RIVALS 2 WORLD PREMIERE !rivals2 

Wait really? Gotta watch again.

The first game does this as well on some stages

@@KKJazz really? Wow, I guess I'm always tense playing online, I never realized.

@@catioropulguentoyep, in fact they recently had a patch to make it so that more stages had that effect than before. They realised how hype it was and deliberately added in more of that in the first game.

15:32 for a few seconds before / lazy people

well said! I am super stoked. no more constant threat or worry of C&D's

SHOVEL KNIGHT PLEASE COME BACK

Not to mention, showing it off through Ludwig and Mang0. It's clear they're going for a bit more edge as opposed to pushing it through someone like Hungrybox, for instance. No beef or anything, but that's how it seems to me.

​@beardalaxy I don't follow melee personalities in general, but I'll say that if this event was hosted by HBox, I would not have been able to watch it for 4 hours.

@@cmattss4 i think the main problem with that for me is that it wouldn't be a lot of people in the same room all playing together and stuff, just hbox and his chat and maybe a couple dudes on discord. they definitely picked the right guys for the job. the only thing better than this would have been doing it at a summit but, well, rip.

They went the Riot Games route. Nintendo had their chance lets make them look stupid.

@@khariperkins4243?

Aaaw man Fraymakers. It hurts cause its true. Another game I wish it was more populated was Rushdown Revolt.

nah ur not, after Nintendo took a shit on the melee scene with their community guidelines, this could _finally_ be the game they migrate to

Yes and no. A lot of people probably will move to Rivals 2, but people that have invested too much time amd brand identity into Melee will probably stick with Melee. Most of the people who move will be low to mid level melee and PM players, or people who primarily played Rivals 1. A lot of higher tier smash pros will definitely try it out, though.

@@DJayPhresh PM players for sure. PM players who have played it are saying it feels a lot like PM does, which I couldn't be happier about. I do still think though that if this game fosters a positive community a lot more smashers in general will get into it. Many Melee players, especially the top ones, will always keep playing Melee (like Mang0 said they're cockroaches lol), but I do hope the play this too, just like in the good old days of PM.

​@@beardalaxyfor sure, fair assesment. I do feel a lil more optimistic about the melee nerds loving it, we just wanna shmoove. And rivals 2 looks shmoovy indeed

@@Parpeing melee people not wanting to play PM unless i paid their entry fee is part of what made me stop running tournaments tbh. i really hope this game can bring some more people together.

I wish one of the fighters was Olympia, but I guess shes probably DLC material

@@catioropulguento i'm rooting for Mollo because i'm pretty certain Olympia's coming back eventually. and you KNOW she's gonna look so badass in 3D

Man im so sad the launch roster is so small, :(, im seriously hopeing that theyre considering free DLC at least for a while, like Rivals 1 i honestly held on to it for so long becuz the roster was really small, but DE DEfinitely was what prompted me to get it in the first place along with the Workshop, imma still gonna get the 30$ tier and fully support the game but i was really seriously expecting the launch roster to be way bigger, 6 chars is honestly really small of a roster even without the stretch goals and i really feel like we shouldve gotten 12 at minimum man, well heres hoping the game still ends up being amazing and screw off with the pixel-art elitists and shields-grabs-ledges haters lol.

@@SimoneBellomonte The only problem i have with it being so small is the fact that the rest will likely be DLC, just disheartening but I get that a company needs to make money too. The issue I don't know or understand is why its coming out in Q4 2024 AND with such a limited roster. That's kinda crazy considering this video was 7 months ago and Q4 is still like 3-4+ months away right now

the move lives up to its name 😅

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People are sick of seeing all these platform fighters coming out that get hyped up as "the new Smash killer" only for them to suck and die within six months. They probably don't know that Rivals of Aether was pretty much the only one with any staying power, though. Rivals 2 will be good.

​@@beardalaxypeople who call it a clone or smash killer also don't know that they don't want to kill smash and they made the game because they loved it and were inspired

The game not being on consoles day 1 and not even having that as a stretch goal is pretty interesting too. I get that the team are probably doing heroics with the regular work they are putting in but it not being on consoles is a blow for sure.

Actually Guilty Gears Strives Ranked mode with floors is pretty garbage lol, id rather just have an MMO rating system like typical fighting games.

MMR*.

@@anonwalkerrIt will release on Consoles eventually, first it needs to be fully polished on PC for release, honestly im glad theyre getting their priorities straight. 👌

@@anonwalkerr Supporting consoles is unironically a whole other level of development. Especially people like Sony and Nintendo. You basically have to give them creative control because all of your stuff is subject to their approval as well as needing to work around the fact that they all have different online systems. It's actually a nightmare. It can be done especially if you start with that in mind, but it's like a next level challenge on top of that. That being said I also don't know why they wouldn't have done that.

DAN U R KIND OF OK TOO

Why do people think every platfighter has to compete with smash, we can all coexist

@@cosmic5665 developer support for smash bros is terrible so a strong competitor that has a big scene while also having developer support would be amazing.

​​@@jaycemarshall9237I know smash bros dev support sucks but I'm just saying that games should never compete with eachother

It'd be kinda funny if they make modded characters just flat like GnW.

Who said 3D kills the Workshop? You know you can still use sprites right? And tbhonestly who cares about mismatching art-styles, functionally its even better now cuz you can choose between 2D or 3D, and animating in 3D actually takes way less time compared to just hand-drawing every single sprite in 2D, not to mention its a no-brainer for the skins, you just have to make the animations once and youre good to go, ALSO again nobody said the game wont have the Workshop supported, it just wont be available on at launch.

Rivals 2, it's dropping 2024.

I do hope it gets a nomination for best fighting game. I'd personally vote for them, despite thinking Tekken 8 would still win.

@@catioropulguentoNah Rivals 2 is gonna get blobrogoated. 👌

They still have it though !

You can no longer wall jump out of up-special which was a huge staple of rivals 1 but a bit overkill in rivals 2 because of ledges

@@dominicarps715 gotcha.

different input then smash, they probably don't know it.

You can still wall-jump out of certain moves, it just has to be done before Up-Bing.

Why would that be the case?

He had a series of tweets where he was complaining that these guys weren't at a coinbox they signed up for with some screenshotted texts of them playing this game instead@@catioropulguento

Pfp (Profile picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

Steam, it has native support for the GameCube Wii U and Switch adapters. Console versions are something they want to do eventually but for right now their target platform is Steam.

For now only Steam, but no reason not to think it wont get released on other platforms later down the line.

You can get it now for 30$ if you get that Kickstarter tier which gives you access to the game when it comes out on Day 1, idk about the launch price for when the game eventually releases tho but i cant imagine it being any higher or lower than 30-40$.

Not at launch but theyre its definitely gonna add it to the game once it gets ported to other consoles, for now itll release just on PC on Day 1 at least i believe.

@@SimoneBellomonte Oh yeah, they told me exactly what you sayin on Twitter.

ye lets just take everything from a game and call it our own? if u wana play smash just play smash? yall retarted or something?

​@@mnmtwoone example of a feature being wanted in another game doesn't make it a clone. Smash having platforms doesn't make it a clone of any platformer game.

Yes

I mean, the games still in pre-alpha, its not finished man, but i see where youre coming from. 👌

You can only get ledge-invincibility like twice per touching ground, and but it refreshes on… well, touching the ground, obviously lol.

Oh right, also yeah, no ledge-trumping (its the one in Ult right? Where you can steal the ledge from your opponent), but this game has ledge-hogging tho, personally i prefer trumping on a competitive setting-wise, but hogging is like way more fun tbhonestly to do casually-wise lol.

Not only do i-frames dissappear at ledge over time, but you lose the ability to refresh it after a couple times as well

​@@SimoneBellomonteI would actually disagree with this. I think ledge trumping is significantly more casual oriented while ledge hogging is more competitive This is because ledge hogging makes edge guards better which makes "the corner" and corner pressure way more significant and therefore stage positioning as a whole more relevant. It makes strategy more dynamic Trumping ensures that it is more likely everyone will get back to stage more often which is nice for casuals but less for competitive players. In a competition, when you read that someone is choosing to or has to go to ledge, that should be the stock imo. glad you're so excited for rivals 2 though! I love your enthusiasm :)

Rivals 2 isn't out yet but it does seem it's gonna be much feel much better and polished then NASB2.

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I haven't played either, but just from looking at gameplay I'd say that if you want a lot of classic cartoon characters that you know and love duking it out, NASB2 would be the better option. I don't doubt that the theming of it being Nickelodeon is a huge draw for a lot of people. However, it does seem that Rivals 2 has a better camera, smoother animations that feel a lot more like something from a Smash game (NASB2's are a little janky), and it's adding some cool gameplay features that are actually simple and conducive to fun gameplay. It's also cheaper, NASB2 is $50 + another $25 for the season pass. Not really worth it, imo. I've heard that it's a little buggy, matchmaking isn't great, and you can't rebind keyboard keys. Sort of an apples to oranges comparison though since Rivals 2 isn't out yet and theoretically could also have these issues.

Unless things have changed since Rivals of Aether (I assume they haven't and I'm just gonna assume some players don't know) but you can walljump during free fall after up special to recover better. So you UP Special>Wall Jump>Up Special to recover. and this is like Pre-Alpha so I don't think it looks as good as it can in regards to shadows if those were to be a thing.

The first point seems like something that is probably due to this being a prealpha and they just haven't developed those parts much yet. The second point is more relevant but hopefully something they can fix when they get more feedback.

You can not walljump after up b, however you are not put into freefall after airdodge so that can be used to get som extra distance before up b

@@Jcriptobeta yea no they removed upb walljump upb

recoveries are still super strong its just a skill issue on the players side today, but Trevor tricked them out in those sets and they'll learn how to recover better with their characters (for example, none of the Maypul players used her ledge special as an offstage tool, none of the Wrastor players used neutral B to recover, etc.)

For me this sounds very controversial but I hate the iconic crossover characters, it feels like casual bait and isn't original but that's just my opinion

Its still in a pre-alpha so itll definitely be more polished for launch, like for example theres no shadows atm but no reason not to think they wont get added, like cmon man lets not forget this game is still in development in a pre-alpha stage, but so far it looks amazing for this level of polish it has right now for the moment, also compared to NASB2 the level of the animations quality is superb and way better imho than NASB2, maybe its even on the same level as Smash Ultimate, lastly have some faith man, Dan has good rep as testified by the games stellar reputation and Rivals 1 still getting balance patches and dev support and bug fixes, etc., this game is gonna be great, probably even win GOTY. 💪💪💪

As for the furry aesthetic thats personal preference, so i understand if thats how you feel, i personally dont mind even though im not even a furry going around in a fursuit or wearing a badge lol tbh idk.

⁠@@cosmic5665You mean like Ori and Shovel Knight? Well those are the only 2 i can think of lol seeing as the rest is completely original (with Fleet being like, 2nd• Party? As she was developed for the spin-off game Dungeons of Aether by another dev team i think? but copyright-wise i think she belongs to Aether Studios i think), but tbh crossover characters are fun, i mean seeing your favorite char in the game is just the best and mostest feeling ever, + bonus points if they have a playstyle you really like, maybe Smash Bros. played a way too much bigger part in getting chars to crossover, as that isnt needed but it definitely adds a bit more touch of personality and ooze into the game, i hope we get Hollow Knight as a char. 🙏👏

@@SimoneBellomonte I’m not sure what you mean about the shadows. The game has shadows. But I said it’s polished for this stage in development. I just don’t like how it looks aesthetically. That’s something they can’t really change. As I said, huge furry vibes. Even since posting this I’ve seen the furries showing their support for it pretty heavy on X. I have no doubt the furry community will be behind this game 100% at launch, which is a good thing for the longevity of the game. They kept Fighting Herds alive for a while. It’s just going to have to play exceptionally well for me to want to pick it up when it drops. I’m sure multiversus will be back by then, maybe some smash news and we’ll see NASB survives. The landscape for platform fighters is going to look much different in a year.

No... Stop

What an insane thing to comment lmao

Not funny. Didn’t laugh

was this comment supposed to be funny?

Yeah the Rivals are Isreal and Palestine

Tbh I pretty much like this and Brawlhalla way more than Smash. They both have crossplay (they said in a Twitter it'll have). Which means more people playing it, while Smash is limited to Nintendo consoles.

​@@catioropulguentoif smash came to PC with decent netcode, I wouldn't buy this game. Just being honest😅

There are a lot of unique things to Rivals that no other smash game or platform fighter has. But yes the first one was partially taken from the DNA of melee and P+ and they are building on that framework Rivals 1 and 2 both have a ton of unique factors though! one of the most creative entires in the genre imo

It's crazy how inattentive you are considering the numerous gameplay differences, and how indolent you are to not do your research or even play the first game for ANY point of reference when writing your comment despite how objectively wrong you are.

Have you played Rivals of Aether?

The tools to be that precise absolutely exist in a game like this. Dash dancing and wavedashing give you really fine control over your micro-spacing if applied well.

Dude, movement is ults biggest problem

From my perspective, Ultimate is anything but precise. There's a crazy huge frame buffer that makes it actively difficult to be precise. There's a reason I play modded Ult instead lol. Ultimate is still a great game, don't get me wrong, but it leaves a lot to be desired in the movement and handling IMO.

​@@beardalaxyeven when ult was my main fg, I still knew the game lacked movement but did and still like ult

yeah tbh i don't blame you after nsab1, multiversus, fraymakers and all the other "smash killers". but after the insane support Dan and aether studios has put into the first game for 7 years it gives me the most hope thus far for a platform fighter's future going forward

⁠@@AziDoesQuestionableThingsevery platform fighter isn’t a “smash killer” what is up with this weird idea? Every fighting game that comes out doesn’t get called a “street fighter killer”. No one who plays or develops these platform fighters wants them to be “smash killers” it’s so bizarre

the only reason i have faith in this one where i didn't really have faith in the others is because the team has already been proving themselves for a long time with Rivals of Aether. This game is just an extension of that :)

@@CCuppy29 I don't know why this phenomenon is exclusive to platform fighters but some people seem to think every platform fighter that's not smash is trying to overtake it

I think it comes from the necessity of having a star-studded cast or highly recognisable roster to try and compete with the roster of smash while not being mechanically interesting enough to differentiate itself, it's my personal interpretation of what a "smash killer" is

I love it when Smash players see something that looks similar to Smash, and then act as if being similar to the game they like is a bad thing. Like, Smash proves that its game style can work, so I don't get why only Smash and Smash alone is allowed to have said game style and other developers can't take a shot at it as well. If this is so similar, may I ask what they could do to make themselves different from Smash?

bro just look at your pfp

This is one of the most braindead takes I've seen in a while. You can voice your opinion, but it has no merit or validity if you are spouting shit without fully experiencing the game. I had the exact same thought process as you until I actually sat down and sunk in time to rivals 1. And let me tell you, the gameplay design and engines have EXTREMELY different philosophies compared to smash. Smash is made to be a fun party game with balanced enough characters for competitive play. Rivals on the other hand focuses on making the game as smooth as possible with a movement system that takes good things from melee and improves upon it; as well as making characters with mechanical synergy and spatial resources to make the competitive play more dynamic. Rivals 2 is just an expansion of the first, adding new mechanics and switching to 3d to appeal to a new audience. I encourage you to actually have backing to your statement, and not just saying it's a "smash clone." Same genre, not the same game.

The only things that’s rivals 2 has similar to smash is the shield and trapping the edge of the wall and grabs. That’s pretty much it everything else is from its original game rivals of aether. Stop being a hater.