Hello all. I am the person, along with my brother, who took this video. The brown belt I am getting mauled by is Mark Eccard. This video was taken in at a seminar on Saturday April 9th , 1994 in Oak park, Illinois. It is a suburb of Chicago. The seminar was put on by a Hapkido guy named Kellar. Pretty much everyone there, except for some wrestlers and judo guys knew no grappling or bjj. I think all those guys wearing knee and elbow pads were JKD guys but I may be wrong. these were the days when there were virtually no access to bjj except through seminars and videotapes.
I recall in the '80s, sparring & lifting on Mare Island, in Vallejo, C.A. A gym girl would post papers up: Dennis Alexio, Cathy Long, news of Ken Shamrock (across the Bay, in Napa)... Gracies had schools in Beverly Hills, Torrance... They had the seminars, often attendance fees, participation fees. I recall hearing they did Hollywood coaching, incl. Lethal Weapon. I lived some in S.L.O, while I was in the C.C.C. I, Brandon Gobi (wrestled in San Diego area with Mario Lopez, he said), Javier Segura ( Echo Park ), & some CCC fellas practiced JKD with Cal Poly wrestlers. JKD emphasized grappling, after bridging the gap. We ended up having a few differently-ruled groups, the few guys doing 2 rules, often regretting it. Some guys sub. grappling, only. Never met Chuck Liddell (attended Cal Poly), but heard he was door manning college parties, & wasn't to be bugged. (Side note: I got kicked out of a bar in SLO, by a midget bouncer, no joke. I wasnt 21, thought carrying visible Amaretto in pocket, & drinking, would prevent being carded...didn't know ya couldn't BYOB... Midget asked what's in my pocket. I said " No banana, & I ain't happy to see you."). I took advantage of a couple of foreign Cal Poly students, one a Russian with much real experience. Also had a couple of very good foreign fighter coworkers. Intro. to Pradal Serei (sp.?), & knees n elbows Thai, not N. American Thai. My prime sensei then, no joke, was a C.C.C. security guard named Jim. Brandon & Alfonso Eiter ( Oceanside skate fight vid.s in 90s) called Jim "Lefty." He had half one arm missing. His spec. was Aikido & Jiu Jitsu. C.A. was the hotbed for proving ground techniques swirling. I lived up to Emerald Triangle area, but mostly in the Bay, where (Oakland) I think J.K.D was cemented. Had other hybrids, incl. KaJuKenBo. Regularly, someone was pushing some style. Shamrock's in Napa, & down near Lodi, were pitching Pancrase. I checked out what I could. Recall even getting kicked out of a "Death Touch" seminar, in ' Frisco, for choking out a bully. Never made it big. Raisin' kids was cooler.
@@charlesstrong1013 Not a chance. They weren't even doing the most basic things you learn on your first day. Look at how they're trying to pass guard. When Rickson is on top they're not even locking their legs up to set their guard up. No hip escapes, not trying to get a knee in, no frames, nothing.
You can definitely tell they're wrestlers. Many of them tried to submit while in the guard, and that just will not work with someone as experienced as Rickson. They're in a losing position when in his guard and don't seem to know it.
So sad that people can't just respect someone's skill without getting into hypothetical garbage about who would beat who etc. Watch and try to learn something or work hard until you are confident enough to put your own videos up for comment.
BJJ is still evolving and has evolved a great deal since those days. That is Rickson rolling with dudes who had completely no idea what BJJ was and this was almost 20 years ago. The game is faster now, more technical and the competition is very, very stiff! That is why i just laugh when Gracie lovers suggest that Rickson is the Greatest BJJ player of all time. In my opinion Marcelo Garcia would whoop that ass! That is simply my opinion.
I know all there is to know about Rickson.He was an idol of mine when i was into BJJ.He never fought the big wrestler/strikers that came into the UFC like Tank and Frye.My opinion stays the same if he had fought Don frye about the time that Frye beat the hell out of Amery Beteti he would have lost probably before it got to the ground.
Rickson was a great BBJ player and using this he could beat average fighters easily.I wanted him to fight the likes of Don Frye in his prime or even Tank Abbot.People who could wrestle and strike.My gut feeling is Rickson would have got his head knocked off unless of course he managed to get it to the ground which depends on whether he got punched because he was terrible at stand up.
his style doesn't fit well with modern MMA, he has a mastery of traditional BJJ, he methodically dominates his opponents and makes them look like fools with the most simple submissions, however even if it hits the ground, modern MMA guys are much more athletic, explosion, and more out of the box with their BJJ as well as mixing in GnP. even if he took top control in guard, he would either be stalled out or the person would scramble to his feet, like Cain vs Lesnar (for scrambling to the feet)
I too have trained and followed jiuuuu-jiiitsuu since the start, and though respect Rickson greatly, the fact of the matter is, both Takada and Funaki have landed one, clean blow. True, Rickson creamed them afterwards, but Takada and Funaki weren't even considered great in their time. Styles make fights. Dunno about your examples but yeah, Rickson could well have lost against a prime Frye. Anybody who can snuff a takedown and throw hands could have done it. Shit, Rizzo, Pete Williams maybe....
Late to the party, but Don Frye was a SERIOUSLY overrated fighter. Almost all of his wins were over second or third tier competitors - 3 wins over ground clueless Mark Hall, two wins over an untrained Gary Goodridge (and Goodridge knocked his ass out after he'd learned a little), zero trained Tomas Ramirez, boxercise teacher Sam Adkins, the pro wrestling Japanese guys, Akebono, Cyril Abidi. Hidehiko Yoshida's first MMA fight was against Frye and Yoshida broke Frye's arm in an armbar. Rickson would have mauled Frye.
Imagine if the guy at the 4:00 minute mark had submitted Rickson (not that he was close). His entire legacy would be destroyed simply because a guy wearing pants like that got the better of him once.
Ryan Lynch "You can learn a lot from watching even though these guys are clearly beginners. Look at how he set up the triangle at 1:30. Really slick." Very true Ryan. i got this VCR tape in '95. No real BBJ school in the USA...maybe in NY or LA. True they are just beginners but watching Rickson's moves helped me a lot during the early 90's. There wasn't much info about technique about BJJ so you have to pick up what you could. I bought lots of these types of tape. Lol....I remember when Tapout was just some little webpage that covered the MMA back in the 90's. Now it seems like everyone is running around with Tapout shirts.
It's been quoted by MANY of todays Top Jui Jitsu, MMA & grapplers that Rickson was and could possibly be the best GROUND fighter of all time... What would happen if he fought a Silva,GSP,Jon Jones when he was in his prime.... If they could avoid being taken down they would win hands down but if Rickson got you down, it's game over... Considering most fights go to the ground even in MMA today, Rickson would have been a very good chance of being the best in todays MMA world.
Haha. I just re read my post. I see that I sound sarcastic. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be. I actually think its great. I'm showing this vid to my young kids that are just starting bjj, and they're learning from it.
Hahaha, well I doubt there was a Barra in Chicago in '94, but I could be wrong. It looks like its in some sort of gymnasium, like a high school or a rec center, with the pull out bleachers in back and the wrestling mat that they're sparring on.
The only gracie i respect is royce apart from zulu and dis wrestler he didnt face the real tests dat royce did such as shamrock, pardoe, severn, kimo, sakuraba, hughes i really wish todd hayes hadnt injured his arm and faced rickson at da japan vale tudo he would have been in a fight dats 4 sure
The Jiujitsu then compared to now was match more methodical. Jiujitsu now is all fast pace with wrestling and leg locks. No gi took over and the gi is virtually fading.
@kanguesso looool thats hilarious. the reason why people say rickson is the best is because high level dudes that are multiple time world champions like andre galvao, rafeal mendes, roger gracie, leo viera rolled with him recently.....like couple of years ago and they say he is head and shoulders above them technically. im not saying rickson will beat garcia however, im just saying why people say rickson is god
i think u didnt understand. when he was fighting hu beat all of the best fighters in the world at that time... u cant compare different fighters from differents times ,,, BUT he s the best and thats nothing you can say that will change that .not to me but to the world.
@poganla123 I would imagine they'd say that, after all Rickson is part of a family that introduced BJJ to the rest of the world so there is really no surprise there.
was no.he is and will always be the best.and he did fought with all the best fighters in his time. he just beat the best in each martial art.go do some research
I bet it was fun to come over here with such proven ability and knowledge to play with a country that has let their ground fighting fall so far behind. Probably felt like playing with children, its fun to watch. Things have changed a whole lot thanks to the gracies.
what you people that are saying jiu jitsu has evolved need to realize is that people evolve with jiu jitsu. rickson still teaches and train jiu jitsu which means he is evolving with jiu jitsu. rickson is killing this dudes no-gi and he is going about 30% and i bet there were no no-gi tournaments this early days
@gustavodovabo aff... vc nem luta jiu jitsu ooow brother... se vc n conhece a arte pq critica? pq n tenta conhecer ela primeiro? dpois vc critica... bellê? Aikido..... coheço mta gente q treina Aikido, e nenhuma delas é tão arrogante qto vc... ¬¬'
@TENNSUMITSUMA The one loss to Tripp was a result of a throw, not a tap-out submission, decision or any 'loss'. The 400 wins were not sparring, but tournament wins. As a Black Belt, other than the Tripp loss, Rickson has never been defeated or submitted.
They were not the best in the world they were all one dimensional fighters whom posed no real threat.There were a lot of good fighters in Brazil at the time.Marco Ruas was around then.
cara é foda muita gente crítica os gracie e esquecem o q que os kras realmente fizeram pelo esporte e outro VC só crítica quem ta acima de VC nunca vi pessoas criticarem que está por baixo.
The man is like a myth in jiu jitsu and his history. Let's not discuss that. Myths are nice.. Another, and more important, thing is; what's up with the hair. In my book, a myth don't wear a ponytail.
He seemed to have more trouble with the wrestlers than the JJ black belts... As a whole, with all the praise this guy gets I was expecting something more impressive.
piercedbydave Thanks for the info, but no actually wrestling is just about the only thing I'm missing lol I have pretty intimidating striking and good off my back, but you can pretty much throw me on the ground any time XD