Rings Of Power : Breaking Down This Abysmal FAILURE 

Same here.

me too

It's ike a car crash, you just can't look away.

Same here.

Yeah why not enjoying both? That's a new phenomena :)

Lol

Sauron will return then The Fellowship will destroy him, oh wait that's already happened

@@Tenchi707 noooo in this universe he is a bêta male and also an antihero who is saved by Guyladriel and while having killed millions of people will be redeemed and marry the now queen Guyladriel and they rule together as an entity named Saurondriel.

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It’ll make the show interesting.

Aren't elves supposed to be attractive? Because the only attractive ones were Gladriel's brother and the Black one.

Celebrimbor looks like a tall hobbit.

@@yeahgirl11 Her brother was the creepiest dude ever.

what about the apparant genocide of non whites before `the hobbit`

@@yeahgirl11 "and the black one" 💀💀💀

The fact that they downgraded the lvl 999999 ancient elf queen sorceress capable of making anyone quiver with one glance to a generic lvl 1 sword wielding mary sue with anger issues and thought it was an upgrade still baffles me

Their only way to make a girl character look strong is to surround them by men who are mean to them, bumbling idiots and by having them do ridiculously unrealistic physical feats

It's easy you just write a hero like normal and make their sex not a factor other then the surprise at the end that they have feelings and are a woman.

Galadriel in LOTR was powerful, but in a soft power way. Soft power isn't weak, it just means power that doesn't involve beating someone to a pulp. That's what makes soft power so awesome, you don't expect this relatively harmless looking person to be so dangerous. This fair looking, soft spoken queen was the only one who could drive Sauron from Dol Guldur and banish him to Mordor. That's impressive, far more than beating up 5 men in amour who towered over her, or dispatching an ice troll without even breaking a sweat. The Galadriel in ROP is not at all the same character in LOTR. But, Amazon doesn't care, they have a message to send and apparently didn't think writers were a type of employee to spend any money on.

It's funny, she is a ring bearer herself in LOTR, and definitely quietly powerful, enough that her presence overshadows her husband. He still supports and stands with her. He is comfortable enough to know himself and be comfortable with his wife's overwhelming presence.

It was worse than that. She beat up four armed guards, climbed up a tower and jumped through a window without ever breaking a sweat, messing up her clothes, or messing up her hair. Not a drop of sweat. Not a bit of dirt. It’s just ridiculous.

It was accurate according to LOTR. Galadriel is supposed to be extraordinarily talented in CQC.

Yeah especially when all Númenóreans are like over 6.4 feet and longer, and the best soldiers of middle earth at this point.

Shes a really girly boss girl woman, of course she can do everything and anything better (especially better than men!) so it makes total sense.

Even better, i like how she breaks out of her "jail room" and ends up being escorted, BY A MEMBER OF THE PALACE GUARD, to a naughty field trip to a library far away from where she's supposed to be imprisoned.

You forgot another great one. "You have not seen what I have seen." "I have, dude" "YOU HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT I HAVE SEEN."

@@Alex_Fahey lol I'm so glad I'm not dumb enough to watch this show.

Yeah, and then the hobbits gather for this ritual in which they remember those they left behind BY LAUGHING AT HOW THEY DIED 🐝

"Hearts bigger than their feet".

@@Alex_Fahey "no u"

technially it is the same thing as death cause he isnt allowed to come back to middle earth afterwords and valinor is basically 'elf heaven".

@@housewilma4904 And if Galadriel had just stayed on the darn boat, she could've gone to see him!

Then in the show, Galadriel should have taken her chance to go back and see him. In the book, Galadriel never went on a rampage of revenge in the first place, even when he was killed.

The writers and producers had no idea about Tolkien's writings and what characters like Galadriel represent. They only wanted to publish their WOKE agenda. Had they focus on Tolkien, they would have had a success larger than GOT, but they decided to go WOKE, thus they went broke, investing almost a billion on rubbish. That the show failed is not surprise. There are loads of strong women in Tolkien and they simply decided to overlook them: Melian, Arwen, Luthien, Idril Celebrindal, etc. The writers could have narrated their stories and sell, through those stories, their point of view that women are empowered. But no. They had to do it their way. I'm glad they failed.

Exactly. Think of all the money that you could launder by overpricing every little thing that is used for the show.

This is the most embarrassing part of it...

I just checked: Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy had a total budget of 300 millions. It got back 3 billions. Think about it.

it does make you wonder if this is a money laundering thing. I mean, at that budget, any company would get the best writers and insist on getting Peter Jackson. Only then would you take a risk on casting choices. Yet somehow Amazon is risking 1B on newbie writers, directors and cast. They're taking too many risks with it. Who would do that to their own business?

All the money's been pissed away.

Kinda screams "money laundering scheme", don't it? You know, like how Netflix pays astronomical amounts of money to ex politicians (or gives them places on their board) and then they don't produce any content.

I’m coming to the conclusion that this was done on purpose. They payed a billion dollars to shit on Tolkiens grave. The first episode even aired on the day Tolkien died.

@@Halfwit_The_Brave Maybe Mr Jeff Amazon Man had a bad experience selling LOTR books and this is his ultimate revenge.

The execs knew they could throw a few tokens into the show and smear all the detractors as racist. That's only gonna fly for so far though.

@@Halfwit_The_Brave No mate - there is no conspiracy behind, they just want to make money - if there is no success it will be cancelled

I would say that the whole thing needs to be rewritten for it to make sense, instead of having her send off to Valinor, basically have Gil-galad send her as emissary to Numenor in the first place! The lore about the passage to Valinor also would remain intact (because in Second Age there was no magic portal thing that led to it, it was a physical location one just could sail to, other land) and then they still could have the whole thing with sea serpent and all that, elven ships can wreck and drown too say in a storm, because this ship wouldn't be the special one build for Valinor voyage, also if this was closer to shores of Middle-earth it would make more sense to see that raft: "The year was waning to autumn, and before long great winds were to be expected, hostile and dangerous, even to Elven-ships while they were still near to Middle-earth. But so great was the grief of Amroth that nonetheless they stayed their going for many weeks; and they lived on the ship, for their houses on the shore were stripped and empty. Then in the autumn there came a great night of storm, one of fiercest in the annals of Gondor. It came from the cold Northern Waste, and roared down through Eriador into the lands of Gondor, doing great havoc; the White Mountains were no shield against it, and many of the ships of Men were swept out into the Bay of Belfalas and lost. The light Elven-ship was torn from its moorings and driven into the wild waters towards the coasts of Umbar. No tidings of it were ever heard in Middle-earth; but the Elven-ships made for this journey did not founder, and doubtless it left the Circles of the World and came at last to Eressëa. But it did not bring Amroth thither. The storm fell upon the coasts of Gondor just as dawn was peering through the flying clouds; but when Amroth woke the ship was already far from land. Crying aloud in despair Nimrodel! he leapt into the sea and swam towards the fading shore. The mariners with their Elvish sight for a long time could see him battling with the waves, until the rising sun gleamed through the clouds and far off lit his bright hair like a spark of gold. No eyes of Elves or Men ever saw him again in Middle-earth." Amroth drowning is the most famous case. The Numenoreans and their relation with elves is much more complex and requires a wholly different set up to explain to casual audience! It's all aboute envy, fear of death and desire of deathlessness, the Numenoreans at first were great friends with Elves, but started to resent them due to their immortality and being jelous of it, then also comes the religious aspect, the Valar and so on. A lot of lore that simply got squandered in the show for the modernized take of "elf taking our trades" and other such bullshit!

They should've put you on the writing staff. As is, I don't think that's the plot. 😆

Wow, that would actually fix a lot of stuff. Not the boringness tho, so there's still that unfortunate detail.

Yes. You nailed it. Galadevil is Sauron. What a relief that someone finally clarified this.

@@owentduggan8966 The other dude was sauron, wasnt he? It also explains nothing, Galadriel acts the way she acts because her performance is really poor and the writers being stupid. Dont forget that Galadriel is a girly boss girl woman that can beat everyone and do everything better than every one (especially men) cuz shes a really bossy girl boss.

you only need GuyLadriel! nuff said

It's a credible theory, too, given that it appears these writers have been so since literally yesterday.

*I distinctly recall going through a phase where every line I committed to the page was pure gold* Can you give us an example of this earlier writing of yours? Maybe, like a paragraph?

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@@jonronnquist Wow

@@jonronnquist it kinda read like satyre so you can pretend that's what you wanted to do all along and call it a day

"you have not seen what i have seen" "i have seen my share" "you have not seen what i have seen" truly masterful dialogue. and the delivery, *chefs kiss" 'tis a triumph.

The show is woke but not in the in your face kind of way. It's angry girl boss woke the biggest issue is its boring and pointless and completely disconnected from the source. Makes me question if they were going to spend a billion dollars to make a supernatural tier show why not just make a generic middle earth so they could make whatever they wanted far cheaper.

Not gonna lie I was never going to touch the show but watched it in bed one night and passed out, Im a bad sleeper to and Ive been using it from time to time to literally fall asleep.

I felt like i was watching days of our lives when trying to get through the first 4 episodes

@@danf7411 not in your face? It could hardly be more in your face: force diversity for casting & TONS of moderns day allegory in the writing.

and it was literally there whole stragy in the oringal flims like at HELMS deep were THEY ATTACKED AT NIGHT its not like the orks DONT realize they can do this LOTR orks are actually smarter then 40k orks they can learn tactics and even how to lead troops.

@@housewilma4904 yet 40k orcs travel in spaceships. one would think simple logic would have a say when tons of money is involved in creating something but I guess not

@@hotdog9262 I mean, let's be completely fair, 95% of wh40k ork tech is stolen and hobbled together from other races and their battle tactics have never been known to extend further than "get more dakka"

@@bigchungus6827 you can`t "will" tech into working. its sloppy design

@@hotdog9262 You're gonna have to expand on what you mean by that.

I heard 4 of my coworkers talking about how amazing Morbius is today...

For me, this is vengeance for the way they massacred Wheel of Time. We were too weak to stop them, but maybe Lord of the Rings will slay the demon where we could not.

@@JohnBender1313 Oh sweet Jesus You poor man... all I can offer are my condolences T_T

Haha I was going back and forth on if I wanted to not watch it by protest. Instead I saw the first 15 minutes and now I just want to stop naturally

No, I want them to succeed by making good TV shows and doing Tolkien justice. Second to that, I want them to fail for making shit.

The hero we need, not the hero we deserve..... Adam is the hero we deserve but don't need lol. I'll leave it up to S Class and A Team to decide who that's a dig at.

@@Zenweaponry Me 5 seconds ago: “ok only one reply, probably nobodies taken the dark knight quote yet”

A wizard is never late…

Yeah this did and not his video about election fraud he promised Sargon

As an avid fan of older, dominant women. He knew he needed to come when he saw she hulk twerking.

That’s Middle Earth, baby!

I mean, LOTR is full of errors but it's so good you don't notice them.

Well Galadriel is thousands of years old and her magic is very powerful, who said she didn't do that kind of transmutation, if only they showed that in the series....

​@@Mockthenerd i guess thats why it won 17 oscar awards?

@@Mockthenerd I guess no other movie / series in history is so overanalysed in every shot like this one. And yes LOTR is my fav movi(es) of all times, but had a lot logic errors, rubber masks you name it..

"...so gay and sad." You do realize you just gave Amazon an excuse to make two gay elves in season 2, right? They'll point to that line and say, "See! It's right there! We just modernized it. And everyone who disagrees is a homophobe.

@Olof Thorn I think you and I are talking about different people.

The King Arthur and the Knights of Justice cartoon series made in the early 90s for probably something like $250k was better than this. You know, the one where a high school football team is magically transported to the past to tackle Morgana's forces.

I absolutely loved that show as a kid and even today it's writing is far superior to this crap Amazon show. More true to the lore it is derived from as well which should tell you everything you need to know.

Not only is it a melting pot of races, but also of ideas. The outcome being very ugly and diseased.

After picking apart the plotholes its a steaming pile. I proudly own thenpeter jackson sextilogy but it does inspire me to get the simarillion. A great book is better than a movie written by morons.

It's like a sub section of pardoy movies by the Wayans Brothers but directed by spike lee

Tbh, it's not more stupid than Legolas killing an Oliphant and the whole crew on it and surfing off its trunk.

@@jeremytassin7978 It is actually more stupid

Honestly, the actual book Bored of the Rings (a parody published a few decades back) was at least more entertaining than this.

dude the slow motion horse scene on the beach felt like a goddamn dior perfume advertisement lmao

But she did push them kinda hard.

I'm such a simp for his voice lol

Amazon execs: "money good"

@@takerdust also Amazon: "Let's lose more than a billion dollars in making & defending this."

@@TheRibbonRed it's a write off for them. They'll find enough rubes worldwide to watch this to break even.

@@takerdust sadly yeah. They're using the same write-off tactic as their preferred politicians, so no wonder they won't ever get trouble from this. In a perfect world, too many failures would warrant bankruptcy and/or an investigation.

No no. You don't understand the absurdity of having black elves (I don't think dark/moon elves exist within the Tolkien universe so there isn't even a historical nor geographical reason for there to be any). But, when you race-swap an elf, in the context of a fantasy world, that would typically mean turning them into a human, dwarf, hobbit, or something that's not an elf. Skin colour does not define your race, your race defines your skin tones. Elves can't be black because in Tolkien's universe there is only one ethnic group of elves. Humans can range from white to black because there can be multiple ethnic groups of humans and because they live everywhere. Dwarves really got no reason to be dark-skinned considering that they live mainly in underground cities. I guess hobbits can also have multiple ranges of skin tone as well, but considering that most hobbits live in pretty mild and near perfect climates....probably not. My point is that only humans have a need to develop different colored skin-tones, the other races don't because they are all clump up together within the same climate range. An while I'm at it.....where are my fucking black orcs? If you're gonna make black elves, black hobbits, and black dwarves, where are the black orcs? I sense some subtle racism here.

If the writer is woke then it's a key reason. You need to understand human nature to write good characters, but woke people have a twisted view of human nature.

Nah man, Lordy of dem Rangz!!!!!!

Free press

If "woke" not anymore what the real meaning is...maybe yes - now its also used for "stupid".

@@jimkaris648 I'm not trying to argue that RANGZ KANGZ are any good. My point is: be afraid of when wokeists get good at telling stories and when the "woke = broke" stops being true.

Yeah, I'm struggling to believe writers this lacking in self awareness would produce a decent character arc even if someone sat them down and told them what to write. Just far too implausible to me.

Sauron was a Maiar of Aule which is Valar that is basically a smiting god. That might be a reason for his interest in smiting.

Sauron never actually repented, you're probably referring to Morgoth's imprisonment by the Valar, wherein Morgoth also never repented, only pretended to (and thereby ruined the Two Trees and killed Finwe, King of the Noldor). And yes, Sauron was one of the Maiar under Aule, the Valar of Smithing and Crafts, and the father of the Dwarves, making Sauron's interest in smithing quite obvious.

No it's a mystery box show that wants to hint its Sauron. I wish it was that deep, but it's not. This show is trash stop trying to defend it

@@skyhigh4623 Im not defending it I think the show is trash.

@@miniondaechir All true, but he's probably in the amulet which ended up with a smith through affinity, just like the one ring has a will of its own and tries to end up with those who lust for power.

People will gladly watch panties being sniffed and a dude cooming to them over this, despite being the intended audience of Rangz. Which is an endorsement of current year.

same here my man ;) and could not enjoy more to see the behemoth of a company (which should never be allowed to be named by a river) to fail so miserably... somehow exploiting thousands and thousands of workers lifes and making all that blood money can not buy you a way into cultural relevance. fuck the Jeff Crazos, his lifestyle and his whole goddamn agenda. its awe inspiring to see them burn and fail, the more the merrier. p.s.:sorry for being a bit over the top, kinda like the scale of exploitation, which gets you to become a multi billionaire.

not that shadow of war didnt already ruin him still so salty about that ending "nope sorry you cant fight sauron cause your a dirty human thus will be evil so elf mary sue gets the new ring instead and is perfect". THE GAMES ALREADY WERNT CANON THEY DIDNT NEED TO F TALION AND CELEBRIMBOR OVER RIGHT AT THE END JUST TO FIT CANON.

Only passing the test with the one ring would grant her acces to Valinor again. She would become the Dark Queen of Middle Earth or remain Galadriel go into the West to see her family again.

Tolkien, not Tolkeen.

I just love applying controversial modern day American politics into a narrative that was written with literally none of it in mind! /s

Tolkien did not hate allegories - although there is a quote for it - but he used it all the time. What is 100% woke mate? Woke is anti-rassist and that's a very good think and message.

What? Elves aren't trying to enter Numenor, one elf is trying to re-built the alliance between men and elves to defend middle earth. You're going insane with this stuff

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Anti-rassist???

That would be great before they can destroy another beloved story. It'll never happen a $bn is nothing to them.

Doesn't matter, I doubt the writers have read Silmarillion. It is bad (non)fanfiction.

He was busy getting his hair done like elrond and celebrimbor

She's an independent woman, alright she's strong, she's a QUEEN!

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I disagree; that is their general demeanor. Now, they aren't ALWAYS that way, no, but that's precisely the problem; when they got riled, they fell from grace. Although, to be clear, being "stoic" is not the opposite of "deeply feeling", it just means being in control of your emotions, as you would be after centuries or millennia of tutelage and training. If them getting angry and pissy and lashing out was commonplace, the Kinslaying would have been a normal event.

Ikr if it's pretty they're happy. This shit started with avatar and it never went away.

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Rey only knows

@@kk-wh3hb lol perfect reply.

Why do you look at Supermans balls when he wears his suit? Take a second, maybe pull up a clip.... yea that's right, because you can 🤣

@@republicofcasuals No, I look at his balls not because I can, but because he's played by Henry Cavill lol

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Peter Jackson had the skin colors right.

Yes, and the other groups are the Stoors and Fallohides. They're all Hobbits. A bit like English, French, Chinese, Americans, Inuits etc are all humans.

Any Tolkien fan is aware of this thanks. They lived in THE THIRD AGE

This is from the 20(?) pages of appendicitises, isn't it? So it's not even in "The Silmarillion," so just the parts that J.R.R. Tolkien rejected from the final books. SO this is based on the parts that Tolkien rejected for the final book. At least that's what I have heard and I am in no way a Tolkien fan, I heard it via the 'Chans.

Like bathing.

These Hobbits are Falliwhides in all but name 🤬

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To be fair, it forced him to make one and for CT to edit it.

Wokism stems from liberal identity politics. It's got jack and shit to do with socialism.

Lol, socialists have always favored big business-you will know them by their fruits. Take a look at their history, it's all about mass-centralization, i.e. public monopolies. State-run business is socialism; and the reason many of these current monopolies exist is because they're kept afloat by government subsidies, they don't play by the same rules as totally privatized businesses do in a _truly_ free market. They aren't allowed to fail. It's easy to compete when you're using the bottomless well of other people's tax dollars and the local mom 'n' pop instead has to operate fairly on the same level ground as every other private company. That's why there are almost never any repercussions.

disney "star wars" is trash

I don’t think it much matters in this series. Galadriel never went to Numenor or met with Tar-Meriel 🤷‍♀️

Have you actually read the books? He's not "badass". If nothing else Elrond is much closer to his portrayal in the books than Jackson's version.

Either way they both belong in the third age thousands of years after these events.

Nope. The ominous dark shading of the weather and space behind his head when he’s getting upset is textbook Gandalf angry behavior.

I agree, Tolkien shouldn't be changed, his ideas come from norse Anglo- Saxon mythologies so why it has to be diverse - no need. Tolkien created the world that doesn't exist - it's arleady diverse - Hobbits, Goblins etc.

I think that's the actual reason behind the entire movement, most people don't realize it though.

*Shit wokeness There's a difference between "Hey women and men should be equal" and "Women are the best they're awesome and always awesome look at this big strong woman doing big woman things and hating men because men are evil" This show is the second option

@@hazeltree7738 But men and women arent equal. They should each do the job the other cant. There are things men are much better at than women and vice versa. The idea that enforced equality removes natural inequality is destroying societies. Natural adaptation did not spare the brain either.

@@hazeltree7738 Ah, the old, make up two of your own definitions and then use the one you like the sound of most in the specific instance. It's an easy life to live for sure. Bless you.

They did that to antagonise the fans, in some pathetic attempt at retaliation, over their unfathomable belief that Tolkien created Orks to represent black people! The problem is, unlike this shows creators, and their sycophant followers, LOTR fans understand that Orks don't represent anything, but Orks! So there can be no offense taken!