Rise of Flight "The Death of the Red Baron" 

i love The Red Baron and i honor him for his amazing work of airial combat

Manfred really was the best fighter pilot of WW1. And Germany seemed to be the country with the best fighter pilots that ever existed. During world war 2, even though Germany was under Hitler's control and German lost at the end again, their pilots achieved a lot of victories on aerial combat.

That's mostly due to the fact the pilots had to serve throughout the war and fight until their last breath. Germany's claims in WWII were also exaggerated in the name of morale - something the nazis excelled at. As for Richthofen being the best pilot of WWI. He had the highest number of downed aircraft but other pilots were rapidly catching up when the armistice was signed. The bottom line is he didn't survive the war whereas other aces did.

elaine evans "Many of the aerial tactics and maneuvers he invented are still used today." False. Actually it was his mentor Oswald Boelcke who laid the foundation for aerial tactics and fighting. The Immelmann turn is named after Max Immelmann. What maneuver is named after Richthofen? Please do tell.

TheIronDuke W. Him "not surviving the war" it's not an argument to discredit him. On the contrary, him managing to fight for so long despite being on the losing side, flyinng against a numerically superior enemy that increasingly better aircraft, being wounded in the head yet continuing flying missions till his last breath makes him even more remarkable than the pilots who were on the winning side and didn't had to endure as many hardships as him. No other pilot was as feared and respected as him back then.

Legend27 Yes and they did a right thing. He deserved that.

Thank ya for blessing my country!

Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI

VIZE chxie not funny didnt laugh

Shame it wasn't the only time he was buried ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-icnG7ozhTLU.html

TheIronDuke W. the funny thing is that many WWI pilots had "unfitting" deaths. Albert Ball crashed his plane after being confused in cloud cover, Lothar von Richthofen and Godwin von Brumowski died as passengers in civil aviation crashes, Oswald Boelcke collided with a squadronmate, Max Immelmann's interrupter gear failed, and Mick Mannock and Francesco Barraca were shot down by ground fire like the Baron.

The front was fluid, moving and the Australian were also on the move and this caused delays in the reports of the various claims and in the meantime credit was given to Brown before all the reports arriving from the battlefield were taken into account.

Please provide proof that Brown was credited with the kill.

TheIronDuke W. Nice quote. You got that word for word from another video, I just watched it before clicking on this one.

His enemy's had to give him his honour!

+Styrene Panzer And what was his rule?

+marcus porter Not to dive after stalled or damaged enemies. I would guess, I have no source.

+Styrene Panzer Common for quite a lot of Aces both in WW1 and WW2.

+Charlieignatious Wow, That's Interesting And To Me Sad.

It wasn't in the Dicta Bolcka so I'm sure it wasn't one of his rules.

For what? Fighting for the wrong cause. Germany started the War. And they died along with the rest of Europe. The Kaiser wanted a war long before the assassination. Lived a long, peaceful life. He had a withered arm from birth. Stalin did too. A mixed up world we die in.

carpe diem i really hate ignorants like you, “oH hE wAs FiGhTiNg FoR tHe WrOnG cAuSe” He was clearly serving his country.

@@1zc5 Yeah, but what a dumb cause it was. They all died young, while the Kaiser, who started the damn war, lived a long and healthy life.

carpe diem true many died young, sad reality of wars

@@1zc5 At the very least, the Kaiser should have been executed. The Tsar of Russia was executed for his bungling incompetence, and rightly so. There is a difference between a Just war and how it is proceeded.

that and 80 is a nice number to end off on, it was the most amazing thing at the time, and i agree with your theory

+Stevonnie Jenkins actually if memory serves correctly Manfred was keeping count of how many kills he achieved by having silver cups made as well as collecting the serial numbers of the aircraft he shot down as well as other parts, he had a light shandolear in his quarters that was made from a rotary engine, put light bulbs in each of the open cylinders, he had some 60 cups made, i think around 63 if memory serves correct but i could be wrong, then they ran out of silver to make the cups for him, so i think after that he stopped counting, not sure... It is vary likely after so long Manfred had shot down so many, and was so far in the lead that he didn't even care to count anymore, it is possible that he shot down more than 80, and his squad mates may have likely went with 80 because that is at least what he shot down. he could have shot down over 100 if he had survived, he died in April of 1918, the war continued on for roughly 6-7 months later. Rene Fonck was next after him a french with 75 victories, but not much is know about him, he is sort of over shadowed by Georges Guynemer despite the fact Guynemer had less victories he was more respected as Fonck was arrogant and not very much liked.

Agreed. He was horrified by the slaughter on the ground as well and chose to maybe die fighting down there.

In his bio, he mentions his hatred towards the war and regrets joining.

Why do you got to be such a windbag?

Man from Nantucket Reports also say he spoke 2 German words before dying. No one knows what they were, since no one spoke German.

Chris Hansen they say he muttered "I am broken" but his last words that are known for sure is before he left on that mission "What's wrong do you think I'm not coming back"

Nicholas Bryan Deep. Thanks for that info

It's possible people are looking at this all wrong. His reason for landing may not have been because of the hit to his body, which could have happened at any point after he committed to landing.

@@chrishansen456 One word and they knew, Kaput. As he landed he throw his goggles off as the plane bounced to a stop, a soldier ran up and picked up the goggles and then ran on to the plane. The goggles came into the collection of the best writer on the subject and were sold at auction after the authors death, along with all the other objects he had of the Red Baron's from that last flight. It was about 30 objects from the plane to items the Baron had on him, including a large mark bill; this was sold around 2004 at auction. I wish he would have given them to the museum on aviation in Washington DC. That author tracked down all the living witnesses and items in the 40s-50s and 60s and got most of the ground accounts together from that day.

haha i get that

Why would think snoopy will him down?

Sparks Sparks production there was a psp game featuring snoopy shooting manfred

I don't what game it was, but now it was a game.

irk..........

@moggykirby yeah

Another version is that the hit by ground fire idea was resisted to maintain his image.

@moggykirby The bullet exited through the left nipple, making it unlikely to have hit his upper right arm.

@moggykirby se my opinion above. Shot while unconsious in his cockpit .

Well said. Bravo Herr Richtofen.

Alexander Seldes Your reaction to his comment just made me cry out of laughter😂😂

tu avioneta es estupida

One of the best comments in RU-vid history.

Jonathan Thorsen Since when are Germans a ''jerry''?

It's boelcke not "volecke"

Yuri DeKhed: They were actually considered Knights of the Sky,and the Germans held onto that idea all the way. They had serious rules of engagement and adhered to them.

Did I say anything about where on his targets Manfred von Richthofen aimed? I never even mentioned him. I merely spoke of how their country viewed them. As Knights of the Sky. Von Richthofen didnt only aim for the pilot's heads,he also said he aimed for the observer's as well. I am well versed on his life and career,thank you. Though I do know more about WWII Germany and it's military. (Oh,..I just realized,your a troll)

Yuri DeKhed: Somme sort of Chivalry isnt the only type of Chivalry. When he had downed a plane,if the pilot were alive,he didnt kill them then. Which is why,as I mentioned,he was angry with his brother for doing so. If you dont care for my reply,just ignore it. And,..no,I'm not a bit slow on the uptake.I'm just never on the lookout for trolls.They have no knowledge,they just annoy.

Yuri DeKhed: Umm,..I havent seen it and really have no plan to. Obviously you have. From it's trailers,it seemed a bit to,..to,..like something out of a comic book for my taste. Although when I was in Germany four years ago,I heard that "Der Rote Baron" got good reviews there. They seemed to stand behind it. Personally,I tend not to watch movies about Historical figures.They are mostly for entertainment,and rarely accurate. As to Chivalry,that's relative.Each person's perception of it can differ greatly.It would seem ours differ quite a bit. The fact that Manfred had problem with his brother is recorded in his mother's memoirs. You might want to read that for more information on Manfred. Now,..if you plan to keep trying to get a rise out of me,it wont do you any good. I have dealt with much worse than you can deal out on tumblr. And I won all my battles there. This is just amusement for me.

Yuri DeKhed: Oh,..you again. My perception of Chivalry is different than yours. Period. I,..oh,..wait. I forgot I was talking to a bored poor old troll. ZZzzzzz,..snore,...

People found the excuse of his head wound, he got some 20 more kills before his ultimate demise, more than likely, he knew exactly where he was, and he knew exactly what he was doing, he just wanted to die in combat, and it didn’t matter to him anymore, his writings from the time just before his death basically displays this, he was just depressed and couldn’t have a normal life afterwards, his head wound hadn’t healed, and he felt he was a murderer, plain and simple.

Yes, he was a true hero in his own right. I'm a proud Aussie and am open-minded enough to afford him that honour.

i did it is no shame

Nope. The bullet killed him in less than half a minute.

ChannelNotFound How was that determined?

Interesting. I think it was the gunner's SHARED kill.

Not likely with a rifle bullet in your body. You are going into shock very fast and not thinking much. George Orwell of 1984 fame described being shot in the Spanish Civil War, he was sniped in the neck...it ain't Hollywood.

194853DodgeTrucks that is an interesting thought but cannot be considered as realistic because the medical experts have determined that the injury he sustained could not possibly have allowed him to live any longer than 20 seconds, just barely enough time for him to land the plane. Eyewitnesses have confirmed he was still alive when he landed, although only for a few seconds.

Broken Radio its called rise of flight (the simulation)

XD

I think we have his boots too, or anyway the boots he took off some pommie he shot down.

He said something like "kaput"

Alexander Seldes Have to admit that's pretty funny

Or it could've struck something on his Dr.1 and ricocheted back towards him.

The bullet came up from below, his Dr.1 was made almost entirely of wood and fabric so there's little if anything to ricochet off of.

+Reet Haar Maybe He Was Saying He Broke Something Like A Bone From The Hard Landing

James Kidd 100 years ago, so long but feels so short

He landed it intact. There was no crash.

You are right. Von Richthofen flew a considerable distance after Brown gave up the chase.

They do care actually.

It was Brown... it’s all over both my books and the Internet, if you’ll do your research.

Sorry but even the Canadian Govt has conceded that Von Richtofen has killed by ground fire and Sgt Popkin has been officially credited with downing Von Richofen.

That's bullshit Sam. The Canadian government would never concede he was killed by ground fire when the question will probably never be known for certain.

+Scott Pedroley "phenomenal feat" indeed...for WW1. Did you know the highest scoring fighter pilot of all time shot down 352 aircraft"? That's more than 4 times MvR's feat. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking him, I am an amateur WW1 aviation historian, and just pointing out a fact. The fact he did that in such flimsy aircraft with no parachute is quite a feat indeed.

+sopwithpuppy but did they do it in the ww1 planes which are just dangerr=ous to fly in let alone high g spins

dayal Williams I mentioned that it was a phenomenal feat FOR WW1. Didn't you read that bit? I am an amateur WW1 aviation historian, and I got "into it" through the feats of Luftwaffe pilots of WW2, thinking about how incredible their feats were, and my friend suggested I look at WW1 for the very reason you suggested. It's difficult enough merely FLYING the wood, string and canvas "crates" of WW1, let alone stunting in one, or twisting and turning to avoid being shot out of the sky.

Snoopy was a nickname for Roy Brown.

Ya

Is that the only point that matters to you? It's an interesting story none the less.

+TomTodd 774 "I don't trust CNN because LITERALLY NOBODY knows what CNN stands for." "It stands for Cable News Network." "Could be. Literally nobody knows." "It IS true, though? CNN has said so many times." "They may have. But it's so scary how NOBODY knows." Saying 'nobody knows' despite several tons of evidence and pretending the evidence is only 'hypothetical' doesn't make it true that nobody knows.

Evidence pretty well proves it was Popkin. Established as far back as 1968.

We do know that the most likely candidate is Australian machine gunner, Cedric Pompkin. But even Pompkin said the world would likely never know for certain.

@@gramioerie_xi133 ok

true

Maxwell Harris he was Gunner Snowy Evans, not Private. Besides, it's most likely that it was Sergeant Popkin who fired the fatal round.

Maxwell Harris no

Eeerr... and how can you be so sure, may I ask? If these images are loyal to what really happened, in every single small detail, then Manfred climbing to the right by 4:53 might have been the right position for Brown´s bullets to hit the German ace, according to the description at the very end, so that gives credence to the British pilot as well. After all, the Camel pilot was flying a bit lower than the German at that moment- at least in these images. Still, this will remain a mystery forever... Let´s say that it´s a "shared kill".

Alan you think this cartoon video is accurate. Get a grip.

Not the same war :/

I've read it wasn't his flying abilities, but his shooting that was so gifted (obviously they play hand in hand)

Hartmann himself didn't feel he was as good a pilot as others. He simply had a tactic that worked, and he repeated it 352 times against bombers and other Russian aircraft usually flown with little creativity. He felt that Marseille, flying in the West against Brits and Americans, was a much better pilot, and that his personally higher score was against an inferior enemy. Also, he didn't die, adding that tragic/romantic element to the story.

Steve Boose The source of this claim?? Any links you can provide or are you just asserting something out of the blue? No pilot worth his name would ever say something so ridiculous so I'm going to call BS on that one. Hartmann shot down IL-2 attack planes and said: "a Shturmovik IL-2, which was the toughest aircraft to bring down because of the heavy armor plate. You had to shoot out the oil cooler underneath, otherwise it would not go down." As for "little creativity". Not what Hartmann himself said: "One situation comes to mind. I was in a duel with a Red Banner flown Yak-9, and this guy was good, and absolutely insane. He tried and tried to get in behind me, and every time he went to open fire I would jerk out of the way of his rounds. Then he pulled up and rolled, and we approached each other head on, firing, with no hits either way. This happened two times. Finally I rolled into a negative G dive, out of his line of sight, and rolled out to chase him at full throttle. I came in from below in a shallow climb and flamed him. The pilot bailed out and was later captured. I met and spoke with this man, a captain, who was a likeable guy." Interesting. Now you provide links to your dubious claims or be quiet. You'd make a more valid comparison comparing Hartmann with the French WWI ace René Fonck - both of which understood what aerial warfare really came down to and both of which had a no-nonsense approach to war.

Any excuse to read through "The Blond Knight of Germany" again! I'll get the quote and get back to you on that. ;-)

@Yuri DeKhed So, no proof then.

@Yuri DeKhed Please do,I would very much appreciate it.

That is because there was no pilot who was better then him.

That’s true!! “Broken “ or Busted!! Is what He Said!!

Threetails Yes, this video is wrong.