Rise of the Swiss Warriors and Mercenaries 

Yees but pls do one on their method of warfare?

Kings and Generals merry Christmas! Thanks for the video! I also got this monster www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Dread-Saurian-2018

Make a video on maratha empire..

A remark. Why did you put "Tisino" on the map? Is there any source about that name? It is actually the northern part of the modern day Canton of Ticino (italian-speaking canton) and that is more or less the modern District of Leventina Valley. P.S. Also both Rudolph and Leopold weren't emperors. Rudolph was a king of Germany (not emperor) and Leopold was a duke of Austria.

Cuman-Kipchak invasion of Europa and battle of Kerles please

HAHAha .

Where this quote come from, I allready heard it?

Nice

Buuuuuurn!

mr_ anheuser i rephrased it a litle but im glad you catched it, i thought its fiting seing as some swiss are french speakers ;)

Yep, I knew that one. First version, he shouted "I will make you a way - take care of my wife and children!" Second version: "Stop pushing, assh*le!" That's how the story is told in the canton of Berne.

hahahahaha too funny

@@swissmilitischristilxxii3691 Did you push him onto enemy pikes?

Although I wish the first version was true, I like the second version much better 😂

Whispers quietly, it was a Solothurner, who shoved Winkelried; he was standing on a 5 Rappen stuck 😂😂

Si vis pacem para bellum. If you want peace. Prepare for war!

Not even neutral.

Kasino Kaiser As à swiss guy, I agree.

Like the dutch

@TheGreaterGood80 Not realy the today Cantons of Vaud, Argovia, Ticino and others were dependen colonies at first.

Best bubble gum joke on RU-vid. ROFL

Such an underrated comment

I’m actually kinda dying from this one, pretty witty

Only b/c every other video is "will you cover X, Y, Z...and also Q, R, and M?? PLEASE?!"

I feel like Kings and generals is making documentaries of every total war game I've played and i LOVE it! I just wish they would do one period of time at a time.

Metrack well to be fair this is the Middle Ages and per the rules *pulls out Da Rules* peasant levy exist to be run down by their betters... unless their Welsh Bowmen... or Scottish Shieldtrons. Since the Swiss are neither Welshman nor Scottish I’m afraid that’s one Red Card and 30 minutes in the Penalty box.

fucking cheaters!

Matt Ellis Skallagrim: Shoots crossbow bolt at cheap and crappy reproduction of early plate armor. Armor: Breaks bolt & has a small dent. So basically here’s how the scenario should’ve went: Farmer: Shoots knight with crossbow Knight: The twig falls on the ground and the knight puts down his visor. “You scratched my beautiful breastplate... I’m gonna kill you peasant!” Takes out a war hammer with nasty looking spikes. Farmer: “Gulp...” Attempts to load another bolt, but the horse closes the distance. “...Oh Go-“ Knight: Leaves a large hole in the farmer’s head.

@@kinglouiev9530 Yeh- but what made the crossbow and bow such a potent weapon is that it was used with mass effect; many people could be armed and tought fairly easily about how to use the weapon so on a battle field knights had to be careful of thousands of arrows that might find its mark. However knights were very effective even with that problem for example the French knights won alot of battles against the English heavily focused archer army.

Of course the knights code says that fighting your enemy on an open field is the most honorable. It's not like an open field with no obstacles is the best place for heavy cavalry. Which knights are.

Halberdiers !!!! When i think about clocks , knives and all this Swiss, metal stuff, I see halberdiers. Real Clockwork Orange.

Wait I just saw you in fire of learning

you have to learn the way of the pike at a young age with a small pike

I'd like to point out a misconception at 12:44. The idea that pikes held upright gave considerable protection against arrows is a misconception, and comes from historical misinterpretation or exaggeration of the abilities of the Macedonian pike formations to deflect arrows. IIRC, this idea comes from Polybius' writings and is only based on a single sentence, where he simply says that the long pikes were carried at an angle was able to deflect "some" arrows from reaching the "rear" of the pike formation. In this situation, only the very rear soldiers would have a "small" amount of protection against missiles (eg. arrows and javelins), and really just against missiles shot at a flat trajectory (high trajectory or arced arrows would've bypassed going through the ranks of pikes). The soldiers in the front and middle would have zero to negligible additional protection provided by pikes from even flat trajectory fired arrows. If we do a few hypothetical calculations of the surface area the pikes could've protected against based on their diameter and the width of each soldier & their spacing, and even in the best case scenario, the additional protection against arrows is tiny overall and still rather small for soldiers in the rear. And if European medieval archery tactics (see scholagladiatoria video) was any indication of ancient archery tactics, then shooting shooting at a flat trajectory at the enemy's front ranks would have been most common. This was followed by occasional cases of shooting arrows in an arc that may have landed in the enemy's back ranks. Neither would allow pikes to be of any use against arrows. Archers would not be shooting at a flat trajectory over the enemy's front towards the enemy's rear unless they missed their shot. So the only way the phalangite pike would have protected against the arrows is if the enemy archers missed their flat trajectory straight shot at the phalangite's front ranks, and the arrow was flying towards the phalangite's rear ranks and got bounced around by the pike shafts. So the shafts of long pike-length polearm units only contributed marginal protection against arrows for the units in the rear, and really did not make polearm soldiers highly resistant to missile fire. That is why Macedonian pikemen actually carried a shield strapped to their arm. Furthermore, IIRC, the Swiss pike formations had some important differences from the Macedonian formations. Swiss pike formations were organized into more flexible infantry blocks of pike formations that incorporated many different types of soldiers within the formation itself and were basically self sustaining combat units. If they were surrounded, they could form into a pike square with pikes facing all directions and other infantry within the formation providing support or ranged fire. If a Macedonian phalanx was surrounded and flanked, then it would crumble much more easily due to its more homogeneous nature. I've also never read the Macedonian phalanx having the ability to protect its rear/flank by forming into an infantry square and extending pikes in 4 directions.

Gruyere (cheese with holes in it) is also Swiss :p

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 lets you picture it in your head

History march channel is even more detailed especially making the troops much more Mobile

No point in that unless there are records of unit movements in the battles. Animated speculation is pointless. Morgarten should have something I suppose.

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 How is it not? Swiss became the elite of the elite mercenaries of all European armies. That's why the Vatican has Swiss guards

@@KelGhu Current Vatican Swiss Guards is a joke

Schweizerische Konföderation. Eidgenossenschaft is not a synonym for Confederation.

@@sandro3211 It may not be a synonym for it, but it was still called Eidgenossenschaft.

@@sandro3211 "Eidgenossenschaft" is the original German term, and the Latin "confoederatio" is pretty close to it.The English term "confederation" has drifted away somewhat by not emphasizing the "foedus" any more.

@@sandro3211 I just looked at my passport and identitycard, and I can confirm, I'm still a citizen of the Schweizerische Eidgenossenschaft.

Any army knows the term "reconnaissance in force" or "reconnaissance by combat. For a more modern example: There exists multiple variants of main battle tanks as recon vehicles.

PING HER ABOUT TOYS

Switzerland: the only area in Europe in Empire Total War where you can’t go.

Speaking of pikes, the idea that pikes gave considerable protection against arrows (12:44) is a common misconception, and comes from historical misinterpretation or exaggeration of the abilities of the Macedonian pike formations to deflect arrows.This idea comes from Polybius' "Histories," and is only based on a single sentence, where he simply says that the long pikes were carried at an angle was able to deflect "some" arrows from reaching the "rear" of the pike formation. No other ancient or medieval writers who wrote about pike formations repeated this claim. In this situation, only the very rear soldiers would have a "small" amount of protection against missiles (eg. arrows and javelins), and really just against missiles shot at a flat trajectory (high trajectory or arced arrows would've bypassed going through the ranks of pikes). The soldiers in the front and middle would have zero to negligible additional protection provided by pikes from even flat trajectory fired arrows. If we do a few hypothetical calculations of the surface area the pikes could've protected against based on their diameter and the width of each soldier & their spacing, and even in the best case scenario, the additional protection against arrows is tiny overall and still rather small for soldiers in the rear. And if European medieval archery tactics (see scholagladiatoria video) was any indication of ancient archery tactics, then shooting shooting at a flat trajectory at the enemy's front ranks would have been most common. This was followed by occasional cases of shooting arrows in an arc that may have landed in the enemy's back ranks. Neither would allow pikes to be of any use against arrows. Archers would not be shooting at a flat trajectory over the enemy's front towards the enemy's rear unless they missed their shot. So the only way the phalangite pike would have protected against the arrows is if the enemy archers missed their flat trajectory straight shot at the phalangite's front ranks, and the arrow was flying towards the phalangite's rear ranks and got bounced around by the pike shafts. So the shafts of long pike-length polearm units only contributed marginal protection against arrows for the units in the rear, and really did not make polearm soldiers highly resistant to missile fire. Short polearms would be even worse for this purpose.That is why Macedonian pikemen actually carried a shield strapped to their arm. Furthermore, IIRC, the Swiss pike formations had some important differences from the Macedonian formations. Swiss pike formations were organized into more flexible infantry blocks of pike formations that incorporated many different types of soldiers within the formation itself and were basically self sustaining combat units. If they were surrounded, they could form into a pike square with pikes facing all directions and other infantry within the formation providing support or ranged fire. If a Macedonian phalanx was surrounded and flanked, then it would crumble much more easily due to its more homogeneous nature. I've also never read the Macedonian phalanx having the ability to protect its rear/flank by forming into an infantry square and extending pikes in 4 directions. Alexander's Macedonian phalangites relied heavily on external support units (support units actually made up the majority of the army), and the degradation of support units was a primary factor in the erosion of its combat effectiveness of the Successor States by the time they came into conflict with the Romans.

In WW2 the Japanese used a staff with an explosive head that detonates at contact. They used it against tanks.

Teufer2 only good again light tanks, and it mostly used to destroy the tracker chain so that infantry would swoop in and surround the tank and neutralize the crew with grenade. It also extremely dangerous toward the users ao it is the desperate measure only. The Vietnamese use it during the very short first few weeks or months of the First IndoChina war against the French and the death/inability to fight toll the users were high that they decided to get rid of the method and develop their own anti-tank weapon instead.

We got flying guided pikes now

Well yes, after we nuke each other back to the stone age, people will soon rediscover the usefulness of pointy things on long sticks.

Tarik Al-Hoshan Even if you lose, you still fight...

Cegesh We've allways been. In the meanwhile, what about earning some coins while training,..

Caspar I find it more cringy to cringe at someone national pride, but anyway...

Cegesh Actually, if you want to join the french foreign legion, you just need a derogation from the federal council. And the papal guard is still composed of swiss soldiers, 500 years later.

I got a diffrent opinion about the mandatory service. But cool to see others with swiss pride rare thing to hear about in a non politikal way.

hillbilly german (and other languages) seems about fitting for us back then lol

@@youriefavre9003 It was majority german back then, now it is this way because many cantons were integrated in the confederaion (such as grisons, geneve...) There is map in the video about switzerland in 1400's it is like 85 percent german

Fun fact: The Habsburg Family originated from Switzerland

Not Your business : Up to 1268, the whole allemanic/ swabian region was the duchy of swabia. From ther came the Habsburg family , the Hohenzollern family and the no more existing Hohenstaufen family!!!

Austrians speak weird hillybilly german themself.

Others: "We're surrounded by the enemy!" Swiss: "We can attack in every direction!"

@@vampire4312 Others: We have no chance! They are so many! Swiss: They have no chance! They are so many! They can not all flee from us!

outnumbered swiss be like : LETS FUCKIN GOOO !

Yeah he was he was emperor from 1658 to 1705

@@joshuamoore7583 Morgarten was 1315. The Leopold I at that time was a duke. You are confusing two different Leopolds.

@@joshuamoore7583 You are referring to Leopold 1 Holy Roman Empire but this is Leopold the glorious in the 14th century. The Habsburg family were originally Swiss.

The Swiss-Swabian wars in which another von Habsburg was humiliated and a few German knight armies fled, yes it was against Maximillian I the Swiss defeated his Swabian and Bavarian knights..one army fled before battle..also Vorarlberg was blundered finally German emperor Maximillian pleaded the Swiss for peace....and he was holy Roman emperor..

Until battle of Marignan ;) France took its revenge and destroyed thereputation of invincibility of Swiss Mercenaries.

There's a chapel at Sempach, where they painted the coat of arms of all the Nobles that were slain on the battlefield.

chocolate from mexico watches from france .

@@alex3987654 Fucking Artillery :(

@Rafael Acosta The Nazi Gold didn't have an impact on Swiss Economy btw.

I reckon it was more of a case no horse could carry those massive brass balls they all had 😂

@@lukeclarke267 :D

Also we think they are rather tasty.

Dont get high on your own supply

The Swiss had a very small fraction of their Forces consist of mounted troops, but those were usually more or less mounted infantry serving as Scouts.

and we would glady welcome you. Our Irish brothers ;-)

Along with the Scots & Serbians the Swiss & Irish were the most fearsome & die hard fighting men in Europe for centuries, while it wasn't unusual for the ferocious Irish Gallowglass to fight until the last man (of the era 1300-1600). The Scots Highlanders could also be real animals in combat, both savage & formidable. The Swiss were amazing in their morale & cohesion in the ranks!

Knights Templars founded Switzerland in 1291 which was not mentioned by K&G surprisingly. They passed on knowledge from their experiences fighting in the Crusades to the people of Switzerland which is THE reason the Swiss were so formidable. The wars discussed in this video were as a direct result of the Templars growing power which the Pope and European monarchs wanted to curtail (and steal their considerable wealth of course). The absence of these facts makes this video a propaganda piece rather than a historical documentary. Very disappointing 👍🏻

@@LuisAldamiz As the basques shouted "When you arrive to hell, tell the Devil it was the basques who sent you, cur!". That'll teach him and his uncle to burn Iruña

@@LuisAldamiz I know, I was making a playful/humourous remark. Though I do belive the was some recent discovery regarding the basque ambush at Orreaga that showed it was a carefully planned action rather than some farmers throwing rock at them. Also, let us not forget that the french (or franks, cant remenber who) changed the version to an army of sarracens many times bigger than the frankish rear guard. Still, you dont burn Iruña and expect the basques to cower down

Burgundians actin' all baller and shit, 'till the mountains start bristling with pikes and screaming in Swiss. And about fifty other languages.

Why

Never judge a book by its cover.

@@maxx1014 maybe because they always neutral in wars, hiding somewhere in hills. but dont get me wrong, maybe it is very smart to stay neutral

@@Izaugsme.TipuTapu tfw people only know some countries history when they participated in war in the 20th century lmao

​@@maxx1014 Maybe he's from another part of the world, and his knowledge is centered around that. I'd bet your knowledge is centered around your home region. I know mine is.

Love your country. Swiss are bulky strong people. Was in Geneva last week.

as a chinese

@@PaulRamone356 eat cheese my friend.

@@OCinneide nope Pacific islander.

There is an anime called "Hetalia" were every country is personified as a human character. In the anime movie the world is invaded by aliens but you see Switzerland and Liechtenstein just chilling in the field with the alps in the background. Next shot is the swiss border were the aliens try to invade Switzerland but are blocked by a force field that reads. "Neutral Zone"

@@Teufer2 The Precise moment of True Perfection !

@@Teufer2 Reminds me of a video I saw here just a week ago of an all AI Hearts of Iron battle with modded in aliens. All Earth nations struggled fighting them and occasionally they started in Germany with invading Earth and touched the Swiss border a few times but never made it over the border. Was really hilarious.

Until you try to invade. We don't quite like being invaded.

Owen Ishii Yeah swiss people won't ever let some dickheads ruling them and telling them what to do. Thats why we also will never join the EU :)

@@DexM47 And when they were not repelling invaders, they were fighting each other.

That describes most of Europe during the Dark Ages through the Medieval. Actually it kept up into the 1800's.

Only the Scots & Irish were fiercer & more warlike.

We also have our military issued assault rifle at home. Since military service is mandatory, a lot of homes in Switzerland have assault rifles ;)

Al Caulique sounds like America except for mandatory service lol

Don’t forget that they have secret air bases inside mountains, whenever they are ready they fly out and surprise the invaders

@@Knightguy18 Except for the fact that since a couple of years ago we can't have ammo at home. (There are some exception there)

@@AP-yx1mm That's the theory indeed... ;)

Man forgot IWC under best watches. Still can't agree more with you. Sadly the Swiss army now doesn't want Sig high quality rifles but low quality HK dog shits which can't fire straight if it's not exactly 26.3536372°

@ShogunBean Because if you payed attention, he mentioned OTHER soldiers in the formation, not just ones using pikes. Alexander the great didn't just beat the Persians with Phalangitoi, he had large numbers of missile troops of his own (archers and slingers) and a strong cavalry contingent. The Swiss likewise used crossbowman and other missile troops in conjunction with their pikemen and halberdiers.

​@ShogunBean You have confused your own poor knowledge of history with my supposed "blathering." First, Alexander's Macedonian army was never an army composed entirely of pikes. Pezhetairos/phalangite pIkemen only made up about a third of Alexander's army. He had archers, slingers, cavalry, and lots of support infantry operating in their own formations alongside pikemen. The Macedonians had maybe a quarter of their army composed of light infantry skirmishers such as archers, slingers, and peltasts. If you actually read about how the Macedonians fought the Persians, you'd know that the Macedonian skirmishers often engaged the Persians skirmishers with an exchange of ranged fire first. At the battle of Gaugamela, after any initial skirmisher exchanges, the Macedonian pikemen aggressively advanced on the Persians before the Persian archers could do much damage. The Persians at Gaugamela fought defensively and the Macedonians advanced aggressively with their pikes, support heavy infantry, and cavalry. Second, the number of archers in the Persian army is often exaggerated by pop culture. During the time of Alexander, the Persians didn't have that many archers in the first place because archery is actually an elite combat skill that takes years to master. At Gaugamela, only a small fraction of the Persian army are named to specifically be archers. Third, the Macedonian shield was 2 feet in diameter and covered most or all of the human torso. It was not "tiny." During Philip II's days, it's believed that many phalangites didn't even wear torso armor because the shield was able to protect their torso and they or the state possibly weren't able to afford torso armor for everybody. Torso armor does show up during Alexander's day as primarily linothorax armor made of linen fabric. Fourth, I specifically pointed out that the Germans and Swiss pike formations incorporated other units (eg. archers, crossbowmen, and later muskets) into their formation. Ranged fire was clearly important to Renaissance era pike formations at fighting other pike formations and enemies. That is a crucial difference that differentiates the homogeneous Macedonian pikemen that relied on external support units from heterogeneous mixed arms Renaissance era pike formations. Finally, academia does not claim that pike formations give "considerable protection" at blocking arrows. The idea that pikes are good at protecting against arrows comes from the exaggeration/misquoting of a single sentence from Polybius where he says the pikes could provide a small amount of protection for the rear lines. The problem is pop culture readers like yourself don't read the primary source and exaggerate and misinterpret these ideas based on casual, uncited online claims. My views conforms with actual readings of history and academia. Your views that comes from superficial pop-culture reading and misinterpretation of history are what is wrong.

@@Intranetusa thanks for your intriguing and thoroughly argued comment. Always great to see people challenging the accepted norm in history and producing new interpretations.

Thanks for an interesting read.

shake shake it shake my pike like a poloroid pitcure ah ah

More like "pile of force". But "pile of violence" does sound better

@@MrSam1er Hmmm although "Gewalt" and "Kraft" can both mean "force" depending on context, "Kraft" usually refers more to "force" and "Gewalt" is more appropriate for vioelnce". But may only be the case in modern high-german, and may be quite different for old swiss-german which was spoken back then. :)

@@MrSam1er Gewalt means violence on german not force

*and french, and italian, and basically roman latin, and a bunch of other stuff

@@Argacyan Patois. French became such a dominant language much later, when the local languages were banned.

German is the dominant language tho.

Jean, Hochdeutsch (standard or high German) is one of the most spoken languages in Europe with some 90 million native speakers, but Switzerland is linguistically diverse. Schweizerdeutsch (Swiss German) is a dialect spoken by some 4 million people within the country. Occasionally it is used in written form, but Hochdeutsch is the primary written form. There are around 666,000 speakers of Italian in Switzerland, and it is a recognized official language of the country, as is French. Most Helvetians/Swiss can communicate in more than one of the aforementioned languages.

die haue scho ab, wenns denn eus ghöre schnorre

He was holy roman emperor from 1658 to 1705

@@joshuamoore7583 different Leopold

The number could varied, but one of the easily found source stated he brought 7000 infantry and 2000 knights..

Archduke* but yees

@@lmaozedong2259 Just Duke. The Archduchy wasn't created until much later.

Yep, I agree with Nicholas. Back in the time of the three Cantons, Leopold I was just the Duke of Austria. However, some people claim that his father was the HRE for a while before losing the title.

to be precise Leopold I was Duke of Austria AND Styria....as same as his older brother Friedrich (I) III "The Handsome" or "The Fair" however "Der Schöne" in German (he was Friedrich I as Duke of Austria but Friedrich III as german anti-king)...both were Co-Rulers in those duchies...So Leopold wasn´t even the head of the Habsburg-family because that was his older brother Friedrich...So therefore it was simply impossible for him to become more than Duke as long as his elder sibling was alive and Leopold even died 4 years earlier than Friedrich.

or ToBLerone.

Matthew Hall Even better!

Probably more like „For cheese and chocolate!!“ XD (I‘m swiss)

Ovomaltine!

Or Ueli Akhbar, according to some footage of said Ueli firing a rifle

Sopraceneri ❤

jvtagle FOR THE GRACE FOR THE MIGHTS OF THE LORRDD

For the home of the holy.

For the faith for the way of the sword.

Gave their lives so boldly

@@Torus2112 come and tale a Swiss guard story again.

@E. R. Why?

@@hexa-kun4654 they have not arrived yet

@@Harshhaze they will soon

@@gameoflife9576 perhaps they will make a video of it in the next September 27. idk

Glorified donkeys. The polish Infantry often did the hard work for them to come in and mop up the last forces the enemy would have.

I would assume that back then it had another meaning, something like "main force" (Anhäufung der Streitmacht, in a sense). Many words that seem odd to us now in such a context just had a different meaning. However, I don't actually know if this is the case here. Still calling it a pile of violence is probably accurate.

"Gewalt" still in some context hs he wider meaning power, e.g. separation of powers = "Gewaltenteilung". So "Gewalthaufen" is "power block".

agreed on the map part

I'd like that

Well they did no invade actually, they raided and after the Mongol invasion, they were pushed west.

Nonsense

@@Ryan_Winter Maybe. Nevertheless it is interesting to compare de National Flag of Switzerland with its square dimensions, red color, and the white cross to the middle, to the Military Order of Christ (that you can find in the Wikipedia) of Portugal and also to de red cross of de Knights Templar.

Don't forget Polish Cavalry.

Hm, kinda, but they actually don't play to each other's strengths as you'd expect. Also, both are known for defeating French cavalry, yet French heavy cavalry defeated them both into disuse in the end. The Longbows were never used in the continent again after Patay, and Francis I of France defeated the Swiss pikemen so hard they never were used again.

@@gameoflife9576 You're right

@@Altrantis In aTercio, the spearmen shelter the ranged troops. It really depends on how you use them

No enemy for a german knight

well, i always depends how you use your weapons ;-)

I'm guessing here but I thought that it was because of the force when someone rams into the pike. if you hold it down it would drive it into the ground and therefore the pikewall would need be more intact. if everyone has it facing upwards I charging horse can take down an entire section since all the force will be lifted upwards and transfered to the pikes in the back. Again... I dont know if thats the reason or if thats how it works exactly. just my guess

1st Rank: horses legs 2nd Rank: horses body 3rd Rank: horses head + mans body 4th rank: mans head 5th and 6th ranks: reserve and missile wards

My guess is because the pikes pointing down are harder to push aside and they represent a threat to the lower region of anyone trying to chop through the pikes. My guess is the vertical line would actually be further ahead due to geometry, making the downwards line even more difficult to deflect.

Could be weight its kinda hard to hold something straight out for a while.. Its easier to support it up or slouch sorta and a horses vitals are below the shoulders so a low hit would would definitely be fatal. The only other thing i could think is fighting infantry with pole arms It's vital you maintain distance and your leaving that open for you to be rushed.

Somebody could try to dodge under the pikes in effort to disrupt the line. Suicidal yes, but viable option. In movie "Alatriste" someone tries that.

I believe improved/recognised missile use had a big part of that. For instance you would need to put on much heavier armour at much further away (making for an all but impossible march) if you were facing 1000 longbowers from London rather that 10,000 slingers from Crete

@@jacksmith4530 I see. So the missile units that accompanied Macedonian Phalanxes were much less threatening than crossbow/longbowmen and later arqueboisiers who were mixed in with the Swiss Pike formations

Yeah but more threatening due more to way less soldiers in post classical period. The best antimissile is a shock troop which were the expensive Knights in this period and cheep javelineers in the classic period

@@jacksmith4530 Whereas 'less soldiers' is solely broken English at best, 'fewer soldiers' is the acceptable phrase you most likely intended to write down. I assume your mother-tongue is not English.

@@goosequillian fucking what? When someone asks a grammar question we'll all let you know Tom

The entirety of europe begs to differ.

Yeah... until Marignan :p

@@ComradeHellas Britian Occupied us too. Guess who can't look at tea the same anymore.

@@g.h7657 If you are saying france staged themselves choosing to lose battles with the odds in their favor and the swiss leaving no survivors then I'm pretty sure thats a situation getting out of hand and actually called losing control. If you call all that build up, just for Frances' result is for Switzerland to have right to be neutral in to World Wars because of that legacy than what you are saying attempts to make France ways stupider than their actual empires that they built up in history.

@@ComradeHellas if that was true than that would be the biggest backfire in history. Overriding any major revolution.