Games rarely have their full on cosmetic plan ready right at launch. Not saying FOMO will happen with this game, but if its going to happen it wont be at launch thats for sure.
@@tenthirtyseven-v1 Whether it's what they meant it or not, I don't mind that kind of FOMO. A year goes by pretty fast, and I'm sure they're up for purchase for a decent time.
I’ve never had this since Nintendo basically shits on the very idea of liking a game for competitive reasons. Easily my most looked forward game in a long ass time. Hoping it’s successful!
Uh huh… I’m not getting any hopes up for another PF fighter until it’s been around for a year at least.. The Original Rivals of Aeather was also a great game that pretty much died immediately, and NASB 2 is also actually a fantastic PC fighter that no one has truly stuck with or given a chance, and it has more mechanics than this rivals will even have + a larger roster. I don’t have faith in the genre or the community that supports it anymore, but I’ll have fun for the next few months while this maintains its small community of players.. Maybe this time I’ll be wrong, we’ll see I guess
Not stuff from the buck shop. I dont really see a difference in practices here compared to other games but it doesn't matter to me personally. Tho, I assumed shop stuff was more of a free-to-play mechanic. I guess its done with paid games as well.
That's naive. "Unlockable by playing the game" in itself isn't a reassuring statement, nor is it proof of it being well done. It could mean "by playing for 2 days" or it could mean "by playing 16 hrs a day for 3 years straight". There's a lot of room for malice and technicalities.
@@HighLanderPonyYT it is more reassuring coming from a studio who's done well by doing similar with their previous entry. Edit: so, ya know... Not just by the statement alone but by prior example.
@@gatsbee "For a fighting game". That's just it. It's a fighting game. And an indie one. And it's even more niche than a traditional fighter. And it won't be on all platforms at launch. Not the best longevity or value proposition.
If I may drop a suggestion: Gift pricing? Don't Starve Together has this dilemma of being a friendly multiplayer game from an indie studio. As in, you want friends to play with but no one else will own a copy. So they sell the game in bundles of 2, so that you can gift the other copy to an IRL friend. I passed my second copy to a friend, who liked it and bought another set for two more friends. Rivals is also an indie friendly multiplayer game, so it stands to reason that it might benefit from a similar scheme. Maybe a bundle price of 2 copies for 1.5x?
Can I also suggest victory screen animations as another unlockable? Also any plans for stage skins and music? I absolutely love that as part of the MILESTONE SYSTEM! Being taken to a stage skins you've not seen by an opponent showed that they've been playing that character a long as time and made that next battle feel like boss fight compared to the usual ranked matches.
This seems like a lot more development, but also seems pretty doable when you consider that lots of other games also do highlight animations, like Overwatch. If this wouldn't be too hard for them to do at least two for each character, that would be so sick. I imagine that would be further down the development line though, skins are more impactful and likely less difficult to develop.
They have previously stated that victory animations as an unlockable are very unlikely, as animating them is a LOT of work and expensive compared to producing skins, among other things.
Stage cosmetics is an interesting idea. I imagine you could have each player customize their stage, you could do whole skins or you can make it as specific as changing certain props, floor textures, skybox, etc. Then either it randomizes each player's stage in an online match or maybe winner of the previous set gets to have it.
That make sense. I guess it would also depend on the type development team they still have. They've been very open about the fact that they've needed to let go of team members that they couldn't afford to keep on, so it's impossible to know what skills they have available to them. Music and stage skins are definitely my wishlist item.
I never realized that a game's currency system could be actual dolars and coins so that they correspond to our actual currency in an understandable way. 1 aether buck is 100 aether coins, and 1 aether buck is 1 cent!
@@matthewjones6786 they show something different at 02:53 though. He says 1$=100AB, but the screen shows industry standard obfuscation and "oooh, buy the bigger bundle it'll be a better deal"
It could be, but most games choose not to. They don't want you to guess an article's real price, so they sell odd currency amount bundles and give a "bonus" on top of each to make it harder for you to guesstimate. Not to mention there's more than just USD in the world. However, Dan being so transparent with the prices is really welcoming. That alone makes me want to support the game.
This is amazing. I am so pleased. Not having ten different currencies, not having confusing exchange rates, not having one-time cosmetics, all of this is wonderful.
Nah make it an actual character or at least an echo with some tangible differences. Would be cool that since he’s eternal lox he doesn’t need lava to charge up, he just needs to attack or wait like robs laser
@@Beastmd that would be too redundant. this isnt a game like smash that just tries to smush in as many characters as possible, every character in this game is entirely unique
@@josiahmills207 you say that like melee fox and falco aren’t the two most unique characters in that game. On paper they wouldn’t seem that different, but their entire gameplans and combo trees expand in entirely different ways just from changing the values of his moves. Alternative gameplay styles should be explored, not visited once then abandoned till the sequel. Would’ve been a travesty if we never got falco, or never got ganon
Coming over from 2d fighters, you have no idea how happy it makes me to know all future fighters will just immediately be available to everyone with no strings attached. I will absolutely throw down for some cute skins to support that model.
Dan, not only am I going to buy your game, I am also going to spend IRL money on the games cosmetics to support your studio. Looking forward to future development of Rivals 2.
I love this so much. This is modern game development monetization at its finest. Transparency on item availability and plans moving forward, No randomized loot boxes, realistic communication and understanding on what it takes to make a fighting game a title that can realistically justify ongoing development like a live service game, and then Just a splash of FoMo on free currency Aether Coin shop to keep the player base invested and logging in each day. The honesty & transparency in this design is refreshing, and it's nice to be treated like a loyal fan to be catered to, and not just a cash cow to be milked. Thank you.
@@HighLanderPonyYT I mean, it is mildly irksome. I always try to improve my casual spelling and punctuation, and while I was taught and know these things. Working customer service web chats made typing with proper english feel to much like exhausting work when in situations like casual youtube comments and correspondence with friends. If I can be unnderstood without cause for confusion, great. But I'd hate to let myself get too sloppy. So again, thanks for being "That Guy". ;)
Thank you so much for being so genuinely awesome, yall. It's such a breath of fresh air to see a team that not only cares about the game they're making, but also the community that plays it. You make it abundantly clear that you're not trying to fleece anybody or exploit FOMO - you're just trying to make the most fun game possible. No time-restricted content is a huge thing for me. God bless you all.
There's going to be an demo (really an open beta) from October 14th 10am PT - October 21st 10am PT on Steam!! I can't believe there's not a section in the video about this!!!!!
Doesn't multiversus have powerups that you equip before battle that you have to unlock for a charactervia grinding or money? maybe that was what they were talking about@@dylanroiz5469
DAN THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU ARE A LEGEND MAN ! its so nice to have a team of devs who care about there players on this level its so refreshing . IM ON THIS DAY ONE IM SO EXCITED.
mad respect for adding cosmetics and giving those of us who can't spend a lot of cosmetics ways to get them by just playing the game a lot that is awesome!!!!
This is such a HUGE W in the current state of the industry. You guys rock. I'm voting with my wallet here. That axolotl Orcane skin is a day one for me.
@@franciscovaldes4107but also you can earn some of that currency in game by just leveling characters making it possible to get a skin entirely for free!
@@franciscovaldes4107 ... did you miss the entire point? The premium skins are purposefully expensive because their MAIN purpose is supporting the devs, noone needs a skin to have any advantage whatsoever. Every future character will ALREADY be free
@@franciscovaldes4107 Understandable, but that wasn't what I was getting at; A lot of games tend to do the hot dog/bun amount thing where you buy a certain amount of currency but it doesn't match the amount of currency needed to buy a single thing. But in Rivals 2, you spend $10, buy a skin, and there will be no unnecessary currency left over. That's what I'm happy about
@@franciscovaldes4107 Yeah, Smash and their pay2win characters. In Rivals 2 we get all of the DLC characters for FREE. I rather spend my money on a skin that does nothing but looking fancy than buying blocky Jack Black with auto win function.
Alright, new personal goals: 1. Obtain every free thing for Forsburn 2. Buy everything Forsburn related 3. Do the same for Sylv (eventually when he's added) and anyone else I find super duper neat as they're added 4. Get even more stuff as it's added 5. Wait for Hamir I think that's a good start.
Dam Fornace. On behoof of all Absa lovers, I humbly request to revert Absa's feet-hoofs back to normal goat hooves. This was a horrible downgrade in her character design, and before her jump to 3D you have the chance to remedy it. When we hit lighting kick we don't want to see a horribly impractical and mangled foot with toe hooves. We want 100% cloven hoof on that kick. Your legacy will go down as a foot fetishist if this mistake is not fixed. Be warned. #FixAbsaHoof
HUGE respect for this. In terms of monetizing a game like this post launch, I think this is the best way to do it with customers/players in mind. Cosmetics only with a way to earn them through play, and a way to pay to get them right away if you want to further support the game. My only thing is the game honestly could’ve been $40 and I don’t think people would’ve complained LOL
Just politely asking for Lox to have a super taunt where if he has full charge and holds taunt, he makes a lil throne to sit on. Thank you so much for listening.
I think the biggest upside is the transparency. Letting people know certain aspects are free and what you’re doing to accommodate that is good. A recent trend of gaming and the internet in general is the selling of user data, so not going “hey, here’s some free stuff! Ignore the new targeted ads” is nice
Honestly, I can't really complain about this when there's gonna be free dlc characters and I can just unlock stuff by playing. Solid approach, I'm excited for it.
Great stuff! I'm very happy that the premium skins are exactly 10$ worth of currency. No "bonus amount" or being just under the amount required to buy a skin... Really player friendly stuff, the way it oughta be. Can't wait to play ;3
no fomo, reasonable(ish) skin prices, free currency accumulation, free characters and modes. what's not to love? what about stages though? are those going to be free like new characters?
I'm excited to buy cosmetics. Normally I don't spend money like that but I'm excited to. Just hoping anything released for a limited time comes back frequently enough that fomo isn't too bad.
I live in Brazil, and games here are more on the expensive side. However, I also firmly support having paid Battle Passes, as long as the price is fair. I really enjoy getting skins and supporting the games I love.
Reminder: The Xbox version of ROA1 hasnt been updated since 2019. The platform the game first launched on. We've had definitive editions for everyone else and a sequel.
Honestly, this is one of my favorite games of all time now, simply because of the monetization. So fair and un-greedy. Frankly, every game should be like this
$10 For a skin does feel like a lot, but it's hard to be mad when the rest of the game treats you well and you don t have to buy new characters. I kinda want to give them my money now.
same, i've seen 20 minutes of gameplay and i already think i saw everything the game has to offer and got bored, but IM SO FREAKING HYPED FOR THIS GAME AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
I just want to go out on a limb here and say I'd much rather have seen the single player chapters as the long term dlc. It doesn't really feel much better to me too have the little guy do microtransactions. Being cosmetic doesn't mean they don't have phycological impact and affect my relationship with the game. I figure this is probably something ya'll have already debated with your decision, but I also don't want to be completely silent about my feelings. I think something like this is a heavy enough compromise that it warrants a more serious and vulnerable conversation about why this direction was taken, and sharing the understanding of the problems with this approach. It'd also be nice to have some accessibility options for outright hiding the cash shop and related cosmetics. Maybe on a slightly granular level? So you could hide any reminder of skins, but leave alt-colors or spawn platforms or something. It'd also be nice to like, just have an optional subscription for the game? Just give me a little badge and I'm good. Along with hiding stuff. Maaaybe let me pick x amount of cosmetics for Christmas or something, after y time with the sub? That could include an exception to have only those cosmetics show on other players. Just something so I can perceive these as little as possible, while I guess not feeling completely left out since Pandora's box has been opened and I'm going to be seeing the stuff on RU-vid. Maybe consult some physiologists to see what's advisable? I think that should be necessary whenever even broaching monetization like this.
honestly I think one of the most relieving things for me is that it appears that the premium skins are worth the exact amount of currency you can buy, so we're avoiding a SF6 situation where you're forced to pay more for a skin than its actually worth because of how they price the currency. I'm still probably gonna be wary of the pay for currency model, but honestly, no fomo and all the characters free seems like a good trade off so far, and I hope the studio can keep going without getting too greedy with it
The one thing I don't like is that the coin shop pressures you to check in every day, which creates habitual play and addiction. Season Pass items being dropped into the coin shop afterward is great, but the coin shop being gacha-like means there's still some FOMO for grinding out the pass, so you don't have to deal with the coin shop checking process.
Holy cow it’s like if Multiversus followed their perfectly fine currency system back in beta but made earning larger amounts of gold in shorter amounts of time a thing 😮
