dramatic to bolster sales and reduce time on dealer lots. I wish they would've kept the HEMI or maybe messaged it a bit to increase mileage and power (easier said than done buy I don't see Ford or GM dropping their V8s...yet) and despite the New Hurricane engine that is no doubt more powerful and efficient, I feel that they're falling behind in regards to transmissions as GM and (I think?) Ford offers a 10 speed in their 1500s. Hopefully Ram sells a lot of these as I've been a big Dodge/Ram/Chrysler guy all my life and want to see them live on. The Hurricane has all the numbers and the efficiency but only time will tell if they're durable, I'm excited to see how they've held up after real world use for a couple years. Sadly I don't see myself buying one (even if I could afford one 😅) because I'm a die hard V8 guy and have not seen any other engine design be as durable and perform strong longer in trucks.
There are so many people still talking about no V8 in the Raptor anymore, they will more than likely still be talking about no more V8 in the Ram for several more years probably.
The interior of the Tungsten is phenomenal but they should have put the ram head on the tailgate in chrome and they should have raised the horsepower and torque up on a revised version of the Hemi V8 to 600HP/600FTLBS that would have been a better option than the straight six cylinder turbo engine
My experience. 2019 Longhorn 4WD w/ air suspension 275 passenger and 3:21; 19-20mpg. 2022 Longhorn 4WD ORP w/o air suspension and 3:73 275AT 14-15 mpg. Both regular fuel
No V8 NO business..simple lol ram.will learn fast when these don't sell. They didn't pay attention to Ford pushing these 4 bangers and evs in trucks lol
That straight 6 is a much more sophisticated powertrain. You'll never get the low end torque and driveability out of a V8 that you'll get from a twin turbo straight 6. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't driven one. Inline 6 sounds a lot better than a V6 although it is no v8. I think once people drive them, they won't miss the v8 anymore unless all you want is v8 sound. It will be better with towing, easier to scoot around traffic, and will make it hard to be happy going back to a V8. Will it be as reliable? We'll see.
I have nothing against a i6. Just as any engine, it's about who makes them. The french/Italian companies don't quite have a reputation of dependable engines. My family worked for and have owned/ still own chrysler products especially they're truck models. Which one of them reached 30 years old. It's sad how they're becoming more and more "european". (I understand things needed to happen for chrysler to "survive" but still)
Sound is a big one but also reliability. Not that 5.7 hemi was the most reliable engine out there but once you add forced induction, you kill reliability. Toyota is having issues with their turbo tundras. Fords riddled with problems. Now you’re throwing a stelantis I6 into a ram. Goodluck
I said many years ago, if truck companies want reliability, they need to go straight 6 turbo. Ford had a straight 6 that was a legend in 80’s and 90’s. I had over 298k on mine. Had a manual too. It’s the most balanced engine design. That’s why trailer trucks all have straight 6 turbos.
@@marcdelgado393A straight 6 forced induction is way more balanced than a V6. A V, you have tugging left to right. A straight, you have precision going up and down in an extremely backed cycle. The secret is longer block with larger pistons. Thats why trailer trucks are able to go 5 million miles. Balance and precision.
Thanks for the concise review. Based on this, I still say that if you want a RAM with a turbocharged six, get a 2500 Tradesman WITH A CUMMINS for this kind of money if you want to OWN it for longer than the warranty coverage.
The Sea Salt Interior in the Tungsten is too kill for! My neighbor ordered a 2025 Tungsten last week and has had it with his 2022 Ford F150 Platnium (10-speed transmission) problems.
I test drove a 24 and 25 Limited and they did not scream quality to me. I do love the way they look. But coming from a High Country and currently Platinum I wasn't feeling it.
