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RIP High End - NEW Martin Logan Speakers! Motion XT F100 Review 

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@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
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@KING_DRANZER
@KING_DRANZER Год назад
Upper-Midrange battle is heating up. Good. Eagerly waiting for the KEF R Meta lineup review Next. Hope KEF gets them over to you guys soon.
@KristiWright
@KristiWright Год назад
@@KING_DRANZER I would encourage you to let KEF know you'd like to see that speaker on the channel.
@gaborszabo2880
@gaborszabo2880 Год назад
Are the Motion XT B100 good? Will there be a separate review? Please! 🙂I am tight on space.
@cool-j7148
@cool-j7148 Год назад
This or the Kef’s LS60 wireless which would you say sounds better ??
@KING_DRANZER
@KING_DRANZER Год назад
@@cool-j7148 No comparison. Both completely different products. One is Passive and other is Active. Anyhow LS60 is better. But if you are looking for Passive alternate I say look at their new R Meta Lineup.
@AlmightyGTR
@AlmightyGTR Год назад
Robinson, you made me do it. Pulled the trigger. F100s +C100 +MP10s. My front speakers have been all Martin logan'd now. If my wife leaves me, I will blame you. :)
@javiers.3433
@javiers.3433 6 месяцев назад
What is the chain for you speakers ????! Just curious as I’m thinking about this setup.
@AlmightyGTR
@AlmightyGTR 6 месяцев назад
@@javiers.3433 chain?
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 Год назад
You guys are “for the people,” while most other reviewers on the internet are in the business of promoting boutique brands. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your integrity.
@timobi_1604
@timobi_1604 Год назад
Fantastic review! Never loved the older Motion series. Looks like these are a Home Run for Martin Logan. Also just want to add how much the reviews are just technically head & shoulders above everyone else. Camera angles/ different views, Editing just 1st rate production. The way you guys do this makes one want to hear what you say next. Well done Andrew & Kristi! 😎
@scottbennett3119
@scottbennett3119 Год назад
Which previous Motion model were not pleased with?
@rocksinger45
@rocksinger45 Год назад
Ditto ~
@GoodkatNW
@GoodkatNW Год назад
The previous Motions were fantastic, also. Agreed with the production value on these videos, vastly superior to just about every other talking head style audio review channels out there
@mychaelhouck2404
@mychaelhouck2404 Год назад
Yeah, my first gen M40s are awesome
@scottbennett3119
@scottbennett3119 Год назад
@Joel Dazey The ML Motion i series speakers have plenty of high praise reviews, but they go underappreciated by those that haven't heard them.
@oct2274
@oct2274 Год назад
This was a really great review and caught me off guard! You two are amazing and I'm really looking forward to 2023 reviews :) I hope this means we have some paradigms coming up as well.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Thanks! No Paradigm right now, but things can change.
@drschroeder1
@drschroeder1 Год назад
Paradigm +1
@Porchewaitombi
@Porchewaitombi Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews No one in the world 🌎 watches your video like me waiting to see JBL HDI tower speakers comper to this ☝️ Thax am Torry from Uganda East Africa
@eddiehaskell1957
@eddiehaskell1957 Год назад
@@Porchewaitombi Uganda, an interesting history of your beautiful country. Just wanting to say hello. The internet has made the world a smaller place.
@netnakul
@netnakul Год назад
Comparison with Arendal 1723 TOWER THX would be incredible!!
@redstarwraith
@redstarwraith Год назад
Lol! When I saw these handsome speakers, the first thing I thought was, "Now here's a speaker that I'll wager Kristi and I will agree upon!"
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Given the Kristi had ZERO prior experience with the Motion line, I wasn't sure if this was going to be a speaker she liked or not.
@redstarwraith
@redstarwraith Год назад
Also wanted to add, I've never heard ML tower speakers but I have heard their electrostatic speakers. They were the cleanest, clearest, most antiseptic speakers I have ever heard. Definitely NOT to my liking but I could see where they would be a sound that some people would be chasing after.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I think he was referring to the satin white finish.
@amb86
@amb86 Год назад
In terms of looks, sonus faber is still the best with that sexy italian design and finish. Sorry but American taste just can't compare
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Год назад
@@amb86 it’s not a matter of taste, it is a matter of cost and function. Some high-end speakers are made from aluminum or carbon fiber and not wood. Also I usually listen to music in the evening in a darkened room. Lastly, since a lot of sf speakers are sold in the USA I am not sure what you mean by “American taste”.
@wingrider7931
@wingrider7931 Год назад
Awesome review! Seriously looking at the model just above these, the XF 200 as my next speaker. Was originally considering the Wharfdale Elysian 4s but they were just out of reach cost wise. Nice to see are able to compete at a substantially lower price.
@michaelrossmaessler200
@michaelrossmaessler200 Год назад
Nice to see Martin Logan delivered ( in more than one way ). When your company is known for electrostatic speakers producing something smaller, more affordable and easier to drive is a challenge. Thanks for reviewing them guys !
@davidperry4013
@davidperry4013 10 месяцев назад
Martin Logan should make Mini ESL electrostatic bookshelf speakers each with a 6.5-inch woofer and a 2-foot-tall electrostatic panel. It will basically be the cheapest US-made loudspeaker that Martin Logan will offer.
@markd4292
@markd4292 Год назад
I am so happy that Martin Logan upped their game. This speaker looks and sounds like it performs well above their previous Motion line, 60XTi and 40i, which by the way to me sounded beautiful. I am glad I opted not to get the 60XTi, these new speakers are now on my short list without question. For now I am going to enjoy what I have, but now I have The speaker I want to shoot for. Oh and by the way, I love the simple "M" logo on the speaker, it is so much more classy than their "Martin Logan" written logo. These speakers look so beautiful in the black/walnut finish. Thanks for the review.
@cafiveohsrockbandremix9254
@cafiveohsrockbandremix9254 Год назад
Another killer review! Knowing that you and Kristi have heard so many different speakers makes it all the more more incredible to hear her say these are some of the best speakers she has ever heard. I'd be real curious to hear the stand mount versions of these. Also, I'm super hopeful - and excited - for the future review of the RN-2000A and the MRX-740! Keep up the great work!!
@hobblyjig
@hobblyjig Год назад
I hope you might review some Arendal 1723 towers and compare them to these new Martin Logan towers. The prices are more similar than your other comparisons. And I think the performance may be as well.
@charlesking678
@charlesking678 Год назад
Finally Martin logan has woke up and recognized this channel 👏 🙌.
@foblivio
@foblivio Год назад
Congrats to you two for getting the scoop reviewing the new Motion line. I think you earned it and it appears as if the folks at Martin Logan are confident of their product and your reviewing abilities. What next, Paradigm/Anthem? I too would like a review of the bookshelf.
@Boxkerp
@Boxkerp Год назад
Holy crap, the Yahama streaming integrated amp! I didn't expect you guys to review these new Martin Logans any time soon. I was hoping that you'd really like the bookshelves since the XT towers are a bit out of range for me. I don't have any experience with Martin Logan in any way, but they captured my interest with these new speakers.
@DarrenKrusi
@DarrenKrusi Год назад
Shill!!!!!! So jealous! Martin Logan are end game and I still play back in my head the first time I heard their electrostatic speakers and the image they created in the void space between them. That white with FMT waveguide is gorgeous
@swhmetta
@swhmetta 9 месяцев назад
Interesting. I pulled up your graphics for the Meta r11s and compared. The F100's technically scored better all round. Yes, they fell short in the bass areas. I wonder how the F200's would have scored? According to Martin Logan, it's not just about more base. There is more resonance in the F200s. I am torn. My only reference is listening to Crutchfield's Compare and Listen. Martin sounds better there, but so does the Lumina 5's. It would be cool if you could summarize ALL of your floor standing speakers in a Rtings format. A sort of one stop shop to see their scores. Any thoughts?
@jmax5105
@jmax5105 Год назад
Very nice looking speaker to match the sound! I love hearing reviews like this that show that the 'sound to price' ratio is flattening a little bit and that you can get GREAT sound without having to spend tens of thousands of dollars on speakers and equipment to get great sound. Thank you for all the work you both do on all of these. I LOVE having all of the links in the descriptions! I can't imagine that is easy to do each time, but THANK YOU for the extra effort and information! I always use the links when making a purchase! ;-) I know there are a few upcoming reviews that I'm already excited about.... Keep up the amazing work!
@BryanRuby
@BryanRuby Год назад
Pretty excited you both are excited about these speakers. After watching the video, my dream speaker on a budget is still the Polk R700. My dream speaker on a "Bryan Gone Wild" budget is now the Motion XT F100.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
That's how I would rank 'em. Appreciate you tuning in Bryan!
@Johnnytrades101
@Johnnytrades101 Год назад
Great review! Sucks being an Audiophile these days lol. With new products like the ML's fuels the upgradeitis that some of us have. I have Sonus Faber Sonetto VIII's, great speakers, but I had Legacy Classic HD, EMT tweeter which I really liked, but was too (razor accurate) sharp for me. The ML might be worth checking out! your opinion? there is a dealer near me, gotta check em out!
@boomerscs9193
@boomerscs9193 Год назад
Really, really, really want a review of the bookshelf. Also would be VERY interested in your take on comparing the center channel to a single bookshelf since they can be purchased individually. I already own subs and prefer my center and l/r speakers to be identical. Thanks.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Noted!
@GreatLove10
@GreatLove10 Год назад
Merci Andrew and Kristi ! Fantastic review of these magnificient speakers. I was just looking at the beauty and the quality construction of thses speakers and was telling myself : Geez these should sound awesome ! And I listened to your review and was absolutely sold !! Andrew I just can't keep myself to watch your videos review because you put so much enjoyment and passion. In the same time you can put great technical specs with ease without losing us. And the chitchat with Kristi is just the icing of the cake. You cannot do a better review of these speakers that I will put #1 on my list. Thanks you so much for a great great review !!! Xavier
@RahzAlGhul
@RahzAlGhul Год назад
I just heard them yesterday and love them exactly what I want in a speaker. I wonder how they compare to the motion 60
@bradbortner2601
@bradbortner2601 Год назад
I went and demoed these at a Magnolia store at Best Buy. They did not seem much to know how to demo them. They were positioned way too far apart for the distance, and the only amps they had to drive them with were not two channel. My observations in this context is that the imaging was really really good, as was the mid range. I was not, however, as blown away by the base as I expected. I have no idea if that is due to them using subpar amplification, or something about the set up. Mentally, I was comparing them to PSB t2 speakers I have at home, supplemented with a SB3000 pro subwoofer. This is the challenge with trying out new speakers these days. The only real way to do it is order from someone with a decent trial period, but then one has to deal with prospect of shipping really heavy speakers back if they don’t work out. I miss the days of lots of good audio shops to go try speakers out! There is a similar problem with Polk. There is nowhere to hear them in the Greater Boston area.
@mpp9964
@mpp9964 Год назад
Great review. I still struggle to understand the space comments / constraints around a tower vs bookshelf. Especially with these new speaker stands that are splayed out in nature vs a straight up tower. Towers take up no more space generally than most bookshelves on stands.
@kconnor2371
@kconnor2371 Год назад
While I agree with you, the towers look much more massive in a room than a bookshelf on a stand
@shonholland9111
@shonholland9111 Год назад
Two weeks ago I bought the F100's to compare them to my ML 60XTI which are the previous version of these speakers. I spent around 50-60 hours testing them and eventually returned them as my 15 day return policy ended. Maybe it's my ears, room, or other equipment, but I didn't find the sound to be that much different from the 60Xti as they are both incredible speakers. In testing I had the subs off and no eq, so it was just the speaker and my room. I don't know how many times I listened to the same songs trying to hear the differences. If I did hear differences they were subtle and at this price I expected to easily hear the differences. I was 12 hours off the suggested break-in time so maybe that would have made a difference? I tried movies as well, the John Wick nightclub scene. Once again no sub or eq and both speakers were amazing. I think it was the first time I've watched that scene with my subs off and I was impressed by how well each speaker handled the scene. The bass was excellent and the gunshots were piercing. The only difference I did hear, and it was very obvious, was near the end of the scene with the first gunshot that hit John Wick in the bullet proof vest. For some reason that one gunshot, each of the four times I watched it, had some extra sound effect playing with it or something on the F100's where it was just a normal gunshot on the 60Xti's. I do like the looks of the F100's over the 60Xti's and going in I was excited to hear these new awesome speakers, but for me there just wasn't enough improvement for me to keep them.
@jamesdugalais5653
@jamesdugalais5653 Год назад
I agree with you, i m owner of the 60xti, i listened the F200 and was not very impressed. Bass is going deeper for sure, but i use 2 sb3000 anyway so it is not critical. I prefer the classy look of old 60xt(i), but it is a matter of taste. Conclusion: 60xti are a big bargain imho
@yenbbc8840
@yenbbc8840 8 месяцев назад
at this moment the 60 XTI's are now $2000 a pair in white or cherry. the new XTF200's are $5500. i wonder if its worth the difference.
@shonholland9111
@shonholland9111 8 месяцев назад
​@@yenbbc8840 If you are in the States then I would demo the F200's from Crutchfield and see if you like them since they have a great return policy. That's what I did and ultimately didn't think the F100's were worth the price over the 60Xti. I did demo the B100's first so I had both of them and was able to return both the F100 and the B100 with no issue.
@kyleo2113
@kyleo2113 Год назад
Please don’t write off reviewing the bookshelf version - it comes in around $800 and in home theater application it may be a superior buy with some subs - for two channel these towers sound like they fit the bill but as an upgrade path for many who already have subs on hand or in a home theater the bookshelves could be a more cost effective path to awesome! 🙏
@shardie78239
@shardie78239 Год назад
When you guys reviewed the Lumina 2 you were very excited about them, but this appears to be your favorite by far. I absolutely can’t wait to hear these because I know they must be fantastic. Something else I figured out is that several times you compared the R700’s in the review so they must be a very good speaker as well, not as pretty to look at but still very good sound especially for the money.
@ringo1138
@ringo1138 Год назад
Ohhhhhhhh that new Yamaha R-N2000! Can’t wait!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Stay tuned!
@markgettemeyer1145
@markgettemeyer1145 Год назад
Your delivery of information and and the sheer objectivity of it, without making your viewers feel like they have to run out and buy these, is commendable. I feel that as a consumer I am armed with a wealth of information to make an informed decision completely on my own. We’ll done 🙏🏼
@q3trimco
@q3trimco Год назад
Words mean absolutely nothing. Smart people use their ears.
@jeffreymercado4155
@jeffreymercado4155 Год назад
I wish you guys had been able to review the 1723s from Arendalsound. They are 85lbs each and are built like tanks. I would love to hear a comparison between the MarginLogan and the 1723s
@themarklar8759
@themarklar8759 Год назад
^^^^ 1000% this especially the 1723 THX tower.
@xsamitt
@xsamitt Год назад
@@themarklar8759 meeee Tooooo!!!!
@jmichaej4853
@jmichaej4853 Год назад
I was already to pull the trigger on 1723’s before seeing this video. I ordered the F100’s. It was more money but everyone’s enthusiasm for these ML speakers and their sound sealed the deal.
@jeffreymercado4155
@jeffreymercado4155 Год назад
@@jmichaej4853 I am sure you are going to be very happy. The 1723s are really big with a really big sound. I imagine the MLs have a more forward sound with those tweeters. I want to hear them at best buy
@themarklar8759
@themarklar8759 Год назад
@@jmichaej4853 please update the group here on this thread once you have the MLs and let us know what you think! Thanks!
@rwaring58
@rwaring58 Год назад
Really intrigued by this new Motion XT line. Considering upgrading my Polk LSiM front stage (703 bookshelf pair and 704c center), and given I have Rel T5x subs for each, the B100 bookshelfs + C100 center seem like fantastic options for getting transparency and detail in the highs + mids at a reasonable price. Hearing these being talked about in the same breath as the B&W 805 D4s regarding treble says a lot about their capacity!
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
👋 ANDREW,KRISTI ,Sounds like MARTIN LOGAN,was worth the wait 🤗 And I think 🤔 they look 👀 great in your room 🤗👍💚💚💚
@hobblyjig
@hobblyjig Год назад
It’s nice to be able to hear direct comparisons to the Polk R700s I’ve had for a while. I had cut my wish list of home theater speaker upgrades down to Arendal 1723 and high-end Wharfdale. But after this video I have to add Martin Logan to that list and I’m not sad about it. Their old motion series were my original dream speakers. A lot of that came down to reputation and looks. But they didn’t review well enough to stay on my list. The new line looks as good or better than the old one (I’m a sucker for satin white) and now has one of the best reviews I’ve ever heard from my most trusted source.
@scottbennett3119
@scottbennett3119 Год назад
Would you please share the review of the previous Motion speakers you are referring to. Thanks
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Год назад
You and I have similar tastes friend!
@benchedballergames5621
@benchedballergames5621 Год назад
High end wharfedales as in the evo or Elysians?
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Год назад
@@benchedballergames5621 evos are plebeian. The elysians are regal
@hobblyjig
@hobblyjig Год назад
@@benchedballergames5621 Elysians 😳 I like the Polk R700s better than the Wharfedale Evo line.
@dawaynecleckley8673
@dawaynecleckley8673 Год назад
I love the enthusiasm! I could tell you two really liked these. 🤣 The speakers are beautiful, almost majestic! I missed their sensitivity rating but I'll look it up. Thanks for a great review!
@dawaynecleckley8673
@dawaynecleckley8673 Год назад
@@KristiWright Thanks so much Kristi!
@movie_av_impulse
@movie_av_impulse Год назад
Usually I would definitely go for the white finish because there different. However this would be the one of those times where I love the Wood finish a touch more! What else that I love is these towers demand your full attention 😆. Oh also I agree with Kristi the logo is just enough and not in your face! have a good rest of your weekend guys!
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Год назад
I'd love to see a review of the 1723 or 1723 S Arendals and compared with these Martin Logans!
@t8500shx
@t8500shx Год назад
I was going to ask you guys if you could review these speakers 😁. It was Awesome when I checked this morning’s video and saw it 😮. I wanted to get the Polk R700 but they always seem out of stock 😢. But I also wanted a slightly better finish. You guys really Hit it out of the Park with this review!!! You guys are my Favorite RU-vid AV reviewers 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@tyleryosef9862
@tyleryosef9862 Год назад
Aargh… More silver drivers… come on speaker designers… Black and only black.
@ckp4394
@ckp4394 Год назад
Your reviews are so damn good I feel like I now need to get these speakers!
@joeydelmarsjr.646
@joeydelmarsjr.646 Год назад
will these XT speakers make bad recordings more evident? or make low quality audio from movies sound bad?
@Audiomainia2310
@Audiomainia2310 Год назад
Well, I thank I'm going to pull the trigger - and not tell my wife. Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission!!👍👍
@charlesking678
@charlesking678 Год назад
The way you described these speakers they sound comparable to older polk lsim series in particular the polk lsim707. What an excellent speaker. It by itself had a tremendous amount of detailed quick deep bass, and an awesome treble and midrange. It bests all of the bookshelf/sub pairings I've tried. Good job martin logan.
@damienmercer4731
@damienmercer4731 Год назад
…dude, I replaced my LSiM 705 with the (now) old Motion 40i… very happy I did so… might be smaller, but much better… Your not gonna lose upgrading from those LSiM 707’s…
@TallMidwestCyclist
@TallMidwestCyclist Год назад
One thing I never can quite wrap my head around is what is required to drive a speaker like this. My current older AVR is a Pioneer SC-1522-K unit. It claims: Class D3 Amplification › Channels: 9.2 › 720 W Multi ch Simultaneous Drive (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 8 ohms) › 210 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 4 ohms) › 170 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 1 % @ 6 ohms) › 130 W/ch (1 kHz, THD 0.08 % @ 8 ohms) Is this sufficient to drive the Motion XT F100 and Center channel? Thanks for the great Review. These are on my absolute shortlist.
@nickelbut10
@nickelbut10 Год назад
Great review! Martin Logan has been one of those brands for years bringing products to the market with high end sound at mid level pricing, utilizing non inflated margins. So glad you got your hands on a pair of the towers!
@stonefree1911
@stonefree1911 Год назад
I have 35XT's in my second system (used to be my mains) and they are REALLY good speakers. But I have to admit...the cosmetics on them wasn't the best IMHO. These look like the appearance matches the sound.
@BJyelhsA
@BJyelhsA Год назад
I've just heard these at the Bristol HiFi show here in the UK and I now understand your enthusiasm for these. Wow, simply phenomenal. I've been looking for new speakers for a few years and I think I've just found the one.
@andrefortune8278
@andrefortune8278 Год назад
Didn't you find the PMC superior?
@BJyelhsA
@BJyelhsA Год назад
@@andrefortune8278 They were actually very impressive too, I did like PMCs but there was something about the Martin Logan's clarity and tonality I really liked. Might have to give the PMC another listen though. What was better about the PMC for you?
@andrefortune8278
@andrefortune8278 Год назад
@@BJyelhsA well depends at what point you caught the demonstration but they swapped between the bigger models 24i and 26i... i like the punchy bass from the transmission line and the delicate highs which were very articulate stunning midrange just perfect tonal balance overall 🤩 music flowed much more easier with the extra driver from the 26i but me personally more superior overall performance may have been electronics and pairing but to each is own... the proac k10 were simply effortless and stunning that caught my ears 😂😂
@BJyelhsA
@BJyelhsA Год назад
@@andrefortune8278 great summary Andre. I can't remember which I heard, I think they had just swapped to the 26i. My dealer has both on demo so I'm definitely going to have another demo with some familiar tracks but a lot is personal taste perhaps too. Good luck with your audiophile journey and thanks for sharing your thoughts on these and the PMCs 🧡👍
@danielgallagher2728
@danielgallagher2728 7 месяцев назад
I wat and because of your review will probably get
@0-60STYLE
@0-60STYLE Год назад
Welp, time to sell all my gear and buy these ones
@ElCidPhysics90
@ElCidPhysics90 5 месяцев назад
Dedicated Home Theater: These, the Polks, or Klipsch 8000 II?
@jerameyregimbald2137
@jerameyregimbald2137 7 месяцев назад
I need help! I just auditioned the xt F100's and Polk r700's. After your review, and a few others, I was convinced the f100's were going to be my next speakers. Since they aren't cheap, I wanted to hear them first, before I pulled the trigger. I asked to audition the r700's, as well, so I had something to compare them to. I drove 3 hours to hear these F100's. They set up the Polks first and I listened for almost an hour straight. They sound amazing! They set them up on the Denon x4800h, since that's the receiver I currently have and put it on pure direct mode, no amp. I loved what I was hearing. There was a body and texture that I was missing with my current Klipsch. The bass was impressive. I never felt like a sub was needed. Everything I listened to, in tidal, sounded great. After almost an hour I had them switch to the F100's. I was expecting to be blown away especially with how impressive the r700's sounded. I listened to the exact same tracks in the same order. Immediately I was disappointed. The richness, especially in the vocals, seemed to disappear. I no longer felt the bass. It felt like so much of what I loved about the Polks was missing. It felt like the f100's were further away and if I turned them up they sounded harsh to my ears. I could tell they had a wider and deeper sound stage. I could tell the highs were more detailed. While the Polks were good, the ML's separate the sounds better, almost like every sound was coming from different speakers. They just seemed sterile and almost surgical, with no body. They actually felt brighter than my 15 year old Klipsch Icon WF35's. In fact, they had a very similar sound to my WF35's. Granted, I have never run them without a sub, but I enjoy my WF35's with a sub more than I did the F100's without a sub. What's going on here? Why did it immediately sound like they took the wind out of the sails when they switched to the f100's? Why was I blown away by the R700's and disappointed with the F100's? Am I missing something? I was all set to buy the F100's along with the center and rears, but after listening to them I was disappointed. I listened to them for about an hour and toward the end I forgot what the Polks sounded like and started to feel like maybe they sounded better than I thought. They still felt like I was being shouted at from far away, but I was enjoying them toward the end of my session. I asked to switch back to the Polks and wow... Everything came alive again. This really was a night and day difference. Not subtle in the least. I have never listened to other speakers besides my own. I have no frame of reference for what "high end" is supposed to sound like. This was my first experience ever doing an A/B comparison. While I have a x4800H, I also have an Emotiva XPA5 gen3 amp for my bed layer and a Marantz MM7055 for my ceiling speakers. I wonder if my amp would make the ML's sound better and that's what was missing. Also I thought the Polks looked nicer. The finish of the ML's looked plastic and the front baffle didn't fit properly. It didn't sit flush with the cabinet. I could easily push it flush with my fingers, one corner at a time, but it immediately bounced back. Could it be that these were floor models that got beat up? They did specifically say they took the r700's out of the box, just for my audition because they didn't have any on display. I wonder if something was off and I didn't hear them like they should sound. The highs, clarity and sound stage were impressive, but Bright, and bass and texture were missing. Was I listening to a defective, or underpowered speaker? did I listen to the wrong songs? Maybe the addition of the subs and/amp would help? Or maybe I enjoy a less refined sound more? Lol
@scottcarlon6318
@scottcarlon6318 6 месяцев назад
I think you showed they need more power.
@vvsousa
@vvsousa 4 месяца назад
I was also undecided between these two but I always focused on polk, now listening to your words I'm really going for polk. Thanks
@pieflies
@pieflies 27 дней назад
There’s lots of personal preference in audio. Many times I’ve gone to audition speakers I wanted based on reviews and have left with something I never even intended to look at. It could be setup too but surely the staff in the audio store would know what they’re doing or would have said if they recommended a more powerful amp or something. It’s often in their interest to sell the more expensive speakers after all.
@williamvandever3591
@williamvandever3591 10 месяцев назад
live in delaware love to hear them any help would be great,overture audio said thay dont have them,thank u thank u.thinking the forte first but these look so much better made
@johnstanton8308
@johnstanton8308 Год назад
As always, terrific review Andrew and Kristi! While you mentioned that you probably won't be reviewing the B100 bookshelf speakers, I would love to hear your thoughts on those. While I have a smaller room than yours, It's really the price difference that is critical for me. It looks like you could buy a pair, including a decent subwoofer for half the cost of the towers, and I already own a nice REL subwoofer. If the sound of the bookshelves with a sub (more for music than home theater) competes favorably with the towers, it would represent a far more economical option.
@lawpenner
@lawpenner Год назад
I'm in your same boat. The B100 bookshelf speaker has all of the new features of the XT line we are after. 1) the new 2nd Gen AMT tweeter 2) the new waveguide design for better tweeter dispersion 3) the new "Nomex Reinforced Kevlar cone" for the 6.5 inch midrange woofer 4) the new design esthetic The 3 bass woofers below on the F100 are NOT the new kevlar cones. If you already own sub(s) then you can save $3,000 while still being able to experience the "new" of Martin Logan's new tech
@douglasallen534
@douglasallen534 11 месяцев назад
What are your thoughts on an Anthem MRX 540 8k with the Motion XT F100 or XT F200's? Not needing rolling thunder just, a good quality sounding 2 channel system for 80 percent music, 20 percent home theater. Or would the Anthem MRX 740 8K be the better step?
@douglasallen534
@douglasallen534 11 месяцев назад
Current setup. Monitor Audio Silver RS6's with RSLCR center channel. Yamaha subs in the center with a Pioneer receiver taking the place of a Rotel that let out magic smoke a few years ago. Plan is to go with 2 channel stereo for now then go add a center channel later.
@franciscoortiz6980
@franciscoortiz6980 Год назад
Yup... MLogi makes fantastic speakers. Crazy how their motion series has NOT gotten more attention. Has and loved motion 35xti... for about 1K a pair. Proud of you... this is the 2nd ribbon-ish speaker you have liked.
@tombillard5264
@tombillard5264 Год назад
Arenal 1723 about 800 cheaper,. Any thoughts supposed to be another giant killer
@MarkSH76
@MarkSH76 Год назад
I've listened about a dozen of your reviews (of which are very thorough and educational) and this one has me adding the Martin Logan XT line to my short list of speakers to try (for I'm still searching for that sound that creates audio nirvana for me). Thank you for yet another excellent review!
@dan-qe1tb
@dan-qe1tb Год назад
You can buy my 60 XTs if I get F100s. These are bold. These are brash. The sound stage, is deeper, than it is wide. Resolution, is nothing short of exceptional, for the price.
@marknickells6097
@marknickells6097 6 месяцев назад
I have been enjoying Martin Logan's for about five years. I had a pair of Motion 4's tacked on, as my Surrounds, anchored to a Motion 8 center. Coupled to a pair of ADS L-810's . Call them vintage , but for about 900 a pair, THEY beat the snot of any modern speaker. (Some of the new speakers, costing 2-3 ) grand. Several months ago, I made the mistake of selling the ADS speakers, and pulled the Trigger on a new pair of Martin Logans ; F''1's. (This is where I didn't understand what ML was thinking.) There were four iterations of basically the same speaker), All sharing the same case. F1's F100's and an XT slapped on to it. Then , with a slight MOD, THE F2 system was born. F200 , F200 XT. (which in my opinion, made no sense. ) THE Woofers went from 5.5 " to 6.5". And, by that point; It was getting too expensive. THE speakers were returned. Three years ago; I upgraded the Center to a Motion 30, and my surrounds got bumped to Motion 15's. Everything thing changed. I had sold a pair, of B%W's 685 , and had transplanted my Motion 15's as my main speakers. Off the charts, amazing sound, was an understatement. More over- The little speakers put out sound, I could hardly believe. I am now running four of them , matched with M.L 400 Sub. In this configuration, they are something incredible. And, still blow me away. My recommendation, Don't spend 18-2500' dollars on the Towers. Do, instead , run the Quad 15's, and a Sub setup. You won't be disappointed. -Mark-
@mpcmboy
@mpcmboy Год назад
Listen, this review has me floored! I'm a Martin Logan fanboy and this surprise of a review has me ready to upgrade NOW!!! I currently have the motion 20's, 30 center, 15's for surround and 4i's for Atmos. Sounds like the new f100's are leagues above my set. I would love a comparo between the f100's and the paradigm founder 100f's. Who at paradigm do i need to launch my letter/email writing campaign to get you and Kristi a pair to review? I so need it. Thanks for the content and keep 'em coming!
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 Год назад
So glad to see a nice 'nod of approval' toward ML ! I am in the electrostatic camp with the Classic 9's from the Masterpiece series and a Dynamo 1600x subwoofer. It is good to see the spotlight on this company once again! Thanks so much, always look forward to your casual and friendly style 🙂
@robwr737
@robwr737 Год назад
@Andrew Robinson great video $4500/pr is somewhat reasonable but I'm a true budget buyer, lucked out and picked up older polls (I think they are a T series tower and they are pretty good, always loved Polk. My questions surround 4 ohm speakers like these. What are the best under $3500 receivers that can run these Can? I've always been more comfortable with 8 ohm speakers and many receivers aren't so clear about 4 ohm even though they may say 4-16 ohm capable? 2nd Bigger question is Can you run these and run an 8 ohm center and rears in 5.1 off the same receiver and is that safe for the receiver? Thanks, love the channel. - Rob
@scottbennett3119
@scottbennett3119 Год назад
I'm glad to see the Martin Logans getting the praise they deserve! The previous motion series was also really good, well, at least the model I own. I am not sure what previous model you were not pleased with.
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 Год назад
The best measuring MLs in forever, imo ML has been off my radar for years because they just sounded poor and the measurements always confirmed it. The new looks are finally an aesthetic update to the modern era.
@rekodo_intl
@rekodo_intl Год назад
Very intrigued by your enthusiasm for these speakers. Might get these for my office. My wife might freak if I bought yet another speaker for our home. haha
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
These might be overkill for an office space (depending on the room size of course). The bookshelf bit.ly/3DZRs6f would be a nice option for an office IMO.
@rekodo_intl
@rekodo_intl Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Oh yeah I meant the lounge area in my office. A turntable and kickass speakers would make my ad agency "cool". ha
@gls0417
@gls0417 10 месяцев назад
Awesome review! Cancelled my current speaker order then ordered F200s, WOW!
@mohamedahmed1023
@mohamedahmed1023 Год назад
Holy crap! I was never a fan of the look of their older motion speakers but adore the way these look. I do like their subs though. To think the performance of these also exceeds their appearance? I have a pair of Polk Reserve R500s and am tempted to upgrade!
@daniannaci3258
@daniannaci3258 Год назад
M-L subs are great! I have a pair of Dynamo 800X paired with my Bowers and Wilkins 805 D3 stand mounts. Perfect blend. I also have a 1999 pair of M-L Aerius stats in my den. They give those 805’s a run for their money.
@davidlee4358
@davidlee4358 Год назад
I bought two speakers 60xti Tower I love them. What about the new Logan Speakers better than the one I have now or through an upgrade
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 Год назад
God the wood veneer option looks gorgeous!!!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
It's a real wood veneer and looks even better in person.
@postjm9
@postjm9 Год назад
The amount of time you spent talking about the feet shows how much headroom there is for other manufacturers to improve just in the realm of practical, mechanical engineering. Things that aren't new tech can make a real impact.
@westcoast708
@westcoast708 Год назад
Good morning, guys. Another great video ))..
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Thanks West Coast! Appreciate you tuning in!
@billythestalker
@billythestalker Год назад
Just heard these yesterday afternoon. And damn…. You were spot on. Amazing speaker 😮
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Год назад
I was this close to buying the Wharfdale Elysian 4s and matching center, but if this is equal or better at a third less the cost (I’m considering the XT f200s), then I’m shocked 😮 and super happy than ML delivered.
@xsamitt
@xsamitt Год назад
I still think that the Wharfdale Elysian 4's cabinet is is built better. This is a speaker fight I'd like to hear in person to know for sure!
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Год назад
@@xsamitt good point
@xsamitt
@xsamitt Год назад
@@Novilicious One can not overlook the weight difference! A factor that is indeed a factor to consider!
@evangaudet
@evangaudet 9 месяцев назад
Can you bring this speaker into more of your comparisons in future videos? I love this review. Fascinating that Kristi compares them to La Scalas. I’ll always remember your guys’ La Scala review. Really been wanting the electro static speakers for a while now. Wish I knew your opinion on these vs their ESLX speakers.
@danil34
@danil34 Год назад
Love it. You guys are awesome. So refreshing
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Thanks so much! They were fun to review.
@nonametofame
@nonametofame Год назад
Exceptional review! Please review the bookshelf by itself. It's so much more accessible to your fans.
@1hotsocalguy
@1hotsocalguy Год назад
great rewiew thanks
@JKadison
@JKadison Год назад
Thanks for sharing such an amazing product. It would be wonderful to have the space and money to make them really sing.
@Joystick_Gamer
@Joystick_Gamer Год назад
They look like pieces of art and I love that they sound as good as they look!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
They're soooo good. You'll have to hear 'em playing Overwatch 2 INSANE!
@SinghIsKingh
@SinghIsKingh Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I just bought them in white !
@Joystick_Gamer
@Joystick_Gamer Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I can only imagine and look forward to it! Do you think they’ll become your “permanent” choice when not reviewing?
@davidlee4358
@davidlee4358 Год назад
I have my Martin Logan motion 60xti I was thinking upgrade which would be better the 100 or the 200 the new martin Logan Speakers
@stagmeyer
@stagmeyer Год назад
I'd like to see these compared to the Arendal 1723 THX. Those have received rave reviews too and they're ~$1200 cheaper. Build quality on both looks pretty solid, but the Arendal comes in around 110lbs per speaker compared to the 76lb M&L's.
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 Год назад
I'd love to see the comparison as well. They are $800 less though. But based on size the Arendal 1723 competes with the Martin Logan XT200's at $5,500, so $1,800 cheaper!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Arendal makes a solid speaker; we enjoyed the 1961s. We have not heard the 1723 and at this time do not have any plans to.
@stagmeyer
@stagmeyer Год назад
@@bearclaw5115 Arendal's pricing is with tax and shipping included, so after tax it is closer to $1200. You're right though that the next tier up might be the better comparison!
@MrEvhel83
@MrEvhel83 Год назад
Finally a winner :) But i would go for the XT F200.. :)
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 Год назад
Coffee in hand ready to go!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Me too!
@roinebloom2807
@roinebloom2807 Год назад
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thank you for this review. I am in love 😍 Now I look forward to a review of the Yamaha RN-2000A. 😊
@tomprevost2477
@tomprevost2477 Год назад
Like how Kristi is the "voice police" when evaluating speakers. Lol
@dajikbatarang1
@dajikbatarang1 Год назад
Great review. Personally I would probably go up the line and get the ESL 9 since the sound of a panel (electrostatic or planar) really is something else.
@1911Earthling
@1911Earthling 6 месяцев назад
While I don’t know this product I did buy ML Motion 60XT speakers at full retail when they first came out. I then immediately bought the matching 60XT center speaker and two JBL floor standing speakers for the rear surround sound. It was a big investment but I ne er for one moment regretted it. Over the years I get more and more enjoyment and entertainment. I have watched thousands of movies and millions of hours of music. The music gets better! As ignorant as I was about hi fi I went with the most money I could afford in the space I had. They are the heaviest speakers you will ever own mine are 65 pounds of dead weight. So heavy. The mellow sweet sound is a result of the very strong cabinet that keeps the air moving in the speaker and not waisting energy pumping up the cabinets. Very powerful units. Two bass speakers one mid range and a folded tweeter. I only had one shot and I was very satisfied very satisfied indeed. Very strong units.
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 Год назад
Awesome
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
Thanks for tuning in!
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 Год назад
Always😝
@stevewright1539
@stevewright1539 Год назад
Finally got ‘em (walnut) with C100. These absolutely image as well as anything I’ve ever heard. After Dirac they even got better. Biggest surprise was their home theater performance. Center soundstage is tight but wrap well to the side and rear. Amazing all around speaker. Music & movies. These speakers kill! Thanks A & K!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
That's great to hear! Enjoy!!!
@eskilstrmmen4792
@eskilstrmmen4792 Год назад
Love your reviews! Could you do a pair of KEF R3?
@MisterJDee
@MisterJDee Год назад
I was sold on the Arendal 1723 thx towers… and now I’m torn between them and the ML f100. I’ve just read that the ML f100 are 92db sensitive… would you say they are a good speaker for low volume listening? Also would they be a good pairing for a tube amp?
@andrewrobinsonreviews
@andrewrobinsonreviews Год назад
As long as you have a 4 ohm capable power source, the F100s are very good at all volumes. They would be good with a tube amp as long as it had the appropriate power. We briefly demoed them on our Decware Zen which I wouldn't recommend but an amp like our Canor which is 45 watts should do just fine.
@4EverJoyDivision
@4EverJoyDivision Год назад
USA Price: $4500 UK Price: £5,595 ($6900) EU Price: €6400 ($6900). Price gap: $2400 😤 Wake up Martin Logan and take some lessons from Klipsch and Polk Audio's price policy. Or else you will never sell many of these beauties in Europe.
@IAWAF
@IAWAF Год назад
I bought the discontinuing ML XT60’s three years ago as my late-in-life entry into higher end audio. Since then, I have heard others be unimpressed by them, noting allegedly poor internal bracing and resonances not afflicting other comparable brands. It seemed that the XT60i’s (never heard them) offered incremental improvement, including better bracing. Still, I have rarely seen or read anyone really impressed by ML loudspeakers. I like “mellow” music more than acid rock or hip-hop, and my ML’s provide all I need. I appreciate your review of the XT F100’s and hope to hear them one day, but I doubt I will be buying them anytime soon. I doubt I’d get much for my XT60’s and I don’t have the room or budget to splurge $5,000 on an additional set of tower speakers.
@BroncosBilly
@BroncosBilly Год назад
First things first, thanks a ton for the wonderful reviews, your reviews feel much more grounded and heartfelt to me while being knowledgeable yet unfussy. I’m feel I am much versed and in the know before a month when I stated playing with the idea of putting together my own setup. Q - XT F100s or Forte IVs ? I know it’s subjective but what would you guys pick ?
@wizardmix
@wizardmix Год назад
While I am supremely happy with the loudspeaker choice I made (these are ones that cannot be found hardly even on the used market but they are fantastic), I am SO STOKED that the little high-end audio store in my tiny town is a Martin Logan dealer which means I might (FOR ONCE) actually get to hear these in person. Considering the depth and breadth of your reviews and knowing that these might be the new high water mark, that will tell me everything I need to know about where the bar is (and how my speakers are from it). Cheers!
@Boorock70
@Boorock70 Год назад
OMG ! that Gloss Black XT F100s looks sexy as a SuperModel naked on Stilettos. I'm definitely in love. Jaw-Dropping design, ML guys really nailed it with the XT F100... and boy, they're expensive but just look at that ! 💕
@caesar148
@caesar148 Год назад
Thank you for a great review. I always look forward to your reviews. I am very excited to know that more speaker manufacturers are bringing ultra high performing speakers to the masses. This begs the question, how does this speaker compare to the Arendal 1723 THX tower and the Tekton Pendragon or Double impact 2 ohm speakers.
@jamesmccarthy6743
@jamesmccarthy6743 Год назад
Hello my friends, great review! I’m excited to hear them for myself. I was wondering what your opinion would be, comparing these to the Tekton Pendragons? I’m in the market right now and both of these are right around my speaker budget. These look so much better but I’m speaking just sound wise. Thank you in advance if the two of you happen to answer. Keep up the great work!
@phillipknox5010
@phillipknox5010 Год назад
What a great review - honestly can't recall when you have been more excited in your presentation.
@maxcat479
@maxcat479 Год назад
Mad news...Audiolab 7000A...just getting used to news of the 9000A....Hope that you will be dropping some reviews...Thanks in advance...😁
@niveketihw1897
@niveketihw1897 Год назад
I'd still like to find a replacement for the Adam Audio Column Classic Mk3 Active -- active crossover with four amps in each tower (total power 650W RMS / 1000W peak), an AMT tweeter (2800Hz and up), an AMT midrange (800Hz to 2800Hz), a 7.5" cone woofer (150Hz to 800Hz), and another 7.5" cone woofer with no high pass filter. Having the AMT driver set go down to 800Hz, and having the crossover before the amps are what, for me, made this tower significantly better than this ML Motion speaker. Beautifully revealing and non-fatiguing.
@richardquiles9877
@richardquiles9877 Год назад
Can the Marantz 40N make the F100 bring out that wide soundstage.
@davidscheuneman6126
@davidscheuneman6126 Год назад
Hey Andy and Christie, I wanna say up front I fricken Love your channel. I've been watching your channel for a couple year's now. It was because of your reviews that I purchased a set of Klipsch RP-8000F'S for my home theater and a Audio Technica LP-140XP turntable for my LP needs. I was going to purchase the Polk R700's but tried a set of Heco Aurora 1000's for my music listening needs. Wow! I love these Heco's!!!!! I gotta ask, can you two please get a set of the Heco Aurora 1000's to review??? Love to hear your comments about them and I'm sure your viewers would enjoy that review. As for the Martin Logans, I think they knocked it out of the park on design. If I was in the market I would of give them a try. Keep up your wonderful channel as I am a forever fan 👍🏻.
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