I can't thank you enough for the amount of high quality reviews you do. I've been going through Thomann for days finding things I hadn't heard of in the 10 months I stopped following the synth scene and 90% of them you've had a video on. Really impressive. You're channel is my go to
that subharmonic quantization idea was brilliant. you're def the ben eater of synths, sharing a wealth of knowledge and empowering/ inspiring folks to learn and do cool stuff. thanks for being awesome
Is that power cable bent, or is the input jack not straight? Either way it's triggering the ever loving hell out of my OCD. Now I have to touch the doorknob 501 times alternating between right and left hands. It's going to be a long night.
4 0CTRL videos in an hour Wow! Yours has 22:50 : NIN -Closer subharmonics yeah! 25:50 'interesting things start to happen' I like it and I feel good btw beatstep's real pro in comparison is saving patterns but for that, I'd choose this thingy if it was either or
I have had this sequencer/keyboard/controller for about three months and am just in awe of its simplicity, flexibility, and usefulness. It's like a wonderful sketchbook for musical ideas.
Great video. Maybe both of these would be a good fit with my Deluge. Presumably, the MIDI clock from the Deluge could be patched from the 0-COAST to the 0-CTRL so the sequencer would be synced to the Deluge but I could touch the pads for modulation?
Great review Ziv! That's a really interesting and smartly designed sequencer/controller, I must say. If I owned an 0-Coast it would be an irresistable paring. I do lament the lack of a quantized output though.
The video edits are fantastic. Thank you Ziv. I can't help think of your video edits as a fined tuned set of chord progressions walking us though a visual delight. The visual anticipation is always wonderfully resolved and focused. Not being lost on us. Keep up the great content. Bravo.
Indeed, I thought of that of course, but the "slew limiter" on 0-Coast is not a voltage controlled one though and it has some limitations compared to a true one (the attack stage peaks, kind of messing things up). It's a nice hack, but not a real voltage controlled one
@@eternalvoid2678 got no issue between my DFAM and other eurorack modules. the "time" and "strengh" sequencers on the 0CTRL are perfect for DFAM. I already got an O coast with the DFAm and they pair so well (as long as you got a quantizer, love the micro tonal stuffs but sometimes it's a real pain in the ass - and a DFAM quantized is such a great synth outside of its percussive nature). i just wonder how does this Octrl competes with a rené mk2 in a tiny case.....
A tip: if you patch the pressure gate out to the external clock input, you can play the 0-CTRL like a keyboard AND trigger its envelope out at the same time, as long as the sequence is not running. This does not prevent you from using the unit as the sequencer it is. When you stop the sequencer, each step sends three CVs, an envelope determined by the second row, a vari-level gate, a pressure CV and a pressure gate, which can be sent anywhere using a multiple.
Ive finally assembled a fun eurorack! So much fun :) dual midi cv converter, dual vco, dual filter, dual adsr, vca and a mixer with fx + 3 cable bundles Ca 1000$ but completely worth it. New song each day with Play+ sequencer ❤❤❤❤
Sequencer on the Minibrute 2S suddenly seems extremely good value, 4 lanes not 3 and 64 steps not 8 oh and a whole synth too. Bought the 0-coast yesterday.
@@Gruftgrabbler Yeah, it's unfortunate when you aren't able to step record. Even Volcas have this feature. But I think I'd rather have live record and no step record, than step record and no live record. There's something special about playing something once and having it loop on a sequence. Then again, there's also something to be said about programming a sequence that's either outside the user's playing ability, or difficult/impossible for humans to play at all.
Fifth or eighth viewing; just took delivery of my 0-CTRL two days ago. I'm now having even more fun with my Blue Marvin 2600 clone! After Musique Concrete', I learned synthesis on a Buchla 100 (I'm 67 now), so my choice of keyboard was obviously touch-plates and the analog sequencer. You talk about some subtleties here, that are going to bring me back for a few more viewings. My next stop is your "Ever Expanding Book" {available if you are one of the Loopop Patreon Supporters and if you're not it's your Great Loss!}, to see what you've put out there. The book has added much to what I "thought I knew" and hadn't imagined. Oddly, I haven't "killed a tree" (yet) and tried to print it; you keep Updating the book! Thank you SO much for what you have provided this community!
Man, you are SO creative, and yet so organized and logical in how you communicate. Such a great resource for the community, not just about this particular instrument but how to THINK about these kinds of instruments. Thank you!
Wow... this is like having two Pressure Points and a Brains. I'm glad I didn't buy exactly that about two months ago when I was sitting with those in my cart on analoghaven. I'm guessing this will be similarly priced or cheaper.
I addressed this as a patch on my Patreon - you can join and look for the post that reviews the 0-ctrl and leave before the end of the month and pay nothing if you don't want to
@@loopop Amazing, isn't it? I was checking all these eurorack sequencers constantly and I was never happy, couldn't deal with all the menu's and data typing. This is exactly what I wanted and I didn't know it before!
Can you name something that does everything this does at the same quality or better for half of the cost? Relatively means relating to something. Compared to a 800-1k device, yes 400 is cheap
Is there a particular sequential switch that might par well with Ocontrol to increase the length of a sequence to 16 or 24 steps ,and how would you go about patching it up ? (maybe this is another video ) love your work by the way !
Really well done and informative video. I have one of these showing up tomorrow possibly and have lots of cool ideas to start with now! Thanks for your work!
While they are awesome.... at around $500 for each......kinda steep.... and then u would want a keyboard, that's another $300 at least....... I dont understand why sound making equipment is so expensive still today. I mean analoge I can understand a little the price of good components.... But like sample based grooveboxs....I mean my $100 smartphone is way more powerful and can do wayyy more than a $1000 sampler.....
I watch your videos on gear all the time. This one I didn't think I NEEDED to because the module is pretty simple. By god was I wrong. This is such a useful video, full of so many helpful and flat out mind blowing tips. I bet make noise crew hasn't even thought of half of these. Thank you!
Excellent video. I'm just now getting into synths. I have only a Behringer Crave so far. With just the 0-CTRL, can you create and save a custom sequence from keyboard mode, like a song essentially? Or can it only ever play notes sequentially?
I’ve had 0-Cntrl for a few weeks (no 0-Coast as yet). Lots of fun but top find so far is dynamic gate output into exp fm on a self resonating filter, with a bit of delay & reverb added, not clocked to the beat. ❤️
Getting mine tomorrow. Pairing it with an Pittsburgh Modular sv-1b and gunna sample the two of them into a Polyend Tracker. Pretty pumped, pray for me, I am new to all of this, lol.
I value your MakeNoise videos, particularly of the 0-Coast and 0-Control -- full of ideas and creative info. But I don't find anything here on the Strega? In the works? No plans? ...
Hey ziv, i have had the best day. Was brushing up on my ocontrol with ocoast and strega, and watched this tute through the lot with sub harmonic sequences in the background, all through the strymon nightsky. Your voice really cuts through the mix nicely. I think you once said "infinite reverb is awesome" agreed. I am a patron and really cant thank you enough for your work. 👍
i have some non modular synths, that do have some minimal CV ...could they still be made use of somehow hooked into this? Moog Subsequent Novation Bassstation R TD-3 or is the intern in going to be too limited ?
Most of the time these kind of synth have only a pitch and a gate intput, so yes you'll be pretty limited. I think something like the beatstep would be more efficient. I don't think that all the cool stuff like subharmonics won't work with these synth. Not 100 percent sure, they maybe tricks to do wild stuff but most of the time you will be able to use only one row. If you want a sequencer with knob you should try to find the korg one on used market it would me more adapted to your setup.
What enclosure and additional modules are you using with the Erica Sample Drum ? Is there any other desktop devices you would recommend to add drums to the Make Noise pairing?
See description for the case. Regarding recommendations - you can add any drum machine, but if you want a voltage controlled one, no non modular one comes to mind
After 20+ years, i was finally weeks away from buying all the doepfer A-15- modules, and the 160-5, - having used an MPC60II with Kenton converters up until now. well it's been a long wait, but i'm glad i did, - might still buy the Quantizer/156 though.. ~ i wonder, would the A-160-5 be a good addition to this??
i assume you mean you are talking about the doepfer sequencers, not switches? lots of fun combos to imagine, a-160-2 and a-160-5 among them. I worship at the church of ALM pamela's new workout for a master clock (with divide and multiply, swing, slop, + bonus envelopes, gates, euclidean patterns, etc..it's seriously the best deal in modular), but the 160-5 is awesome for ratcheting, and 160-2 gives you weird prime number divisors for the clock so you get complex poly-rhythms (and so avoid repetition). for a quantizer, intellijel scales or addac207 i highly recommend checking out. haven't tried the doepfer a-156 personally but i think the scales or addac207 are more intuitive, and addac207 is much more powerful because it's actually a quad quantizer, so you can do 4 cv's simultaneously, plus you can queue up realtime key modulations, and likewise modulate back to the original key which is pretty slick when you are just sending it random cv's. for me, this new 0-ctrl is super exciting because of the velocity sensitivity per pad, the envelope per step (rather than just a gate--thinking of it like 8 AD's). I am not really seeing it for melodies (due to being unquantized for pitch), but this 0-ctrl is definitely going to get some love. it's obviously built for live play, i think of it more like a live-playable modulation sequencer, adding feel to rhythm parts and using those envelopes to ctrl vca's and filters. the sequenced cv but un-quantized is excellent to move filter cutoff or resonant points around, where 'close enough' is fine; we are not playing notes. some modules it brings to mind for me are intellijel tetrapad, malekko voltage block, which both i love, but i'll def be getting this, it's a very cool interface to me. hope that's helpful, best of luck on your musical journeys:)
Didnt even realised there is this new exciting piece on the market. Seems very interessting. So its basically similar to the Pressure Points but way more capable. It looks like a really good controller for bring live into patches
Make Noise is designed and built in the USA unlike almost every other synthesizer and controller made today. So the prices are higher and sales are significantly lower than Chinese made products like Arturia, Behringer, Korg, Roland etc. I respect what they are doing, they are achieving a lot with their small team of people in North Carolina.
Hi, I'm finally getting a 0-Coast after waiting 6 months (due to Covid causing delivery/supply problems). However, when I first saw your review of the above 0-Ctrl, I thought, yes, let's get the two pieces, they'll clearly be perfect together. However, between time I recently saw the KORG SQ-64 which looks very interesting indeed (although clearly not a modular synth), but it does seem to have some very interesting qualities which the 0-Ctrl sort of lacks (and even covers some of the weaknesses too). So, my question is should I go ahead with the 0-Ctrl as the sequencer option, or maybe wait a few month for the Korg SQ-64. Of course I understand your answer could be simply, "it depends on what you want it for", but maybe you could give me a few pros and cons for the two sequencers, which both look attractive in their own ways. Thanks in advance.
You guessed my answer correctly... everything I know about both sequencers is in this and the SQ-64 review - if you want a summary of the pros and cons it's in that section of the video of course. Sorry, don't know what to say beyond that...
@@loopop No problem. One of the things that I thought was interesting in your reviews was the abstract way in which 0-Ctrl handles rhythm and pitch, but as you say, this can be frustrating as well as liberating. On the other hand I see that you seem to use your two MakeNoises with the KeyStep and the need to quantize, which points to something fundamental about pitch to make sense.
I'm not convinced. I see the potential but quantization is really missing. There's purity and there's convenience. This has purity but a tad more convenience would have been good. Unless Makenoise sees something I haven't yet seen (let's not discount that.)
Alex Petit-Bianco There’s plenty of products available that have quantize but I see your point. I think Make Noise tends to gravitate towards not “conforming to the norm.” They like you to get out of your comfort zone and explore sonic possibilities that don’t necessarily fall within the typical “rules” of music. I don’t think they do this in a snobby way, but in a fun “get experimental” way.
Does anyone know how the time row behaves when using external clock? can you have a master clock running the octrl and then use the time knobs to manipulate the groove of downstream synths ? @loopop
@@loopop Thanks - I missed that - I skipped through as I've already watched 3 reviews :) From your example it seems like it just skips some of the steps. I wonder if it had been digital whether it might have been able to take in a hires /24 clock and then be able to shift backwards/forwards the steps in time to apply a groove/swing to patterns whilst still being in sync. Interesting little box - will you buy one?
Looks awesome and just ordered one to use with my Make Noise 0-coast and new modular system. Can you send the CV to multiple modular synths? So have it sequence a 0-coast and Doepfer A100 system at same time on different tracks?
@@loopop thanks and can you use it like a clock to send a clock signal to a eurorack module that requires clock signal like the Malekko envelope module or would I send clock from the 0-coast to the Malekko EG sequencer module?
Great stuff👾 You mentioned in the sequnce part that you can feed multiple outputs in one input and it doesnl't damage the system. is it true for other MakeNoise gear (strega and 0 Coast)?
Yes, at least for 0-Coast. I don’t remember the source, but I think in one of the official Make Noise videos for the 0-Coast or the instruction manual for it, they say this.
silly question time! can you control each sequence row seperately and send one row in one direction and one row in another? or stop one row and keep the others going?
might be a possible mod, if someone wanted to void their warranty to find out lol I personally wouldn't but I know there's adventurous synth folk out there
Thank you Makenoise, as an owner of 1010music Toolbox and Squarp Hermod, to make me smiling... 399 for this ? I can buy 4 Korg's SQ1 for this price and make some music, not only noise...
