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Review of the new Toshiba Aurex ‘Hi-Res Cassette deck’ 

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Toshiba in Japan has launched a High Res capable cassette recorder. What exactly does that mean and is it any good? Let's find out.
Special thanks to Hugo for his work on the audio analysis.
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Комментарии : 3 тыс.   
@Techmoan
@Techmoan 6 лет назад
****** HUMOUR WARNING ***** In one part of the video I make a humorous reference to all the dust on the machine (to avoid people feeling they have to message me about it) - and as a joke, I state "I'll be having a strong word with the housekeeper". This joke has resulted in complaints. People are angry that I will be speaking to the house staff in such a manner. The thing they haven't spotted though is that this was a joke - the joke is that it's ridiculous that I'd have a housekeeper. I chose the word housekeeper rather than cleaner because I was attempting to make the phrase as preposterous as possible - because pretty much no one has a housekeeper nowadays. It's more of a Downton Abbey or Upstairs Downstairs kind of era (and then only in wealthy houses) - the kind of thing that died out well over fifty years ago. Occasionally people who don't have time to clean and can afford it might have a cleaner come in once a week - but that's still a very rare thing. I've never met anyone who doesn't clean their own house - and I'm the same. The joke was that obviously I'd be the person on the end of the 'strong word' - so I'd be telling myself off for not dusting. Yes, jokes aren't funny when you have to explain them. I suppose this is a good example of humour not travelling well. I suspect that the people who didn't get the joke aren't from the UK, so perhaps they think that housekeepers are a thing here. They've seen episodes of shows like Downton Abbey or watched films like Mary Poppins and think that everyone in 'Merry old England' wears a bowler hat and carries an umbrella and goes to work on a red bus and each house has a staff of cooks and maids and a butler. Anyway now I'm just off to hang some clothes on the washing line before getting the vacuum cleaner out - that's real life. So please try to lighten up, don't be so ready to get offended - life is too short to spend it looking for things that wind you up.
@CousinHubertRetrogaming
@CousinHubertRetrogaming 6 лет назад
I love british humaaaaaa! from a french guy over side of the channel Continue entertaining us plzzz
@Bastimon
@Bastimon 6 лет назад
RU-vid comment sections are a magical place.
@kikurass322
@kikurass322 6 лет назад
There's a word for these people Mr.Moan.....'WANKERS!'.
@Das1x
@Das1x 6 лет назад
I feel offended by your Warning! Now I can't make up my own decision about weather or not this joke would have offended me. And I feel offended by your statement that life is short! I have a big life time! Even my wife said so!
@TheRestartPoint
@TheRestartPoint 6 лет назад
Oh c'mon, everyone knows if you have to explain a joke it isn't funny. You'll have to be a bit less subtle next time, you're too clever for your own good :)
@LGR
@LGR 6 лет назад
Thank you for your service. Yet another previously-tempting retro device I can happily avoid now!
@big-g1980
@big-g1980 6 лет назад
Plus it's not in woodgrain
@rekkanoryo
@rekkanoryo 6 лет назад
Wood grain patterned contact paper is a thing...
@ChintanPandya01
@ChintanPandya01 6 лет назад
And aren't you his best friend! LOL. Just kidding. Couldn't help it.
@MarkTheMorose
@MarkTheMorose 6 лет назад
Like this comment if, when you read an LGR comment, the voice in your head is Duke Nukem's.
@rjpolancov
@rjpolancov 6 лет назад
Thanks Techmoan and LGR. I love your shows and the elegant humor. Puppets are just awesome! Greetings from El Salvador.
@ww6156
@ww6156 3 года назад
Having not seen the video yet, I can't help but think "if there's a magical button to make it sound better, why not always make it sound better... why does it need a button?" Haha
@OldAussieAds
@OldAussieAds 3 года назад
How else can you make your audio sound a bit shitty for a while if you're in the mood for shitty audio?
@ZX3000GT1
@ZX3000GT1 3 года назад
It's the same with frame rate interpolators in some TVs. It's a scam.
@GayDingo
@GayDingo 2 года назад
My old Sony HiFi has a button like this and you can actually hear a difference and with it on it does sound better.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 года назад
It's like how every new car nowadays has a "go faster" button... Rather than that being just a matter of stepping harder on the gas
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Год назад
@@ZX3000GT1 Long ago comment, but in that case it really does make a big difference, visible to the eye. Some people dont like that difference though, and prefer the normal fram rate. There is sometimes also artifacting involved that some are more sensitive to than others. So all in all, there are good reasons for there to be an on and off setting, my projector even got 5 levels. So not a scam, like this can be said to be.
@diamondsmasher
@diamondsmasher 6 лет назад
This comment has been up converted, it's better than all the other comments.
@aarongresser2996
@aarongresser2996 5 лет назад
Hope it wasn’t up converted on this Toshiba!
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 5 лет назад
Really? Like the button on the player, I can’t tell.
@keithdubois1521
@keithdubois1521 5 лет назад
How does this new unit stand up to a second hand Nikamichi?
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 5 лет назад
Masterful comic timing, Sir. I stand before you awaiting further instruction.
@LarixusSnydes
@LarixusSnydes 4 года назад
@@keithdubois1521 I'd choose the Nakamichi any day, provided that it was one from the golden years when the machines were still made in Japan.
@Satnavtomington
@Satnavtomington 6 лет назад
I see more than two minutes left when the patreon credits start, and get excited for the puppets!
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
Fantastic puppets 😀
@nicomonkeyboy
@nicomonkeyboy 6 лет назад
Upvote for puppets
@daanwilmer
@daanwilmer 6 лет назад
I always skip forward to the "Childish and unfunny" muppets (sorry patrons)
@calebbell5018
@calebbell5018 6 лет назад
Yesssss! I always am disappointed when I skip to the end and just see the reel-to-reel outro...FLIPPIN 'ECK
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty 6 лет назад
Actually their comments were exactly what was always said about quality hi-fi equipment!
@adnvdn
@adnvdn 6 лет назад
It seems as time goes on, manufacturers can slap a Hi-Res logo sticker on any audio device. This thing was a disgrace.
@MysteryMii
@MysteryMii 5 лет назад
Anders Ljungberg And of any frequency above 44.1k Hz.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 5 лет назад
@@Andersljungberg That is all? Geez, that 'Hi-Res' "certificate" is really worthless then! I'd like to call that fraud, but it technically isn't, it's just misleading...
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel 4 года назад
@@Andersljungberg That is the requirement, 24 bit/96 kHz FLAC and WAV. The thing is that it's now cheap to buy a DAC that does that, regardless of the speakers and output electronics. www.jas-audio.or.jp/english/hi-res-logo-en
@fakiirification
@fakiirification 4 года назад
the kind of people who would buy this would not own any hi-fi equipment and franky, anything more than a phone speaker probably sounds amazing to them.
@life5161
@life5161 4 года назад
Funny. I was just thinking whoever came up with that Hi Res logo is Genius
@locust76
@locust76 6 лет назад
“I’ve seen better LCDs on a Tamagotchi” Loooool!
@HowardLive
@HowardLive 6 лет назад
Salamihawk Savage. 😎
@Chris5685
@Chris5685 6 лет назад
sik burn
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад
Salamihawk That LCD was limited, not just by it's price, but also by the crazy idea to stick it in the cassette player lid where you're supposed to have a window to see the tape position.
@DouglasMilewski
@DouglasMilewski 6 лет назад
I adore your easygoing attitude and the humor. You're an audiophile after my own heart. You make it fun rather than a competition, which is what it's about, isn't it?
@stephencunningham1819
@stephencunningham1819 6 лет назад
I wholeheartedly agree
@alkestos
@alkestos 2 года назад
He's not an audiophile is what you're saying. We audiophiles like to suck all the fun out of the hobby and make it solely about worshipping expensive pieces of gear. To hell with actually listening the music. I listen to only frequency sweeps from 20hz-96khz and constantly claim I can hear or rather "sense" sounds over the 20khz limit.
@mudsh4rk
@mudsh4rk 6 лет назад
"Hi-res... records to digital media as 192kbps mp3...
@AndersEngerJensen
@AndersEngerJensen 6 лет назад
And I was hoping it could be a viable option to getting one of those old premium players. Ah well, I guess we’re better off finding some good ones on ebay. ;) The audio engineer in me looks very sceptically at the whole Up Convert thingy claiming it can re-create something that isn’t there... 🤨 That’s just like upscaling images and you get anti aliasing because the data is not there anymore. «Emperor’s New Feature» indeed. Great review though, as always! :D
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
Anders Enger Jensen Good observation 😊
@makaylaserniotti1474
@makaylaserniotti1474 6 лет назад
Anders Enger Jensen On the bright side we were treated to your music
@TheRealColBosch
@TheRealColBosch 6 лет назад
Exactly. I cannot see how to add data that just isn't there, especially since this is clearly designed to output to modern, low-range speakers. Such a shame, since it could be a great unit that leverages modern production methods to make high-end tech available again.
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 6 лет назад
Apparently the only thing needed to get the Hi-Res badge is to move more bits through than the CD Audio standard. No requirements whatsoever for the source. Pointless.
@kFY514
@kFY514 6 лет назад
Actually, upscaling images can be really impressive. Of course, it's not as good as having a better resolution source, but by running some AI on GPUs you can get some pretty amazing results, especially for cartoon- or anime-type images. Check out the waifu2x algorithm at its home github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x or on this impressive demo: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N9Mz3aCbPOI.html I can't see any reason why you couldn't do the same with audio. Unfortunately, the domain of audio is plagued with people who claim and rate things based on some voodoo instead of any even remotely scientific methods, so even if there were some truly amazing algorithm to recover what has been lost on inferior formats or masters, finding that true gem in the sea of rubbish would be a great challenge. And, as the puppet section pointed out, most people can't even hear the difference between CD quality and hi-res - at least if we're talking about fully mastered mixes, hi-res during production is a completely different story. But imagine an AI that could recover the dynamics from overcompressed CDs! That actually doesn't seem impossible...
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 6 лет назад
"...not really 'low end', it's just *THE* end." Okay, I laughed out loud at that one. Then cried. Then died a little inside.
@superbird6176
@superbird6176 6 лет назад
That's some good syllables Eminem! 😎
@dawge30
@dawge30 6 лет назад
Um... Yup. Sigh...
@tubical71
@tubical71 6 лет назад
Why, just get yourself a decent tapedeck, a nice turntable along with a cool amplifier and great speakers and have fun listening to all these obsolete stuff, of which we (as we where born in the old age, prior 2000;) all familiar with...and stop thinking about phones, mp3 and stuff...but if you do, simply turn the volume knob right until your mind is made up right ;)
@rarapas
@rarapas 6 лет назад
Same here :) :( :S :X
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
TubiCal And bin your cheap bluetooth speakers and plastic rubbish with ceramic cartridges 😊
@StevenOBrien
@StevenOBrien 4 года назад
In Audacity, if you use the Invert function on one waveform, line things up perfectly, and then mix it with the one you're comparing with, it'll subtract whatever's the same and leave only what's different between the two. Might be useful for future videos.
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 2 года назад
love your profile pic
@jakobole
@jakobole 2 года назад
Right. But your forgot one point. You need to swap the fase on one of the recordings
@VFuzball
@VFuzball Год назад
You could totally do this with CDs but there’s not a chance you’d be able to do this with a tape, especially on this machine, due to the wow and flutter differences between two recordings.
@rin6521
@rin6521 Год назад
@@VFuzball What he said. He's used the technique before and that's exactly right. you could sync the waveform up, but there's just too much pollution there,
@jhutt8002
@jhutt8002 8 месяцев назад
​@@VFuzballFunnily enough, when you search about ripping CD's online, you find a ton of info how you should use EAC, accuraterip etc... And basic free ripping software, or gasp! OS' own is bad. However the fact that you can do that with ang CD's so easily proves that any basic ripping software does 100 % perfect rips, save for rare damaged CD or issues with CD reader. Those slow complicated software to fix and verify are just another example of snakeoil in audio.
@RoyBatty1980
@RoyBatty1980 6 лет назад
“I think it was replaced...by Minecraft.” God bless Techmoan.
@joshuarosen6242
@joshuarosen6242 6 лет назад
Unquestionably an upgrade in my opinion. ToTP was terrible.
@Kuraio
@Kuraio 6 лет назад
Wow that LCD screen screams cheapness. They could've at least made it inverted to better match the color of the face plate.
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 6 лет назад
That's like something out of a 90s novelty calculator. Pathetic.
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
Increased rubbish for an inflated price 😕
@MarJay1980
@MarJay1980 6 лет назад
This kind of video makes me feel good to be alive. It's not something I would have sought out on RU-vid necessarily (I'm not really a Cassette fan or anything) but I so appreciate the effort that has gone into this video not only from a technical standpoint but to make the subject interesting to pretty much any viewer. No wonder Techmoan is often cited as a channel that other popular youtubers subscribe to. Well done sir! Well done!
@KX36
@KX36 6 лет назад
"How many bits is Hi Res then?" "Oh, all of them.." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace 6 лет назад
The most damning thing about this is how you can hold it in one hand like it's a piece of styrofoam.
@matthewburroughs9597
@matthewburroughs9597 6 лет назад
Thought that too as i was watching, quality home audio kit should be satisfyingly heavy.
@swinde
@swinde 6 лет назад
I think it means it is mostly cheap plastic and the cassette player will last about a year before the wear on the plastic parts will render the tape deck useless. The CD could last longer since these parts are primarily used for loading and ejecting. This thing should cost less than 100 us dollars.
@matthewburroughs9597
@matthewburroughs9597 6 лет назад
Good quality HI FI should really hurt if you hit someone with it.
@rich_edwards79
@rich_edwards79 6 лет назад
Steve Lovelace - Agreed. You won't be able to do the same with that Dragon, that's for certain!
@StefanConstantinDumitrache
@StefanConstantinDumitrache 6 лет назад
Yeah, they should take some cues from Beats, maybe some advice from Dr. Dre?
@Shermanbay
@Shermanbay 4 года назад
RE: Vocal Down function: This works by putting the stereo tracks out of phase, then combining them. Since most pop mixes put the main vocal in the center, this procedure results in nearly complete cancellation of the main vocal (or anything else that is mixed mono center). However, many audio mix engineers like to pan the echo from the main vocal left-right even though the soloist is mono center. This means that the vocal down function will fail to cancel the echo, even if it works for the main. That's what your brief test sounds like to me.
@Headpotatoes
@Headpotatoes 6 лет назад
You know the sound quality is Huge between Nakamichi and Toshiba when you can hear it on RU-vid with a crappy tablet
@Headpotatoes
@Headpotatoes 6 лет назад
Ending was brilliant :D
@CrowAndRedString
@CrowAndRedString 6 лет назад
Pretty shocking, even the source was an MP3. Being there in person it must sound as good as a CD, from a cassette. Very impressive.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад
Tsuokari I could even hear it through the 10x2mm (approx) mono speaker on my phone! They must have gone out of their way to make it this crappy.
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
John Francis Doe Me too x AWFUL 😊
@MetalTrabant
@MetalTrabant 4 года назад
I even heard the huge difference on a 3 cm diameter noname Chinese Bluetooth speaker... (which is surprisingly good quality despite the size).
@ZylonFPV
@ZylonFPV 6 лет назад
The dragon sounded infinitely better than this plastic monstrosity 😛
@webfischi
@webfischi 6 лет назад
Yes it had much clearer treble, it'S a real shame no one still producing high quality tape heads
@spikester
@spikester 6 лет назад
Any deck with auto azimuth will trample anything without, its sad that more midrange decks didn't get this tech as no two cassettes are ever recorded the same.
@TheSpliceofLife
@TheSpliceofLife 6 лет назад
Although the Dragon is a bit of a beast itself. So many buttons and knobs! It looks like a prop team grabbed hold of a regular tape deck from the golden days and shoved more buttons and knobs in every available space as a prelude to putting it in a science fiction film.
@IanDunbar1
@IanDunbar1 6 лет назад
Even I could hear a very obvious difference, and I've got a bit of a tin-ear when it comes to audio quality.
@Gigidag77
@Gigidag77 6 лет назад
Better find a bank to rob to afford one...
@EdWatts
@EdWatts 6 лет назад
"The emperor's new up convert button"! RU-vid gold!
@CandyAppleBlue
@CandyAppleBlue 6 лет назад
Like the high-end audio cables mentioned in this video, we must have been "gold-plated and kissed by the pope" to be lucky enough to have our music featured for a second time on your channel. Even though the high-resolution feature of the Toshiba Aurex Hi-Res Cassette Deck turned out to be a bit of a disappointment, your puppet show at the end of the video was a clever smashing success. Bravo!
@makaylaserniotti1474
@makaylaserniotti1474 6 лет назад
Candy Apple Blue I'm loving the new album, guys!
@dennisg2169
@dennisg2169 6 лет назад
Candy Apple Blue II
@CandyAppleBlue
@CandyAppleBlue 6 лет назад
Thank you Makayla! Appreciate that very much. Your comment is music to our ears!
@-_-_m
@-_-_m 6 лет назад
It’s not all a disappointment. The vocal down effect sounded really cool. Might be a good sound for a middle eight.
@BPantherPink
@BPantherPink 6 лет назад
Never heard of you guys before but definitely from now on, I'll be hearing much more of you !!
@Bob_Burton
@Bob_Burton 6 лет назад
"30 is the maximum volume" Better than 11 then
@MosoKaiser
@MosoKaiser 6 лет назад
"It's 19 louder."
@TailsFurse
@TailsFurse 6 лет назад
Yea, but it doesn't sound better than 11.
@MosoKaiser
@MosoKaiser 6 лет назад
It goes to 30.
@mogshade66
@mogshade66 6 лет назад
UKHeliBob I get the Spinal Tap reference 😈
@mikeey6804
@mikeey6804 3 года назад
What's interesting to me (as a 20-something) about cassette is how much technology there was surrounding it that was dedicated to making it sound better. Tape formulations, Dolby Noise Reduction of different types, direct-drive mechanism, etc. There was an entire industry dedicated to making them sound better than they did when they were introduced.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 2 года назад
That's what humans do with music. You could argue that the development of modern instruments was already the same... from simple strings or lyres (handheld harps) to violins, from simple spinets or similar things to pianofortes... and when they invented recording media like wax cylinders or well "records" they did the same, trying to find a way to make it sound better, to improve the experience, to make it vibe better... call it however you want... people always look for just the tad more enjoyment in arts.
@chengfansoon1534
@chengfansoon1534 2 года назад
We don't need that industry (to make tape sound better), if a the beginning when Philips invent the cassette Philips engineers decided to use a higher tape speed (20% higher) and a wider tape (20% wider). Same thing happen to CD, the Philips and SONY engineer decided to use 44.1 Khz sampling rate which is just enough to recording the highest frequency 20KHz audio that human ear can heard (Based the theory ). But Real World is always different from the Theory. Now although you have High-Res (higher sampling rate digital audio and DSD) but if the master tape is still 44.1KHz sampling rate than there is no benefit gain (in audio quality) whether you are using High-Resolution audio or not. Same thing happened to CD player-an entire industry dedicated to making/produce CD player which they claim sound better which cost you at least US$5,000 for one so called "Top model High End CD player"
@lovedeathdisco
@lovedeathdisco Год назад
@@chengfansoon1534​that's interesting. if i'm not mistaking you're saying both formats more or less needed more "headroom" [metaphorically] in their quality. but they instead cut corners to develop something more cost efficient. it seems to always come down to money, and on the average consumer end it's not much different, whatever will get the job done. love tapes and wish there was a more established standard. seems like much of its initial phasing out was due to misinformation, consumer level products and somewhat lack of care going into making them. i feel they have decent potential, but it's a confusing thing to navigate even suggesting a friend where to buy a tape player. so much potential, yet so many variables.
@freesaxon6835
@freesaxon6835 6 лет назад
£142 is daylight robbery
@tcphvacr9950
@tcphvacr9950 6 лет назад
"The Emperor's new up convert", love it. And the puppet bit was pretty funny too, and about sums it up.
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 3 года назад
Even with RU-vid's audio compression, the Dragon still sounded clearer. God that thing is a real sexy beast.
@Daijyobanai
@Daijyobanai 3 года назад
I have a garage full of new old stock Dragons if you want one for a £50. Nah, I'm kidding, but it was worth it to feel the Earth's population's collective pulse rise for a second.
@L4ftyOne
@L4ftyOne 4 месяца назад
Nobody cares ​@@Daijyobanai
@Daijyobanai
@Daijyobanai 4 месяца назад
@@L4ftyOne y u so sad? :(
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 6 лет назад
Even through laptop speakers, with RU-vid's compression, the Nakamichi sounds phenomenally better... frequency response, stereo separation, less distortion.
@alexe8375
@alexe8375 6 лет назад
Same effect over my older phone's degrading speakers. The high end is just miles ahead.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 лет назад
It's also markedly better on an iPad with one small speaker. Never thought I'd ever say that about hi-fi kit.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 6 лет назад
Wow... with only one speaker, you don't even experience the amazing difference in stereo separation, which I find is the big difference.
@AltimaNEO
@AltimaNEO 6 лет назад
It was so damned clear compared to that Toshiba junker.
@mspenrice
@mspenrice 6 лет назад
To be honest, I'd expect my old salvaged Aiwa deck to give a better performance than this... or even the tacky but cherished old Amstrad CD-1000 microsystem mouldering in the back of one of my cupboards. Its effective frequency range (if we use the usual standard of the cutoff being where the amplitude of high-intensity white noise falls to 10db below peak) looks to be something like 150hz at the bottom end to not more than 10khz at the top, which is the kind of performance I'd have expected from one of those five quid Argos ownbrand personal stereos from the mid 90s ... like, the ultra basic ones which didn't even have a rewind function, only play and fastfoward (...which was just play without the pinch roller being pushed onto the capstan or the head onto the tape). Except this thing costs about 40x more. I mean, they probably still wouldn't stand up to the Dragon, but they'd all come a lot closer to it's performance than that of the Aurex. The difference was pretty stark even on my laptop with its tinny built-in speakers, one of which isn't even working properly so I've only really got the right-hand channel (which seems to be badly overamplified in compensation)...
6 лет назад
The sampling rate on that (obviously) digital VU meter is just horrible. But at least the whole machine is horrible :D The muppet segment at the end is just golden :)
@alasholyweek7
@alasholyweek7 5 лет назад
Techmoan is like the retrotech savy grandpa I've never had. Thank you Techmoan for allowing me to have this experience.
@oliverwortley3822
@oliverwortley3822 3 года назад
that’s exactly how i feel. he’s very warm, friendly and inviting to watch. it’s very comforting to watch him and his videos. he’s like the grandad i never had 😂
@AltCutTV
@AltCutTV 3 года назад
Mine was pretty much exactly like the puppet. Apart from being green. Well, greenish at least.
@alkestos
@alkestos 2 года назад
Grandpa?! Oh god you make me have a mid-life crisis with such statements...
@miguelnglopes
@miguelnglopes 6 лет назад
What a disappointment of a product... I'm really getting used to the idea that the world ended sometime after 1991... :(
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 лет назад
CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG “any of that music”?? Doubt it.
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 6 лет назад
200 dollars for a piece of, to be blatantly honest, crap... they must be mad?! The kind that should go in the loony bin. This type of machine would cost 40 dollars, or maybe 30 in a sale. Well, if we were back in the 90s at least.
@wilsoncalhoun
@wilsoncalhoun 6 лет назад
$200? I saw it listed on Amazon for $400 and a bit. Absolutely shameless.
@LogiForce86
@LogiForce86 6 лет назад
Joshua Noble Makes me wonder what my Sony WM-DD33 Walkman would go for, as it is in excellent condition, including a new center gear bought from Marian at Stereo2go. If I go by the logic that the better the product the more it is worth, I think new it would be 2000 dollars and second hand maybe 1200 dollars? Lmao... I know they are in the 250-300 dollar range if I remember well.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 лет назад
LogiForce86 piece of ahit.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 6 лет назад
I can't believe that anyone in JAPAN of all places, (The land that "gave" the world so many damned good tape recorders) would pay that much for this!
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 6 лет назад
Jasper Janssen $102 in 1992 would be WORSE considering that back then $102 would have been enough for a decent tape deck.
@sdar120
@sdar120 5 лет назад
I do not regard the table top unit as junk. True it is no where near the performance of a Nakamichi DRAGON or a ZX-9 (I regard the ZX-9 as better than the DRAGON). It does illustrate that the cassette format is a phenomenal medium to listen to music. Perhaps Toshiba (Aurex) will have another go at it and make a new and improved machine. Long live the cassette!!
@halvardlund4782
@halvardlund4782 3 года назад
Long live the cassette!!!
@WaybackTECH
@WaybackTECH 6 лет назад
"Up Convert" button might as well be the" Got Yo Monay Fool!" button instead.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 6 лет назад
WaybackTECH it DOES upconvert junk into cash.
@Loundsify
@Loundsify 6 лет назад
WaybackTECH it sounded like it added slightly more bass?
@kjererrrt9057
@kjererrrt9057 6 лет назад
THE CHINESE STYLE LMAO
@fordtechchris
@fordtechchris 6 лет назад
So many products from the East are built with exactly this sentiment.
@jennoscura2381
@jennoscura2381 6 лет назад
What have I, what have I, what have I done to deserve this.....crappy tape player.
@alain99v6
@alain99v6 6 лет назад
Aurex used to be the premium line of Toshiba , this looks like an insult to the brand
@tyttuut
@tyttuut 5 лет назад
There's a very clear difference in audio quality between the Dragon and the Aurex, even on my phone speakers.
@robertfletcher3421
@robertfletcher3421 6 лет назад
Very sad that even the Japanese have stepped this low in quality.
@2prtv
@2prtv 6 лет назад
Not just sad.... more like frightening. :(
@markm0000
@markm0000 6 лет назад
Japan is freaking dead man. As soon as their elderly population die off the country will basically have to bootstrap themselves back into the modern world. There is a massive problem between their traditions and what you need to do in order to de-stress workers and re-populate your country.
@Luke-san
@Luke-san 6 лет назад
I felt excited when I saw the box and a known brand. Then I saw the plastic, bad print of the letters etc. I was expecting an alu casing and something made with proud. I think some people would buy a fantastic machine like that even for 400 USD. I have a Panasonic radio 'boombox' with cassette and cd that was purchased in '92. It looks and probably sounds 100x better than this crap. Even the quality of the cassette mechanism is really nice. Disappointed in this new stuff is an understatement.
@davidjohntough9115
@davidjohntough9115 6 лет назад
Simply because the majority no longer bother about sound quality!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 лет назад
There are so-called sound engineers who think that 256kb MP3 is hi-fi. They've probably never heard anything recorded which can reproduce 20Hz to 20kHz with less than 3dB of level variation. Even the 'best' MP3 cuts off anything outside 50Hz to 14kHz, and then throws away 90% of what's left.
@אולדסקול
@אולדסקול 6 лет назад
Now I need diamond-coated cables kissed by the pope. Does that add angelic fidelity?
@macartm
@macartm 6 лет назад
Dunno, but I could send you some water blessed by Les Paul to sprinkle over everything. Only $1,999 for 10ml ;) Supplied in an oxygen free plastic bottle.
@ColtGColtG
@ColtGColtG 5 лет назад
@@macartm is the bottle BPA free? Personally I prefer that water to have been shipped in in hand blown glass bottles by Jimi Hendrix made with only the highest quality free range organic sand and corked by Brian May
@deadmetalbr
@deadmetalbr 5 лет назад
Holier-than-thou fidelity.
@Preditor65
@Preditor65 6 лет назад
I think the best brand new cassette deck out there right now is the Tascam CD-A580. Even though it's $400 if you want new that's the only option that comes anywhere close to the standards set when good equipment was being manufactured. It supports normal, chrome and metal but does not have dolby. BTW I just found this channel and it's spot on man!
@presterjohn71
@presterjohn71 6 лет назад
I started to dabble with Hi-Res, until it dawned on me that at 52 I was not in a position to get the benefit. It's quite dispiriting but sadly you can't buy your way into hearing better than an 18 year old.
@kellypg
@kellypg 6 лет назад
presterjohn71 I've dwelled far too long on this thought.
@humanmold
@humanmold 6 лет назад
presterjohn71 I know what you mean,I miss my old hearing ☹
@That_Handle
@That_Handle 6 лет назад
presterjohn71 , Eh !? Whadja say there!?
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 6 лет назад
It's not so bad when you realize that the entire range from 10kHz to 20kHz is just one octave. There's plenty of remaining music to be enjoyed, so just get on with it and don't worry unless mixing audio is your job. :)
@dmproductions9484
@dmproductions9484 6 лет назад
Vivian Stimpson I'm almost 50, and I'm STILL confused every day! :)
@danwoodward23
@danwoodward23 6 лет назад
That dragon machine is badass
@mistermatix8241
@mistermatix8241 6 лет назад
Dan Woodward It's an extremely high end deck, that's why! Absolutely legendary amongst hifi enthusiasts!
@dawicked2k8
@dawicked2k8 6 лет назад
THE DRAGON OF AUDIO!
@danwoodward23
@danwoodward23 6 лет назад
You'd never see it in cash converters!
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 6 лет назад
A guy is riping his old Depeche Mode bootleg live recordings on a Dragon. AMAZING. You can reach him there www.depechemode-live.com/wiki/Main_Page
@tubical71
@tubical71 6 лет назад
The dragon, is ok for all non-pro audio guys...if you want a nice pro audio deck: tascam 234 (MK-II or a modified one to have the usual 1 7/8 IPS) or 322, eumig FL-1000, revox B-215, Marantz Professional Pmd-300cp, just to name a few....
@silvermica
@silvermica 5 лет назад
My guess is that the vocal down function requires a mono vocal and stereo instruments. So, how good it works really depends on the recording.
@pineappleroad
@pineappleroad 3 года назад
from my experience, most vocal removal functions (even the one in the 3DS) are set up like that (I played around with the vocal removal function on the 3DS quite a bit, and some tracks come out really weird with it turned on)
@psistis80
@psistis80 6 лет назад
OMG.I have heard about the mighty Nakamichi Dragon,but i never thought i would never see one work in action to realise the quality.Thanks Techmoan.You allways surprise me even more with every video you upload.
@adrianredodo
@adrianredodo 6 лет назад
www.ebay.es/sch/items/?_nkw=nakamichi+dragon&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&rmvSB=true :S
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 6 лет назад
I own one of those cheap JVC decks and they sound pretty good. I'd love to own a NAK.
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 6 лет назад
Skip to 23:20 for "funny, grown-up, & smart" puppets. "You'll need a source..." "Like bar-be-que?" Best accent humor ever!
@Stefan-
@Stefan- 6 лет назад
Yeah that was great !
@colinjohnston8519
@colinjohnston8519 6 лет назад
Anonymous Freak or just watch the whole video and enjoy it all?
@AnonymousFreakYT
@AnonymousFreakYT 6 лет назад
Colin Johnston It was counter-teasing those who complain about the puppets.
@TintagelEmrys
@TintagelEmrys 3 года назад
Am I the only one wondering why all the buttons are labeled in English?
@davidfrank693
@davidfrank693 13 дней назад
English labeling is common in Japan. Why? No idea lol. Speaking English is nowhere near as common as it is in Europe, yet English words are used in advertising and popular media. Could be they just think it’s neat lol, but I don’t speak Japanese so I’ve never asked.
@video99couk
@video99couk 6 лет назад
16:27 The moment he says "The Best Cassette Recorder Ever Made" I blurt out "The Nakamichi Dragon" and instantly earned myself a geek point from the misses. Alas I have only a mere Aiwa AD-F770, not quite on the same planet as the Dragon but perhaps in the same star system.
@andinbriwel1092
@andinbriwel1092 6 лет назад
TLDR: the machine sucks. Skip to 23:20 for the real show ;)
@JoeJ-8282
@JoeJ-8282 6 лет назад
Yep... Unfortunately, those puppets know more about what Hi-Res means than most consumers do now-a-days, and that's why and how the (especially cheaper, low-end companies, and most stuff made in China) manufacturers get away with charging ever more for much lower quality stuff than back in "the good ol' days" of true audio equipment, like the late 60's, the 70's, 80's, and early 90's... (especially the 70's and 80's!), as that was the era of better quality stuff for sure, especially when it came to electronics!
@jimdayton8837
@jimdayton8837 6 лет назад
That is so true! Everything was built to last in the 70's and 80's!
@jklcvb5894
@jklcvb5894 6 лет назад
It‘s really a shame that toshiba calls it aurex, it has nothing to do with the then nice Hi-Fi equipment
@AVadim
@AVadim 5 лет назад
My Panasonic RX-CT990 is better. :)
@DJErrn
@DJErrn 6 лет назад
‘Do they even make new music? I thought it got replaced by minecraft.’ 😂
@mistermatix8241
@mistermatix8241 6 лет назад
Toshiba used to have excellent quality control, but they went right down. They're generally garbage now. Ashens reviewed a Camelio HD camcorder, and true to form, it was a dreadful device. A shame
@Coffeebeard
@Coffeebeard 6 лет назад
Major Mo Toshiba is now another Sanyo or Magnavox. Its become another brand companies like Funai can hide behind and dupe consumers into buying their stuff.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад
Coffeebeard In the past 4 years Toshiba has lost billions on failed investments in the Nuclear power industry, mostly through buying Westinghouse (The General Electric competitor that promoted AC in the US, hired Tesla away from Edison and almost went bust) and some other big name power industry names. At the end of 2016, Toshiba was on the edge of bankruptcy, but also too big to fail. Whatever now remains is probably still struggling to make any money it can, including selling random crap adorned with nostalgic trademarks. Think of Toshiba as a cross between British Leyland and BP, then think of this thing as a kids toy car with a genuine Morris Motors badge sold exclusively in Britain to nostalgic locals.
@madMARTYNmarsh1981
@madMARTYNmarsh1981 6 лет назад
Major Mo I bought a Camileo 3d video camera and it was genuinely awful, I stick to the camera on my phone for video recording now. I still use my DSLR for taking photos but even the quality of those seems to be dropping now. For £1400 I got a lump of plastic, no metal body etc like they used to be. Shame.
@gerhardprins1412
@gerhardprins1412 6 лет назад
I just found a Sony TC-FX33 in the trash, I’m going to clean it up and see if it works.
@gerhardprins1412
@gerhardprins1412 6 лет назад
Rapisu and Hamutarou it sure is, it cleaned up nicely and it still works fine. It had a couple of problems but those apparently fixed themselves.
@ivansichmann
@ivansichmann 6 лет назад
"Do they even make new music?" "I think it got replaced by Minecraft." *laughing hard intensifies*
@SameriddAndCave
@SameriddAndCave 6 лет назад
To me it sounds like the up conversion is a glorified EQ. Sounds like the mids and the highs are a tiny bit brighter and that's it really.
@ct92404
@ct92404 6 лет назад
Sameridd Yup, that's exactly what I heard too. It really isn't worth it. And this thing isn't really cheap either.
@SameriddAndCave
@SameriddAndCave 6 лет назад
ct92404 I wouldn't pay more than $50 for one of these. Especially since I can go down to a thriftstore and find a big metal sony/Panasonic/etc cassette player for $20 or less.
@zacharywoodman6445
@zacharywoodman6445 6 лет назад
Yeah, I was about to say this. That's what I heard too. Just slightly more volume in the mid and treble
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 6 лет назад
Same thoughts here. I purchased a small Sony Hi-Res Walkman and when I upscaled my CD-quality FLAC recordings, the whole song sank down: low volume, tiny sound, a certain kind of artificial brightness *and* a strange grittiness, too. Didn't like at all. Without that Hi-Res selection, my song collection sounds totally amazing to my ears, well balanced basses, crisp high-end and a smooth like silk feeling. Maybe you can call me a dumbass, but I sorely miss the Megabass option offered on old cassette Walkman.
@THAW12
@THAW12 6 лет назад
Yes. And that's exactly how it should sound. Basically, up conversion is a marketing term for upsampling. As you know, digital audio is sampled at certain hz/second. What this button is doing is upsampling the signal that it's played, introducing some harmonic expansion. The CD standard is 44.1 kHz, when upsampled to 192 kHz, there wouldn't be any *added* spectral quality from the original source (audio), but a bigger spectrum will be perceived. This would be more evident in some mids and especially high frequencies.
@MonoChorMe
@MonoChorMe 5 лет назад
I was expecting you would pull a Photonicinduction move (put a hammer through it)... or an 8-bit Guy move (steamroller it) - since it didn't qualify to standards. hahahah :D
@followthetrawler
@followthetrawler 6 лет назад
Think we've finally found that device that wont be going up in price because you featured it!
@sheendex
@sheendex 6 лет назад
"how many bits is hi-res then?" "oh, all of them"
@CrowAndRedString
@CrowAndRedString 6 лет назад
Yeah 32 bits is alright I guess. 64 bits is the future! Instead of permanent hearing damage in seconds your head explodes like Scanners.
@braelinmichelus
@braelinmichelus 5 лет назад
"Higher things are always best." "Like cholesterol?" Priceless!
@superbird6176
@superbird6176 6 лет назад
Even Toshiba didn't want to put their name on the front of this..
@RBSVader
@RBSVader 6 лет назад
Aurex is Toshiba. But this case it's more like rusty soviet Lada 2101 under Rolls-Royce emblem.
@MrOpenGL
@MrOpenGL 6 лет назад
Alex Schmitt More like Trabant than Lada ;-)
@brentfisher902
@brentfisher902 6 лет назад
All it needs now is Incredi-Pull and blue gasoline.
@ynjlky7121
@ynjlky7121 6 лет назад
Originally AUREX was Toshiba's brand for HiFi audio products from the mid-70's, as well as Panasonic/National/Matsushita's Technics, Mitsubishi's Diatone, Hitachi's Lo-D, Sanyo's Otto and Sharp's Optonica.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 6 лет назад
Just add a cheap quality ceramic cartridge-equipped turntable to the mix and it's pretty much just another retro "does everything but not that well" sound system... :P (Though it is 1-up on my Neostar out in the shed in that this toshiba can record to tape, not that I play them any more!!)
@lShishkaBerryl
@lShishkaBerryl 6 лет назад
twocvbloke It does it all! AM/FM! Cassette! CD! Vinyl! 8 tracks! Phonograph! Laser disc! Beer cooler! George Forman grill!
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 6 лет назад
That's the same image that came to my mind. I remember those enormous and stylish-looking 3-in-1 sold at the very end on the 80's. They looked gorgeous, too many switches, colorful displays and many small lights. You put your beloved cassette on and... OMG, why??? sounds flat, no high ends and no basses at all. Those big speakers didn't rock the house. Just rubbish.
@NOWThatsRichy
@NOWThatsRichy 6 лет назад
Could have added a DAB tuner as well, to make all those low bit rate mono stations sound even worse than normal! 😃
@acertainshape
@acertainshape 6 лет назад
Actually the new TEAC all-in-ones are not bad, though the cassette part is shite: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CQ5ctLvh5To.html
@RBSVader
@RBSVader 6 лет назад
Piezo cartdiges? We called them DEATH TO THE PLATE. Are they even exist in 2018?
@_The_Worst_
@_The_Worst_ 3 года назад
Great review...👍🏼 My conclusion from this review is, Japan can keep it...👌🏼💯✔
@tonyhong20
@tonyhong20 6 лет назад
That nakamichi recorder is so beautiful with its painted brushed aluminum look
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 6 лет назад
Oh my god! Toshiba has gone Crosley???
@thanthanasiszamp4707
@thanthanasiszamp4707 6 лет назад
The Dollar Guy I would buy that machine for a dollar!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 лет назад
It would be embarrassing to even want to _pay_ someone a dollar to take it away. It's not even useful as a doorstop.
@RBSVader
@RBSVader 6 лет назад
I'd pay. I'll use this for remodding to normal audio standards.
@clutchkman
@clutchkman 5 лет назад
Just what a musician wants to hear after you listen to his music: “well, that was underwhelming” lol I know this is not a music review. Your music is very enjoyable Anders Jenson!
@kenhancock8931
@kenhancock8931 6 лет назад
come for the info, STAY FOR THA PUPPETS!!!!! ;-P
@MovingThePicture
@MovingThePicture 6 лет назад
This whole Hi-Res stuff is so stupid.
@CrowAndRedString
@CrowAndRedString 6 лет назад
Heh... sure thing kid... Sounds like you haven't heard a 384khz 32bit Vinyl rip yet. Once you find a good entry level $8000 system, the difference will be night and day!
@MovingThePicture
@MovingThePicture 6 лет назад
Chocomint I know. I am currently waiting for my surgery to get my ears replaced by bat ears. After accommodating my brain to the ears a few month I'll buy all Hi-Res stuff.
@JonnyInfinite
@JonnyInfinite 6 лет назад
Chocomint 384 kHz lol what a dingbat
@funkymonkey1198
@funkymonkey1198 6 лет назад
MovingThePicture not the whole of it but my eyes popped when I saw a pair of high Res headphones. Wtf
@vink6163
@vink6163 6 лет назад
Maybe someone should repurpose old medical ultrasound hardware - forget kHz, those things output audio at many MHz, even bats can't hear that high!
@acedotcom
@acedotcom 3 года назад
So I am watching this on system with decent klipsch speakers and i can hear a difference but it sounds artifical, just like a basic bass and treble boost. Just like really good EQ settings as opposed to a "full range" enhancement like they promise. It's noticeable but why would any one be plugging that into $1000 speakers for a mediocre enhancement
@ThirdSpectrum
@ThirdSpectrum 6 лет назад
A company cashing in on nostalgia to make a quick buck? You don't say?
@fooball4589
@fooball4589 6 лет назад
ThirdSpectrum lol
@paulmaunder3007
@paulmaunder3007 6 лет назад
Interesting video. I've downloaded the two example files 'standard' and 'up convert' and had a look at them in Pro Tools. There is barely any difference at all between the two versions, however the 'up convert' version does have a very slight boost in the higher frequencies. I can only just hear this difference through high quality studio monitors and so the likelihood of hearing it through the built in speakers in the Toshiba unit is zero. Both versions tail off rapidly above about 7Khz though. Not good at all.
@jakobole
@jakobole 2 года назад
Ouch - 7k.....
@F14Defense
@F14Defense 6 лет назад
I was tooo much in love with HiFi equipment, years ago, at my particular level.... but TechMoan is so OUT THERE, INCREDIBLE with all this gear he finds and fixes.... absolutely entertaining and enjoyable. TechMoan has truly inspired me to get my own equipment from decades past fixed and operational again. Will be very, very expensive in time and/or money to have done, though. Thanks so very much TechMoan. Inspirational.
@gregdaweson4657
@gregdaweson4657 2 года назад
If you spent the amount of time and money he has on this hobby, you would have the same collection.
@AlbySpace
@AlbySpace 6 лет назад
The puppet bit is priceless.
@k001daddy
@k001daddy 6 лет назад
Love the puppets. Always makes me laugh. I wish all your videos had them, or maybe they could have their own channel. BTW, what are their names?
@PassiveDestroyer
@PassiveDestroyer 6 лет назад
They are known as 'The Moans'. Thankfully, they have their own playlist here: ru-vid.com/group/PLN2yCnHTG_6rlyYFpwUX2u0m_HVHpHO0F
@folk.
@folk. 5 лет назад
Aaah they looked on their inventory from the 90's and decided to use it rather than throw it away. It's all in the name of the environment
@GerardvanSchip
@GerardvanSchip 6 лет назад
I live in Japan. This machine is for old folks. Anyone who knows their audio will go to one of the many many many shops that sell vintage stuff, often looking like new with prices to match. Btw, still enjoy this video but then again I'm a huge teachmoan fan.
@error52
@error52 6 лет назад
They should have tried with something like the old "Stereo Wide'' function some boomboxes had. It's a quite simple and effective electronic function that adds a bit of artificial stereo separation mixed with some EQ-mojo to make it a bit brighter as well. No pretense of "high resolution" or even "hi-fi". One example in particular comes to my mind: I have an East German RFT model SKR-601 radio cassette with that feature. On normal stereo it sounds decent, but when you switch it to "Wide"...holly hell does it sing. For an 80s plastic boombox it actually makes it sound like a bigger stereo system and it's clear as a bell too.
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 5 лет назад
Same here. My parents bought a small boombox (a mid-price Chilean IRT double cassette / radio). Stereo... mmm, not bad. Wide... wow! I remember I wore a pair of headphones and put on a loved cassette tape on it. I was overjoyed.
@unknownwake
@unknownwake 3 года назад
OOF that puppet sketch in the context of spotify finally announcing hi res streaming officially for the first time today in 2021...
@idimidodjimi6760
@idimidodjimi6760 6 лет назад
Marvelous ending with puppets , they know it best and they are absolutely right Kissed by the Pope .....
@moottori_paa
@moottori_paa 6 лет назад
That was very good puppets ending :D
@ModernClassic
@ModernClassic 6 лет назад
Great video as always. Definitely could hear the difference between the Nak and this thing, even on RU-vid through crappy laptop speakers. As for what that "upconvert" button actually does, my guess is that it's trying to stretch the high frequencies of either compressed digital or "low res" analog tapes back up to or even above 20khz, which the standard amplitude waveform on Audacity wouldn't show. (The spectrogram view would.) But it's still trying to get blood from a stone. I would doubt it would sound any better to anyone, although these days with algorithm-based processing (if this deck is doing that), who knows. As your puppets point out, though, people our age probably wouldn't be able to hear the difference even if one exists. I know I can't hear anything over 16khz these days. One thing I can be somewhat understanding of on this deck is the fact that it can only record on Type I tapes; as far as I know that's all that's made any more. Type I blanks are still pretty common in Japan; you can even find them in the 100 yen stores. Type II and IV tapes are unicorns, though.
@moeta486
@moeta486 3 года назад
>hi-res deck >records to 192kbps mp3 instead of flac
@MarshalArnold
@MarshalArnold 6 лет назад
Lol can't say I'm suprised. Wish one of the manufacturers would release a good high-end cassette player, but that's a bit of a pipe dream.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 6 лет назад
What for? There are more decent used cassette devices than the world needs really. Having one restored by a professional repairman is still cheaper than anything new would have to cost, considering engineering and production setup.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 6 лет назад
Lassi Kinnunen $400 would be a serious lowball figure. Major HiFi companies keep a margin of about 5 to maintain profitability, so essentially for $400 you have at most $50 worth of components and workmanship to work with, and even Shenzhen assembly line girls need to be paid $5/hr... I think if somebody wanted to release a deck today comparable to the good ones of the 80ies, it would need to retail for at least a grand. There would be no buyer to sell those to.
@MarshalArnold
@MarshalArnold 6 лет назад
Yup, you all are correct. I must be insane to want and decent new machine. See with a new one then I don't have to spend all that time to get either restored or repaired lol. Just buy an old one lol man, I want a NEW one that isn't crap.. like I said ha!
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 лет назад
mipmipmipmipmip The Dolby B and C patents expired a long time ago, but you still have to pay to use the name and logo, as they are still in the audio quality business.
@tubical71
@tubical71 6 лет назад
i paid a grand in a store back in the 80s for my akai GX-75 when it was new and when it came to the need of a new belt set, i got in there and it looked like ok-ish regarding it being made in the 80s. When i bought the akai GX-R88 from ebay for half a grand nonworking, the tape mechanics are great (die-cast iron everywhere) while everything else (electronics and used components) is just under ok-ish with respect to its original price-tag.... If you want to buy an all new cassettedeck nowadays...you´re about to pay at least two grand....as there´s no more mid/hi-range stuff, no motors, no mechanics and no more machines to produce them....
@GareWorks
@GareWorks 6 лет назад
What an unfortunate machine. I believe I could hear a difference, but the difference was so negligible that it's more of a nitpick about the tiniest, most minuscule differences you'll ever hear. Such a shame that it wasn't better. It'd have been awesome to see a modern tape deck that improved on the old technology instead of just making it look worse.
@markm0000
@markm0000 6 лет назад
It's been compressed so far there's no way you are hearing any difference. It's pure placebo. The button does nothing.
@enzoperruccio
@enzoperruccio 4 года назад
Well, it's all down to what the average consumer wants, and for a dead format that's been revived with left over parts I'd say this thing is nice. It beats dealing with an old/used machine that's got a million or so issues. And like it or not these machines are the future for compact casette, because in the end, that's what the majority of people remember about the format; cheap machines which weren't really that good but did their job.
@DavidLeeKersey
@DavidLeeKersey 6 лет назад
Flipping Heck.
@dwindeyer
@dwindeyer 6 лет назад
It probably just runs the tape through a 96/24 or 192/24 AD-DA loop, which achieves nothing. I'm surprised they didn't put in a bit of treble EQ boost just to make it seem like it does something, that's what most companies do.
@simonrichard9873
@simonrichard9873 5 лет назад
What's the name of the song at 12:21? Edit: Found it. Candy Apple Blue - Mad About You (Juno Dreams remix)
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 6 лет назад
Have you ever heard of the phrase: "No highs, no lows, must be Bose"? That Toshiba Aurex's "frequency response" looks like it would be a perfect match for Bose speakers.;)
@BoopBobBeep
@BoopBobBeep 6 лет назад
The product feel like cashing on nostalgic with cheap built quality.
@FutureReverberations
@FutureReverberations 6 лет назад
So to sum up: Its pants. :P *EDIT - Keep on moaning... I really love the humor you throw in. :)
@Tomsonic41
@Tomsonic41 6 лет назад
All the 'vocal down' button does is invert one of the tracks and mix the two together into a mono signal. This causes destructive interference and whatever is the same on both tracks (usually the vocal, dead centre) is cancelled out. Of course this doesn't work on all material, particularly if there are echoes and pans on the vocals!
@jcamp3606
@jcamp3606 6 лет назад
Take it apart. Teardown teardown teardown!
@markm0000
@markm0000 6 лет назад
It's basically a power supply and a small blob on a green mainboard behind the LCD. Nothing to look at .
@keithbrown7685
@keithbrown7685 6 лет назад
Yeah... but..... but..... th..... that's no reason not to take it apart!!! :-)
@FSM_Reviews
@FSM_Reviews 4 года назад
I have to admit - the Sony CFD-S70, a machine that's about 1/3 of the price of the Toshiba, sounds about 10 times better when playing cassettes.
@Narayan_1996
@Narayan_1996 6 лет назад
your video was wonderful, the machine that is awful, was not meant to give good analog sound quality, and even on digital it fails miserably. I can even compare it to that wagon-shaped vinyl record player in terms of sound quality and manufacturing. "It's an abomination" hahahaha
@RBSVader
@RBSVader 6 лет назад
I'm already thinking to get a case from this and modify it with normal mechanics, from Yamaha KX-530 or even 800/1200. Case is nice, speakers aren't bad...nice LED VU-meter.
@Narayan_1996
@Narayan_1996 6 лет назад
It would be very useful to do this, since the technology that comes with it is useless. Replacing the internal parts with new ones of good quality would give a new and better function to a device like this. The LED VU-meter is pretty cool, but in the case of the speakers I did not get a very good impression, since RU-vid does not give you a good quality audio test, and all the audio coming from the device was picked up by the camera
@MrOpenGL
@MrOpenGL 6 лет назад
Alex Schmitt Mat said the case rattled a lot when the bass got louder. He also said that's probably why Toshiba limited the volume very low. Finally he said it was made of cheap plastic... I'm not sure it would be worth upgrading it. You can get much better Aiwa/Sharp etc boomboxes from the 80s on eBay for less money and better quality. Then you could add an AUX jack or Bluetooth module as the Post Apocalyptic Inventor has shown many times on his channel ;-)
@RBSVader
@RBSVader 6 лет назад
Maybe you right, after all. Or i can build boombox from scratch...
@andrewganley9016
@andrewganley9016 6 лет назад
So wont be selling my Nakamichi Dragon soon!
@geetarbube
@geetarbube 6 лет назад
andrew ganley Certainly hope your decision didn't hinge on a RU-vid video. Oh, wait, you just wanted us to know that you have a Dragon.
@andrewganley9016
@andrewganley9016 6 лет назад
No i was being ironical! had these in the 70s called them 'cassceviers'? rubbish then
@mrb2917
@mrb2917 6 лет назад
Hey everyone, this guy's got a Dragon!
@tubical71
@tubical71 6 лет назад
and guess what, i had one and....also i sold it....i bought a used GX-R88...that "...auto azimuth..." it´s not so auto as it should be and also, it needs care and maintenance...any tascam 234 (modified to run at 1 7/8 IPS)and 322 is better for weekend use and they don´t need the amount of technical attention once they´re restored.
@JoeJ-8282
@JoeJ-8282 3 года назад
This type of super cheap quality P.O.S. machines are making a total JOKE out of the "High-Res" audio thing, that's for sure, which is a very unfortunate waste of the potential in that!!... Very weak!!
@ukkev7056
@ukkev7056 6 лет назад
I was considering importing one of these as I thought it would be a high spec getto blaster due to the price and brand. What a disappointment.
@brentfisher902
@brentfisher902 6 лет назад
In the Bible it says that it is the man's job to make coffee...
@q8386
@q8386 6 лет назад
I watched the first 5 mins or so then skipped to the credits and the puppets. Seems like this piece of tech to avoid. Clearly the makers are using up their stock of old, cheap parts to get cash from those who would know no better.
@bruhtv7215
@bruhtv7215 6 лет назад
The reason the "Vocal Down" button didn't function correctly is because most features like that are center cancelling, removing sound from the center of the stereo image where the vocals are usually placed. You'll notice the voice seems echoey in the video once the vocal down button is pressed, this is because that particular song had a stereo reverb on the vocals, so when you cancel the sound in the center of the stereo image all you have left is the sound of the echo.
@verdatum
@verdatum 6 лет назад
Great review, and I love vids that include puppetry skits. Very cool of you to run proper tests. Those graphs tell much more than YT compressed audio ever would. This product though...wow. It can't play Type II or metal tapes, no Dolby, It's genuinely ugly, interface on the top instead of the front, wussy speakers...Jeez. This is one sad product. I don't understand why this product exists. I don't see the market for it. Maybe this started as a good idea that went too far in the design process to pull the plug on when it became clear that it wasn't feasible to make an affordable high quality tape deck in the current state of the industry... The mid 90s JVC decks are still extremely affordable, and the high-end ones are still fantastic. In my early teens, I used to record church services as a service for shut-ins members with one, and it was a treat to use. We'd record the master on chrome with Dolby-C, and copies done on Type 1 /w Dolby-B. The copies sounded so good that only audiophiles would be able to tell it wasn't uncompressed digital. The church's sound-system probably created more hiss than the tape recording/playback added. If those mid-90s decks ever start getting scarce and expensive, only then should anyone try to make a new decent tape deck system. And it's gotta come from a company that is large enough to eat some initial investment costs to start making proper components; that or wander across a warehouse full of new-old-stock. I find this to be pretty unlikely though. Cassette just doesn't have the same love as vinyl, and I don't think it ever will.
@zooblestyx
@zooblestyx 6 лет назад
Came for the retro tech, stayed for the puppets.
@TorontoJon
@TorontoJon 5 лет назад
16:35 Unleash the Dragon (the Nakamichi Dragon, that is)! :)
@boijorzee
@boijorzee 6 лет назад
The up convert button directs the sound trough a vial of snake oil.
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