Ride by FEEL: the most important factor for Road Bikes? 

Federico and Durianrider collaboration, I await with bated breath....😉

Hats off to the guy who's had his bike 8 years, i'd like more people to keep their bike that long.

I actively ride both disc and rim every other day. I love both. The latest version of rim brakes accommodates 23c - 28c tyres. I just wished there would be a next generation of rim brakes where it caters 28c - 32c tyres. I mean solid performing brakes from Dura Ace or something. -Not those V-brakes or cantilevers that never worked!

You, Jesse and Harley are on the same wavelength.

Great video! For me, the feel is everything. I am fortunate to embrace cycling at an age that takes out any competitive aspirations out of the picture.. so I am not bothered with “marginal this and that”. I do have a Giant defy 4 allux I bought in 2016, sora group, over time as stuff needed replacement I upgraded it to 105 r7000’s, fulcrum racing zeros, tpu tubes and it is now a sub 7kg rim brake bike. I love it! External cables, dead easy to work on too. Now before upgrading it, did the mistake of buying a ribble aero this and that, disc brakes and all the faf. Sold it in no time. Way more fun on the defy! So yeah, whilst average speeds on the defy are lower than ribble or even my cube e-bike, I feel like Pantone up a climb! I feel fast, I feel alive. And that’s all that matters to me! 😅 As for the carbon.. not a fan of it.. steel or allux for me😅

5:04 Funny enough, I actually remember watching this guy's videos (I think he lived in Hawaii?) in 2020, when I was looking to buy my first proper road bike. I ended up getting a disc brake 105 Ultimate anyway, so I guess he didn't convince me 😅

Nice pet shop boys reference slipped in there 😉

Feeling is emotion, and emotion is also placebo, and that itself is the most expensive upgrade. That’s why the main goal of industry marketing is to switch off critical thinking and everything else leaving just feelings and emotions.

Rim brakes are beautiful and light. The problem is that if you're a climber, descending is hell. You really need perfect weather conditions to feel safe. I ended up switching my beautiful SL6 rim brakes for an aethos. I was always scared to go out with my rim brakes when the weather was uncertain. Cheers from Switzerland!

Yep feel is important to me. I got my current Orbea Orca from Cycle Exchange, and it was great that I could ride it before I bought it. Great video and effort. Glad i didn’t need to try to keep up at 50kph 😅

Hi Federico, I'm so glad your video has caught on (I'm from Sydney and a Nero show regular). I think each to their own, however your ride on feel video was very refreshing vs so many bike "reviews" that are basically a read of a spec sheet with with some B roll for good measure. Keep up the great work with your channel. I look forward to the feeling of every weekend ride I can get on my Colnago C50.

Good video 👍 I enjoy your honest opinions. Keep up the great content

Posers are essential to the bike ecosystem, where else are we going to find fancy used bikes. For a start it depends on so many things. Just because they poser bike may be a bit lighter won’t necessarily make them faster. At the end of the day it’s the one pushing the pedals that makes the difference .

Yo! Sweet video as always! I am literally living that "example of Ferrari you speak of". With my Colnago C40! I have her kitted out with mechanical Campy 11 speed, with aero handlebar, wheels, modern tires, etc. On paper, she is less stiff and slightly less aero. The tubing however is very petite compared to modern frames. I recently was in my local training crit that I have been doing for 10 years and got the KOM... again. This time, witha record average of 28.8mph for 34 miles! The C40 definitely has this new concept manufacturers are addressing... compliance.

The big problem with newer bikes are all the custom parts that will only fit on that specific bike. If I buy a new Endurace I can’t swap out the stem. When I’m in shape I use a 120mm stem and not the standard 100 mm.

i owned an aeroad cf slx and at the same time an ultimate cf slx(both disc) the aeroad was consequent between 1 and 2km/h average faster then the ultimate for the same power, even on shallow climbs, so after a while i only did ride the ultimate when i went on holidays in the big mountains. at this moment i own a sl7 and a sl8, but the difference between them is really minimal exept the weight(the sl7 is 7.2kg complete and the sl8 is 6.7kg complete) and i really both love them. keep up the good work greetings from belgium

Nice video as usual, so many cyclists around! Waiting for the bike delivery and curious to compare feelings 👌 According to many other people the new bike feels awesome and super fast 😅

Ride by feel → precisely. 8:32 : speaking about aesthetic of modern bike: I somehow fancy the exposed cables alla Specialized Æthos, the older Giant TCR, your Canyon Ultimate → it’s the ‘Sprezzatura’ of stylish cycling 😉

Well done video! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

I got a new bike in 2022 from Simga sports a green Bianchi with dise brakes not d12 it’s all I need good frame great make love it, the only upgrade I have done is new Vel wheels all good… love your RU-vid channel….🙏🏿

Looking fit Frederico. I got 2015 Tarmac, head alloy wheels and DT swiss hubs, 105 groupo. bike rides like it's on rails and so nimble, built for speed. Niboli Bike. lol

👍Yes the ultimate is fun with hills and sharp turns going up and down in speed and it just follow you there and the aeroad a highspeed killertrain

I have a Pinarello Prince SL from 2005 or so. Onda stays and fork. I love how it feels. (edit: I think a big part is the 10--speed Campy record, every shift is pure joy).

Another great video ❤❤ For me it’s the feel.😊

I make my decisions based on the frames geometry if geometry is correct for my riding style nothing else maybe weight and of course looks

I believe thta handling, and comfort is the most important. My TIME 2023 frameset weight is 1kg (plus fork), but handling and feel of the ride is exceptional. Thanks to the quality, technology and materials used. If frame is lighter by 200g it makes no difference, but if you lose some body weight, or take less gadgets it would be the real gain.

I got the Ultimate slx 9 di 2 and used it on Gran Canaria for 2 weeks this winter but last week I also purchased an outlet Aeroad CFR with the now old etap axe and what difference do I feel on these 2 bikes. After having been riding 2 days on the abroad the ultimate feels like Porsche sportswear and is absolute to me the one I will choose for climbing but the disc brakes are not nessescary here in Denmark but I liked them very much on Gran Canaria and feel very secure. The Aeroad feels like a big AMG Benz - you will get surprised how fast you go and for me it will be the choice for the flats. I added ceramic coate bearings on drivetrain and pulleys and not sure how much I gain but the feeling of it encourages me to go faster just for the fun of it. Friday it was quit windy when I went on the abroad but surprisingly the almost 1700 gramm DTswiss 62 mm performed very well they were like not affected by the wind. I never tried such a deep rim height and reflecting if there is a sweetspotweight for an aerowheel. You can get the Arthech 6 from Scope and save 450 gramm weight but in the windconditions I rided the other day would they have just as well as the more heavy DTswiss that came with the bike. I will definitely bring the Ultimate to Gran Canaria next winter and use it for my hilly trips in Denmark and the Aeroad for the flats.

When I bought a disc brake bike in 2020, I was a little disappointed by the ride feel - but I’ve narrowed most of the difference down to OEM wheels. A nice set of Mavic carbon wheels and the bike was transformed.

Great video there’s far too much marketing hype & to be honest I’m fed up with it all. Nowadays you can’t even get a good test ride out of a store to make a decision on which bike to purchase. It’s very important about the feeling as you say keep up the good work Fede 👍🏽

I only ride on feel.. maybe I’m not getting most out of my abilities, but I’m getting the most out of my personal experience. I’ve ridden and owned many different bikes but for me, I love a "superbike" nothings feels better than a stiff bike!

I would say the feel is important to me but not in the way you've described. I'm not concerned so much about the bike's snappiness or responsiveness on climbs or sprints. But I want to feel fast and comfortable, 'effortlessly' smashing kilometres, enjoying views and the feel of speed. It is very hard to predict beforehand how I will feel with a new bike, though. Especially when this is at the same time a new type of bike. I switched last summer from an old mtb-styled touring bike to a gravel bike. Aside from limitations implied on me by my budget, this was a highly blind purchase. Still, when one finds by try-and-error the right bike for him or herself, then sticking to numbers (frame's geometry) when buying a new bike of the same type may be the way to go.

When I bought a new bike a couple of years back, I whittled the choice down to a Scott and a Cannondale. Scott let me try the bike for a week, Cannondale didn't let me have any trial at all. Guess which bike I bought?

I feel you should keep the rim brakes because they look cool!

Feel...and pleasure are the most important things 🤌

"Feel" absolutely!! So-called "facts" are _not_ enough. I don't give a *bleep about being faster than anyone else. I ride on my own for general fitness & entertainment.

Good video mate 👍

Awesome you were featured on Chris's channel wow.. stick with the bike you like not what the media and peer pressure tell you you need buddy.. I had carbon bikes with disc etc and went back to steel framed bikes, Campy rim brake and mechanical love them. I do still own a disc bike for winter which is titanium and that's great to but carbon just doesn't do it for me but that's just what I like and that's ok :) Pete

I have a canyon ultimate witb Sram axs but recently i bought a cannondale super 6 hi mod 2012. Rim brakes and mechanical sram red. Now i am selling off my canyon.

I think on a none pro level this also applies to your own performance metrics. Initially I was too focused on average speed, bpm, power, and so on. It kind of ruined the experience of riding my roadbike for me. Once I stepped down on the numbers and also started to ride by feeling while listening to my body I found it much more enjoyable. Improvement then came naturally.

If you don’t like it you won’t ride it as much. If you find a bike you love you’ll not only ride it more, you’ll never get rid of it! I’ll ride my Scultura till I die!

Imagine this topic talking about cars, no one buys a car just by looking at the data provided by the manufacturer. You have to test drive the car and picture yourself driving the car for years to come and how does that feel. All new bikes are stiffer and faster according to the brands but theyre the oned trying to make us buy new bikes. So have youre own opinion and dont let the media tell you wich bike you need. Great video!

I have a rim brake aero bike, I always liked the look of aero bikes think they look wicked. So brought my bike on looks haha But the newer aero bikes do not look half as aggressive as the old rim brake ones. Look at the rim brake venge vias looked crazy good when you had the disk vias it just did not look as good. I like the feel of my bike I don't want it to be comfortable I like feeling the road buzz, makes it feel like your flying along, I don't want to "float" across the road. Problem is if I did want to go modern and get a bike of similar spec now I would have to spend £5 grand, and proberbly a divorce too...

I love the feel of all four of my road bikes, still have my 2012 Cannondale super 6 which I used in Mallorca last October , but just purchased the latest Canyon Aeroad and the feeling on that is next level. 1st the geometry positions you to be more aero on the bike but surprisingly very comfortable and the 2nd it just wants to go faster, holds the speed better and accelerates with ease. But discussing feel or performance, there is a 3rd and that is looks?

Xcr Columbus Italian steel. Nothing compares. Although I haven't ridden TI.

Never have An power meter and never will 😃 RIM BRAKE CARTEL!!! 👊🏻much love from Montreal♥️

If the bike fits properly and you are fit and fresh, all bikes feel great (especially if you are riding stronger than the people around you). I have rim, disc, steel, carbon road bikes all with different tyres etc. it’s 99% the rider determines how well the bike rides.

While I'm still fast I'll always pick performance, providing the bike doesn't ride like a horse cart!

I find more joy riding my 19 year old Trek with 23mm tyres and rims brakes as I do my modern bike with 32mm tyres, aero this and that, DI2 and disc brakes. Given the choice I'd choose it every time. Why?... Because It feels real. It's fun, fast, nimble and comfortable. The feel of a well tuned mechanical bike is satisfying too. If the bike feels good then so do I. That's all that matters right?!

I think this video is well made and has some great opinions, which I believe everything boils down to one of them from the guy you like, saying: "I just wanna ride fast uphills, I don't want to go fast downhills or flats" In my case, I'll always push towards the biggest chainring and aero everything because I don't care about riding fast uphills, this doesn't bring me any joy, I just wanna ride fast on flats and downhills. You on the other hand if you like the kick/response that you get from the rim brake when you sprint and overall being agile I believe is it the case you like more flats and downhills?

Cool

Rhe feel is incredible I've had over 30 road bikes 18 of them pinarello and by feel this prince is in the top 3

While feel is important to me - I'm with Jesse on this topic. I never actually experienced the 'feel' of my bike until I'd paid for and received it! I don't think 'feel' is a factor that determines a purchase, since it can only be experienced after the money has been spent. There are some privileged few who get a test ride or review bike, but the rest of us have to go on recommendations, looks, budget and performance figures from the manufacturer's website. After that, we get used to the bike and just tell ourselves it feels great, because who wants to spend all that money and live with regret because their bike doesn't feel great?!

Next fashion: shorter cranks, narrow flared handlebars, road TT helmets, many things left to try

There's only one thing the bike upgrade, ultegra DI2 12 speed. You've got the winspace rims.

Certainly the same for me, all about the FEEL. Having owned 50 or so bikes over the decade, most young bloods would be surprised to hear I found that FEEL on an aluminium frame. Shocking, right?

My last bike purchase was like this, I had an alum 06 rim bike Felt and was ready for a new bike, first I wanted carbon and hydro disc then I found the least expensive bikes that fit that and ended up with the Canyon Endurace mainly because it checked the boxes for the price and not because any performance numbers, I also like being the outsider because I don't like the elitism in the road bike world and Canyons kinda get the elite riders mad because they think you are destroying the bike industry.😂 In the end I love my Canyon and to be honest any new carbon bike would feel better than my old bike so my new bike felt awesome but I haven't ridden any other road bike in the modern era so what would I know except the #1 performance upgrade you can do is fitness, everything else is marginal. I can hold my own against the other local riders on strava with bikes 4x's the cost of my bike and when they see that it makes their blood boil. Aloha 🤙

Feel is the most important feature

Feel!

Have you tried to run 28mm tyres? It would suit you very well...

First the Nero Show, what’s next 🤔 GCN or maybe Eurosport! I sense a career change - Federico Campella -Cycling Pundit 😂

I never got to ride my bikes before buying so it’s always based on numbers and what reviewers have felt. It would be nice if you could try all bikes before buying but that’s just not the industry norm

Btw, Getis of Love the Climb’s videos were top notch! Conspiracy Theory here: he was threatened by big corp to take the video down

I’ll take the 250GT. And vintage Alfa 33 Stradale

Feel🤔 I have just upgraded from a tarmac Sworks sl3, (rim brake) that I have owned for ten years To a tarmac sl7 (disc brake di2). The biggest difference between the two bikes is the tyre width & the disc brake. The 28mm tyre on a 21 mm wheel has a massive difference in comfort Which means you come back from longer rides feeling much fresher & less beaten up, The disc brake has a 40% improvement in braking in my opinion, Less fatigue in the hands on longer down hills, That being said all of theses new bikes Are so ridiculously overpriced the bike industry is literally gonna to kill itself. My first bike was a Planet X pro carbon rim brake bike with sram red (7.2kg) the best value for money bike you can buy if your new to road cycling.

Any siroko discount code ??? I’m after some bib shorts 😘

English version of sunny LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! 🤣😂 🤣😂 🤣😂 🤣😂 🤣😂

sub 7kg disc is not that uncommon anymore these days. loads of options that get you there easily if you are rdy to put down 10k+

To be honest, can anyone really tell differences between different bikes? If it were possible to ride blindfolded, how many could tell which was which? I think marketing counts for 99% of influence. Then factor in for a lot of peope it's very difficult to actually test ride bikes before purchase - my Canyon as an example was bought online as all were back in the day - so for most I think it's specification and weight and of course cost which make decisions.

Il feeling è tutto in bici,ma dalle mie parti se ne parli l'unica risposta che ricevi è "gamba ci vuole"...😊

whatever happened to Love to Climb? Too bad all his videos are gone.

Newer bikes are more clinical and have less soul, tiny bit faster though.

Great video Fed..but it’s pathetic or just funny that everyone talks about feeling but none about steel..which is real

If it's not about the feel then you are falling into the marketing tactics! These companies selling bikes are here for one thing - your hard earned cash

Litwai was a good channel. He had a passion for cycling then seem to lose it.

If you didn't go by feel there would be no people left hahaha

Nobody can make money out of your riding on "feel"

In agreement with you Fred that you definitely gotta put your bum on the seat & test ride whichever bike that yiur going to buy either brand new or secondhand..,me personally being 57 yrs old & been riding bike's since before the dinosaurs i find that i gotta be absolutely dialled into a bike to make sure everything suits me..., i have riden many bikes over the yrs & during that time i have found everything that i like don't like from loads of bikes that i have owned throughout the years that's why for the past almost 6 yrs i have had my now bike which i built myself as its everything i want in a bike which consist of a full Merida 4000 disc frame set in size 56cm that i was lucky to get with it a 440mm CW carbon handlebars, a 380mm carbon aero seat post which i added a Specialized S-Works Romin II 3D carbon printed saddle, it's all internal cables & my groupset was the Ultegra 8020 hydraulic 11 speed mechanical groupset of choice which i recently upgraded to 105 Di2 12 speed full groupset..,kept my 50mm Prime Black Edition carbon rims thats layered in with Tpu tubes all wrapped up in 28mm Continental Gp5000s black chilli compound clincher race tires & last but not least PD-R8000 peddles..., Fred, my bike is a gem & it's took me years to figger out exactly my preference in bike comfort, feel etc & out of all the bike that I have owned, tested or otherwise hand on heart the above mentioned bike that i now own will be with me till i die give or take the added new "fandangled" upgrade that will be a must but to answer your question brother the feel of whatever bike a individual is gonna go for it's imperative that comfort should be a main factor as upgrades etc is secondary..., as always Fred excellent video in deep dive information for all us mare mortals brother & as for content always a gold star✨...,never stop what your doing Fred as its always a pleasure to view & follow you in your continued bike endeavours...,top fella 👊🏾👍🏾

what a day that was 🎉 another great video Fede 🤌🏼