Review of the MPMIDI Controller 

and how if in the other end they want to midify the plugin settings without the controller? can they do it??

Okay…. First, I wanna tell you that I really appreciate you taking the time to write a long useful comment. Short & Sweet, AKA useless comments are the norm, but these actually Add something other than opinion to the discussion. So Thank You. Now, I’ve been eyeing the MP for the past couple of years, it’s on my: ‘I already have too much stuff and too little space’ list. I use an X-Touch w 3 Extenders (32-channels), and Console 1 (with all the emulations, and many Softube and Universal Audio plugins), plus a 1920x1080 Artist Monitor Pen Tablet angled in front of the console 1 controller (like a laptop screen). I have many DAWs but Reaper has become my primary due to its unparalleled configurability. So I can have a massive mix session spilled across the Control Surface in banks of 32, and each channel can be selected from the mouse, the Faders, or the Console 1 and ALL the others adjust accordingly. Furthermore, the Reaper FX chain window is full screen on the Artists Monitor and follows the selected channel, so whatever channel is selected, it’s “focused plugin” pops up on screen at the same time as its channel strip shows up on the Console 1 surface, and at the click of a button it’s On-Screen Display is superimposed over the Reaper FX window. I hope that makes sense. Bottom line: the whole mix across the faders, the individual channel on the Console 1 knobs AND on screen adjustable by Artist’s Pen (or Mouse, Trackball, Trackpad…). Now that I’ve had this amazing setup, I’ve wondered about switching the Stylus/Pen Monitor for a Multi-Touch monitor instead. The MP MIDI, which seems to get lost in people’s reviews, is Also a Multi-Touch monitor. And finally, the reason for this response to Your comment… I like you Also use Blue Cat Patchwork. I’m guessing that you’re more in production using VIs, and I’m mostly mixing and using Effects, so in addition to all the reasons you mentioned above I also love Patchwork for the Serial-Parallel-Serial processing monster that it is. So the burning questions for me are: Can I run Patchwork full-screen on MP MIDI, and map 32-knobs to the 40-macros? You can run Patchwork (or MB-7) inside of Patchwork, so a wrapper in a wrapper, does it still work with MP MIDI or does it get lost? Can the MP MIDI follow the Selected Channel from the DAW the way Console 1, SSL 360, and Reaper’s FX Chain Window can? How “buggy” is the touchscreen/encoder experience with MP MIDI, can it be seamless, or does it make you still reach for the mouse? If all of that checks out, then (once they’re available again) it seems that swapping out my plugin screen is about to give me even further superpowers! I’d Love your thoughts! You’re in a pretty elite club…and I’m jealous.

@@bluematrix5001 Yes they can, it's like BC patchwork which is also a wrapper

@@G_handle I would load the MP on Patchwork, not the other way. It makes more sense. It works! So, basically instead of using their multihost plugin, if you want to have parallel chains etc, you can load a bunch of MP singles in Patchwork, save that as a Patchwork preset and boom! (I have loaded a patchwork within a patchwork myself in the past, with chains of fx mostly being disabled, just to have the option to power them on when/if needed 😆)

@Sir Andrew Pie Thanks for the reply! Okay, I'm trying to understand why that way would be better. But first, the second part of your message Auditioning and Disabling chains FAST is exactly what BCPW is great for. So as of now, for simplicity's sake, I imagine 64 tracks each with Console 1, and Patchwork plugins on every channel. C1 gives me 8 full desks to choose from, but hundreds of different configurations once I start swapping out sections. Crazy options, crazy fast. PW gives me the ultimate Inserts with endless processing capabilities. Many presets and bypassed option ready to instantly audition. Now to my mind, sticking those wrappers inside of MP wrappers just allows the BCPW to work the same, but now with 32-knobs and a multi-touch screen dedicated and mapped. Consistently mapped, so that the same say Compressor knobs (Threshold, Ratio, Attack, Release, etc ) are in the same place on every plugin, regardless of the GUI. BCPW essentially replaces the Inserts on any DAW and your settings are the same on every DAW. So with everything on 1 SSD and an iLok, your virtual toolbox is mobile. Now, probably because I haven't USED the MP Midi yet, I don't see it as a replacement for BCPW. I see it as adding dedicated tactile control TO PW, almost in the same way you mentioned Diva. Whatever else it can do is kinda bonus in my current thinking, unless it does something incredibly well that I'm just missing. But mapping ALL of my plugins directly to MP rather than directly to PW, then PW to MP doesn't seem to be as powerful, or as fast or streamlined. What am I missing?

Still the Centre piece??? How about when exchanging sessions any problems ??? Thanks

can you plug a separate mouse into this for fine-tune control? or perhaps this controller also has on the display keyboard buttons SHIFT ,CNTRL, CMD, because sometimes in plugs like eq plugs and others when you hold one of those you get slower more accurate sweep on the eg. fre/gain/q.

looks cool, im thinking together one!

🤔 🤔🤔👍

No problem 😊

Dude I think you might need to load their Instrument plugin :)

@@StudioTunes-pg4un Had to create “soft links” to point to VST locations on my other drive. That fixed the issue of not seeing all the plugins

It's possible, you just start recording in your DAW and then move the knobs you want to automate.

Go to their website. They have Ableton sorted out.

It's not slow. See the videos on the mp controller's channel.

I've been watching this controller and it has been sold out 3 times since 2020. I am on the reservation list for the next batch.

But if this slow is not so good

@@leirumanuel Slow in what sense?

@@StudioTunes-pg4un The video reports an issue of The software when loading Big projects

Ha! Yes I'm a sucker for controllers I actually do have a S1. And even though I like the MP MIDI I don't think I will be keeping it. I think the best setup I have found ( for Pro Tools) is an S1 and the Rocksolid audio Micro4k. I'll do a video soon on how I'm using both

@Matty Harris I do remember seeing a S1 in one of your videos! Yeah if I was locking myself into Pro Tools, a pair of S1s and a Dock is the way to go. A) have you tried a Dock, and if not B) have you setup Eucontrol on an iPad even without the Dock? Everyone focuses on the Faders and Knobs for obvious reasons, but most DAWs have an iPad app that gets missed. When you set em up it makes navigating the DAW, Windows, Tracks, Regions, Etc. far easier IMHO. And Eucon really started it all, although the Studio One app is good too.

they added pinch to zoom

You are right

Wow, you have just negated a whole industry 🤣

someone who doesn't like using two hands i take it?

There is always a hater.

I should have been more clear. The wrapper doesn’t accept AAX. But the plug-in is AAX. So you can work in pro tools

@@mixedbymattycould you use AAX plugins within the program by chance? 👀

@@mixedbymatty so messy....... sounds so fragile and neanderthal...... for mastering I give it to you... but for Pro Mixing??? ....

They would open it like every other project. See my comment on top 😀 you can open DAW sessions without the controller being connected and collaborate with others that don't have the controller. Just need to install the host plugin