Reviews: The Heroes and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea 

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@@SK-pj8mg I could... but I have the attention span of a squirrel on crack.

Yeah me too lol

@@XxSircampsalotXx I feel you in both comments, bro Let's wait for Friday together

It's definitely Nice here

It's the ocean. Things undulate. There's no getting around it.

At elast this one is happening in the sea, so it's almost justified. Almost.

Then let me recommend Piers Anthony and his Cluster series. It appears over 40 times in each book. Of course this could be considered cheating. He named a whole species "Undulants."

Could have at least got to 20

@@ducky36F agreed

Yes

Personal opinion is that all the English translations actually suck of Vernes works.

I've read translations of Jules Verne in 2 different languages. One in my native language and one in English... the latter was underwhelming. I feel like English speakers often get the short end of the stick when it comes to translated work. I had the same problem with The Witcher series. I don't know why but English translations always come out dry and less immersive. It could be because the language doesn't lend itself to poetic writing, to begin with, but I'm no authority on that so I could be wrong.

The word does exist in French, though ('onduler'). It would be interesting to check if they are in the original text.

Good

The Trouble With Peace was even better than A Little Hatred though.

@@coleton7048 True, Trouble With Peace is maybe my 2nd or 3rd Abercrombie work, though that may just be because it finally made me realize that he has my absolute favorite writing style and that I could probably just read him forever and be happy. 😅

@@nxsardella He's my favorite writer as well. But do you mean it's your second or third book of his you've read? Or that it's you're second or third favorite?

@@coleton7048 Ah yes I meant 2nd or 3rd favorite, I’ve read all his works in order, it just took me until that one to realize that. He’s not actually my favorite writer but the way he writes is my favorite if that makes sense? The way he constructs scenes with subtle details and writes 3rd person point of view is just so good.

@@nxsardella Who's your favorite writer then?

Yeah! It is great to see references, call backs and reappearances from other books.😄 Keep those longtime readers happy I say! Also the way he connects them we can almost see the big picture the way players like Byaz sees it...

Please go read the age of madness, it's AMAZING

Is it glitch, that your comment is from two days ago, but video came out 19 in minutes?

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Half a King, and that series, was my introduction to Abercrombie. As someone who has read some YA, but not a lot, it's still a very adult version of YA, kinda an in between way. He is just too grimdark to fully commit to YA, it felt like. I loved it though. Haven't read it for a long while so I might have to reread it.

I read both this year and liked both.

He is definitely one of the best at writing battles😊 to be honest I almost felt like reading it again right after finishing it😂

If you want more info on Captain Nemo you should read Verne's Mysterious Island. I did not like it nearly as much as 20.000 Leagues Under the Sea but the second part gives more info on Nemo so there is that.

Really not true. Submarines were built as far back as the 1500’s and 1600’s. Verne wrote 20,000 somewhere around the 1870’s. I’ll take Verne’s Nautilus over any of those other designs though. :)

@@DrMetalpin Yeah, that is true. Verne definitely stepped it up though! Lol

Sorry, but that's just not correct. People had been building submarines for a couple of hundred years before Verne was even born - including _Turtle,_ the first submarine put to military use (in the American Revolution), _Nautilus,_ built by Robert Fulton in 1800 and explicitly acknowledged by Verne as inspiring the name of his fictional boat, and _Plongeur,_ a French experimental submarine which Verne inspected in some detail in 1867. It would take another thirty-ish years after the novel's publication for developments in propulsion and armaments technology to make submarines truly *practical,* but "invented" had long since come and gone. Furthermore, most of the "modern" features shared by Verne's _Nautilus_ and the practical descendants of those early pioneers already existed by the time the book was published - including ballast tanks to control buoyancy, hydroplanes to allow rapid and precise changes in depth, internal subdivision into watertight compartments, and a long, narrow hull form for speed - were already known to shipbuilders of the day. The one thing Verne anticipated that was really new was use of a fossil fuel powerplant to charge batteries, which in turn would drive the ship forward with electricity. But Verne's model of "mining coal from the seabed and burning it to separate sodium for a sodium-mercury battery" is pretty different in detail from "running diesel generators to charge lead-acid batteries." TL;DR, Verne's _Nautilus_ was much more inspired by existing submarines than it was an inspiration for future developments.

@@Philistine47 Thanks for the lesson, but yeah, maybe should have worded my comment better. My point was that he popularized it and others may have taken his ideas and turned them into what we see today! ;)

Does it have a lot of torture. I want to read it but I can’t handle torture scenes very well.

@@Florfilm Can't remember actually. Don't think so. But it does have plenty of gruesome stuff. If you can handle his other books you should be fine.

@@captainblubber I haven't read any of his other books. I'll give this a try. It's the one that intrigues me most.

I read that book 11 times in the 5th grade! Loved it so much. Why are the movies so terrible?

Late comment (I didn't see the video until 5 days after it was released), but this song stuck in my head from the moment she said 'narwhal'.

@@Adam-se5ur yup

I mean it is difficult to compare the two... but personally I think I prefer war to vengeance... but safe to say that he does both phenomenally😊

Are you referring to Brand or Thorn?

@@nxsardella Thorn. She is so strong and flawed. I like Brand too.

Spoiler but what magic ;) I loved that trilogy. If you liked his twist. read "Prince of thornes" by Mark Lawrence he kinda does the same thing playing with the tecnical genre of his universes. loved 'em (read you comment again you've read all tree i understand now but the recomdation is good if you hav'nt read the Broken Empire trilogy give it a chance I found it a great read 8.8/10

I know it's a classic, but didn't Merphy specifically explained, how to avoid spoliers? :P

Spoiler!!! ☹️

Years ago, Saturday Night Live did a whole sketch about this.

While the characters that Abercrombie writes might not always be the most relatable, he still manages to get the reader to understand their motives. To me understandable characters are often more important than relatable ones. I kind of agree that his stand alone books are better, but then again I think that it makes sense to view the First Law series as a single story split up in to three parts, and also all of the stories are connected... Each story depicts moves made by the real players of the world he has build and their subsequent consequences most of which only seem to affect the smaller players or pieces really...

Also if you haven’t yet you definitely should😊 it is definitely worth the read!😊

Don’t say that yet 😊 The way Abercrombie writes battle in this book is unrivaled... but also there is a lot of characters in this one so maybe dot down a few notes as to not get confused... I kind of wish I had done that... I have a feeling that I could have gotten a lot more out off it if I had done that🤔

I mean it makes sense that it is not quite up to par with First Law... It is some of his earlier work... not saying that it is not worth the read 😊 I actually think that a lot of fantasy gets a bad rep just because they have been categorized as YA... I think a lot of fantasy authors come into their writing styles by starting out with a lower risk passion project such as a YA... And having read most of his newer works it might be fun to go back and see how he tackled a YA Viking series... Would you say it is worth adding to my tbr?

@@miokjr6286 The Shattered Sea trilogy actually was written after the First Law trilogy and all three standalones so in a sense it’s one of his more recent works! Strictly speaking the writing/prose in it is probably better than the original First Law stuff and the style isn’t “dumbed down” for YA or anything like that. It’s just different - I’m not sure he even set out to write a YA series per se, that’s just where it ended up, because it truly isn’t any less adult than a lot of what’s marketed as adult fantasy (especially if you’re talking classic stuff which usually focused on teen/young adult characters and was low on super explicit content/language). The main characters are all teens (though one of the neat things about the trilogy is that each book focuses on a new set of POV characters with a time jump so that the previous POV characters feature as side characters and are a bit older) so naturally there’s a significant coming of age/finding one’s place in the world theme. If you enjoy Abercrombie’s style and are looking for more they’re definitely worth a go.

I want to read an Abercrombie book but I can’t do torture. It triggers me so much. Is there much torture in this book. I little I can handle but not Glokta levels.

@@Florfilm Glokta isn’t in this book and there is no torture scenes as far as I remember... Only gruesome battle😊

@@miokjr6286 Thanks. I'll try this book. Gruesome battle I can handle most of the time.

I would consider those characters more hopeful than optimistic...at least most of them... and the stamping I would consider them coming to terms with hard reality and giving them the opportunity to reevaluate their stand and choices.😊

Also even though they seem to come out alright in the end I personally think that most of them have just been put on hold for a while😊

@@miokjr6286 oh yeah these are way better put than what I was trying to say lol!

Ever since Merphy's video, I keep seeing undulating everywhere. It's terrifying

@@sumaitarahelaali2161 I know right. The word undulating is going to keep undulating before us forever now

How does John Gwynne compare to Abercrombie? He is also writing grim dark isn’t he? I’ve been considering picking up one of his books, but would love to know a little bit more about his writing style before committing to a new author😊

@@miokjr6286 I'm glad you're asking me that as the quality of the prose is very important to me too! For now, I prefer John Gwynne's writing and overall structure (his world-building is really good, he intertwines it with the story in clever ways). I got attached to his characters quicker because you immediately jump into family dynamics, where we are mostly following broken, lonely and violent characters in The Blade Itself. Gwynne's older characters are also mysterious and intriguing. I can't really explain it very well as I've read The Blade Itself in February, so it's not as fresh in my mind, but once I get to Before They Are Hanged (I should pick it up by the 20th of June) I could give you a better idea. I'd say Gwynne seems to have a better balance between plot and characters and I love his descriptions of the world (I think it was a bit lacking with Abercrombie, at least in the first book - but maybe I'm saying that because Gwynne describes things more lyrically). I hope it was helpful, but I'll need to read a bit more before making my mind.

“The whole cast is nothing but villains.” Don’t you do my precious Friendly and Shivers like that, they both deserve to be protected at all costs. 😤 Everyone else is certainly a villain though. 😂

The highlighted comment spelled it the same, which got me on edge

Not silly at all really.😊 I mean even the stand alones aren’t really stand alones... at least not if you’ve read the other books 😄 to me the stand alones hints of what is to come, and sometimes clues to the strategies implemented by the big players in the world he has built.

Then again any of the stand alones are probably a good entry point for his style of writing and if people get hooked they can always go back and read the previous books... Also isn’t it a mark of great writer that he has something exiting for both new and long time readers😊