@@Ninjaaaa9999 No, I haven't said and don't that. Don't put words in my mouth. I have always urged peaceful protest and forbearance. The start of the altercation wasn't shown. There's a chance the old man did something to provoke such a furious response. Can't apportion blame without more information.
@@chunheikong8121 Yea I saw the old dude throw a cheap punch and that was it. I dont know how you can compare that to the horde of youngsters continuously bashing that old dude.
@@Swo882 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5pnV8_HpgwQ.html watch this video and are u still going to tell me that only the youngster inflicted violence to others (SCMP is backed by alibaba if u didnt know )? the chinese were able to berate others without consequences while the younger people are arrested immediately. I am not saying the younger generation had been completely correct in their action , the way they ganged up on people with opinion opposite to them is unacceptable too . This conflict has been on for three months , you cant really say which side is the righteous one . This chaos is never going to resolve unless we seek understanding from both side and make concession.
The silent majority will soon group up and use violence against the violent protestors. That useless woman still refuses to activate the Emergency law and soon people will get killed.
I think the UK and the US governments should give HK rioters political asylum and take them in. After all, these young rioters are fighting for the so- called Western values of "democracy"
Do you think the UK and US would want them?These protestors are deluded.The future of Hong Kong and their future lies with lies with China.It is very true that they have huge problems of very high cost of living and no income increase over the last 15 to 20 years and these problems need to be solved.They cannot be solved by asking to separate Hong Kong from China.In fact it can only be solved by integrating Hong Kong more with the Mainland
Seriously... do you actually think any other countries want them?. Fighting for democracy is one thing, youths violently beating the older, weaker generation is another thing.
One old man attacked by 50 young, very peaceful protestors fighting for democracy, freedom and to PROTECT Hong Kong. All they want is just freedom they said. Yeah! Freedom for themselves, others had to agree with them or else!
@Shabbir Hossain Hong Kong has no oil reserves and USA will not sacrifice their children to die in a war against China. Will you send you children to die for the people of Hong Kong?
The us navy owns a port in hongkong. Hoped you guys knew that. This is to keep the system protected, china of course is threatening them from entering. Which messes with the agreement
It's psychology. Why Zimbardo's prison experiment (though not using masks but tinted glasses/sunglasses) also worked to prove that once someone is granted a form of "anonymity" and becomes part of a "group" they are more likely to leave inhibitions and sometimes morals aside and becoming more reckless and bold.
These young Hong Kong people are so similar to the ones in America. They argue and fight for democracy and freedom but yet cannot tolerate others and result to violence
No one should have right to silence someone else's voice. No one should have right to rip posters on that Lennon Wall. If they have opinion on their own, they should paste their own voice there, NOT rip someone else's .
anything can divide people , sport club , religion , music genre , gender , culture so not only politic anyway ,its human nature since long long time ago
I swear i want to cry seeing many people fight with lots of violence here. And they hit old man. One old man with like 6 young man. How unfair. It creeps me out. Just becoz of this kind of political condition.. Everyone has lost their heart and common sense
a hostile who probably doesn't even speak your language. Come and take close-up pictures, singing his country anthem, cursing ...People don't like that.
Vinh Tran Apparently “people don’t like that” is a valid excuse to gang up on some old timer on the street. If the roles were flipped, you would be saying that the old man was beaten up by gangsters sent/paid by the CCP. I guarantee it.
bluemona Sorry the reality is people are happy about the life that CCP figured out. CCP will help HK people get more living space and more jobs so they wont roit in the name of freedom.
just look in the comments there are so many "pro-democracy" supporters encouraging violence, these are invaluable proof and specimen of rioters using both lies and violence as weapons, unveiling their true nature
@@cohendarwin5365 Wow you sure? I thought old people remember about the Tiananmen Square massacre and the "Great Leap Forward" with 80 million deaths... Oh wait, they remember communist propaganda because the whole country is censored.
I thought I have seen it all but this is special kind of bizarre I have not seen anything like it. Some of those uncles and aunties are just as old as my parents fighting like kids HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Middle age and upper age men and women fighting in huge groups hahahaha!!!
Brougth to you by CIA, MI6, local mafias and brainwashed kids who think that even if they get with power and break apart HK from China, they will get prosperity and development from the west, just like the fools of Ukraine, Lybia, Irak, Afghanistan. Keep dreaming the false promises from my western countries and get divided, weak and enslaved with a country that not even coexist with you in the same continent.
you must be delusional. !.7 millions people came out to support the protest. Only 90k support police. This clearly shows who is the majority. Secondly, definition of HK patriot meaning person who's loyal to HK. This definitely represent the protesters.
@@quyenluong3705 We're talking about majority here. Like I've stated before. There are 1.7 millions people came out for the protest compare with 90k that came out that support the government. So in comparison we can clearly see who have the majority here. Of course you can argue there are people that support the government that didn't came out that day of the protest, but I can also argue there are people that support the anti-government that didn't came out to support the protest. At the end we can only assume that the approximate number based on the number that did came out on each sides protest. So therefore I concluded that there are more people that support the anti-government than the support of the government by the protesters size of their supporter in each protest. And lets not forget the frequency of the protest events that happen by the anti-government group.
I'm sorry whoever's is reading this: i lost my respect for anti-government group. They're destroying their own country and they even hurt their elders?? In the Philippines, we have protested and fought for democracy during Marcos but we never push someone to join our revolution. This is not protesting - it's anarchy.
Yep I completely agree, i may have different opinions with someone, but I settled it with debate, and i do respect his opinion,if he doesn't agree with me that is ok, afterall that is his right as a human.
I used to support Hong Kong protests..but the behaviour of the protesters is too much now. They have to respect the elders and freedom of others too. Protests should be non-violent
It's psychology. Why Zimbardo's prison experiment (though not using masks but tinted glasses/sunglasses) also worked to prove that once someone is granted a form of "anonymity" and becomes part of a "group" they are more likely to leave inhibitions and sometimes morals aside and becoming more reckless and bold.
It's staged BS. Where were all these people for all these months? It's a obvious attempt by mainland to make it look like HK not mainland is upset with protestors for democracy.
How could they hit old man by group of young boys?? my eyes really well up with tears. You young guys did very bad job. One day you will be beaten more than this. Wait and watch.. karma
except they've already been beaten more than this. there still hasn't been confirmation that the 8/31 incident didn't lead to the deaths of some protestors due to police brutality.
What you don’t see at the end, there is another clip showing from the other angle, they also hit the elderly lady at the same time who protected the grandpa in green.
They should've stayed home instead of trying to silence Hong Kong people. Hong Kong is NOT like China, they have a RIGHT to protest, they have freedom of speech. These traitors went to Hong Kong to create trouble, to silence Hong Kong people. They deserve to get beat.
This IS Karma. Many are teenagers fighting to protect the rights and freedoms for them, the old people and the next generations, rights and freedoms Chinese people on the mainland DON'T have. And this old man dares to fight these young people while he defends an abusive government that forced a one child only law among other atrocities. His stupidity brought him this karma.
Lambert Lum that doesn’t mean so many youngsters pounding on a old man. It’s very shameful for these youngsters. I look down on them. Period! Youngsters no character at all and a laughing stock to the whole world. Some just took advantage of the situation to have a free punch on a old man. Police left the scene, without securing it. Did it on purpose? Only they will know.
@@jasonsalz7185 Did I say you can punch someone for poster tearing? Not at all. I am simply pointing out that the pro-Beijing side is trying to silence the pro-Hong Kong side. Democracy is squelched when you deny speech.
Because there are police that are from China, by exposing their face, they have no choice but to be arrested in the end, the China people are actually not right, they spread fake news
Caleb because they arrest you anyways figure heads like Joshua Wong doesn’t wear mask because like I said he’s a figurehead yet he’s been arrested multiple times and jailed two or 3 times simply for being a leader of a protest
We support you pro-China! I respect you! Defend your country and don’t let those traitor mercenary rioters damage Hong Kong. We experienced the same scenario happened in Egypt it is a foreign conspiracy.
@@kevinjusdeel1223 i like the way you "pro-democracy" people command others to shut up, or you beat them up like in the videos there's strange beauty in such EPIC level irony. "you guys shut the FK up, we are talking freedom of speech here"
If they were they would not have brought over old people, they would of brought other young people and the mainland young would of F them up. Hong Kong youth are mostly soyboys some of the HK girls look tougher than the soyboys.
@@dyflin3246 no? All it gave them is the illusion of participating in something big, look at how it ended up, how did violence contribute to anything other than every normal HKer hating them?
@@UKing-ng3cx You have to look at the bigger picture here, the Chinese Communist Party was stripping away Hong Kongs Autonomy and the people [*retracted*] against the Communist Party. Peaceful [*retracted*] doesn't work against an authoritarian government that doesn't even allow it in mainland China.
I thought I have seen it all but this is special kind of bizarre I have not seen anything like it. Some of those uncles and aunties are just as old as my parents fighting like kids HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
@@angeltan3622 I really doubt how much do you know about communism or the chinese history. because if you are learned and wise, you will be hangover "humanity" or "communism" craps.
I'm happy to see that many came out to fight against these violent protestors. The message is very clear now. The government will never be coward down by these pest.
"Police left but the conflict didn't stop" (2.50) OR 'The conflict didn't stop but police left'. If the police left when it was still violent, why did they go there at all?
I’m sorry do whatever you want, but just don’t drag disabled, old people and children into this. That poor man getting beat up was just sickening to watch. Shame
This is so excruciating to watch. How disrespectful of them to hit that old man. Even if he told some harsh words, you guys have no right to hit him. It clearly demonstrate how you guys are being raised. I was supporting you guys, but what your doing now is speechless. If you want to fight, fight with words 🙏
China has 1.3 billion in population and probably millions of them are in Hong kong. Throw enough insults at them daily and this is what you get.Well, the million dollar question is, where the F is the great Joshua Wong? when his comrades are being arrested and beaten to pulps. The youth are truly mislead and evidently offered a raw deal. The sooner they accept HK is part of China, the sooner they can end this embarrassing display of hooliganism and allow the ordinary decent HK citizens get on with their lives.
@@georget9640 the sucess of hk in the past was because hk was the only conduit to do business with mainland china,period. without china HK is nothing,many foreign investors invested in china in the past , HK investment was miniscule compared to the total foreign investment china got.
sadly, emotional violent outbursts and direct conflict are an inherent human trait (and animal trait at that) with almost everyone being capable of outbursting to some degree if feeling pushed enough or threatened. The tragic issue in HK is that there is no effective leadership offering real concessions or starting the reform process, hence the ongoing wide-spread protest movement . And it's the ongoing protests which only increases the probability of escalated tension and inevitable confrontation points : /
Both sides? Looks pretty one-sided to me: a mob of gangsters beat up one old man while yelling "beat him to death," even if the old guy had instigated the fight, it's excessive to gang up on one person like that, much less one old man. Despicable!
Tbh, these people are already causing the crime rate to go up. Adding fuel to the fire and not solving the core of the issue and not moving on to try to improve or cooperate (very selfish). The police can be better deployed for crimes and strengthening internal defence and security. The citizens themselves have forgotten this point and create crimes/public nuisance/public disturbance, inconveniencing even their own citizens. This is not the way to fight for freedom. This is not the way to do things maturely. Really wonder how many of them will start to realize and stop, rather thinking of constructive ways on 1) Living peacefully 2) Charge that murderer (the spark plug of these string of events)
I warn all Filipinos, the same will happen in Philippines, many youth especially on Twitter think they are cool and politically correct. Mga spoiled brats, feeling entitled, paniwalang paniwala sa sarili, sila nalang lagi ang tama. Wala na talagang saysay "Ang Kabataan ang Pag asa ng Bayan". Puro politika nlang nasa isip halos lahat nalang politika even trivial stuff ini associate nila sa politika, saan na Science and Technology, Economy, AI, Research & Development. anu na napag.iwanan na tayo ng kapwa ASEANs natin. They are gullible people, easily brainwashed by NED sponsored NGOs and Yellow Cult antiGovernment antiChina forces/media in Philippines.
Thank you Jimmy ,Joshua, Nathan, Agnes, Albert, Benny, Anson,Martin and many many more.. I hope no body will die next, if not blood will be on your hands.
I don't understand the protestors against Beijing. The biggest problem in Hong Kong is inequality and inequality is exactly what Beijing will try to diminish
