Тёмный

Review of Ian Esslemont’s Dancer’s Lament, book one of Path to Ascendancy 

Philip Chase
Подписаться 40 тыс.
Просмотров 3 тыс.
50% 1

This video is a review of Ian C. Esslemont’s Dancer’s Lament, book one of Path to Ascendancy, a prequel series to Steven Erikson’s The Malazan Book of the Fallen and Esslemont’s Novels of the Malazan Empire.
My review of The Malazan Book of the Fallen: • Why Steven Erikson’s M...
My review of Forge of Darkness (Kharkanas Trilogy): • A review of Steven Eri...
My review of Fall of Light (Kharkanas Trilogy): • Review of Steven Eriks...

Опубликовано:

 

11 сен 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 91   
@ACriticalDragon
@ACriticalDragon 3 года назад
Great video, and nice to see Esslemont's PtA series get some attention. I completely agree with you that quite a few readers would probably find this an easier entry point to both Esslemont's and Erikson's later series. It struck me that the more linear style, with the limited POVs, and the focalised setting made it a more 'traditional' fantasy read, and it might appeal to readers who were used to that style of storytelling, and by introducing the world and setting that way, would make the later books, with their more distinctive broad style and large casts, a great deal more accessible as the world, setting, and concepts, would be familiar and the therefore one less aspect challenging the reading norm and assumptions. As Esslemont and Erikson gamed many of the characters (if not necessarily the specific sequences or adventures) it seems a shared trait that they both write duos very well, and the back and forth between character pairings gains an added element if you imagine the two authors acting out the dialogue, at least in my estimation. Greatly looking forward to seeing your book by book series as and when you get to it.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Well said! You expressed exactly what I was thinking in regards to Path to Ascendancy being a gentler point of entry for readers who might be daunted by the immediate complexity of the early Malazan books, only you put it better than I did! That’s also a great point about Dancer’s Lament feeling a bit more like traditional fantasy in that its plot is linear. I love the insight about pairs in Erikson and Esslemont’s books - I can only imagine what fun those two must have had while building this world. It’s great to hear from you!
@whiskeySe7en
@whiskeySe7en 3 года назад
Also, props on responding to literally everyone man. Nice stuff 😉
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thanks! I do my best! 😁
@hopeprevails3213
@hopeprevails3213 3 года назад
Ian's writing improves tremendously with each of his books, and with PtA I can say is genuinely the best he's ever been. IMO ICE reaches SE in quality here. So I'm not sure how you'll react to his older novels, if you haven't read them actually. It will surely be interesting to see.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
I know that Esslemont’s Novels of the Malazan Empire have more mixed reviews, with Night of Knives seeming to take the most criticism. However, as you say, Dancer’s Lament belongs right next to Erikson’s Malazan books, and so I’m really excited to read everything Esslemont has contributed to the Malazan world. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@hopeprevails3213
@hopeprevails3213 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yes, my personal favourite from his Novels is Blood & Bone, despite the crappy ending. ICE goes quite the long way from Night on Knives and is fascinating to observe his progress. It's almost unnatural honestly. Hope you enjoy the ride! Also, love your channel! Keep up the good work, Philip!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@hopeprevails3213 Thank you! I deeply appreciate your words of encouragement!
@ismetbahadir
@ismetbahadir 2 года назад
Totally agree with this. Night of Knives was a massive let down but it was also my own fault since I was expecting Erikson-like storytelling, and when I couldn't find it, I was very disappointed. However, as ICE continued writing he improved a lot, and I, as a reader, also accepted the fact that he is completely a different author than Erikson, and those made Dancer's Lament a very decent book despite having its own flaws. I still prefer Erikson over Esslemont, but I aprreciate them both.
@marcusbrody5339
@marcusbrody5339 3 года назад
I'm so glad you enjoyed Dancer's Lament! Esselmont tends to get a bit shafted by the greater Malazan community (mostly becauuse his writing style is quite different then Erikson's , which should obviously be expected from a different writer) but I think he's underrated. If you've seen any interviews with him/Erikson, he was also quite instrumental in creating the Malazan world and many of its most beloved characters. If you enjoy the older, more fast-paced swashbuckling swords-and-sorcery feel of Fritz Lieber or Robert Howard, he's a great fit.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
In all honesty, I’d hate to have my writing compared to Steven Erikson’s even once, not to speak of all the time. Dancer’s Lament in my mind proves that Esslemont is an excellent fantasy writer, and I couldn’t agree more about fully acknowledging him as the co-creator of the Malazan world, which is something I notice Steven Erikson does all the time. Great to hear from you!
@marcusbrody5339
@marcusbrody5339 3 года назад
Oh, the interviews aren't from me. The TSAcast has done some interviews with Erikson/Esselmont though, I think they're the only ones that exist with both of them being interviewed simultaneously. Here's some links: (soundcloud.com/tsa-cast/not-a-tsacast-spoilers-malazan-fireside-conversations-with-e-e-ep5-aug-101320) (soundcloud.com/tsa-cast/not-a-tsacast-spoilers-malazan-fireside-conversations-with-e-e-ep4-july-920)
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@marcusbrody5339 Thanks! I’m checking those out too!
@DoUnicornsRead
@DoUnicornsRead 2 года назад
As I decided to go with your suggestion to make Path of Ascendency my next Esslemont read I thought I treat myself to one of your excellent videos first. As expected it did not disapoint. Great job in presenting the key points. It's very obvious that you enjoyed this one. And as always your enthusiasm makes me want to dive straight into the book. So mission accomplished, Philip!😊
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 года назад
Yay! Have fun with Paths to Ascendancy, Angela, and I look forward to your take!
@SJ-GodofGnomes21
@SJ-GodofGnomes21 3 года назад
Brilliant, informed and spot on review..... you are in for a treat as the series grows... loads more Easter eggs, cameos and familiar races pop up... and 'Wu' and Dancer continue to delight. Also Yay for the Next Dresden book, will be interested to see what you think!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thank you! Honestly, one of the best parts of my Malazan journey has been the encouragement from fans like you. I’m looking forward to delving further into Path to Ascendancy. I should finish Full Moon today!
@TheLibraryofAllenxandria
@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 3 года назад
Great review, Philip! I'm glad to hear this one is an easier entry point and that it's tightly-plotted 1) because Kellanved and Dancer are my favorite characters from MBoF, but 2) because Crimson Guard is a wild mess. Listening to you guys talk about Malazan makes me want to release my qualms and read more of the side books (after finishing TCG)
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thanks, Allen! If you’re going to take on any of the side books, I highly recommend Path to Ascendancy. I have a feeling you’ll like Dancer’s Lament. However, be warned: If you’re not careful, you’ll wake up one morning and find you’ve transformed into a Malazan groupie!
@angelagualtieri5699
@angelagualtieri5699 3 года назад
This is really helpful. I haven't read the Malazan books yet, but I plan to make my way through them next year (I'm in the middle of Wheel of Time right now, and it would be too much to do them both at the same time). Most people talk about how overwhelming the Malazan books can be so the idea there's a softer point of entry into this massive world is highly appealing. Thanks for another great review.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
My pleasure! It would definitely be beyond my courage to read Malazan and Wheel of Time simultaneously. As for Malazan, I wish I had prepared myself better the first time, but I was never going to catch everything with one read anyway. Have a blast with WoT!
@slowlyred2082
@slowlyred2082 3 года назад
Great review 👌 I've only read Gardens of the Moon but I was surprised to see little representation of the ICE books. Im glad you're shining a light on them.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Yes, there’s a gap there on BookTube, I think. I’m definitely looking forward to reading more of Esslemont’s books. Thanks, as always, for stopping by!
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads 3 года назад
I didn't even know this prequel series existed until you started mentioning it. I wonder how long that series will end up being. I already started my Malazan journey with Gardens of the Moon and Deadhouse Gates. My library hold on Memories of Ice just arrived, so I will be starting that soon. I'm trying to prolong that hold as much as possible so I can finish The Blade Itself, which I am loving! I'm excited to follow along on your Malazan reread!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Oh dear! I don’t know what I’d do if I were choosing which to read first: Abercrombie or Erikson. I love both, so I’d end up alternating, I suppose. I’m glad to hear you’ve embarked on your journey into the Malazan world, and I wish you many awe-inducing moments there! I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the series someday!
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads 3 года назад
​@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I know, right? Bookworld problems. Thank you so much! I would be happy to share my thoughts with you someday! I always love hearing yours.
@JZETH_
@JZETH_ 3 года назад
Wow this world in Malazan seems so big and I’m very excited to be diving in next year. I’m excited that you’re going to be re-reading the series because I’ll be able to follow along and listen for things I may have missed. I’m expecting this series to be a bit of a challenge for me but I want to challenge myself.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
The Malazan world is definitely vast and exciting, and it was difficult for me in some ways, but the greatest rewards seem to come from the greatest efforts. It’s awesome to hear from you, Joe! I’ll be watching your latest video later today!
@nemoonbekend2483
@nemoonbekend2483 3 года назад
Good review. You did a marvelous job there tip-toeing around the spoilers. Thanks for pointing out the humor, both in this book and in the main sequence. There a genuinely funny bits all throughout Erikson's work as well as the interactions you mentioned here. I think that gets forgotten sometimes. Lost, I suppose, against the darker and more serious backdrop.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thank you! It’s surprisingly hard to avoid spoilers while reviewing books. I agree that, while it might not be the first thing readers think of, the humor in all the Malazan books is part of their distinction. I appreciate you watching and commenting!
@WMax-rm3ue
@WMax-rm3ue 3 года назад
Oh yes! I can’t wait to read all of the malazan books! Thanks for your suggestions!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
My pleasure! I hope you’ll love them!
@robpaul7544
@robpaul7544 3 года назад
When Path to Ascendancy came around Esslemont had already published several books that were really good . He deserves a lot more attention, but as long as his works are essentially an add-on to the greater Malazan world he's not likely to get that. I would be very curious what Esslemont would write outside their world. Having said that , as a Malazan lover I want both Esslemont and Erikson to keep writing more stories in that wonderful creation. His first one, maybe two, books were somewhat weak. They really just added 'more Malazan' to Malazan, fun for existing fans but little appeal beyond that. But from the start Esslemont proved to be the co-creator with a deep understanding of the world, similar sensibilities and like you said sense of humor . The scope and structure of his work is much more that of standard fantasy, and that makes them easier to read. But also less rewarding and comprehensive. I am not convinced that starting the Malazan journey with PtA caries the same weight and staying power that the BotF offer - but one of the beautiful perks of having such an expansive world and bibliography to choose from is that many of the books can be used as starting points. Excellent review as always - and looking forward to your thoughts on Dresden #2 (although, whatever they are.. read on!) 🤓
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
It’s interesting to think what Esslemont’s literary reputation would be if he weren’t constantly compared to Erikson. I know I’d hate to have my writing judged by such a standard! Going on Dancer’s Lament, it seems to me that Esslemont is an excellent writer, and I’m excited to read the next two books of Path to Ascendancy as well as the fourth when it comes out. I’ve heard a lot of Malazan fans give mixed opinions on Novels of the Malazan Empire, with Night of Knives consistently singled out for the most negative comments, but I’m keen to take a look for myself when I begin my Malazan reread. As always, it’s awesome to hear from you, Rob!
@robpaul7544
@robpaul7544 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Night of Knives was Esslemont's first book which is always challenging - and by stepping under the Malazan mantle the added criticism is to be expected. I don't doubt for a second he was fully aware of this. But for him to be judged on his own merits as an author I think he would need to publish a book or series outside of Malazan - something Erikson has also already done. Although, on a side note, Erikson's book Rejoice hasn't gotten nearly the attention and praise I feel it deserves. But by co-creating Malazan and showing his depth of understanding of it, and publishing 9 books - at least 6 of which I loved - he already is head and shoulders above many other fantasy authors. 😊
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@robpaul7544 I’ll have to add Rejoice to my despairingly long list of books to read!
@bryson2662
@bryson2662 3 года назад
Thanks for covering ICE books. I never see youtubers review those books
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
My pleasure! Dancer’s Lament is excellent and deserves to be reviewed more.
@SJ-GodofGnomes21
@SJ-GodofGnomes21 3 года назад
I thought exactly the same.
@bryson2662
@bryson2662 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy looking forward to your reread reviews
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@bryson2662 And I’m getting pretty damn excited to get back into The Malazan Book of the Fallen! Gardens of the Moon late in December, most likely.
@THX-bz8bi
@THX-bz8bi 3 года назад
Are these books mandatory to understand malazan?
@Jmlisheid
@Jmlisheid 3 года назад
I am excited to tackle Malazan at some point! Despite your well-thought-out suggestion that this prequel series is a good starting point, I'm a die-hard publication-order reader. (So much so, I think we need to coin a term for it; this needs an '-ist' suffix. Bibliographist? Publicationist?) Anyhow, I'll be excited to get to this prequel series once I get to it-thanks for the review!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Publication order is also what Erikson and Esslemont recommend. It’s hard to argue against them, but I do think that some readers who are daunted by the immediate complexity of Gardens of the Moon and the following books might be able to ease themselves into the world with Path to Ascendancy. However you go about it, though, it’s a magnificent world to be immersed in!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@John That’s my thinking, and I believe that path could bring new readers to Malazan. Once they discover the world, they’ll be ready to dive in!
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 3 года назад
Many thanks for this review. I'm still deep in Erikson's Malazan 'decalogy' (House of Chains is almost done) and will certainly be reading Esslemont's Malazan books too in due course. As I value your judgment, this bodes well for my reading future!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thank you! Dancer’s Lament is a worthy addition to the Malazan world. Most fans praise Path to Ascendancy, whereas Esslemont’s Novels of the Malazan Empire seems to get mixed reviews, with Night of Knives getting the most criticism. I aim to find out for myself pretty soon!
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'll be following your traversal with interest!
@masterwarden1
@masterwarden1 2 года назад
I have alot of questions about ascending. I never knew PtA existed.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 2 года назад
PtA will likely answer some of your questions, but ascension is still a bit of a mysterious process. One thing I know is that there are various paths, meaning it can happen in more than one way. Also, I think to move from ascendancy to true godhood, worship of some form is required.
@SJ-GodofGnomes21
@SJ-GodofGnomes21 3 года назад
Will watch review later, but just wanted to say am about 60 pages away from finishing Kellanved's Reach! Will be interested to hear your thoughts on ICE.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Congratulations! I’m interested in hearing your thoughts too, and I hope to catch up with you soon!
@pranavprabhu8609
@pranavprabhu8609 3 года назад
Man, Iko's character name reveal at the end of the book really got me excited, because I should have seen it coming but didn't. Both Iko (under the new name) and Silk are very familiar characters to those who read in publication order, because they are major players in the Novels of the Malazan Empire. I disagree that this is the best entry point, simply because many reveals and easter eggs will confuse readers as to why certain minor characters are getting a lot of page time. The small book climaxes might fall a bit flat to a fresh reader, because the reveals will not land. That said, I'm very excited for you to read Deadhouse Landing; we meet a lot of familiar faces, and their personalities are not what you would except them to be, they are naive and inexperienced (which makes sense in hindsight). The humour and action in the book is also top notch!
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thanks for weighing in on the publication order thing! Erikson and Esslemont agree with you, so who am I to argue? Even so, I can’t help making one little argument 😉. My thinking is that a reader who might be daunted by the immediate complexity of Gardens of the Moon would find Dancer’s Lament a much gentler introduction to the Malazan world and would not only get hooked that way but would feel somewhat more equipped going into The Malazan Book of the Fallen. Of course, you’re absolutely right about the Easter eggs being lost on a Malazan newbie. I was aware of the Crimson Guard references only at the end. However, my guess is that a reader, like me, would be just as delighted to encounter Iko and Silk later in the Novels of the Malazan Empire as he or she would have been to discover the Easter eggs in Dancer’s Lament. Sort of a reverse Easter egg, if you will. This is an argument I’m willing to admit I will probably lose, though, so I’ll retreat now! It’s awesome to hear that the quality remains high in the next books of Path to Ascendancy. Great to hear from you!
@JeansiByxan
@JeansiByxan 3 года назад
Do you think it's better to finish the Malazan series before reading this one? I've been wanting to read Dancer's Lament for some time but wonder if it might not detract from enjoying Erikson's series.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
I personally don’t think it would detract from Malazan at all. In fact, it will add to your understanding of key characters and events in Malazan, and it’s an enjoyable story in its own right. I have to admit I might be in the minority on this, though, as some will insist on reading in publication order.
@JeansiByxan
@JeansiByxan 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks, I'll give it a go. It's nice to know there's a bite-sized Malazan book to read. I love Erikson, but I just don't have as much time to read him nowadays.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@JeansiByxan It’s definitely a more manageable size, and it read fast for me!
@JohanHerrenberg
@JohanHerrenberg 3 года назад
I have read six of the ten books now and really need a pause. So your question was mine, too. I'd like to explore the Malazan world some more, without immediately diving into another 1200 pages. So I have ordered Dancer's Lament and will be reading the PtA novels as a breather...
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@JohanHerrenberg I think you’ll find it a nice change of pace. I hope you’ll enjoy it!
@theserpent6070
@theserpent6070 3 года назад
Bit late to this video. And, as always, it was a good one. And wow I got so much Malazan content in front of me lol
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Better late than never! And there’s really no rush. Yes, there are a lot of Malazan books when you count them all up, and a lot of excellent reading. There’s nothing like Malazan to get you cogitating!
@whiskeySe7en
@whiskeySe7en 3 года назад
Esselmont's style has grown on me. I still personally prefer Erickson's but this one is my favorite of esselmont's.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
I’ve loved everything by Esslemont so far. That said, Dancer’s Lament is my favorite book in Path to Ascendancy. I just read Stonewielder, and it blew me away.
@zan8152
@zan8152 3 года назад
Interested if/when you'll get to the ICE stand-alones - I'd certainly suggest them, but as books themselves I'm quite a bit more conflicted. Some I've enjoyed (Orb Sceptre Throne especially). But I hear once you get to Dancer's Lament, as you say his writing is quite good. Want to get there, but I've committed myself to finishing the others and got bogged down a bit. But - Though I haven't read this one I bet you're on to something with this being a nice introduction to the world. Malazan fans get very focused on "only the main 10 books, don't deviate" and... I think you're right, it turns people off. The series itself jumps perspective and time... it doesn't really feel to me that that order is particularly important other than "those are the fan favorites/best books/main series" I'd heartily recommend reading Night of Knives before Bonehunters for some backstory, and I can't see why throwing some of the prequel books in early on couldn't be a good thing.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Thanks! I think I’ll end up in the minority regarding the reading order, especially since Erikson and Esslemont recommend publication order. But for a Malazan newbie a bit scared of the scale and complexity of Malazan, I think Path to Ascendancy could be the way to go. I’m excited to read all of Esslemont’s contributions to the Malazan world. I know that opinions on The Novels of the Malazan Empire are a bit mixed, but Dancer’s Lament is solid evidence that Esslemont can reach great heights.
@zan8152
@zan8152 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Yeah - even the books of his I don't care for as much have held a lot of promise, and there's always that inherent comparison to Erickson, which... if didn't exist, I wonder if ICE would get much more respect, he's a solid author on his own. Night of Knives is the only Malazan thing I've ever disliked, and it's just so clearly a "First time author" thing it's hard to even dislike that much.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@zan8152 Yes, I personally would hate to have my writing compared to Steven Erikson’s all the time!
@bparsons1987
@bparsons1987 3 года назад
Is there spoileryness for someone going through Book of the Fallen for the first time? Or would it diminish the experience of going through the big 10 for the first time?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
Some fans of The Malazan Book of the Fallen would say that you won’t catch all the Easter eggs in Path to Ascendancy if you don’t read The Malazan Book of the Fallen and Novels of the Malazan Empire first. Personally, I think the Easter eggs work both ways. I don’t think you’d spoil anything for Book of the Fallen if you peek at Path to Ascendancy first. The latter portrays the founding of the Malazan Empire, when the Malazan old guard were young. I haven’t read everything in order, and I still love it all!
@josephk5654
@josephk5654 3 года назад
I quite enjoyed Dancer's Lament but my major problem was that Dancer and Kellanved simply did not feel like the same characters as they were in the MBOTF. I very much had the same issues with Night of Knives. SE and ICE write them both quite differently. The same being who has the "Do you believe in failure" talk with Edgewalker is not there in the pages of Lament. For me, ICE's books really shine when he is writing a more separate story with characters that make only cameo appearances in MBOTF and not those that have already been deeply explored. Compare this to the masterful job he did with the Crimson guard members who have just a few lines in MBOTF and were turned into easily some of the best stories ever put to page in Return of the Crimson Guard and Stonewielder.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
It's cool to get your perspective on this! I attributed the differences between the Dancer and Kellanved we see in Dancer's Lament from the Dancer and Kellanved we get in MBOTF to their ages. The youths in Dancer's Lament clearly have a lot to learn before they reach the status of Ascendants. But Dancer's stealth and his sometimes painful empathy are there, and I felt like "Wu" gave me the mad and often flustered genius that I would expect to grow into Kellanved. That said, what you say makes sense given that two authors, even those as close as these two, couldn't completely overlap in their presentation of a given character. Erikson and Esslemont for the most part had the good sense to focus on different characters in their respective contributions to the Malazan story. Thanks for the comment!
@josephk5654
@josephk5654 3 года назад
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Absolutely, I appreciate the excellent commentary you give on this and other works. It will be great to see your views post 2nd reading of MBOTF. For me there were some (In retrospective) huge interactions in the earlier books that completely slipped past me in the first reading without having the bigger picture to stick them into. I also agree with you wholeheartedly on ICE's style pairing well with this world. I also find he is more willing to deviate and play with the multiple story lines and convergence narrative structure far more than SE books do. Taken as a whole it sort of rounds out the experience of the full 16 books in ways that just the MBOTF books might lack.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
@@josephk5654 That’s awesome to hear! Even though I’ve read all ten books of The Malazan Book of the Fallen, I feel like I’m far from grasping the whole story. After the preparation of reading the prequels, I think I have a good shot at getting it on my second time through, especially since I’ll be reading Novels of the Malazan Empire along the way. It also helps a lot to hear from fans of the series like you!
@awallerfamily
@awallerfamily 3 года назад
Well i just subscribed. Love this series. Esslemonts best writting is this series and Orb Sceptre Throne . In my opinion.
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
In that case, I’m looking forward to Orb Sceptre Throne! I’ve heard mixed and negative opinions on some of Esslemont’s entries in Novels of the Malazan Empire, particularly Night of Knives, but I have to say I loved Dancer’s Lament, which is clear evidence to me that the guy can really write. I can’t wait to finish Path to Ascendancy and move on to my reread of the sixteen Malazan books! Thanks for the sub!
@lifesabeach2597
@lifesabeach2597 3 года назад
I kind of liked this one
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
It’s my favorite of the three books in Path to Ascendancy, but I enjoyed all three.
@jasonjenkyns5083
@jasonjenkyns5083 3 года назад
Spoilers here?
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy 3 года назад
I’m pretty sure you’re safe from spoilers in this one!
Далее
Cleaning🤣 #shorts #トイキッズ
00:18
Просмотров 10 млн
Они захватят этот мир🗿
00:48
Просмотров 920 тыс.
Malazan Reading Order for First Read and for Re-Read
25:07
Path to Ascendancy Spoiler Free Review!
7:13
Ranking Ian C. Esslemont's Malazan Novels
28:08