Wildcard I don't think anyone else in the rugby world would've cottoned on to that stop clock anomaly. You've created a perfect storm that highlights your passion for the game - big props!
I'm confused as to why you are confused as to why they stopped the clock. The ref does not refference the television clock. They are meant to stop the clock according to the rules of the game. He has One minute to kick and they knew at what point he signaled to the posts and could likely hear the ref say " 10 more seconds". Most times they simply change the game time afterwards but this time they choose to pause it. I would be more concerned if they kept the clock going as the Abs were ahead and ideally wanted the clock to run out. So they did the right thing
Goeie dag Wildcard! Well spotted! I bet you if they end up investigating it, they will blame it on “technical issues”😂 With regards to the match, nobody expected that type of flat performance from NZ as they almost always perform at the highest standard and thats the problem for them, no room for excuses. Keep up the good show sir! 👊🏻
For the AB's to be outplayed and still find a way to win is just AB's of old that's why they're the best. Can't wait to see them put it all together. Go The Mighty All Blacks!
In the end, I think England will leave the happier side even though they lost, no one expected England to salvage a one point loss in New Zealand and in my opinion that is a big achievement. However Razor’s team has only been together for 10 days and England had basically a warmup match and have had Steve Borthwick for ages and NZ will get better in a week so I don’t think England will draw the series. Also the bench won the game for NZ, they had so much experience on that bench and throughout the game dominated the scrum, but their line out was ok. So in summary England has a positive to take away, but Razor’s team will grow and will win the series for NZ.
You're right. As an England fan i'm happy with that performance. But ultimately with a new coach and the win NZ should be too. Both sides should be quite happy. It just sets up for an exciting second game where both teams will be trying to change what they felt let them down in this game. New Zealand is the most daunting place to go and play rugby, theres a reason they don't lose at home. England are still also in a transition from the world cup when Borthwick and Felix jones took over and they did say it would take a good 15-20 games to implement all their coaching, we're not even close to the 20 games yet and we're starting to see the defence come into its own. Then the same can be said for New Zealand, new head coach and there will be new coaching ideas and plans which will take time to implement to 100%. So overall i'm happy. Looking forward to the next one!
There will come a day when England will have to win games to say they’re achieving something. ABs just deserved to win, lots of mistakes on both sides but I think the ABs will improve more than England next week.
@@davidwalker2402 they've won 4 of their last 5 matches. Including a win vs Ireland and a loss last minute penalty vs France? Two of the best sides in the world right now. What are you talking about come a day when England will have to win games? Why can't people just appretiate a good test match without having to bash teams at the same time?
@@hithere3035Ignore the haters. I'm a Springbok fan and England has got me fired up, they're back to their good standard mostly. Still some way to go but that's an achievement nonetheless
Itoje was absolute nuisance.He nearly single handily beat the All Blacks. Cunningham-South is good player.This is very good England team. The rush defence was causing all sorts of problems for the All Blacks. The All Blacks should of played Fiji first before playing England. The All Blacks bench won them the game.Remember this was the All Blacks first game in 8 months.
Well spotted detective Wildkard. I was not as observant as you. I thought England should of won. If they had just put that extra effort in to win the game, then I am sure they could of sneaked a win. Thank you Wildkard great analysis. Rugby vibe here in South Africa for the game later today.
Wildkard that’s not the stadium clock mate that’s the broadcast clock which isn’t always spot on, like when the clock says 79:50 but the siren goes! Because it’s not always perfectly synced with the officials! Nice try at a conspiracy theory though! You’ll definitely get the idiots yapping
the stadium clock is actually independent. the time they use is actually the display on screen, its communicated to the TV station from the referee mic.
None of this makes any sense. It's 2024 and the game clocks should be able to be synced. We should be able to have a shot clock in stadium and via broadcast. We have the technology, it should be used.
@@garethpearce5255 you’d think so but broadcasting for rugby is pretty slack in that department, it actually happens in lots of games but people don’t notice it because it’s usually not at a moment like a penalty kick!
NZ were lucky. England played them off the pitch for much of the game. The introduction of the bench took too much momentum away from England, especially with Spencer slowing everything down to a walking pace. So a New Zealander tried to cheat and it ended up costing a kick at goal? That's called karma...
Well done to Southern Hemisphere teams...clean sweep today..we are loyal to SouthernHemisphere teams. Bokke do not disappoint.. VIVA Southern Hemisphere teams...VIVA AMABOKKE VIVA THE G.O.A.TS
@@garethpearce5255 the official game clock is kept by the officiating team, the broadcast just goes off of what they are saying, thats why you will sometimes hear the siren blast a few seconds before or after 80:00 mins. its close but its not exact and its not what the officials go off of.
@@Freshman704 that's what I'm saying, why would the broadcasters have a different time to the officials. Wouldn't they just synch the clocks? Seems simple.
Wow what a tight performance by the Mighty All Blacks! Firstly: Fair play to England, for bringing the heat to us, and for hanging in there right to the bitter end, but just felt short. Secondley, I think Sevu Reece/Ardie Savea and Stephen Profeta played awesome last night. I thought Damien Mckenzie was a bit rusty with 3 miss shots out of 2 that he eventually landed. Lastley, I thought Damien McKenzie started his approach to the ball, but before he was about to run to kick the ball the referee stopped it. Also at the post-match interviews, Damien thinks there needs to be a shot clock at the Stadium, for him to be able to know how much seconds he has got. I hope TJ Paranara gets better in time for the 2nd test Match against England in Eden Park, Auckland.
yeah but the referee was telling dmac he had 10 seconds left and he probably didn hear him. still it could have been the difference between winning and losing
I totally agree with the white collar. Flapping all over the place. The All Blacks I always identify as a slick looking rugby team. This is not the case.
@@petewisdom1984 adidas changes the design every year - they are never exactly the same - the worst jersey they ever wore was the 2007 RWC - horrible two tone silver and black - not the best design this year a bit too quaker looking for me - the original rugby jersey had a while collar as did all rugby jerseys back then
Totally agree with you, I've never been convinced DMac is a valid option at International level. He's too weak to make line breaks against powerful packs and too often ends up, like you said, out of options and flapping around like a headless chook!
I seem to recall at least one instance of a kick being stopped due to expired time at the 2023 RWC, from memory it was Owen Farrell that was the kicker on that occasion.
There is no cheating in rugby. Someone’s hand slipped. Coincidence. Ref’s always call games fairly. Players don’t commit cynical fouls to win. Clocks run out of batteries.
The shot time is clear as, the ref tells him at 20 seconds, tells him at 10 seconds, McKenzie focuses on his process too late and unfortunately got what deserved. Don't think that clock in coverage is the stadium clock. I cringed a bit, the game felt like the chiefs losing all over again, non stop passing deep out the back without any proper screen and getting set way behind advantage line consistantly. It's not how you deal with rush defence. Scott Barret looked pedestrian and undercooked, walking all the time, very unlike his historic high workrate. TJ massively cleaned up dirty ball, christie just doesn't bother, doesn't listen to ref and loses it. Telea and Iaone of course both lost the ball at first touch. Telea with one good run the whole game and the rest of the time infield away from the space sideways and backwards in circles while the commentary is saying how wonderful and hard to tackle he is. Finau very poor game at 6, decent game from Papali'i, good first half for Savea then non existant 2nd half. I think every single reserve played better than the person they replaced. I didn't mind the ref most of the game, i thought the last penalty to the ABs on full time should have been to England as they weren't on their feet at all, justice for the very clear Finlay Christie one before that that you pointed out.
yeah the attack was very poor, litreally just cut out pass half the field entire game, i thought ioane was under cooked and you are 100% correct the reserves were better than the starting players. i thought ALB should have replaced reiko at half time. I also notice razor and picked all the super rugby coaches that he obliterated every year as his assistants... so i dont see how thats going to help him out at all...
I genuinely dont think stopping the clock would benefit NZ though. Running the clock faster would have helped the All Blacks lol... So unsure if theres any conspiracy there. The ref owns the kick timing (which he did). So no advantage in stopping the stadium clock (apart from benefiting England giving them more time to score again).
This is a new All Black team. Pretty Rugby will come together when they have more games. We won and as a fan that is all that matters. England played very well and had plenty of opportunities. I went to sleep happy and woke up happy.❤
19, 19, 19.. haha we need a shot clock and respect the kicker graphics. Congratulations to England for a great game, sometimes these tough matches pay dividends when it matters most.
I think the clock stopped when the 1min ran out. My ref beef was in the 1st half, ABs in possession, at every breakdown there was a PoM lying obstructing the 9s access to the ball, EVERY time, TJ had to jump a prone PoM, thats no "accident." PS congrats to Wallabies, well played, good win.
@@Wildkard good spot on the clock stopping though, someone should probably lose their job (shame but that type of attempted cheating shouldn’t be allowed really)
The rush defence is still obviously causing us problems, even after 6-7 years. The backs were caught behind the advantage line several times by the English players. We still try to play a wide game before we achieve dominance in the forwards, very lucky to get a win from that.
I do not understand why every one is surprised at the scoreline. Our 3 games against England previously have been a 16-15 win (at twickenham) a 19-07 loss (world cup semi) and a 25 all draw (twickenham) England beat Ireland at the 6 nations and were robbed against France. We will put more on them at eden park.
Wow, yup, that was a test match, sheesh, lotsa work ons for Razor, really impressed with England's pace, work rate, and sheer physicality. Way too close.
@@Wildkard That would be right lol DM, is a great player but I think his size is a liability in test matches time will tell when other teams target him and he starts turning over ball.
WildKard, I’m not sure why you thought the ABs would blow England off the park. This was their first test together with a new coach. England are a good side who have played an entire 6 Nations together. It’s just not realistic to think they would get smashed. The margins are not that big anymore so I’m happy just to get the win. The ABs the will improve from here.
So glad to see that Kirwans AB's won with visually spectacular running Rugby....Oh no, wait a minute......? Sorry, I could not help myself as a South African, thank you for another great review wildcard. Blessings from South Africa.
The ref's didn't call on a lot of Infringements, offside in a ruck, England were offside for most of the game with their rush defence,so many forward passes not called as well,DMacs ones were called though.
yeah so with the forward passes and offside, i think its a camera angel thing, cos i see it every game the 3rd and 4th player away from the ruck always looked offside in just about every game
I'm from NZ and Widcard you make a valid point, lets call it Clock Gate lol, and your analysis on the game I totally agree with mate, let's see what happens next week. 👍
WildKard!!!I never woulda Thought!?!Man Dats CrayCray..But I Believe You 💯%!!.. I was thinking thou they may have paused the clock as it WAs in Fact Time up!!so clock stops for England to make a decision?!?..idk I haven’t Actually seen the Law Book😬 Love the Channel!!.
Sorry man I have to disagree, I thought the abs were good, as was England, as was the ref. Yes a few dumb mistakes from all of the above but that didn't take away from the game. 80 min of huge hits, great handling skills and attacking intent from both teams
Good point, the ABs were not playing like an AB outfit, they needed a game prior to taking on the English to get some cohesion into their play. Not going to complain about the clock, the Aussies had a similar problem in a game they should have won, but the shot clock malfunction is one of those moments that give pause.
I love this 1 min kick rule. Awesome. I always used to have the kick taking ages and time wasting. Probably not that excited about it getting the abs lol but still, dmac wont do that again. I think the time pause at the stadium was as the time expired. They set the one min at the stadium also and it started at 19sec, so ended at 19sec
What no one has mentioned is how bad the ABs hands were they were on attack many times then dropped the ball definitely rusty they will be a lot better next week
Man wildkard is good. AB always play SR style in their first game. Must of been ole Fitzpatrick up there keeping the time! Nice work England, clearly had a game plan. To me it looked definitely like a team just starting out vs a team just finishing up.
I noticed that Mackenzie was surprised that had run out of time, but heard the ref say '20' and then '10', so he knew he was running out of time, unless he didn't hear the ref. Likewise, the ref said 'Use it' twice to Christie, but he didnt react to use it. I wonder if the crowd was so loud the couldn't hear the ref. Mackenzie fluffed around placing the ball on the tee like he was using up time. That's where he lost it. I knew he would run out.
the referee did say 10sec to dmac but it was hard to decipher, cos he did have a accent so was a bit hard to understand. the christie one i think the all blacks were confused whos gona take the ball out. they did hear the referee.
Good analysis Wildcard! Your right, Super Rugby is not test footy. I dont like the new jersey too😊 I would see some of the bench players start in Game 2. Abs lucky to come out with the WIN. I suppose a Win is a Win! Like the past, Abs struggle to change game plan when plan A is not working. The English defence was great. Anyway alot to work on, first hit out. All the best ABs.
i thought the all blacks bench was better than the starting team in my preview and they really saved the game and looked better in the 2nd half. i think razor will start beauden and ALB next week
I agree - they needed to go forward! It started to look like school rugby; individuals doing their thing, panicking, ran out of ideas. As for the ‘statement’…“best 9’s in the world” 🥴 We’ve watched the Blues all season play the type of rugby that wins games. New era?! Nothing new here
Wow, somebody trying to cheat in Kiwi-land, this needs to be seriously investigated and sanctioned. Maybe that why DMac was smiling. Well done to the ref and to you for copping it.
Really good analysis, the AB’s look rusty and again don’t know how to counter that rush defence, it’s been a constant problem since 2017, England played well, the AB’s have alot of work to do ahead of next week’s test. Really impressed with England’s defence and their forwards too
yeah razor will have to loose some sleep this week. i think some of the bench players should start next week. and the 9 10 combination isnt working right now
A wins a win,unprepared they still won they can only improve which is pretty exciting for the all blacks. By the way perenara played well before going off there is a real weakness about the 9 when Christies on his errors and that meek box kick he over uses is confirmation he won't last in the all blacks.
Not many click with dmac if any...apart from Cortez ratima that is, but you can safely say for the next few games unless injured TJ will be the lynch at 9 until ratima is up to speed...also would be great to see proctor in at 13 and shift Reiko out to the wing probably for telea.
Also, as you say, kick array as a means to get the opposition to turn around is huge. Cant just box kick. It gets you absolutely nowhere. Long kicks, grubbers, kick pass and box kicks all need to be used. As far as the collar is concerned, I could take my old jersey, use a nice crisp piece of A4 paper and make a collar for it no problem. Only way to fix the collar as a fan is to hope this side becomes an all time great team and fill the white in with black signatures.
He'll come up with some weird excuses. 1) England are secretly the best team in the world. 2) The All Blacks didn't care about the result 3) The AB's played bad on purpose so they could learn how to win tight matches...
@@FilmDecoded0002 and 3 are very unlikely abz don't like losing at all i remember in one of the rugby championships they lost to rsa in the last match and looked depressed even though they won the championship
Even undercooked we beat a well prepared England side. However the All Blacks had better step their game up next time because England can surely smell blood in the water.
Ref was garbage the whole game, England was lying all over the rucks TJ was literally climbing over bodies in the 1st half TJ getting injured because of the english constantly coming in from the side of the ruck to clear out
Your absolutely right, the referee was an absolute nut job! How can McKenzie not get time to take that kick, that’s how long he usually takes most of the time! And what about the last holding on penalty, the English guy was clearly holding on the the ball. The rules and game of rugby are becoming a farce! Also England were living rent free in our backline, about time 2 referees were used to ref the onside line, there is no time and space anymore and it’s ruining the game.
It was brushed off in the media here as a weird anomaly. I agree that shot clock incident should be investigated. Imo it's so dodgy seems it could be compared to some of the things Australian cricket teams have tried in the past even though it wasn't a actual team member. Still very embarrassing and shameful as a kiwi
LOL - the Kiwi's have been playing dirty rugby for more than a century - unfortunately for them the referees and TMO's have become aware of that and are not easily corruptible or influenced anymore! That clock stop is but one of their "dirty" tactics! John Kirwan said - the refs were not wrong - the rules are wrong! (Yep, he said it - on air!) Basically, rugby rules must change to suit the All Blacks way of playing!? ...WTF???
Everyone knows New Zealand is the richest country in the world, far richer than England, France, Australia, and South Africa, that's the reason we are the best team in the world.😂😂😂😂
@Wildkard Perhaps, but they could say they had started it to early & tried to compensate? You may well be correct, but who is the 'button pusher' so to speak? Are they local or part of the 'neutral" officials team? There is a growing concensus that sport is 'steered' & I would agree with that. There are plenty of examples & they're not necessarily gambling related 😉
I disagree, I think that game was an epic battle but abs showed why they’re the best team in the world and got that W in the end 🔥 watch them get better as the season progresses, this a whole fresh All black team. Also I reckon the new kit looks sick asf
😂😂 Wildkard sock it to them, All Blacks weren't convincing, England better than expected. Referee sucked!!: love your honesty and plain and simple explanations.. 🍻🍻 cheers
But did the All Blacks ‘really win’ ?!! There was only a single point difference … so is it ‘really a win ???! Remember in Rugby WC, the Springboks won the quarters, semi and final match by a single point - and many claimed that they are not ‘really champions’ because of their single point winning margin. 🤔 The boot is now on the other foot, …. what you say now ?!
Ref is sole judge of time. Not the stadium clock. Ref clearly said 10 seconds and McKenzie didnt listen. You'd think the ABs lost by 20 the way you're judging them 😂
What an theatre u doing now??? Referee was telling how many secound left two times... Sorry never feel save about an stadium watch... going on,back,stopp,or running further! Now an count down of 60secounds be running down.... not play watch is important there?
Absolutely, I did wonder why they showed a shot of him at the game, I recalled I said to my wife, he should have been on the field. Him and smith were badly missed tonight! Perenara and Christie should not be in the team imho.
Dude that’s weird you pointed out the shot clock violation. I thought something weird was going on, and I don’t think they showed the count down on the tv screen either