Rishi Sunak promises more health staff for the NHS but will it cut waiting lists? 

Surprising none of them mention pay issue. Many nurses are leaving NHS because the pay is not good.

Apprentice doctors? Am I misunderstanding something here? Learning how to be a medical doctor is not the same as learning how to run a Pizza place.

Is this the Tory plan to replace the Tory plan for our NHS they made ten years ago.

The golden rule is not to get ill unless you are a polititian or rich!

Does anyone actually believe it when a Tory stands up and "pledges" anything?

As someone who works in the NHS the apprenticeship is currently an absolute joke... this seems to me to be a load of political blah blah blah with little to no substance short, medium or long term by people who sit in ivory towers who have no real concept of what is required or happens at ground zero.

For me personally it is great that they are finally looking increasing the number of NHS staff. However without tackling pay then retention is always going to be a big problem.

The Tories have ruined this country, I worked through covid, over half my co workers were off including the managers. When I heard the claps I kept to myself but I felt nothing but resentment and the beginnings of hate, it’s not the clapping, it’s the knowledge that some of them voted for the systematic destruction of everything they were clapping for. My pay is laughable, my workload doubled, we lost another chunk of our staff this year because they could work at Tesco for the same pay and a third of the responsibilities. They tried to train healthcare workers to do medication by offering them 10p extra an hour, they all refused. The only thing that keeps me going is my remaining team mates, we were completely burnt out a year ago and it has only gotten worse. I understand this is wrong to say but I don’t care anymore, if you vote Tory you are filth. What’s worse is there seems to be no alternative, Starmer appears to be another ‘beat the Tories by becoming them’ leader. No future, accept that all is lost. I will keep working as everything crumbles, I hope everyone that caused / voted for this dies screaming in an empty hospital surrounded by unqualified HCWs that have no idea what to do.

How u gonna recruit when you won’t pay a fair wage?

13 years of broken promises

No addressing of poor pay and working conditions to retain staff. They seem to expect NHS workers to produce more work for worsening pay and conditions while distracting us with all these political slogans about recruitment.

Without getting rid of the very expensive money sinks created by monopolies, middlemen, and middle managers there will never be "enough money" Rishi and his ilk probably get huge donations from said entities so it would be against Rishi's best interests to make changes that amount to real change

keyword "pledge"

Packing their bags after and straight off to Australia

Never trust a Tory

Unbeiveabley insincere

None of this speAkers mentioned about low wages. Am quitting my job after this academic year

You... have... to ... pay... the...staff... an...adequate...amount...in...order...to...attract...and...retain...them! Unloading unexperienced staff in a stressful, poorly paid environment will lead you nowhere!

More public money too the private medical companies

beware "pledges" it's probably billions for a political donor who will help out with running ad campaign....

~132000 NHS staff vacancies, plus ~165,000 Community care vancancies.Successive health ministers have promised 5000 and 6000 more GPs (only 7200 more to go). It's not clear this is intended to fill those, it is certainly not a plan to pay for them!

Pack your bags Rishi.

They are funding new roles which are not supporting doctors, they are creating roles to deal with the demand which are trained in less time BUT that funding is not being given to doctors who want to undertake training to become consultants - which is arguably more expensive, but creates more doctors which have overall more knowledge and responsibility for patient care. This is awful because its stretching doctors thinner and actually reducing the quality of care long term by just adding a lot of small cogs to an unbelievably complicated machine instead of upgrading the parts which are meant to work. This will mean patients will not be able to see an actual doctor over time, keeping them in the system longer than they need to (due to the extra steps being created before they can see a doctor) and undermine the practice of medicine as a whole. This is another major reason for striking aside from pay, as the govt. have purposely created a problem of not investing in doctor/nurse training and increasing supply of medical school places, and instead are hiring more international doctors, and creating new cheaper roles in the nhs which will undermine the profession and reduce the quality of care. Where's our £350 million a week? Doctor's being dragged by this govt. after sacrificing everything during the covid pandemic. The medical professionals in the nhs have been trying to keep it going but this is the last straw, with a mass defect of doctors to other countries pending. All the pay cuts have been a problem created by the government to fix it with privatising under the guise of 'saving the nhs'. The more people realise this, the better.

It’s retention that’s the problem. Fair pay

C4 presenter: "Isn't it your fault though?" Bloke in round glasses: "tut tut, actually butter doesn't melt in my mouth sOoOoOoOo"

Promises and pledges is all we get ,never action or results.

We are after 13 years looking at improving the NHS.

Don't believe a word Sunak says.On 25/10/22 he promised "government integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level" and is yet to deliver. Not my PM.

Just to point out there is a recruitment freeze in most trusts because a lack of money

Let’s train more nurses 🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️ “not pay the ones on the job a bit more”🤯

All I see is panelist suggesting to milk the Goodwill out of existing staff until their souls leave them. The magical pixy dust will re-energize staff to critical levels of overload and we will clap them all the way to the afterlife and speak of their tremendous service. Please choose better people to interview.

More staff means importing nurses from abroad and in Sunaks case it means bring nurses from India. In the past few years my ward of 30 staff has been pretty much turned into a fully Indian staffed ward. Every single nurse is from Kerala India. They are all lovely and hard working, but for a young British lad working amongst them it's become very difficult for me. I have to constantly explain to patients what is being said or explain to the nurses what is happening as they're English isn't as good as required for a medical environment. The Torys created this lack of staff when they removed funding for Nurse training. We all knew this was coming when they did it, so why the big push to pretend they're trying to sort it. JUST REINSTATE THE FUNDING FOR STUDENT NURSES!

I would quadruple the number of doctors and nurses, double their pay, and build a hospital at the end of every street in the country - all just as likely as the £350m a week for the NHS on the side of the Brexit bus!

Promises, promises.

ahahahah, who the f*** is gonna believe a single word they say?

A Promise is a comfort to a fool

Just announce 10000 new staff. Like the 40 new hospitals you do not have to build them.

Why don't the the journalists ever ask the CONservatives, :- "WHERE'S THE MONEY COMMING FROM?"

if you enjoy working where you work we're paying you too much! 😀

Train and employ the migrants on the barges to work in the NHS.

I cannot recall a time when the NHS wasn't in trouble.

How about having a workforce plan for the future.

Do not comply. No to vaccine passports, no to mandatory vaccines. No to masks, no to tests, a total disgrace

Revolutionary plan for £495 million per annum over the next 5 years, i.e. mere £270 per new immigrant per annum assuming steady net inflow at 650,000? So what happened with the money raised by 2.5% NI hike instituted specifically to reduce waiting lists, which according to institute for fiscal studies was supposed to raise £11 Billion for the NHS in 2022 (not to mention the boris bus money)? The words embezelment and banana republic gravy train come to mind.

Does he really knows what is going on in the NHS and the Why of the lack of staffs? Guess what? It’s no the salary😁

As a confirmed "moneyman" with very little experience of running anything other than a WHELK stall,..... sunks idea of MORE NHS STAFF will mean MORE MANAGERS.... The latest NHS employment figures indicate that of the total, ......52% ARE MANAGERS earning in excess of £100k EACK......Thats where sunak will apply his PROMISE !!

I love you channel 4 but to describe the NHS as "struggling" is the understatement of the century. Sounds Tory. Not accusing you of being tory just that's the sought of understating they would do.

This is not going to work . Till pay become good.

Good that the initiative is there, however, the govt has caused the appalling lack of funding, take up for nursing etc I hope there is a living wage for all these people who get into this. They deserve it 🙏🏼

Train more medical staff for the private health sector? Train all you like, until the NHS pays a good rate you'll not retain them. But the plan is, as far as I can see it is, let the taxpayer pay to train staff for private healthcare.

So instead of paying the staff, they are willing to pay recruitment companies instead.

Nursing is the largest workforce yet in your panel they are not represented. Appalling. Drs don’t speak for our profession.

Aye they got offered a £2000 bonus depending on your band and they taxed £800 of it and stuck £420 in a pension and then they had to pay £200 for student loan. After my wife had to pay her overdraft off because of dipping into it to survive the cost of living crisis we were left with £100. I’m running a business as well as doing security work probs working around 70 hours a week she has dropped a day to look after our little girl because child care is basically a wage in itself. The thing that baffles me is the higher the band the bigger the bonus. Those that were on the front line during Covid were the healthcares and nurses which had to endure the psychological bull Sh*t that the media posted on national tv everyday and in the end was it really that bad? Those that sat in the offices get paid more it makes no sense. The NHS is finished. It’s proved it can’t function and clearly the government do not give a sh*t and havnt for years. These clowns have had there run in power get them out before the population have had enough. Don’t think we live in to much of a modern society for a revolution to start because with all the organised crime going on our doorsteps and the lack of support for masses by these bastards who only want to line there own pockets, it wont be stood for for much longer

does this promise replace the other 5 or just become number 6 - in any case training staff takes a few years and those we have now, like everyone else in the country ; is having less in their pocket because of stealth taxes, energy price rip offs, cost of living, inflation etc. to the point where it is not worth working for promotion or bothering to be loyal when you are severely penalised for working and doing the decent thing while others lay around on benefits and illegals turn up and given immediate heated accommodation with free meals - many of whom cannot speak English - what is the point of caring or bothering???????

First stop the war in Ukraine save money u givito Ukraine and help the British ppl

They pledge 2.1 billion but wasted 21 billion during covid

What the professor said is as same as Rishi Sunk did. It's nothing.

Even if they actually did put that money into recruitment why would anyone want to join a crumbling service where the staff are underpaid, undervalued and overworked ? Maybe if the Government used that 2.4 billion to increase the wages and standard the staff shortfall would take care of itself !!

Nurses training should never have been given university degree status as it was. I trained in 1982-85, whilst working on the ward and studying at the same time. By the time i'd finished my first ward placement of 12 weeks I was competent to bed bath, make beds, help feed patients, assisted with a drug round, give intramuscular injections and many more basic nursing competencies, i also observed a few medical emergencies. All of this under the supervision of the ward nurses who were brilliant and we were counted in the nurse staffing and paid a student wage. We were also guarenteed a job in the training trust with the condition that we gave 2 years service post training, which gave us the post qualifiying experience we needed to get a job elsewhere, in anothet NHS hospital. This should apply to all NHS training schemes- if the tax payer pays for training, the trainee should give back a specified length of service.

LOL Give these poor nursing student s that HAVE no idea what they are getting themselves into, they will be wanting to quit in 2 years !

It’s only taken them 13 years to start to take things seriously. It certainly engenders confidence. 😂

"it just isn't right that we don't train enough people here at home to properly staff our national health service" well maybe you should have thought about that before you're government slashed the numbers of doctors and nurses being trained in the UK. Its like employing a plumber to put a new bathroom in, and then after they're finished they say "its just not right that you have water coming through your ceiling. I pledge to halve the amount of water dripping into your living room"

Too late

They always have a plan. That's about as far as they get, then they come up with another plan.

A Tory talks of the funding of the NHS never having been higher, nor has his salary but only one of those things can be believed to be adequate

Extra money isn't the answer, why isn't anyone looking at where the money has gone?

Spend all that recruiting for them to jet off to Dubai as soon as training is finished lol

It will but you will be paid in nuts

If this is to be the future staff... those hospital patients don't look very alive to me.

Ye can I have a dentist please Bupa just closed mine and now nowere is accepting patiiants within 100 miles of me

Come here on a rubber boat you get instant medical care, meanwhile the indigenous population have to wait months or years for treatment. 😡😡😡

Please recruit clinical staff not executive/managerial/ coordinating/ middleman staff.

Indian speaks with forked tongue!

Doctors must only be allowed to administer or prescribe NORMAL potable substances.

Wheres all the money you lost ??? The 21 billion???? Funny how the news doesn't report on that

And who is going to do all this training? Staffing numbers are so low that they’ll not have time to oversee it! Standards of training need to be upgraded too!

How much of this money will be allocated to a Mental Health Services? They don’t have printers 🖨 in their rooms.

stop sending highly valued practical professionals to uni, which is primarily designed for deeply academic study. Somewhere along the line someone decided that uni was privelleged and decided to send everyone to uni.. wrong solution.

The jobs will not be wanted not for 14 pound per hour. For a dr. Disgusting.

The funny thing is 3 of his targets would be settled by doing 1 of them 3 things so thats basically 1 target that he isnt even going to hit then he has 2 others .... stop the boats well you will never actually stop every single boat so that wont ever be hit ever .... the cut waiting list well cut them by what exactly 0.1% like how much we talking here i dont see that as much of a target... even in school you are told to have reachable targets otherwise you wont succeed in any... he has just over a year to hit all them targets and he hasnt succeeded in 1 yet ....

*Can we have more money too ?* *Yours sincerely,* *A migrant from a hotel*

Subak has no plan. He never had or has a plan. That’s the truth.

Here's an idea rishi, make your wife pay the same rate of tax as the rest of us. We are talking 100s of millions in unpaid tax, just by your wife. Then if we taxed all the billionaires we could afford to fix all these problems

Why are you not reporting excess deaths we are up 36000 excess deaths this year 2023 what is going on with channel 4

What’s the point of spending huge amounts of money on training doctors who end up doing part time work, say a couple of mornings per week seeing a very few patients, whilst they rear their young and never do full time work?😊

Where from

The first thing he could do is buy every GP surgery a diary so that staff could look at availability of doctors and appointments. When someone asks for an appointment they could open the diary and say yes we can do 2 oclock next Wednesday, rather than saying ring back tomorrow/next week/next year and enter the lottery of someone answering the phone.

That is right. Make sure that you recruit only English nurses, as nurses from overseas were denied jobs by the government As you ordered employers during Brexit that they should employ English people only which is the reason overseas and Europe people left the country, because they were not given jobs anywhere in England. They are not fools to be treated that way.

Do NOT dare to recruit people from poor countries who need their own medical and nursing staff !

If he is spending all our money on the boat people where is he going to get the money from, taxing us more.

Course the NHS is up the creek with the huge explosion of population here.

Waste of money and empty promises also.

lies

TRY PAYING THE ONES YOUVE GOT !

With this health staff turn up for work though?

The levy isn’t the golden nugget and competition is high against all career groups including engineering.

TRUSS A CONSERVATIVE? YEAH, RIGHT!

As has been pointed out many times, a waiting list is not of direct interest to patients awaiting treatment. What is of direct interest is time to treatment whether it be for acute or surgical need. Whether you're on a waiting list of e.g. 1,000 or 1,500 may not make any difference to when you are treated. So can someone tell this dopy PM to go away and think a bit harder.

Although in “Sunak Speak” double actuality means half.

Will that cover all the ‘incomers’ that arrive every year😂