Riot MMO: Playable Races & Classes | Asmongold Reacts 

when the first attack was intentional and the second attack was pure coincidence lmao

No, shut up

@@MARTINREN1231 Necrit watches the stream so he knows when he wants to pee

@Rose Amaranth 33:50

@@drewblock1365 that's space balls level of meta

Seems like a decent human being hope he gets popular

@@xc1951 agree

He has hundreds of thousands of subs....I mean I'm sure it helps, but don't act like Asmons attention will somehow change Necrits popularity in a big way.....

My dude literally got an NPC named after him lol

@@Lueko111 we aren’t acting we just wishing him well

That's what I'm thinking

thats really cool

FFXIV does something similar already where each class/job have their guilds placed in certain city states, and it's all very much ingrained in the lore, so Riot absolutely could do the same for this. Hell, even WoW kinda did this back when weapon skills was a thing, where you could only learn certain weapon skills from certain cities. Like if you were Horde, the only place to learn how to use axes was in Orgrimmar.

that sounds sick, and perhaps there's shops or dungeons that give specific armor/weapon sets in those regions

That would be sick asf

noone cares about the lore because league is a competitive pvp game not an rpg or mmo. only greasy sweaty nerds go out of their way to go like 🤓uhmm akshually did you know that the lore is so cool and underrated. ye noone cares, its a pvp game. if you want to get invested into lore there are many other better games out there to sink your time in.

"Ignorance is fatal" - Zed

@@asmith8190 Well-said, these people would play fortnite and try to live in the lore, it's so cringe because there is countless of games with lore, yet these neckbeards play league and try to attach lore to a game like this, it's just weird.

@@benegmond6584 you seem angry about a competitive game like league has a better developed world than your cult game that nobody gives a shit about

Hard to care about the lore of a game when they completely deleted like 5 years of lore. Not saying it was necessarily a bad decision but why invest time into learning the lore of a game when they could just delete it all and start over.

bro im dy ing

Fuckin lol 😆

bro 💀💀💀

Viego got nothin on him, he got morded too

Then he said "MORDEKAISER ES NUMERO UNO!" I couldn't believe what happened! The move was a movie of all time!

I believe classes will be built around the champion types in league of legends. Tank, fighter, mage, support, etc. Maybe you will be able to branch out into something else from the base classes based on your starting region. That would be cool.

@@Eimucho true it will be interesting if the just name the job or class tank and then the specialisation will be available to what tank is

@@reyalfa18 pretty sure she is actually more so forgotten and in history seen as the bad sister while people worship Kayle if anything I doubt she has that much influence because if people are seeking a miracle from her it's most likely for evil intentions

@@Eimucho well there are subclasses in lol aswell

morgana doesnt want to be a god though.

Imagine, Time mages are worse than Blood mages, who are worse than Ice mages but in the same time Ice mages are better than Time mages, etc. That's what riot has to do, but it needs tooooo much work. If they achieve it, they will be "The ALL MMORPG annihilators" not just killers.

Yeah just like how in league you can be a mage tank or a mage assassin for example, just mixing classes together. Like you can pick tank as your main class and then pick up some mage stuff.

@@nickthegreek9781 I like time mage.

​@@thelordofthelostbraincells that's ornn bro, the mage assassin bruiser tank initiator

​@@nickthegreek9781 If they learn from the lessons provided by all their MMO successors....this could be *it*. Gonna quote Kratos though: Keep your expectations low, and you'll never be disappointed.

@@davidnone8951 fr bro. I just couldn’t find interest in the game knowing how the combat is.

@@GhostMan407 but mages obviously still do exist within demacia otherwise mageseekers would need to be a thing. If your next counter would be that the lore wouldn't allow mages to change the Demacian view of magic, I'd say once the game is released, the lore becomes separate from League of Legends as it becomes a living land with people who think for themselves as apposed to the writers having a say in what happens.

@@TheFoolishnoob I'd have to TOTALLY disagree about the separate lore thing, League already has like 4 different cannons with them being Arcane (which is a spinoff of the league lore meaning it's not canon and was adapted to fit a series), LoR (the card game which has some plot holes and weird cards that don't make sense in the canon lore but is in a weird place because it is and also is not canon, basically canon with a grain of salt) and then you have the Official canon with that being the universe lore and etc and then you have skin lines. So with so many stories already going on at once i wouldn't want the writing team and individual writers getting more confused then they've already been in the past. This gives us much better stories and consistent plot's with fewer loose ends and etc. My point is the MMO should definitely be canon, i can imagine the community or fans of league's universe getting upset once they find out none of it essentially matters, It's already happened with arcane.

While that'd be cool, the bigger issue is you want your starting quest to be the same for either race, class or starting towns(Most do 2 of the 3 together). You can't have a unique race quest line that's also unique to the starting town, because that's a ton of work spread out creating dozens of starting quest lines when most developers will be smart and do 3-6.

@@note4note804 could be what sets them out from the rest

@@i.amsway7878 arcane probably will become canon

the worlds first maze if im not mistaken.

Greeks were down bad

The chatters heard the god wanna fuck a girl and assumed it’s Zues immediately lmao

@@mech0p Greek gods are all weird hades is the best of them and he literally kidnapped his wife so that shows you how low the standard is

@@mysterious_truth6907 the best thing about that is, yeah Hades kidnapped his wife but he asked for concent to do so from her father, and Zeus went like "you like her? cool bro take her i don't mind" and then he kidnapped her lol

Just gonna put a flipside idea out there: You pick a race, you pick a class, you get your basic starting area lore, you get your basic "this is what your skill does, now use it on this training dummy", then you get a Player vs. NPC battle, then the world is open to you. I think if they follow the way WoW's world works from this point on would be fine. A bit of travel and you're standing next to your friend. Also, NEVER INTRODUCE FLYING, PLEASE! Having the choice between using your "dash" skill to get from location A to location B or save it to escape from a stealth enemy should be a choice that players are allowed to make. Having a "Recall" option to go back to your starter city is fine, but exploring the world should always start from there. Allowing people to change their set home (such as with Hearthstones in WoW) is also fine as it lets people choose where they want to return to.

@@TaIathar So we both kind off said the same thing. Ofc the world should be open after the intro quest(s), but i like it when the game gives you options of starting places (like ESO does nowadays with the portals). I think this makes it easier for newer players aswell to find each other AND not having to worry what place they start in as it is easy to move to another place. However the place you move to after the beginner class questline should be kind of semi-permanent in early game. Like they should make it so if you start in demacia but you want to quest in noxus, you get the option to "betray" them (to make quest and lore out of it) and cost free travel with some mercenaries or something to the noxus capital. But if you want to go back to demacia or travel elsewhere with large travel services then it will cost a fortune compared to early game economy, so choices of travel matter. You can ofc walk there but seeing how large the map is, have fun walking for hours. Based af. No flying mounts. Recall "hearthstone" allowed on cd. Only means of travel should be ground mounts and travel services like airships, boats, horse carrige or similar. Could even be paying for a mage or hextech engineer to open a portal. And large travel services should be restricted between capitals and be instant. But smaller forms of travel like horse carrige or small boats in lakes should not insta teleport you to your destination so you are able to jump of whenever you want. And it should cost enough money where you actually have to plan out your early game economy. "Should i take the airship, or a horse carrige halfway or should i save up for a mount later and just ride over there?"

Please don't, a lot of players quit MMOs that do that lol

@@andreigelaga4120 So you want every single person to start in Demacia? Do you know how boring it is for everyone to have the same starting story? "I had to go kill 20 boars" "ME TOO!" "then I had to kill 10 big boars" "ME TOO BRO!" like... what? It's so much more interesting when it's "I had to go kill 20 boars" "Bro I had to kill 20 baby dragons." "wait what? you had to kill a dragon?" "yeah a baby one" "did it breathe fire?" "Idk man I killed it too fast ( OR ) yeah man, that shit hurt" "Damn. That's crazy. What'd you do after?" I mean... damn bro. You must really hate sharing stories with your friends if you just want them to say "me too" all the time. If people can't enjoy the game while spending 20 minutes in-game away from each other, they had no hope of continuing the game to begin with.

@@TaIathar you really wrote a whole ass essay lmao, I'm just stating a fact, you can look up the numerous forum posts of people quitting due to being blocked from playing with their friends from the start. I'm a solo player myself, but they're customers too you know.

A good job? I tried to play with my friends and they dropped the game because we all started in separate regions and we couldn't play together until level 20 or so, then they got bored.

@@DarthAlliance If your friends didn't have enough patience to play up to level 15 to play with each other, that sounds like a problem with your friends. Shit dude, they couldn't handle not being able to play together at level 1 so bad that they quit? Idk man, MMOs might not be the type of game for your friend group.

another thing about minotaurs that could sooth some peoples souls: remember when necrit said they have the annoying "sexual dimorphism trope"? it's true, there are female minotaurs that are petite and small, BUT that's just a small minority, there is canon artwork of a female minotaur that is just as big as the males (maybe even bigger), it's just that the one shown in the video is part of a secret cabal that is attempting to control Noxus from the inside, so you could see why she has a lighter build.

That sounds like "If Thrall was a tauren" - definitely still a cool character ^^

Whats crazy about this is absolutely nobody asked at all about the unnecessary backround check.

@@Grenan99 I never thought about Thrall when I was playing him, but you sound 100% right lol. I forgot Thrall's beginning was basically that. I tried to forget about Thrall's story after they made him into the green Goku lol.

@@agiagitator6476 You cared enough to reply lol. Hope your day gets better.

Maybe thats why kayle counters garen so hard :o, she shouldnt be killing herself

if youre looking for a werious answer, it's more like kayle answering garen's prayers

if u think that is strange. . . . rumbles flame thrower freezes you with that one freezing ap iteam smething something Ralys ore something, i can never get the name right

Killing a Brand with ignite....ha!

Considering lore of runeterra this would fit very well.

But GW2s class system is hot garbage.

@@_Diktator What pray tell would be a good class system then?

hopefully they do, because the things riot could do go far beyond the core universe, with the amounts of skins with their own set lore and universe riot could make pretty much anything work, for magical girl weebs they could make an star wardian as a mage sub class and build a portal with a raid or dungeon dedicated to it to unlock it an event, same with for anyone who wants futuristic traits on gunners or wariors using the project universe, or catering to the wardians of the galaxy vibes they could do an odyssey raid and an alternative sub class for the technicians of piltover, or go the other way and do an old wild west inspired sub class of demon hunters for centinels, and so on for almost anything, i mean if riot could made a light novel of the player dating spirits of ionia totally CANON, for the mmo there are no real boundarys and everything can be pulled of, there is high magic, ancient magic, high tecnology, tecnology+magic, time magic and so on, they can realistically make anything work in universe and still be fan-service milking money without any damage to the narrative, heck everything on the mmo could be in the mind of dr.mundo for all we know and still would make sense and we all be ok with it too so riot has free reighn in what to do, and in a sense that makes it hard because there is TOO MUCH to pick and choose, necrit didn't even explained nor mentioned 3/4 of what classes and/or sub classes there could be

@@suruthebeast4065 Ragnarok Online tiered class system for example. If we go by a non-FFXIV example. A Rogue plays significantly different from an Assassin despite sharing a common origin job. GW2 rigid weapon skill system doesn't allow for that.

Riot should just use them as references in ffxiv, guild wars 2 and wow, they already have a foundation and they just need to distribute the job or class or spec

Please don't use the word diversity it releases feelings of terror and oppression in people. Then again, you say what you want but man that word has been usurped and raped over and over just leave it be.

@@SapiaNt0mata League of Legends isn't a MMO. Valorant is completely different than League. TFT is probably the best example of "classes" they could create.

I'd think that Origions should all give very close to the same benefit. But Give the benefit at different times. Like for example, making the winder region's class get their benefit at a different part of the level progression or story progression then say the Demacian class.

A step up from runescape would be to Level up Skills where certain combinations of skills at the right levels would unlock class perks would be the ideal.

Asherons call did basically this, it had tons of community quests that shaped the world based on the outcome, too bad wow killed it by just burying it with adverts

u did describe Elder Scrolls Online. and maybe Ashes of Creation

Defiance did this. It was an MMO in which would affect the development of the TV show depending on what the players did.

Nah. This sounds as annoying as dailies. Just let me play the game, and stop forcing me to do things just to be competitive.

Aah yes, I love having to switch servers every time one becomes the best.

i dont think we'll have an experience like that till vr develops enough, allowing for us to become a lot more... immersed

@@zubhanwc3 we need a true sword art online where we will be trapped in the experience and if we get killed in-game we die irl lol people that hate their own reality would sign up for that hardcore mode and go out doing what they love. Just imagine if a large company greenlit that and then went bankrupt after the CEO commits suicide. What a story.

play dofus :)

@@George04957 Don't be that guy, I play FFXIV like a 2nd religion. It's not the savior to games and it doesn't suit everyone.

Those are the best ones

here's my idea for the classes in this game, and i'm not sure if it would be a feasible idea for an MMO of such a scale as Riot's planning, but it's what I feel would be the ideal marriage of game design, lore adherence, connecting back to LoL in a fun way, allowing the players to live out the fantasies they want to, and doing something new and unique. Note that this idea works off the assumption that they will have a more active skill-based combat in the vein of GW2 and Terra rather than classic WoW or FFXIV style tab-targetting, which i feel is a safe assumption to make given what they have said so far, their pedigree, and their aim for mass appeal. Here's the idea: make the classes very basic (probably the actual "classes" of champions in the actual league game: Tank, Fighter, Slayer, Marksman, Mage, Controller, Specialist; there's even proper subclasses you could use as advance classes or different talent trees for each: Tanks can be Vanguard or Wardens, Fighters can be Juggernauts or Divers, Slayers are Skirmishers or Assassins, etc). Make them mostly consist of passives, special modifiers, unique mechanics (ammo management, mana fatigue, berserk rage, stacking buffs, etc) or talent tree kinda things with maybe just a few active signature abilities. Then, make the weapons in the game limited, but completely unique, and its the weapon that dictates most of your active abilities and combat style, and have synergy with certain class(es) - like how in Bloodborne each weapon has a different move set so they're all unique, but they scale better with certain kinds of stat builds and pair well with certain items so you still have recognizable builds and good limitations on the player for balance. So instead of having a dual wielding gunslinger class like Miss Fortune and Lucian and a long range sniping class like Caitlyn, and a bow wielding ranger class like Ashe and Varus, and a cannon-wielding class like Jinx or Tristana, you just have a Marksman class that gives certain bonuses, passive abilities, talents and a couple unique ultimates revolving around fast-firing physical range damage, and then you have one pair of dual guns with a unique playstyle that works well with marksmen, one sniper rifle that has a unique playstyle that also works well with marksmen, one machinegun, one pistol, etc. And maybe the dual pistols work in such a way that they can be effectively used by Marksmen, Assassins, or Divers, in different ways, and you can even have more than one of the same weapon type (but still very few compared to standard MMO gear lists) with different aesthetics or unique signatures - imagine how much more special, unique and cool it would be if there were only, say, 5 whip-type weapons in the entire game, all had unique looks, and the newest raid boss has a chance to drop a brand new 6th whip that has a new look and a unique passive ability.

@@marcog.verbruggen674 I actually love this idea, idk how feasible it is but if this is how it is I'd be happy

It would be stupid if a warrior from demacia would be stronger than a warrior from noxus it should be just cosmetics they are the same class afterall

@@marcog.verbruggen674 that could only work if they did the same damage,if dual vielding pistol for pirates did 100 dmg then a bow for freljordians would have to do the same othervise people would just play the strongest class and it wouldnt be fair for other classes so basicly its just cosmetics

@@Cacany99 have you ever played a videogame?? That's not even remotely close to how game balance works at all. They dont't have to "all do the same damage", some weapons can do low damage but have powerful skills, others can do high damage but be very limited, others can provide mobility or utility at the cost of damage, others can be generally weak compared to everything else but have a damage over time, others can have unique quirks that make them good at specific situations. Flat stat comparison is a miniscule fraction of actual proper game balancing for both the players and the devs. Otherwise, every single team composition in league tournaments would be the exact same

Yeah, that applies even to their cosmology. For example, abyss isn't just a bad all consuming force, but a realm with creatures who suffered because of life. And gods who people are worshiping in league aren't good guys either, they trapped A Sol after all.

There is a TRUE bad guy though. The Void. This realm seeks only to destroy and consume nothing more. There is not 'oh they're doing it because X or Y' it's because they want to destroy and consume it's their nature. Still is more morally grey because it's not like they are targetting anything in specific they are just nondiscriminatory in their consumption of everything but the simple fact of the matter is the Void as an entity and a realm is a parasite bend on the destruction of everything. It can be harnessed and used for good, in the example of Kai'sa but she's the odd man out most void beings are mindless, hungry, or pure evil. (Kogmaw, Chogath, and Belveth respectfully)

Lore teemo is like bandle city secret weapon. When he is in a battlefield, "something" gets into him, like it's a different being altogether.

Demons, Voidkin, Darkin and (arguably) Watchers are all pretty super evil.

@@frustratedsquirrel ofc u have evil in the things u mentioned but none of those would be playable factions or races

More like Lineage 2 lol

I always loved that feature in Ragnarok Online, you even had to pass an exam to pass from the basic class to a super class.

@@Noobie2k7 I'd prefer the opposite, I like the Diablo4 idea where it's the spell that activate the required weapon.

Oh so like Leafling

What about lostark?

@@levi-222 hahahaha

So true

threw in Asfand, Soda and have a podcast with Necrit as a guest, title MMO riot games. Holy shit the views

lol riot's mmo will never come out and whenever it will its just some p2w lesbian characters all over the place

@@michaelaine14 ??? okay boomer

@@michaelaine14 you're in copium that is funny you're thinking that way.. you're probably a riot haters since riot is filling up trash genre dev making. Riot wouldn't make Valorant if CSGO wasn't a trash game. Your MMO trash genre is so trash riot is force to make MMO great again... Lol.

I've been watching him even before the pandemic and I kept on wondering why he doesn't get that much attention. he's so underrated tbh

There better be assassin lol

probably but I will play the same class I play in lol, a ranged sewer rat with a chemtech powered crossbow. I just hope there will be a playable race which looks like a rat

@@Alma-bs7un ""The only thing the sun's good for, is what it does to milk."

@@Purriah he's just a big stinking rat with higher intellect than the average rat. (Although that isn't a high bar to pass)

@@Purriah Mutant rat, not Vastayan ("furry" people) afaik.

Tank, Support, Ranged dps, Melee dps. Tank -> magic Tank, physical Tank subspecies further:) Etc etc Subspec options could be awesome! Melee dps -> magic Melee-> Kassadin style Melee magic haha

now that is actually a good idea. it could form a ton of hybrids but not a lot that overwhelms the game production. like for example a ranger that uses a relic that can kill an undead will be the sentinels of light. a freljordian warrior that starts to worship the iron boar becomes a berserker. probably even a fighter that worships the volibear becomes an ursine. an assassin that died by a quest and gets rewarded to live again can be revenants. there could be a lot more classes by doing quests and by having only 4 starting classes, they could have the freedom to just use an extension to extend and extend the classes available.

Albion like

@@omarcomming722 it just needs to stay a gimmick, not a competitive advantage over others overall

@@omarcomming722 I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Why does there being more factions/options to choose from for anything mean that each choice will have less of an identity?

@@omarcomming722 unless i got it wrong, if those things give you stats that can impact the game competitilvy, its a good thing to have

@@MooseCastle Long-term MMO social sturcutres do depend on a finite structure. In WoW I did want more than two sides. They went too soft with the Horde and I was hoping early on they were going to add the Scourge at some point. Playable Naga or Nerubians / etc would've been nice. They decided to expand their factions rather than add a new faction though. It may be a different style in the end though but having a global conflict between two sides is a pretty fun idea. Easier to balance as well. I hated how easy it was to balance in some ways. WoW - Orcs and Trolls shared a capitol city. Gnomes and Dwarves. Only elves and cows could be druids / etc. If you have more than two factions balancing becomes far more difficult. However, in game design to have ture balance actually requires less interesting mechanics, so the end result of having a more difficult to balance strucutre might be good in the long run.

What do you mean lost the magic? You've just outgrown video games as a whole. GW2 is still the same. WoW is still the same mechanically speaking. FFXIV is still the same. ESO is still the same.

starting WoW now isn't as bad as Asmon and every other big name makes it seem. plenty of people still just started playing WoW within the year. Asmon and others just don't want to admit that playing the same game for 15+ years with little to no breaks has left them jaded and longing for that nostalgia boner

@@Nico78Not FF14 is only 8 years old I thought (not counting the destroyed game, since that was so different they literally got rid of it)? Not brand new but it's not really "old". Same with ESO, though at least in ESO's case the game is quite a bit different to how it was at launch gameplay wise (I jump in roughly once a year, play for a bit, see the changes and then quit after a few weeks). GW2 I only started recently, so I can't say much on that one. WoW though, is entirely different from where it was at launch. When the devs started taking into account people having add-ons as part of the raid experiences, that alone is a sizeable change. People play WoW Classic because it's so different from retail WoW that it's considered a separate game by players and Blizz. I don't think that's the issue in this case, but I agree that some people look at games with too much nostalgia though.

@@sparkyspinz9897 Sorry to hear that, do you have any friends who play? I will admit it is a huge world so it's easy to get turned around in if you have no guidance, but my girlfriend just got the game a couple weeks ago and had a good time levelling from 1-48 with little to no help until she got to the Shadowlands content. Currently if you are on a fresh account after coming out of Exile's Reach you should be around level 10 and it should guide you into the BfA storyline as long as you are following the quests. The game gives you the option to PvP at a low level, but it isn't required. Levelling through dungeons is the path most people decide to take first time around. The thing I will agree WoW could do better is giving a "story" option for levelling that brings you through legacy content one expac at a time, in order, so you get the full story. You can do that yourself, but you will probably need some external guidance if that's the path you are looking to take. I wouldn't mind helping you out if you are still interested in playing.

Oh yeah wow ruined my 12-17 school life but I enjoyed every minute of it I met so many people on wow and I'm still friends today with a few. And I started back in 2005 Wow was definitely far different back then. Wow classic is nothing like the experience people had playing it and the social aspect was far better. People were just more curious and adventurous compared to wow players today.

same thought ! i'm 100% sure he'll fucking love it, i hope we get to see his reaction or take on the show if he doe watch it !

It'd have to be his take on it or snippets from the show or something. He could get copyright struck for straight up streaming even one episode.

@@camobranson09 reaction streams with a timer ,as to where in the episode the streamer is, are a thing

@@SquidSushi_ and those would likely get copyright struck on RU-vid. We all know Twitch is more lax with their stuff.

@@camobranson09 No audio no video of the show, there literally wouldnt be anything to strike lol

Isn't that how most MMOs work? It's how WoW has been since 2004, at least

@@sheetinthestreet5903 It was a slightly different formula than WoW, Forsaken World, and whatever. You could just straight up teleport to the other areas to be with friends once you walked maybe 3mins to the starter town. Man do I miss it. But, NCsoft couldn't keep the charm the game had and streamlined everything for no reason taking what made the game out of it. I haven't played WoW in quite some time. So I'm looking forward to WOTLK-C to jump back in.

An idea I had was to make everything gear / ability based. Example: you buy a sword, which you can then equip any of a number of sword based abilities on (kind of like Path of Exile's weapons and skill gems). They would also be able to pull a lot of the existing abilities from league for this. At that point, the classes would just be different starting stats / gear, but you could then build your own ability set from there.

Seems reasonable honestly, I'm not a big fan of classless games because of Albion Online but I reckon Riot can do it well

U mean Like Metin2 Has?

I don't imagine the game releasing before 2025 tho

@@stealthytrapper2328 it isn't, they estimated 2025 for the release.

​@@myst2212I am no expert and have a hard time to make assumptions especially based of so little info, so I would like to ask where you got your estimation from or how you came to that conclusion about 2025?

Best to not get your hopes up too high lad. Do you pay attention to the gaming industry? You know what is more than likely to happen

well the mmo wont come out for at the very least a couple years

Smart honestly, that way they can take their time without the community pushing them

Who says it’s a masterpiece? Talk about being overhyped before even seeing gameplay lol

@@cb6667 Well, riot has been reputable for producing great games. Look at League and Valorant.

@@hueyko2075 The thing is that designing a MMO is much different than just match instance games. MMO's require game designers to not just think of the now but the future. How would players scale from early to late game? How will you balance the economy? How will you reward casual and hardcore players? There is a reason why a majority of MMOs fail. Once you release a bad MMO you cannot go back, the early mistakes of the devs will have a everlasting effect on the game. Riot has a good track record but they have never tackled something on this scale before.

oh hey, a homie! nice meeting you

Bronze? Your words has no credibility. Kthnxbye.

I feel like a game can only have factions if there's preexisting and developped lore Wow players could pick factions because Horde / Alliance is a long time thing Star Wars work in a Empire / Republic or a Light / Dark side way. FF14 wouldn't work, because who cares about the starting regions, you don't know them. You DO pick a faction at some point, but it's purely cosmetic and has almost zero impact LOL has a long standing lore, so factions could be a thing, but I'm on the opinion that it's better not to split the playerbase

@@diersteinjulien6773 WoW factions don't work anymore.

@@tyty8484 (in my opinion) they don't work anymore because people don't *care* anymore. To work, factions need to have people invested in them equally. And that's freaking hard to do.

@@Amaling Most people hate a certain cat lately anyway lol.

Wtf are you talking about? Hunters have everything you mentioned for Teemo, but better. They are tankier, longer ranged, have a TRUE way to stop opponents from attacking (a stun or freeze or scatter instead of a blind), multiple traps, can get camo and move with it unrestricted, and can have even more annoying laughs depending on the race. I could go on but...

@@Amaling you better be talkin bout Cho'Gall. most fun I had in a MOBA.

@@Amaling sure, i stopped playing when they reworked my main a few years ago. still have a deep-seated hatred of teemo.

@@virulentskills225 a hunter in wow isn't usually spamming /l in duels, and hunters in PVP that i've seen dont chunk your DPS with shrooms when theyre on the other side of the arena. yes, hunters can freezetrap or knock you back, but teemo can ruin his opponents game without being seen after farming 10 minutes into game. and there are plenty of other yordles that are annoying as well.

@@Sephiroso. The Dragon Creatures we get to be kind of are. Dragons themselves, no, which you would be correct about

I mean, Panderans were a thing since early Warcraft 3. I'm not even talking about the expansion.

@@Sephiroso. They didn't have a ton of lore, but they appeared multiple times, first as an april fools joke(joking about them being the 5th playable race), then as a neutral creep, then, a few references and small jokes later, finally as the Brewmaster. Sure, we didn't get a lot of lore on them, but they've been there.

@@Sephiroso. Pandaren existed in Warcraft 3, so, that doesn't hold water with them either.

@@Sephiroso. So if a character exists, they're inherently the only one of their race alive?

Well he is expierenced in mmos

Where can I see his streams? Last time he was streaming it was apparently 3 months ago pls help me

@@mohamedarfaoui3533 He streams in his other twitch @zackrawrr

Brewmaster? Kinda?

I think it would be best to be able to consider these countries like reputation factions, separate from character creation or playing with friends, but it matters on the interaction with the world itself.

Most definitely. An orc for instance could side with the humans and start killing other orcs, and with every kill gain a bit of faction with groups that oppose orcs while losing faction with the orcs. Resulting in an orc that would be kill on sight by his own kind, but could freely walk around stormwind.

@Ms Moon Boo I never mentioned first person. Isometric is 3rd person but at a high angle so typically only the ground is visible on screen. It's the type of perspective that League of Legends uses and it would be stupid for them to disregard the millions of League players who are an already established audience of customers. Also, I never implied I dislike 3rd person. I just play very different classes depending on the perspective and amount of buttons.

@Ms Moon Boo I mean it was pretty obvious what I was talking about if you knew what an isometric perspective is and if you knew that most 3rd person MMOs are 3rd person "over the shoulder" or something.

i feel like it'd be better for blizzard to merge the horde and alliance into one big faction, it'd solve a lot of problems

@@panzer4720 It would create more problems than it would solve with the amount of faction-specific and faction v faction content in the game. We're talking overhauling the main cities and their structures, countless npc's and their dialogues, and many, many quests just wouldn't make sense

@@bisterkding9249 who cares just let me play with my friends

@@panzer4720 I don't want to play with alliance bums.

@@Desolaytore jokes on you, you've been playing with them for half of the game's life, blizzard just didnt want to go through with crossfaction but now they will

Where can I see his streams? Last time he was streaming it was apparently 3 months ago pls help me

@@mohamedarfaoui3533 on twitch dude lol

also the statement on one of the xayah and rakan stories, that some vastaya can actually choose what animal feature to have and to a degree how to have it too, that gives A LOT of flexibility for the vastaya in the mmo and potentially custom characters with different options based on origin or unlocked regions.

From what I undersood, there IS a difference between them. Vastaya ancestors are MAGIC animal f*ckers, where Minotors (and some others) are just straight up from normal animals

I dare you to play PoE. Especially, the current league.