Plastic bumper covers and metal panels will always mismatch in color, even when sprayed at the same time with the same batch of paint. It's called pigment wick. The solvents react differently to the different substrates.
Super_Slav Its the insurance fault! Im a painter and labor rate on that is around $52 here. Mechanic is 80 or even 100 some places. The ins companies only give certain amount of time per panel and per dent. But they try to short on fixing the car EVERY WHICH WAY they can. Instead of fixing it 100percent back with oem parts. The whole auto body industry should stand up, its only gonna get worse and soon theyll get guys from mcdonalds to paint your car. I cant make a living hardly as a painter nowdays. Its sad
Some body shops are crooked as hell. They cut corners, wants a lot of money from you and insurance company,but does a crappy/shady job on the work. It not their vehicle so they can care less about other people vehicle. No honest craftsmen ship goes into the work.
This man is a joke. Where is the contract for this job and how much did he pay for it? He is a scammer and should not be taken seriously. He is a fraud.
sasasas dadadadada Thats what I was thinking. It coulda been a cheapo job some guy did for $300. In that case yeah it would look ok. But for an insurance repair no.
What is sad is that this was probably done in a shop with a paint booth with more-than-adequate lighting. If I can do much better than this in my garage, there is no excuse.
I just had some work done on my car from Caliper Collision , screwed the paint job up 2 times and now it has not been sprayed right , its to light in areas and this is the hood, Im just going to make a claim on my comp , and go to someone else , not sure if I can get my deduc back or not , I hate to let them win , after 2 botched jobs
90% of bodyshops rush em in and out No time to play with doors and fenders and hoods ..Get them on fix the gaps best you can and move on to the prep and paint ..grab the next car The other point of it is the detailer needs to catch these problems along with the service advisor (runs blemishs overspray Buffing polishing paint touch up and overall little things...Lights horn Interior clean..Not only from the dirt from the shop but the customers too
ha, the insurance company os to blame for this by sending you to shops that will do the work for less money. the tech isnt going to do anything more than they get paid for. its sad, but these guys want factory repairs, but wont pay to achieve the results they seek. gaps are never right from the factory, go take a gauge to a dealer lot and youll see most cars leave tje factory with at least 2 mm gap difference side to side. new cars with plastic bumpers will never have an exact paint match to a metal fender because they are two different substrates, metal and plastic. every new car comes off the assembly line with a color difference from the fender to bumper unless its straight black..... these guys are a joke, trying to pay less for higher quality. the insurance industry is a scam to make money and pay out less on every claim, then reinspect the vehicle and say you didnt do it fast enough and you didnt do a bunch of free work to make the car look perfect. dont get me wrong, some shops purely do shit work to get money, but besides some paint flaws, this would be an average repair in most cases.
Its the insurance fault! Im a painter and labor rate on that is around $52 here. Mechanic is 80 or even 100 some places. The ins companies only give certain amount of time per panel and per dent. But they try to short on fixing the car EVERY WHICH WAY they can. Instead of fixing it 100percent back with oem parts. The whole auto body industry should stand up, its only gonna get worse and soon theyll get guys from mcdonalds to paint your car. I cant make a living hardly as a painter nowdays. Its sad
charlotte quillen Its the insurance fault! Im a painter and labor rate on that is around $52 here. Mechanic is 80 or even 100 some places. The ins companies only give certain amount of time per panel and per dent. But they try to short on fixing the car EVERY WHICH WAY they can. Instead of fixing it 100percent back with oem parts. The whole auto body industry should stand up, its only gonna get worse and soon theyll get guys from mcdonalds to paint your car. I cant make a living hardly as a painter nowdays. Its sad
seldom if ever, is there an insurance man in the middle of a mechanical repair, so those garages receive ample moneys for their labor...mr adjuster/claims writer walks in and wants you to bow, kneel and fear him...the reality is, they desperately need the shops as an accomplice to the deception....biggest buffalo of all time...if shop owners would ever resist in unity, it would all stop for good forever....yeah, right...and then we,d all have a Merry Christmas.
i would like to see this guy doing the work with his beautiful nice and smoth lady hands, i see this kind of ladies everyday , but when you ask them what would be a solution or tell him to show you what would he do about it is scrap the whole paint again is what they say , when you know that this cutie ladies sont want to pay enough to buff and polish the entire car
Oh STFU.....ill bet your work is shitty too. Thats why you make so many god damn excuses. Quick turn around is the name of the game and these piece of shit body shops dont give a damn because they know the average customer with no attention to detail is just happy to have their car back after 2 fucking months in the shop for a bullshit bumper cover repair. There is NO EXCUSE for fisheyes, runs and overspray. If you cant do it right get the fuck out of business.
Help!! I just bought a used 2018 Cadillac and the dealership never told me they repainted the front bumper due to scratches!! I didn’t notice the horrible chop shop work because it was a rainy day!! I’ve now brought it to a auto body repair shop that I’ve used for years ... and they said it was a terrible job ... fish eyes everywhere, the whole front bumper isn’t buffed so it looks mate finish compared to the rest of the car?? Any ideas on what I can do to have this done right... oh and the dealership won’t get back to me !!
Picky, picky, picky. They should do quality check on brand new cars at the dealerships. Gaps are bad. Cars will never come out of a collision repair 100% the same. Restoration shop cars are full of body filler. I want to see these guys do body work. Body techs get all the blame. The real ones to blame are the insurance companies.
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Listen, most of these cars have really bad gaps as it is so STOP! The paint issues are legit. I’m sure if I looked at the work coming out of your shop I could pick it apart to. Guys like this piss me off. Bad work is bad work but nitpicking is another!
Sad to say the Insurance companies are so far behind in paying for the supplies and the services needed to make all these repairs. Twenty years have elapsed and the numbers they generate on the claims is a two dollar increase.
if you will read the 17 digit vins, 3 numbers at a time, you,ll have 5 sets of numbers of 3, then you,ll always have 2 numbers remaining at the end. guarantees you,ve got all 17 digits.
Fair enough to pick faults with the paint finish and overspray, but I think he was being too critical with everything else, the panel gaps didn’t look that bad, if it was a million dollar supercar then yes measure every panel gap
Blame the insurance companies for that. These office junkies expect a flawless perfect job, but don't want to pay the actual cost of one. You get what you pay for, is what I see in this video.
I'm perfect with my paint as well as my gaps and body work, to get that quality, I take my time.... shops don't want that, they want it done and out quick. Sorry partner, but you would be busy with the garbage being put out today.
I'm just amused anyone with a new car cares. They are purely disposable now. If it goes down the road and looks good from 20 feet then it's good enough. It's not an antique. It's never going to be attractive or interesting. it's not important how it looks. It's irrelevant how much you paid for it because it's depreciating faster than you pay on it.
paint car just 1 you'll see why these rip off artist charge so much. I know guy putting Lincoln navigator would sell his soul to get those kinds tolerances
Rob R I didnt see much in the way of aftermarket parts. Bumber maybe. But still cant tell. He was too picky on the gaps, But the paint work and color and overspray unacceptable in my shop. F bumper looked way brighter white and they used a yellow and tried to blend it.
I'm 27yrs body technician and wanna say I'm just sick of picky customers. I'm talking about the ones that want other stuff fixed for free while its in the shop or say its got a scratch on the other side that wasn't there before.also insurance adjusters that don't know shit about a car writing an estimate !!!
ha, the insurance company os to blame for this by sending you to shops that will do the work for less money. the tech isnt going to do anything more than they get paid for. its sad, but these guys want factory repairs, but wont pay to achieve the results they seek. gaps are never right from the factory, go take a gauge to a dealer lot and youll see most cars leave tje factory with at least 2 mm gap difference side to side. new cars with plastic bumpers will never have an exact paint match to a metal fender because they are two different substrates, metal and plastic. every new car comes off the assembly line with a color difference from the fender to bumper unless its straight black..... these guys are a joke, trying to pay less for higher quality. the insurance industry is a scam to make money and pay out less on every claim, then reinspect the vehicle and say you didnt do it fast enough and you didnt do a bunch of free work to make the car look perfect. dont get me wrong, some shops purely do shit work to get money, but besides some paint flaws, this would be an average repair in most cases.
I bet any paint shop that see's this guy coming they probably say to themselves "Awe shit....here comes the guy with the gauges" This guy has a really good attention to detail. Although I will say on a Dodge Journey a sledgehammer dent would improve the car.
Lmao "here you can see the gap goes from 4.5 to 4.0 back to 4.5 1nch beyond that........lmao. This guy obv is no body man. You would have to spend a week getting gaps right with a fender that was made in china.......!!! This is what we call a paper pusher in my world.
That was my first thought on the gaps. He gettin lil too picky on those. I was sayin go check a factory one! But even i could see the blend and overspray on camera so obv not quality job. Bumber was too light, rest was wayy too yellow darker. They didnt buff any of it. He talkin bout one spot near handle, lol.
I have been in the auto repair industry for over twenty years. I currently work at an auto factory. Although I agree with several points that you brought out on the quality of workmanship on this particular repair, there is not a single shop including yours that can make perfect defect free repairs. Heck the factory can't even do that.
Even if your insurance company is cheap and buys aftermarket parts? Or decides to not pay the shop/tech for everything they do? Or if the corporate shop you took it to has a "we'll make sure you make it up on the next job" mentality when it comes to taking care of the technician?
Working hard for that post repair inspection fee I see. I have a brand new Fusion with gap issues all over and paint issues (color match, overstay, etc.)..this guy is an ambulance chaser..btw he charges the owner for what he did
I agree with most of this but seriously many of these cars brand new have mismatched gap lines and bumpers.For a base model Dodge Journey just buff those runs out and send it!😂
This is what happens when you pay top dollar for your insurance but insurance wants to pay out as little as possible so they fix your car with aftermarket parts and cut corners. trust me I work in the field so much shit goes on it's crazy. Aftermarket parts lower the value of your car Point Blank.
One important thing to remember: this vehicle is a Chrysler product, so any mismatched gaps and poor paint job might be totally normal on this crappy SUV from the factory. ;-)
This guy is literally justifying his paycheck, and clearly loves the little bit of power he's been given. All I've seen in this video is 1 camera shot that shows a little overspray on the windshield, other than that there's no evidence in this video other than all the sharpie circle's he drew that the camera couldn't show the faults labelled !! And he fails to tell everyone that the gauges he's using and the manufacturer guidelines have a tolerance close to 1mm either way which makes all the readings he took acceptable, but he didn't mention that.!? The thing to understand is if this guy doesn't pick apart and find faults even as miniscule as they may be, then he's not doing his job !! Only a certain type of person would do this job, usually people who have a few cats and live with their mother so a little bit of disecting others hard work gives a feeling of power and makes up for the friends they never had !!
All y'all paint and body guys make fun of this guy, his hands, him being in office clothes, saying he's never done this type of work and on and on...He's not claiming to be a paint and body guy. Just because you spray paint and apply fillers, it don't make you a paint and body man either. Your comments obviously tell me you do this type of shitty work, and you need to go bag groceries for a living instead of touching people's cars. You all are the people ruining $50k plus vehicles. I took a $60k truck in for a fender repair. It must have been one of you all working on it. Curl in paint, bad overspray across entire windshield, bad filler job on scrapes in the fender (the only damaged part!), paint curl across the undamaged door in secondary color of two tone paint where they "blended", and now clear coat is peeling off on "blended" door and hood. Both of which were undamaged. I specifically asked them not to touch any other panels. Now instead of a shitty job on just the fender, I have issues with the fender, the hood, and the passenger front door. HAVE SOME PRIDE IN YOUR WORK or GTFO!!
I understand sometimes gaps don’t always come out to a T but sometimes insurance gives us aftermarket parts TONG YANG impossible to make fit even with reaming the holes. Gotta remember we are humans not robots. But yeah I agree sometimes some shops just absolutely botch jobs.
That awkward moment when your picking a gap of 4 mm and 4.5 mm. The other awkward moment when your picking gabs on panels that werent removed. Yikes! Not a good look guys.
the masking job was poor. Can see in video is pretty bad in persosn. I had a shop redo mg car three times bc I was able to see the repairs which means it was mot done right. Insurance is a problem bc they don’t want to pay for quality work.
hahaha I bet it was chris Gilbert at "Chris Gilberts Body Shop" haha.i worked for him one time.he painted slot of stuff outside and never blended.he never sanded only scuffed smh
About 70% of vehicles the gasps are not perfect. So hard to say the shop did it wrong. You are just trying to fix something wrong. Yes some areas do need to be fixed.
Yeah they aren't getting shit done at there shop at all with this guy wanting to make the cars like 100% like new no car will be perfect after any collision. It's like bending a spoon and trying to bend it back with no curve fucking impossible
I can rip cars like this ever day. People get what they pay for! Pay cheap and you get a cheap job and then you pay the price you should have to start with to have it done by a real professional.. Half my work used to be corrections due to shody repairers... used to boil my piss! Pay cheap pay twice!
I remember having some minor bodywork done on my car after a door was smashed by an uninsured driver. The work the shop did exceeding Honda's factory in Mexico on quality. The paint was smoother lol Though they screwed up the buffing on one surface which left swirls, but I pointed it out and they made good on it.
I've got a marker pen. Im going to use it to point out all the flaws a shop did and point out panel gap errors with my homemade measuring device to look like I know what Im talking about. Ignore the fact that I don't know what a bumper cover is. Pretend you did not hear that.
Ken Sendelofski SURE! EVERYONE go visit my page on Facebook. AMERICAN DREAM MOBILE PAINT AND BODY. Let me know what u think! He was wayyyy over picking those gaps but color was way off even i could tell that, yellower. bumper was brighter. I could also see the overspray on f window, clearly they didnt bag it. But the guy may have only paid $300 for the job or they saved him $500 off his deductible , no telling. But if it is an insurance job it needs alot of help . I do it every single day