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In this episode we take a look at the new SBL Study Bible from HarperCollins.
This Bible is available at: www.christianbook.com/the-sbl-study-bible-ebook/9780062970138/pd/124990EB
The articles and topics in the SBL Study Bible can also be found at Bible Odyssey - BibleOdyssey.org
Other DiscipleDojo videos mentioned:
SBL 2023 Recap - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q4Ydd6-YtHc.html
HarperCollins Study Bible Review - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tFyzsKrp4p0.html
Bible Backgrounds playlist - ru-vid.com/group/PL4bbdsVUgfc5TnFfdyxI0ZELx0JVjLgbA
Pharaohs’ hard heart - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHQ9RDWQbwU.html
Dragons in the Bible? - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n7HGaoXHLSs.html
144,000 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-54wXa5Bgpd0.html
Aquaman on Biblical Sea Monsters - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DLuljp4QuYY.html
Ben Grimm on Pharaoh’s Heart - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YK-5B2Nwtnc.html
Lion-O and the Lion of Judah - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EDDixHU--_c.html
David DeSilva on the Apocrypha - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xh5n5okLaAI.html
Nijay Gupta discussing Women in the Bible - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l1hFuM2MWAI.html
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@kutasenat
@kutasenat 9 месяцев назад
I'd like to say Thank You. I'm not very religious and to be honest never was. But Bible was in my circle of interest because my education as a librarian. For me Bible was a book about history etc rather than some guide in my life. But your videos made that I bought Study Bible and it was the best idea I have ever had since very long time :):) Reading this, with all those notes and additional info was really eyes opening :) The way you are talking about those Bibles is fantastic :) Thanks, Happy New Year and best wishes for 2024, greetings from Poland :)
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 9 месяцев назад
Let me preface this by reiterating that my favorite study Bible is the New Oxford Annotated Bible. My inclination is to prefer study Bibles that are very open to academic perspectives rather than simply forwarding apologetic perspectives. That being said, I find myself taking issue with the SBL Study Bible in the same way that I did with the HC Study Bible: there's a huge difference between being willing to think outside of evangelical Chicago Statement inerrantist presuppositions and being unwilling to affirm anything other than the most skeptical reading possible. I can only take so much talk like "Matthew's Gospel is fiction" in my study Bible notes before I have to throw up my hands.
@_quiara_
@_quiara_ 9 месяцев назад
Another NOAB fan! 🖐️
@anthonyperrone7958
@anthonyperrone7958 8 месяцев назад
I found many notes that defied logic. Modernists are just being lazy. The notes on Exodus were fanciful. Promptly returned.
@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181
@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181 6 месяцев назад
Well, as he explains at the beginning . . . not a Christian use Bible . . . I tend to take that to mean . . . for other religions &/or atheists to be able to read to gain ammunition for loading their weapons against apologetics for Christianity . . . so if you want to know what the Bible says, where they got their facts, how to debate these sources, etc. ties in nicely with archeological digs to prove validity of existence of people & places.
@clouds-rb9xt
@clouds-rb9xt 12 дней назад
Does it claim that?
@reneallen9556
@reneallen9556 2 дня назад
Thank you for this honest Review of the SBL Study Bible. I picked this one up, skimmed through it, and put it right back down. This one did not capture my attention. Have a blessed weekend. 🙋🏽‍♀️
@ArleneAdkinsZell
@ArleneAdkinsZell 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the great review and explanation. I have a 'tissue paper' Bible, even colored pencil showed through, I write my notes on scraps of paper and tape them in tip in style.
@katielouise3924
@katielouise3924 9 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the in depth review of the SBL SB. I might get it on my Kindle just to have the apocryphal books. Nice to know about the bible odyssey website.
@AncientNovelist
@AncientNovelist 5 месяцев назад
WOW! What a terrific, honest, in-depth analysis and review of the SBL Study Bible. You just earned another subscriber, and I'm very picky about subscribing. The SBL doesn't sound like it's for me as a Christian, but since I am writing a commentary on Genesis that will ruffle feathers at every point along the criticism-confession continuum, I probably need to at least read what the non-believers are saying about critical verses, especially in the Pentateuch and the greater Hebrew Bible. I purchased a French copy of the Archaeological Study Bible (Bible Segond 21 Archéologique) on your recommendation a few weeks ago, and I have already found the volume quite helpful, not only in deepening my understanding of passages but also in locating primary journal articles on topics in Genesis and some of the prophets. An ecumenical Bible I really enjoy that doesn't throw out the baby with the bath water (that is, maintains a respectful and confessional perspective) is La Bible Traduction Oecuménique (TOB). I've come to prefer it over both the NRSV and the NABRE. Another good translation with useful notes is La Biblia Latinoamerica, Edicion Formadores (2005 revision). Thanks again for a great review!
@betoinbeta
@betoinbeta 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review, can’t wait to pick up my own copy!
@_quiara_
@_quiara_ 9 месяцев назад
This is a really great review. My masters is in Hebrew Bible and I’m super interested to see how they handle my special interests. I, personally, really love the NRSVue. I actually got my first “premium” Bible in the NRSVue with apocrypha bc it’s the translation I like to use for my studies. Thanks for such a thorough and balanced review.
@williamstein5125
@williamstein5125 9 месяцев назад
What’s your opinion on the differences between the NRSVue and the NRSV? Also, do you think the bent it has to liberal interpretations at all effect traditional theology?
@jamesbarksdale978
@jamesbarksdale978 9 месяцев назад
I also like the NRSVue. I didn't think I would, but found it surprisingly enjoyable to read. There are some quirks and oddities, and the not-so-subtle effort to mitigate the teaching of Scripture on homosexual behavior - especially in 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10. Inexcusable and disingenuous, to my thinking. There may be some question about how to best render malakoi in English, but not arsenokoitai. To include a textual footnote saying the Greek is unclear is a flat out lie. I don't know any other way to say it. I hope they have enough integrity to correct this in their next print run.
@_quiara_
@_quiara_ 9 месяцев назад
@@jamesbarksdale978 I think there’s room for debate here. I’m an historical critical theologian, though, so my approach is different.
@jamesbarksdale978
@jamesbarksdale978 9 месяцев назад
​@@_quiara_ I agree. We can debate all we want, just be faithful in biblical translation. I don't believe they were in these passages, as well as one in Deut and three in 1&2 Kings related to male temple prostitution. In my mind the translation committee has sacrificed translation integrity for their agenda. In doing so they are setting a dangerous precedent.
@farlado5459
@farlado5459 9 месяцев назад
All in all, basically the biggest changes to the NRSVue were the ones which people already got up in arms over when the translation hit the news. Otherwise, the changes are subtle (lots of punctuation shifting, small rewordings) for the sake of making a translation which flows better and (mostly) tones down the goofy tone so much Christian writing had in the 1970s and early 80s. It's a fine translation and I disagree with it marginally less than I did with the NRSV. Even as someone who is in favor of same-sex marriage, I do find it weird that in Romans 1 the notes didn't include the possibility that Paul was describing all homoeroticism, agnostic of content or motivation. It is more than possible, even if I personally find it as unlikely as the possibility that pederasty would be the clear implication for first-century readers. I get the desire to err towards inclusion; that shouldn't cause the notes to shy away from giving mention to a reading as plausible as the ones already given in the notes.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
From what I've seen from it so far, I agree with your assessment. And I appreciate your honest response on the Romans 1 issue. I think the pedarasty argument would be stronger for the 1Corinthians passage (though I think it ultimately doesn't work there either), due to Romans 1 mentioning female same-sex relationships first. That, to me, makes it hard to accept that Paul only has pederasty in mind in Rom 1. Regardless, thanks for watching and thoughtfully commenting.
@sadusattack2628
@sadusattack2628 9 месяцев назад
Great review! I was on the fence as to whether to buy this or not. You just saved me $40. I would like to see a review of the Legacy Standard Bible.
@ChristcentredNaturalgee
@ChristcentredNaturalgee 9 месяцев назад
Same
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
That's just a translation though, rather than an actual study Bible, is it not?
@sadusattack2628
@sadusattack2628 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo Yes, just a standard Bible. I didn't know if you reviewed translation's as well.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
@@sadusattack2628 I typically only give thoughts on particular translations when reviewing their study Bible content.
@WatchtowerHunter
@WatchtowerHunter Месяц назад
JM, thank our for another great review. Very helpful. I may have missed this, but have you ever reviewed the Berean Study Bible? I would be very interested on your take.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
@@WatchtowerHunter no, I'm not familiar with it.
@hbells3404
@hbells3404 5 месяцев назад
Thank you and I totally agree with your recommendation purposes 😊
@ThriftStoreBibles
@ThriftStoreBibles 9 месяцев назад
Thanks as always for your thorough reviews. I've been waiting for an NRSVue SB, but I'm not compelled to buy this one. I don't mind academic study Bibles, but the notes in this seem very odd. And the ghosting... it must be bad if J.M. comments on it! It really surprises me as it seems their biggest competition is the NOAB which is really well laid out and printed. I think I'll just wait for it to get an update.
@chrisazure1624
@chrisazure1624 9 месяцев назад
My issue with many study bibles is that the speculations and assumptions created by the Documentary hypothesis are not clearly stated.
@MO-bo2du
@MO-bo2du 9 месяцев назад
When I first started "studying" the Bible I was VERY susceptible to text criticism and skeptical theories of dating, authorship, stuff like that. They seemed so logical and I just naturally trusted the academics. They obviously know what they're talking about, right??? Thank God, the more I learned I realized that their theories are typically based on tenuous assumptions, discount reasonable alternate possibilities, and are lacking in provable facts. It really shocked me, but ultimately strengthened my belief in the Bible's inspiration and inerrancy (with caveats... not literalism!). So for these reasons I don't just disagree with "scholarly" Study Bibles like this, but I actually think they are intentionally pernicious and dangerous. Tackling the Bible is ALWAYS the first step to attacking traditional beliefs. If you are going to read something like this as a Christian you need to be mature enough in your faith first to handle it. Just my opinion fwiw
@cashman5355
@cashman5355 9 месяцев назад
Just saw this pop up last week... been waiting for this review!
@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 9 месяцев назад
13,000 Subbies!!! Wowser. Good on ya,JM.⭐🌹⭐
@SibleySteve
@SibleySteve 9 месяцев назад
As a professional printer, when you say "bad quality printing" I wince, because I hope you meant to say "cheap paper is too thin." All the printing craftsmen/people/hobbits who laid this out and printed it probably did their best and made a nice looking layout, and the business people who opted for thin paper (cheap) ruined their effort, because the actual fonts and printing are fine, it's the material/media that is cheap and subvert the nice duotone blue layout. I have this new Bible as a paperback, I know how to use it to mitigate the ghosting (slip sheet behind the page you're reading); and I really miss the old Harper Collins chapter in the back "O.T. texts quoted in the NT." To me, that is a very important chapter that is just assumed to be common knowledge nowadays, or hiding in your old Bible, so I can see another business decision to omit it. There are a lot of business decisions about the printing of this Bible. I am THRILLED to see Theresa Morgan's essay on "faithfulness" / pistis in this Bible. There are things about this Bible to like. But can I ask a stupid question because I am not a professional Bible dude? I have learned as a former KJV only fundamentalist-turned Episcopalian to LOVE background studies, Koine, the LXX, the deutero's, etc. I have begun to collect everything related to the second temple period, anything written by D. deSilva, Craig Keener, John Walton and Tom Wright, etc. I have just been reminded that Codices Sinaiticus and Vaticainus contain the Shepherd of Hermas (I know it's weird, we had to read it in Greek class in 1988), as well as the Odes and Barnabas. Could I ask you to use your awesome influence to get someone, anyone to publish a book similar to the thing that Lexham put out, the codex uncial based LXX complete with 1 Enoch, but this time, include the NT, the Shepherd, Barnabas, and maybe even Clement and the Didache? Because it seems like if the 3rd century monks could make a codex to accommodate all this material, why can't we? I know the Southern Baptists put out an Ancient Heritage Bible with quotations by the apostolic fathers, but they omitted the good stuff I just mentioned. I also see everyone chasing after the gnostics from Nag Hammadi, but why in the world are people not demanding to see the codex "extras" like Shepherd and Barnabas and the Odes, Clement, Didache, etc? I would recommend Lexham do another LXX but instead of tacking on just 1 Enoch and the Odes, they include all of the NT extra material that is found in A, B, and C. To me, the orthodox NT deuterocanonical is getting left behind the NT gnostic publishing. It's actually hard for me to find NT orthodox deuterocanonical because the market is flooded by Gospel of Thomas et al.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Yes, I almost mentioned the OT passages in the NT feature that was removed, but the review was so long already and I had to cut a number of points to keep it just over a half-hour. I agree there are definitely good articles sprinkled throughout and many I didn't mention in the video due to time constraints. As for the printing, yes, I am referring to paper choice. The actual printing is as good as one could expect on such crappy paper. :-)
@amyk6403
@amyk6403 9 месяцев назад
As a graphic artist who has worked for printing companies of various sizes, I had the same thought and I concur.
@anthonyperrone7958
@anthonyperrone7958 8 месяцев назад
Poor glue, poor binding and the paper is transparent.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 7 месяцев назад
The thin paper isn't just to save money. It's a 2200 page book. With thicker paper, it would be impractically thick and would weigh a ton. The book needs to be usable. They would have had to split it into two volumes if they used regular paper.
@deanalley_thebaptist878
@deanalley_thebaptist878 9 месяцев назад
I bought it thanks.
@youngrevival9715
@youngrevival9715 9 месяцев назад
Great review.
@gezaszemok7942
@gezaszemok7942 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for saving me some money!
@flowerlass
@flowerlass 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the review. The tissue paper pages would annoy me, so I will pass on this one. I will look up Bible Odyssey. After watching your channel for the past two months, I wish I had gone to seminary.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 3 месяца назад
It's never too late. :-)
@hassanmirza2392
@hassanmirza2392 8 месяцев назад
Very good review. I think Oxford Study Bibles are better than HarperCollins Study Bibles for historic-critic method based Bibles.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 8 месяцев назад
I agree.
@Foffs_Musings
@Foffs_Musings 9 месяцев назад
What is it about the NRSV that makes it more geared for "Academic use" as opposed to say the NASB, NIV, CSB or ESV? is it considered less biased in someway, or was it just created for that purpose?
@aperson4057
@aperson4057 9 месяцев назад
Its translation background. For one, it is the most used translation in academia. Its background is also ecumenical from the National Council of Churches which includes Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox groups. The update was done by the Society of Biblical Literature, the largest biblical scholarship group in the world. The translators behind were also ecumenical from Jewish, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestants. One big thing about modern translations is they come from single groups, NIV (largely evangelical) ESV (Reformed evangelical) CSB (Southern Baptist), etc. The NRSV also pays attention to critical scholarship and as a result, will attempt to give you those readings. Ex. “When God began to create” in NRSVue vs “In the beginning” in most other Christian translations.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Yes, see aperson4057's comment below.
@EnormouslySmall
@EnormouslySmall 5 месяцев назад
I understand the Westminster Study Bible, to be published in Oct, 2024, will also use the NRSVue. Do you think it will be better than the SBL SB in terms of its scholarship?
@nendwr
@nendwr 7 месяцев назад
That note on the Synoptic Problem, presenting the Q and Augustinian theories is atrocious. The main challenger to Q in the academic world for decades has been the Farrer theory. There was even a phase in the late 20th century when the Griesbach theory had a wave of popularity. That note looks like it hasn't been updated since about 1950.
@friklik25
@friklik25 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for grat content. I really enjoy it. Little suggestion: I think that your reviews of study Bibles are really good. They have kind of established pattern. You allways go to the same texts and look at how particular Bible aproach them. And this is very very good. Because audience always know what to expect, and this kind of stucks to you. And this is very good strategy. Nevertheless, it also has downside: after awhile this approach becomes somewhat stale. I would suggest that you introduce, add new section in this kind of video reviews which would assess general helpfulness of Bible notes: are they crisp, clear, insightfull, concise or vice versa.... In this section of review it would be possible to go to some better known Bible texts (not allways the same texts) (for example Isa 53) and see how notes of this particular Bible are helpfull or not in conveying, explaining meaning of the text to the reader.... Maybe to give good, great and not so great examples. This would introduce variety in already great template of the your videos. And would also give new dimension of understanding what is particular study Bible all about. For example I whatched your video on one of the Bibles. This Bible (think it was Baker Illustrated study Bible) checked all marks - which would make it great study Bible. Nevertheless I looked at reviews on Amazon and lots of reviewers remarked that notes were pretty lame! I know that this is pretty subjective - what speaks to one, may not to other... but nevertheless. This new section would help. (Maybe even introduce what reviewers on Amazon are saying about Bible, and compare it with your own assesment) This is just an idea! Sorry for sloppy english, I'm from Croatia!
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the suggestion. The reason I look at Gen, Exod, Rom, and Rev (and sometimes the Complementarian/Egalitarian passages) in each review is because those are the places where you get the clearest idea of the theological content of a particular study Bible and where they often differ the most.
@MM-jf1me
@MM-jf1me 9 месяцев назад
Your English is great! I liked your comment because you are very specific in your suggestions and you're speaking out to be helpful and not to tear a creator down. I think JM does a great job showing specific examples of notes in the study Bibles he reviews. He usually (always?) includes closeups so that viewers may pause the video and look over the notes for themselves to determine if they look helpful for their own study. As he is showing examples, he is usually giving an opinion on the notes in question. In particular, I think the notes a study Bible has about the water of Laodicea gives a good idea of how helpful the notes within a particular Bible may be to aid readers' understanding. It would be great if all reviewers considered and responded to common criticisms of whatever they're reviewing, but looking over Amazon reviews etc sounds like a potentially huge investment in time for a questionable payoff. Just my 2¢.
@MovieMonster9
@MovieMonster9 9 месяцев назад
Are you still reviewing Bible apps? Because I’m interested in you reviewing Tecarta Bible. I have an outdated iPad and I’m hoping to get an update someday and mine has the old version and I know they released a new version so I’m curious about it. Offline translations and study notes are not free but intended to be affordable.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
I'm not familiar with it, unfortunately.
@heavenbound7-7-7-7
@heavenbound7-7-7-7 9 месяцев назад
Lutheran Study Bible won the poll, you didn't have it available?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
It's coming, but this one had more interest on social media in general and is newer, so it needed to be done first. Lutheran Study Bible and Lutheran Apochrypha are coming after the holidays sometime.
@Agben35
@Agben35 9 месяцев назад
interesting. I think I might have tried it, but good review, I don’t think this is for me.
@timwilkins2008
@timwilkins2008 4 месяца назад
I use the NOAB Thrid Edition, Harper Collins and now the SBL Study Bible. I have used the NRSV since it came out in 1989 (my first year in seminary) and now I am happily breaking in a text NRSVue in goatskin. The study notes from the other three serve to inform my reading, teaching and preaching.
@iprimap
@iprimap 9 месяцев назад
Good review. Continued disappointment with liberal "scholarship." But I knew what I was getting when I bought the SBL Study Bible. Your review has confirmed everything I have found so far. However, there is some useful information; but it is necessary to weed out the wheat from the chaff.
@OneStepToday
@OneStepToday 8 месяцев назад
Great and very helpful video. You miss some mistakes. The text of NRSV and footnote ESV and some other versions do say in Gen 9:20 "Noah, a man of the soil, was the first to plant a vineyard." The whole book basically portrays Genesis of everything which includes the surrounding wicked and jealous nations. You can't take the book as a history by confusing the midrashic mythological genre of its literature.
@jamesbarksdale978
@jamesbarksdale978 9 месяцев назад
Not to discount the positives in the notes, the poor quality paper alone is enough to convince me not to buy the Bible. In addition, I don't need a study Bible that approaches the text with a hermeneutic of unbelief and suspicion. Thanks for addressing the commentary on 1 Cor 6:9.
@brianbrownell689
@brianbrownell689 8 месяцев назад
I don't know about this one. I think I like that it exists, but maybe I don't want the non-religious academic notes on the Bible. Thanks for the review.
@gmac6503
@gmac6503 9 месяцев назад
In another words, It is NOT a christian 'APOLOGETIC' bible. Good. That's why it is excellent! Scholars are featured.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
No, not in other words. I think I was fairly clear.
@gmac6503
@gmac6503 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo I summed up your review in 7 words being 'very' clear.
@israelrivera3009
@israelrivera3009 9 месяцев назад
@@gmac6503 Wow! , youre so Smart !.....just repeating what the video explained super very clearly
@gmac6503
@gmac6503 9 месяцев назад
@@israelrivera3009 maybe one day you'll get what I'm saying. Apologists... never mind. I endorse this study Bible highly. If one wants to read the scholars' notes like Fredriksen alone -- it is worth the price of it.
@gmac6503
@gmac6503 9 месяцев назад
@@israelrivera3009 I respect this guys RU-vid channel. I also agree with a commentator that the New Oxford Annotated Bible is excellent and also my favorite but the new SBL and HarperCollins second edition are my second go to as there are changes in the new SBL edition.
@nestorcaceres8928
@nestorcaceres8928 8 месяцев назад
Would you recommend the kindle edition or the paperback?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 8 месяцев назад
if you are determined to get a copy, definitely Kindle. This paperback is very poor quality.
@sluggo562
@sluggo562 4 месяца назад
Why only the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Apocryphal texts? Why not the Ethiopic or Gnostic?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 4 месяца назад
Not sure why not the Ethiopic, but gnostics were deemed heretical and not recognized by any branch of Christendom.
@sluggo562
@sluggo562 4 месяца назад
@@DiscipleDojo They were deemed heretical, yes, and recognized extensively by heretical branches of Christendom, particularly in the early church. The community of Gnostics today is huge. The editors of the SBL are clearly trying to be as inclusive and edgy as possible so why do they continue to exclude the non canonical apocrypha of this sizeable group?
@PreacherJimC
@PreacherJimC 9 месяцев назад
My first impression is that it denies the inerrancy of the Bible. From your description, it seems to be a very liberal theological work and something to stay clear of. My concern is that someone who is not biblically trained in topics such as church history, hermeneutics, systematic theology, or decerning will fall into heresy by reading it. I'm an academic as well as a church pastor so having this in mind I would have trouble reading some of these Scholars that outright deny the inerrancy of the Bible from the outset. We run the risk when we approach the Bible from purely a secular view of eisegeting the Scripture and hence fall into heresy.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 7 месяцев назад
The clue is in the name. It is written by the Society of Biblical Literature. They approach the Bible as a literary text, not a sacred one. It contains literary analysis, not theological analysis. The doctrine of Biblical inerrancy is a theological concept, not a literary one. It says in the second paragraph of the "Guide to the SBL Study Bible" that "It asks readers to set aside what they think they know and look closely at the Biblical texts." Since the doctrine of any given religious institution is not going to be based on simply looking closely at the texts, it is natural that looking closely at the texts will bring you to different conclusions than those taught in any given doctrine (or will cause you to fall into heresy, as you put it). They are very clear about what the purpose of this study Bible is. It is an academic work for those interested in studying the Bible as a work of literature. It is not designed for use in preaching or worship and will not be effective for that purpose.
@PastorKThroop
@PastorKThroop 2 месяца назад
Thanks for this helpful review. Now I know I won't be buying this particular study Bible.
@brianbrownell689
@brianbrownell689 8 месяцев назад
When you say all the apocryphal books, do you mean even those that the Ethiopian church maintain? I don't know what they all are but I know they have several other books that no one else has.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 8 месяцев назад
No, just Easter Orthodox, Slavonic, and Catholic apocrypha, I believe.
@brianbrownell689
@brianbrownell689 8 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo thank you
@rosbyduhart5884
@rosbyduhart5884 9 месяцев назад
Is there an online version...or does Logos carry it?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
I'm not sure, but imagine they or Accordance will at some point if they don't already.
@lanbaode
@lanbaode 6 месяцев назад
NRSV-UE is pronounced like "nurse view"!
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 6 месяцев назад
Not be me it's not.
@lanbaode
@lanbaode 6 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo With Bible translations getting new updates and longer acronyms, just came across in the internet these usage of helpful words or phrases sounding close to the acronym. A similar one is the official Catholic Bible in the U.S. (used in Masses), the NABRE (New American Bible-Revised Edition) pronounced like “neighbor.”
@joestfrancois
@joestfrancois 9 месяцев назад
I began to doubt almost 50 years ago now, when a preacher from the pulpit, said of a passage from Ecclesiastes, "Even though it seems to say this, that is not what is meant." I went to the trouble of reading it in the entirety of the book itself and concluded he was wrong. I also recall him talking of "vanity" in that same sermon, as if "vanity" was what the text was talking about, and not lack of meaning. He believed what he wanted to, and even the Bible would not change his mind. JM, when you started this vid you said this was not a "Christian" study bible. I think the actual meaning of what was written in the book that was supposed to explain what I believed would be more important than what I, or anyone else wanted it to believe. I think that an objective look at the texts would be more fruitful than a biased one. Yeah, an atheist would not go out of the way to find evidence for supernatural events, but wanting there to be supernatural events should not reject good scholarship. Christians often have already decided what they want to believe, as do most non-scholar atheists. The Christian Bible is what it is. Start there. I don't assume it is true. I just read through Genesis and Exodus. The repetition of story elements that Christian commentators ignore, is better explained by the combination of separate texts, a non-supernatural progression of a religion. It is fascinating, and gives a glimpse into the history of that time. To me it is more likely not supernatural. Still interesting though.
@MusicalMind9
@MusicalMind9 9 месяцев назад
In a similar thought, I too want a bible or commentary that goes in utterly neutral to extract the meaning. I don't want a Christian denominational flavor. I don't care if the result of honest analysis doesn't fit into a perfectly consistent framework of the whole thing. Study bibles like SBL are of interest to me for that reason, but I think this one was deficient.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
I disagree that those things are criteria for multiple authors, based on their occupance in other ANE literature. I think there are other non-subjective criteria for determining which parts of Torah reveal later editing/updating (such as Moses' death account and the various "...to this day" statements). But Documentary theories almost all build castles in the air based on dubious starting premises and hypothetical reconstructions that are little more than imaginary.
@joestfrancois
@joestfrancois 9 месяцев назад
@@MusicalMind9 wrote "In a similar thought, I too want a bible or commentary that goes in utterly neutral to extract the meaning." I have not bought one, a study bible. I have a copy of The New English Bible that I am reading through right now, It is from 1970, and lots has happened in ancient lit since then, but it is single column and I like that. Half the time I read stuff online as well, so I get all sorts of translations. It has been over 30 years since I read straight through the Old Testament, and I thought I would do that before I bought a study bible.
@joestfrancois
@joestfrancois 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo wrote " But Documentary theories almost all build castles in the air based on dubious starting premises and hypothetical reconstructions that are little more than imaginary." No, not imaginary, and I want you to know that I did not take this opportunity to talk about the imaginary things in the bible. The hypothesis did not come from nothing however, there are indicators. I gather this has to do with the style of the writing, and of course, repeating all sorts of stuff to no purpose. I am taking the word of the scholars here, these are not my conclusions. Clearly though JM, there was a time before the Judaic traditions and writings, and they resemble much of the other religious writing of that time and place. I just read Genesis and Exodus all the way through after many years, this time the first as a non-believer. If you take the christian-goggles off it is strange and convoluted writing. You read it and strive to see how it all fits together, whether you realize it or not. It does not fit together when I read it. The bible is clear as mud and not a very good tool if a creator wanted to let a population know about him/her/it. But the idea that a scribe knitted together different texts is entirely plausible. --------------- An aside here, what does a believer think of Exodus 4:24-26? It makes absolutely no sense as it is written. Moses is just going along doing God's will and all the sudden God is going to kill him. All the commentary seems to talk about Moses not circumfixing his son, but why did it come up then? And how did Moses not do it before? Apparently the language is weird and ambiguous as well. Strange stuff. I have not heard an explanation that did not add to the text.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
@@joestfrancois see the discussion Dr. Carmen Imes and I had here on the channel on that passage specifically as she is working on her upcoming Exodus commentary. And by "imaginary" I mean the entirely hypothetical sources of which there is zero historical evidence apart from the conjecture of 19th century Europeans.
@vetreportsaei4605
@vetreportsaei4605 9 месяцев назад
not too much to commend this one it seems.
@sephardim4yeshua155
@sephardim4yeshua155 9 месяцев назад
Ecumenical study bible, lol. No thanks. I dont need a Muslim who believes that Jesus was replaced on the cross, that Moses' sister and Jesus' mother were the same person, or that God has no son to inform my thinking.
@OrdoSanctiBenedictus
@OrdoSanctiBenedictus 9 месяцев назад
Wow this review never left the tarmac with that tissue paper.😧
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
yeah...it's really awful.
@brianbrownell689
@brianbrownell689 8 месяцев назад
I'm also not a big fan of the speculative hypotheses about the "actual " authorship of some of the books. I agree that it is all based on questionable (at best) criteria.
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
Sbl scholars are also true fheads.😊
@derdadermenzi5294
@derdadermenzi5294 8 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂So, you admit that you are adding more and more and more to the text !!!! Well future generation-x will never know the real part of the textst !!!!!
@HonduranHoneymoonhon
@HonduranHoneymoonhon 9 месяцев назад
Every time I hear something from Documentary Hypothesis People I'm shocked how goofy their statements are.
@brickbreaker8148
@brickbreaker8148 9 месяцев назад
Are all those figurines considered idols?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
They're considered toys by most sane and rational people. Idols aren't toys. They are things one worships and prays to in hopes of manipulating spiritual forces.
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 9 месяцев назад
Are knick knacks idols?
@brickbreaker8148
@brickbreaker8148 9 месяцев назад
Wow, settle down Skippy, Dr. Charles Stanley said they were, guess he wasn't sane.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
@@brickbreaker8148 if he actually taught that children's toys were idols, then no, he was not being sane or rational (or biblical) on that topic.
@brickbreaker8148
@brickbreaker8148 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo he said any object that that takes your attention or mind off of the Godly and to the secular can be considered idolatry.
@js1423
@js1423 9 месяцев назад
Wait, people still think Noah or the pre-flood patriarch existed? And want to be taken seriously?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Yes. Quite a few. That's the beauty of getting out of your echo chamber once in a while.
@js1423
@js1423 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo I mean just guys at American seminaries? Or do you know anyone who teaches at a North American or European research university who holds to those beliefs?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
@@js1423 I'm literally sitting next to a wall of commentaries by many of them from places like Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Duke...Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox. North American, European, Asian, African, South American.
@js1423
@js1423 9 месяцев назад
@@DiscipleDojo I’m talking about scholars, not commentaries. How many tenured Professors, Readers or Lecturers at secular research universities hold to a historical flood that is more or less the same as in Genesis
@israelrivera3009
@israelrivera3009 9 месяцев назад
Wait, people still think Noah or the people God talked with didnt exist....thus making God a liar?? ....may The God of Abraham fear of Isaac have mercy on their souls.
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
Sbl for Morans 😢
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
What a master piece of the devils children 😅
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
God protect the church of you demons 😮
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Why are you watching and commenting so much on this video?You realize that only helps the channel, don't you?
@Daniel-id6le
@Daniel-id6le 9 месяцев назад
Thanks. Saved me $40.00. I like NKJV. Grew up on KJV. JEDP is dead. Those scholars keep building on faulty foundatio. There should be no debate on dating of books in New testament. All of them arr written before 70AD. 1, 2, Timothy, Titus, and Hebrews are all from the work of Paul. Revelation was before 70 AD, not 95AD. All gospels were before 70AD. The scholars who ptoduce bibles like this keep reading and building on there own falsehoods!
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
Disagree on Hebrews and Revelation.
@Daniel-id6le
@Daniel-id6le 9 месяцев назад
Who wrote Hebrews then? Don't tell me only God knows! Why do you hold to 95 AD for Revelation? John said "soon must take place."
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
Stick to the authorized version and flee these demons
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
This sbl is even good for the devil 🤘 and his followers 😅
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
@johnneufeld6019 How many more troll comments do you plan on making on this video?
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
The devil will bless you 🎉
@johnneufeld6019
@johnneufeld6019 9 месяцев назад
The devil must be very proud of you and your sbl scholars😂
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
I think probably about as proud as he is of people who troll youtube comment sections, honestly.
@dennisexplorer487
@dennisexplorer487 9 месяцев назад
From the get go- let me say that Satan has his versions. I believe in the (received text), KJV bible and it's the only one I trust. I have read the bible since I was old enough to read. I have no interest in your SBL bible, plus I will not subscribe nor will I give you a thumbs up. May the God of heaven bless you and help you to find the truth.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 месяцев назад
This is not "my" Bible. I simply review them.