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Richard Cabral explains how to stay out of trouble after time in prison 

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@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
“If you don’t have anyone to turn to, you turn on each other.” That was shockingly deep.
@williamalexanderart
@williamalexanderart Год назад
Great to see you here Ramsey! Always got time for what you have to say! 🌏☮️✌️ Edit* I just realised my personal profile is subbed to you but my content channel wasn't, so you have 2 subs from me now 👍👊
@bainze9
@bainze9 Год назад
Lowkey doesn’t make sense. You can just turn to the people referred to as ‘each other’ instead.
@oliviadominguez8224
@oliviadominguez8224 Год назад
@@bainze9 you dont get what hes saying.
@geramaier4673
@geramaier4673 Год назад
Does turn to means beefing ?
@jesusenriquez2932
@jesusenriquez2932 Год назад
Prisons down here in the south are mainly populated by the Latinos, there’s so many different kinds of Latino gangs that they just fight each other instead of clicking up with their own race.
@brandonstakemann997
@brandonstakemann997 Год назад
Jon deserves an award for his listening abilities
@ebenitez1990
@ebenitez1990 Год назад
😂
@joshuakirby1424
@joshuakirby1424 Год назад
Yh I agree wit u on dat 💯 and also you can tell he's listening by the way he just looks at you and captivated by wat your saying
@yeahbuddy4712
@yeahbuddy4712 Год назад
When this home boy is talking...you got no choice bro
@peterpanza9010
@peterpanza9010 Год назад
What passion from this dude
@tinocontreras5105
@tinocontreras5105 Год назад
Its koo he dont try and interrupt or throw in questions mid answer. And he wants to get to the point
@ApleJuth
@ApleJuth Год назад
Jon's ability to keep conversation going but also let the guests completely tell their story is incredible. Top tier man! Keep it up. Love it
@garethreid47
@garethreid47 Год назад
Dude, all these podcasts popping up where the host just cuts the guest off continuously is so frustrating (Steve-O and Howard Stern come to mind). Jon lets them tell their story and only "interrupts" to get them to elaborate is awesome. He really does want to hear their stories...
@brianwright4696
@brianwright4696 Год назад
I spent 15 years in prison. Today I’m bartending and raising my 3 year old son with my beautiful Salvadoran wife. Sometimes I feel sorry for myself for what I could’ve been. Then I think, 5 years ago I was making .17$ an hour coming off 2 years in solitary confinement. Success is relative to where a person has been and what they’ve been through
@_CharcoalGrace_
@_CharcoalGrace_ Год назад
Don’t know you, but I’m proud of you bro! Keep grinding and pushing forward
@billzUTD
@billzUTD Год назад
Stay safe brother.
@Graffitiplug
@Graffitiplug Год назад
Preach everyones idea of happiness is different proud you still out bro. May God bless you and everyone going thru the same thing 🙏
@joshuasanchezaxume9724
@joshuasanchezaxume9724 Год назад
Amen brotha !! Keep it going
@Adam_S4
@Adam_S4 Год назад
Good for you bro, takes a real man to get out that lifestyle and handle your business especially after being down for 15. You made it out for a reason, keep showing your son how to be a Real Man. ✌🏽💜
@cosmicduality1341
@cosmicduality1341 Год назад
Richard is an incredible dude,the infinite depth and sadness in his eyes. Yet strength is intense,I know exactly how he feels.
@nutellacheese7624
@nutellacheese7624 Год назад
yeah you can literally see tears.
@fuqwhatyouthink4465
@fuqwhatyouthink4465 Год назад
Jon Berthnal got the same energy in person as he does in movies. Very phenomenal individual
@sayoshinakamario
@sayoshinakamario Год назад
Dudes a nut case
@juliodiaz1065
@juliodiaz1065 Год назад
Isnt he the one in end of watch
@ckompktonero
@ckompktonero Год назад
@@juliodiaz1065 Richard cabral? Yes before acting he was rapping with Charlie row campo & went by baby jokes
@kevinvigil5867
@kevinvigil5867 Год назад
I wouldn't fuck with him... I know that look... I have the same look... It's the look of You can try but don't test me.... Cause I have no limits. If shit has to go down deep it's coming.
@tornadowarrior4534
@tornadowarrior4534 Год назад
Jon just gets it. Let’s them speak there truth. Love it
@gazzy9136
@gazzy9136 Год назад
Exactly. They are on a podcast for a reason, to tell their story. A lot of podcast owners just make it about them mostly, asking pointless questions and interrupt them all the time
@classactkirk
@classactkirk Год назад
This dude is such a inspiration,reminds me of old friends I grew up with. I love his acting
@momoftm2116
@momoftm2116 Год назад
Especially Shane in TWD
@CezaMVO
@CezaMVO Год назад
Richard is so captivating. I remember seeing him on American Crime, and I was blown away. He has my full attention anytime i see him in anything new. He's making mexians everywhere proud 🇲🇽
@Trill.Clipz.Channel
@Trill.Clipz.Channel Год назад
One of my favorite characters from Mayans . Glad he did this interview
@TheEnnisfan
@TheEnnisfan Год назад
JB is a master at listening. You can also tell it's not some bullshit act. You can see it in his eyes that he's genuinely engaged. It's part of his craft. To be a great actor, like him, you have to observe and listen, and that's precisely what he does on his podcast. I've never seen a podcast where the host doesn't interrupt the guest. This dude just listens and lets his guest spit everything out. Podcasters pay attention. This is how you do shit the right way.
@ludacris3383
@ludacris3383 Год назад
He don't give a fuck about this tweaker bro.
@TheEnnisfan
@TheEnnisfan Год назад
@@ludacris3383 I guess that's why he invited him on his show, right dummy?
@ludacris3383
@ludacris3383 Год назад
@@TheEnnisfan ya, just for views
@BllueJeeper
@BllueJeeper Год назад
"JB" pfft
@matthewporter4439
@matthewporter4439 Год назад
Its amazing you showing the raw emotions of the interviews, you are truly a exclusive person. From your backstory to your movies/Tv Show's. Amazing work.❤️
@alex561
@alex561 Год назад
I need the full thing man this guy's fascinating. Seen him in The Counselor. Love this dude.
@niallhatton5113
@niallhatton5113 Год назад
Richard is a real one and it takes a real one like Jon to be certified enough to receive his message like this
@CRAZY-bi7fz
@CRAZY-bi7fz Год назад
I can truly appreciate this conversation and these two men especially Jon.
@BleedGreen2l5
@BleedGreen2l5 Год назад
Why especially Jon tho
@CRAZY-bi7fz
@CRAZY-bi7fz Год назад
@@BleedGreen2l5 never met the guy would love to. But I just know a little more about him obviously because he’s famous but he really seems like a really good guy. Nothing but respect for Jon
@taintedtroll7051
@taintedtroll7051 Год назад
Love Richard Cabral , the first season of American Crime was so good because of him
@conejoXX209
@conejoXX209 Год назад
He was going hard in CHARLIE ROW
@fatherjudy
@fatherjudy Год назад
and Paranormal Activity: Marked Ones! he’s one of the best parts of that movie
@mrmakeembreakitdown
@mrmakeembreakitdown Год назад
Don't forget his role as coco on Mayans was just awesome
@Ty-pf6np
@Ty-pf6np Год назад
He was in this one movie called end of watch made by the creator of training day 10/10
@keyannahwheaton1521
@keyannahwheaton1521 Год назад
@@Ty-pf6np damn I never realized that but it makes sense now because of the setting I didn’t know that was him
@raedhammad6753
@raedhammad6753 Год назад
Jon made all of us believe that he been doin the show forever and he been the best interviewer for many years.. he's just a great gut and he never interpreted his guest and let them speak freely.. Just amazing wish u the best bro Keep doin ur thing .
@beso1
@beso1 Год назад
Thank you Jon for giving these young, misunderstood men a platform to voice their experiences and tribulations. So many young men AND women fall into gang life all over the country, and very few care to ask why. The majority are quick to judge, but never bother to try and understand what they’ve been through. Some of them just need someone who will listen and care. Gang banging culture is often glorified in the media, and that is a problem. There’s a difference between expressing real pain vs. claiming a lifestyle.
@itsAngryKitten
@itsAngryKitten Год назад
Richard Cabral is an amazing actor. Ever see his movies? If you like horror madres is really cool trippy dystopian movie. Hen has a great story on top of talent. ✌️
@realessayog6947
@realessayog6947 Год назад
I just love how Jon asks his questions which are all relevant and not leading to self snitching/drama. GREAT CLIP !!!!
@momentsoftriumph5972
@momentsoftriumph5972 Год назад
Richard’s energy is contagious. He’s probably always had this in him.. it’s great to see he’s channeling it in a productive way now. He can change peoples lives with his words and energy. Very authentic
@SargyC
@SargyC Год назад
I just found this channel and I wish I had it found sooner. It hits home so hard. We need more REAL ONES! THANK YOU
@halflucan
@halflucan Год назад
Jon, we all may know you from The Walking Dead or The Punisher But this, this is far more "the" most important work. Giving these people voices, Greg Boyle S.J.
@murk8289
@murk8289 Год назад
I can’t wait to see this full interview because the last 2 videos have been captivating
@escodard2174
@escodard2174 Год назад
I remember watching Richard Cabral’ - Lo Maximo 2013 video a few years ago and as an Australian, he really did deliver a speech that had me in bloody tears with the passion, truth and held nothing back in his message. You definitely took me and made me feel the world you grew up in. Prayers out to the all the homeboys and homegirls making changes for the bettering(if that’s a word) and positive impact of your community and keeping you culture alive when the odds can be against you in America. Your culture is loved world wide. ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾
@mhutch5082
@mhutch5082 Год назад
Your an anzac act like one . We aren't raised around Mexicans and you know it . Stop fan boying. Have that energy for the aboriginals
@at1084
@at1084 Год назад
Absolutely brother. Well said. 🤝🇲🇽
@heatherandhawk
@heatherandhawk Год назад
Love to listen to his stories. The same way I listen to his old friend, my man's stories. I'm so happy they were able to get out, meet Father G and change their lives. It would be so cool to see them reconnect.
@francissmithers952
@francissmithers952 Год назад
This was a great interview, and I love that jon let's his guest talk without interrupting them and I'm a big fan of Richard Cabral
@bear9511
@bear9511 Год назад
All of these conversations are an art form of its own
@richparsons8697
@richparsons8697 Год назад
Thank you for telling your story, nothing but love and respect
@firelordazulon9001
@firelordazulon9001 Год назад
Father Greg is a true man. He use to be the priest at Delores Mission in East LA. I've had family baptized by him and he held the mass for both my mom's parents when they passed. I can honestly say that Father Greg is the only guy that can live up to the standards the Church sets for its people to follow. He's the only priest that is true to their word.
@ThatGuy-sc5rx
@ThatGuy-sc5rx Год назад
Funny you say that because ive heard his name for decades and how a solid and honorable man he is. like you say a good example of a real Christian and servant of God.
@DavidGonzalez-cf5ym
@DavidGonzalez-cf5ym Год назад
I knew this carnal as Baby Jokes…he used to rap and I used to idolize him. It validates my moves to better my life. Because these emotions are complicated, at the same time that we made our lives better, we feel conflicted on our growth.
@banueloseighty784
@banueloseighty784 Год назад
Baby Jokes from Charlie Row Campo. I still listen to that but in a different way.
@devtheedudee916
@devtheedudee916 Год назад
So passionate in every story he tells . Dope interview
@asalinas958
@asalinas958 Год назад
I love how raw and deep this is 💯💯
@rainiechoo5570
@rainiechoo5570 Год назад
This is such a great episode He’s such a story teller I hope he gets what he’s deserves in his career he’s deserves it !
@deangarcia4478
@deangarcia4478 Год назад
I know the feeling spending ten years of my life in texas prisons Our streets are no different than LA with the violence and bloodshed it might not be neighborhood to neighborhood but being involved in drug trafficking made us targets not just for the law but our own. Doing time inside I was tango blast our enemies were many but having your homeboys back is for life. I'm a truckdriver now over 20 years I was released in 2000. . I never looked back at my old life but I still run into homeboys once in awhile. Thank you jon and Richard for that interview 🙏. It was eye opening to a world governed by strict rules of death and life.
@realessayog6947
@realessayog6947 Год назад
Richard telling his story RAW and UNCUT. Mr. Bernthal, you're an amazing host for allowing your guests, all of them, to speak out and vent... Richard did his best here by not self snitching or over exaggerating. Great content man.
@waterboy0873
@waterboy0873 Год назад
please don leave this as the ending. This is a real deal message in the conversation you guys are having..Thank you both.. God Bless
@allendirectorr330
@allendirectorr330 Год назад
This channel deserves so much more attention
@alienjess7038
@alienjess7038 Год назад
this interview deserves some type of award. this is amazinggg!!!!
@MillionaireMinDs305
@MillionaireMinDs305 Год назад
Mad love. Keep pushing homies
@jasonrussell4912
@jasonrussell4912 Год назад
Scattered points to connecting dots. The world needs more of these stories.
@drmr
@drmr Год назад
Jon you got a fan here bro. Thank you for these interviews and all the movies brother.
@gambinogodbody6198
@gambinogodbody6198 Год назад
The fact that Jon takes the time and effort to listen to all his guess is beautiful no interruptions no arguing no yelling just great not to mention all the knowledge ideas emotions he sees from theses dudes he could use to improve his acting skills even more
@Blendline
@Blendline Год назад
We need more of this interview !! 🔥🔥🔥
@Koolmoedeesimpson
@Koolmoedeesimpson Год назад
Jon is the perfect podcast host for letting the guest speak his mind not interrupting while simultaneously slippin in the right questions at the right moments kudos
@elijahdavis763
@elijahdavis763 Год назад
Jon brother you doing great thing with your show and the certain stories and truth that are coming out of it are touching not just me, but anyone cuz we all human. Keep doing it man and God bless you for it. Amazing actor too by the way!
@byrong474
@byrong474 Год назад
I would love to see more of this interview. I grew up in east LA too and know how hard it was going up surrounded by gangs. Not an easy task for a kid.
@HaZe_Da_PiTBuLL
@HaZe_Da_PiTBuLL Год назад
I’ve been looking for this whole interview
@MiguelSanchez-ul6cz
@MiguelSanchez-ul6cz Год назад
Once you said Father G! All respects homie, he helped save my life and also saved so many others. You got that right about Father G. Ain’t nobody else I can’t think of other then him as a real Father!! Much love and respect from this Homeboy to another!!! Really talk from the homie, frfr.
@bigskeezy6497
@bigskeezy6497 Год назад
I want to see this whole episode… sounds good so far
@delfinobarrera3115
@delfinobarrera3115 Год назад
Dam I really b listening to this interviews on my 12 hour shift at work. Dope stuff to heard about life.
@CE916004
@CE916004 Год назад
Outstanding Is an understatement for both these gentlemen. Greatest inspiration ever.
@kymandjamesshh
@kymandjamesshh Год назад
This is the episode that is needed most too bad it's only seen on patreon.
@619sandiego8
@619sandiego8 Год назад
Great interview 👊🏼
@timpower6077
@timpower6077 Год назад
This conversation will be awesome to watch in full
@ChillWheelz
@ChillWheelz Год назад
This guy has so much energy, love it.
@garyny4073
@garyny4073 Год назад
He maybe pinging that's why so much energy 😂😂🥃🚬
@brasstacksboxing409
@brasstacksboxing409 Год назад
So yeah, john... Imma' need that whole interview in full, ASAP! PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
@renildoshehi4055
@renildoshehi4055 Год назад
I never seen Richard open up in this way . Real cool dude and shout out to Jon bro . Badass interview
@TReaperMusic
@TReaperMusic Год назад
Wow can hear these two talk for hours , super interesting dudes , much respect
@mightysaitama5749
@mightysaitama5749 Год назад
damn this dude story telling is on another level, I swear it’s like chopping it up with an old homie and he tells you how he has been since he MIA around the block… crazy shit.
@yellowmud123
@yellowmud123 Год назад
He's listening and observing qualities are unbelievable. I've bounced from snippets to snippets. What a podcast this shit is mad....
@jorgefernandez8408
@jorgefernandez8408 Год назад
I met this dude at a gas station in Utah, dude was humble and really out going! Dope ass interaction with him!
@OrlandoGTR450
@OrlandoGTR450 Год назад
Amazing interview 🙌🙌
@keenanpalmer6085
@keenanpalmer6085 Год назад
Jon Berthal listens & adds to the interview by asking engaging questions that adds to the interview & it allows the guest to open up more.
@kingfrostLa
@kingfrostLa Год назад
Mad respect 🙏 best show out here
@allahisnumberone1846
@allahisnumberone1846 Год назад
I need to see this whole interview
@DeadUponAll
@DeadUponAll Год назад
Coco is one character I wish didn't die in Mayans MC, Richard was great.
@JohnnyAFG81
@JohnnyAFG81 Год назад
His energy is incredible. Jon really knows how to choose his guests!
@joemema7254
@joemema7254 Год назад
thats meth bro haha
@joemema7254
@joemema7254 Год назад
@MEXI 🇲🇽 bruh look at his eyes haha
@joemema7254
@joemema7254 Год назад
@MEXI 🇲🇽 look how big they are tf lol
@anne2real763
@anne2real763 Год назад
@@joemema7254 if he was on meth u could easily tell, he not doing anything but talking fast but that’s cuz he just reliving what he’s experienced so it hittin him again, he’d be tweakin if he was on meth, u sound dumb asf
@MrCarter24
@MrCarter24 Год назад
the way john just lets people talk and almost lets them control the show is something you dont find very much, this was a great one.
@RayMrCustumerService
@RayMrCustumerService Год назад
This guy is so animating. It’s great
@dragon-cloud
@dragon-cloud Год назад
I only know Richard cabral from the movie bloodfather with mel gibson. Crazy movie and he definitely shows how real things can get in life through the big screen. Very much enjoy your podcast Jon. I am not too big a fan of tv shows but loved walking dead. My neighbor actually just won a contest from jeffrey dean morgan(neegan) which he videotaped himself packing up dirt from the front of rick & michonne’s house in Alexandria set from walking dead. Bagged, autographed and mailed to my neighbor. Thought you played an awesome role as ben afflecks brother in The Accountant as well as being Shane! Keep up the amazing work and thank you! 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏🤜🤛 Cheers 👋👋🍻🍻🥂🥂☕️☕️🔥🔥 🐉☁️
@user-zh6sh8qv9k
@user-zh6sh8qv9k Год назад
I want to hear more with this guy Hes a good story teller You can hear his emotions it's real These 2 videos with him were entertaining to watch
@marxbl8430
@marxbl8430 Год назад
I don’t really watch podcasts but i enjoyed this one ☝️🙏
@phoenixking7449
@phoenixking7449 Год назад
Absolutely Love Richard Cabral💯 Sorry Jon ..my bad, both of these Men...😁.. Awesome Human Beings💯 But Richard, I feel you. I cry every time he speaks. It's the very real Pain, the very real Anguish, I feel every bit of it.
@edubbz05
@edubbz05 Год назад
Damn when I tell stories about back in the day I get this way telling it, I finally see someone who gets like me just talking about the old days ... one of the best podcasts episodes ever
@kirtjames1353
@kirtjames1353 Год назад
You can see the intensity in this mans eyes. Translates well to acting for sure. I'll be looking for his work from now on in.
@RawSharksJournal
@RawSharksJournal Год назад
Richard was definitely the most loco one in the gang. Much love!
@sikiwitit3551
@sikiwitit3551 Год назад
Honest best podcast your a true gentleman and good for guest 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@MrOmar818
@MrOmar818 Год назад
I can listen to Richard all day
@Mines22
@Mines22 Год назад
Thankyou for having real vatos from the real world speak on there life.
@Jm-is9ig
@Jm-is9ig Год назад
This is probably the most compelling interview I've ever seen I can listen to this guy talk for hours I wish you would release the whole podcast on RU-vid
@jeffreydon3456
@jeffreydon3456 Год назад
Where's the whole interview
@Jaycharles93-bk4xj
@Jaycharles93-bk4xj Год назад
Holy shit , this was a legendary interview, every street dude who watches this will relate to this and it could change them , this is probably your best interview no matter the views
@JuanMendez-mf6yz
@JuanMendez-mf6yz Год назад
damn. i love this show. thanks for everything!
@bmkris5106
@bmkris5106 Год назад
They Needa make a movie together, that shit would be amazing. Two real ones in a movie can’t get any better than that
@angelcorrea985
@angelcorrea985 Год назад
This hits so hard inside of me. Listening to Richard open like this reminds me that all of us, no matter what state, what we rep, our street, what nationality we descend from and for a lot lot us, the nationality is north America even. The border moved on my mother's side of my blood. When California became a state, the landowning families that had established succeseful Vinyard companies and produce farms became American citizens and they were all Mexican by nationality but Iberian by descent. They came when Spain came, they settled in Califas way before a lot of European immigrants even came here. Most of the Ortega families have been American longer than all of the colonists. Both of my ancestors, Ortega and Correa were here before the fucking pilgrims and the colonists. So some people would say I'm Mexican and I'm like, no not really. I'm not an Aztec in not Mayan My dad might have been born in Mexico but we were conquistador descendants. we are Iberian, the Ortega are Iberian. So I say I'm Californian and Floridian. I'm more American than the white Amercans who forget They are not natives and America is a Spanish name. We named this place. My blood from Europe came in 1502... anyway. No matter where our names come from. La Raza is la Raza and when I listen to Richard be open and passionate, I see a cousin, a brother, I see me and it makes me wish I could just gather all of us up. The Chicano youth in every state. Every cholo, banger or just a homeboy thats down for his shit but never had to commit cuz were not all active. I would love to have us all just open up and just listen to each other... we are all the fucking same. The culture two or three states away is exactly the same as the other. We talk the same, we bottle up the same, we explode the same, we put up the same hard shell and if we all would just drop it at the same time and talk. We would see we got an army of men, young men even kids that are the most closed up of all. And we all have the same pain that we channel into rage and we just want to warrior up and call out another warrior because like Richard said, we didn't have anything but other warriors to listen and care. I think if we saw ourselves in the eyes of every homeboy we might introduce ourselves instead of throwing up a set, we might just take a stroll and give an ear to each other instead of giving each other a T.o.H.. man I wonder what a fantasy like that could do for la Raza if it became reality.
@Mim795
@Mim795 Год назад
Beautiful words, thanks for sharing 🙌🏻
@Streetpharmasist420
@Streetpharmasist420 Год назад
Great interview,
@plutobaby9996
@plutobaby9996 Год назад
This foo is so real like so fucking real you can see the pain in homie’s eyes
@jeffreydon3456
@jeffreydon3456 Год назад
Pookie makes u change ur life
@moebelmontes4821
@moebelmontes4821 Год назад
This one hit different. Real deep!!
@NovaaktheKING
@NovaaktheKING Год назад
Man I need this whole interview 🥺🥺🥺🥺
@RGTomoenage11
@RGTomoenage11 Год назад
Thank you for sharing….
@Chapinaqueen
@Chapinaqueen Год назад
Baby jokessssssssss omg I’m glad he got his life together fr mad respect
@chrisluna635
@chrisluna635 Год назад
I hope he can realize that he can evolve past the negativity. I think this guy is truly talented. I enjoy his work, every time I see it....
@n8wavy
@n8wavy Год назад
I need more videos of these two!
@miamijefe7793
@miamijefe7793 Год назад
I remember one of his hood homies gave me advice when I was having girlfriend problems. He said, "F love......... how do you pronounce love backward?". I read it backward and it said "EVOL" ..lol
@andrewangulo4546
@andrewangulo4546 Год назад
Wow this gave me the chills I had to like and subscribe at the same time 💯
@javiermiranda2568
@javiermiranda2568 Год назад
Love it here great interviews great stories lots knowledge being dropped
@wiseguyps438
@wiseguyps438 Год назад
Richard Cabral speaks with heart”
@zanyrom3192
@zanyrom3192 Год назад
I remember this dude from the movie the counselor (2013). Very under rate movie, very unique and accurate about drug tracking and having some high paying actors in it
@Oogaboogaboo187
@Oogaboogaboo187 Год назад
Incredible actor, Podcaster and therapist
@LeaveChrisAlone18
@LeaveChrisAlone18 Год назад
Yeah at this point I'm subscribing to the Patreon lol this is amazing
@JR-nf1tb
@JR-nf1tb Год назад
My respect for Richard went up after hearing his story, facts, keeps it treal