Wishlist the new Riven NOW ➡️ bit.ly/RivenSteam or bit.ly/RivenGOG Steve Jobs introduces Cyan co-founder Rand Miller who introduces Riven DVD for Apple's Macintosh at the MacWorld Expo Keynote in 1998. #myst25 kck.st/2EwUP33
As painful as it was to switch CDs every time you went to a different island, the art design and the symbolism of the five discs and those incredible sleeves made it feel so right.
I see that Rand was still trying to stay to his policy of "Show, don't tell" for the most of it. Those guys would later on scramble their heads on the puzzles they were barely introduced to like no tomorrow.
If you still have the CDs, you can copy the data to your device and play Riven on ScummVM. This software runs on many different platforms like Windows, macOS, Android, iOS, Linux, Playstation to only name a few and supports dozens of old adventure games. BTW, ScummVM also supports two more Cyan titles: The Manhole and Myst.
Phantasmagoria was worse at seven discs! Thankfully compression algorithms improved enough after that to bring its sequel and Gabriel Knight 2 down to five each iirc.
lol loved that 5 CD stuff. Just added to the epic quality to the game. "WHAATTT? this game is so huge they need 5 CDs???" NOthing like Riven ever. Our entire family was sucked into Riven. Even my Mom who never EVER plays games was into it. Unreal stuff Riven. Greatest of all time.
If you used Adaptec Toast and copied then mounted ALL 5 disks on the desktop, it was seamless and quick! I still have an install of Snow Leopard that contains all my Myst games - RivenX is totally playable today.
Must and riven are the only games I’ve played. No other game has grabbed me the same way. I miss them so much. Are they saying they will be available to use on our more “modern” computers? I sincerely hope so.
Pretty cool! When does that game come out? :P I've already pledged my tier for your Kickstarter for Firmament, like I did Obduction! Keep making awesome {very over used word nowadays but it absolutely applies here} games for us all! Thanks so much Cyan! :)
ShadowXloner er, no modern Apple Mac you can buy has a DVD anymore!!!!!! Go and see, Apple famously were first to remove them. I just brought a msi gaming laptop, even that doesn't have a built in optical drive!!!! Infact I've not even brought a DVD/blueray in what seems like decades! Infact you can download MYST from the Apple Store, to your iPad. Even their new game obduction is download only. Young people don't buy discs, they download and stream.
^ Then buy $20 disc reader portable usb. It's simple. Official Apple driver supports them. And why did Cyan sold disc of myst 25th anniversary in 2018? I bought disc and download both too. I think you missed news that actually, Cyan already sold disc version of Obduction in 2016 too.
I love them, but having played it recently on a better monitor than I had in the late 90s, I think the compression they talked about improving here is still a really big problem. I hope we get a remaster or remake soon a la realMyst or Myst VR.
@@keeperofthereignthe new one is more beatable, I managed without any hints or online searches and I’m notoriously mediocre at puzzle games. I think it’s less disorienting being able to move around in 3d. Took probably 23 hours or so, with zero assistance and zero memory of the original puzzles. The trick with Riven (and myst) is that there are A LOT of things in the world that serve no purpose or don’t actually do anything. I happen to love this because it creates a world where not everything is designed to get you through the game, some of it’s just there cuz one of the people in the game put it there.
My original 5 CD set of Riven is within comfortable distance as of playing this video. I assure you, it will stay there as a treasured item to this amazing game. Thank you for sharing this clip!
I left the IT world in 92 and wasn't at this meeting. Jobs came to our company many times prior to that. Once I was out of the industry I played Myst, but didn't stay up to date on technology.
Myst was originally made using a program called hypercard which was a Mac exclusive. Broderbund software handled the PC conversion. The differences between the PC and Mac version are slight but everything to a perfectionist such as Rand Miller. Mac version is the original and will always be superior even if the PC port was near perfect.
It was a time of great experimentation in video games but it also really sucked back then because you didn't have resources like Unreal Engine or RU-vid tutorials to learn from and build on.
And now they have Obduction, they're working Firmament, they're making everything at least VR compatible. We've moved so far from CD-Roms and DVD-Roms... It's fantastic and the Myst games still look so phenomenal. Thank you Cyan for making these masterpieces, and continuing to make more. You innovated the world of gaming, and changed my life. I couldn't imagine my life without Cyan or the Myst games. I'll always be excited to see whats next.
I've seen numerous interviews/documentaries with Rand Miller (usually a "looking back" at his games, so he is much older), and seeing him this young is amusing. I really like the guy. He's an amazing developer who introduced the world to new levels of reality in gaming. Plus, he just always seems so humble.
And Mac STILL has barely any games made for it. Managed to get Resident Evil: Village on it, and it still has problems Love the natural, authentic presentation. These days, people on stage at E3 and such always seem too forced and artificial
I hope Cyan doesn't mind, but here is my fixed version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VxIrinhDPa0.html audio is dual-mono (fix the right only speaker issue, less headaches) and amplified to peak at -3db (instead of -9.9dB, less adjusting your speaker volume)
Couple of days ago now in October 2022 I saw a video from an australian youtuber speaking of how he recommended playing Riven again in 2022 (yes, there are videos on youtube made in 2022 about this game). I wrote some comment - and the algorythm after couple of days brought me this video. For once, I'm thankful to the algorythm. Greetings from Latvia. What a great game this was. Realism far, far above anything else of the time.
that was really blasting away presentation all this great graphics and that mac´s are piece of art in sound, graphics and handling. at that time it was just blasting away ... today at apple : we have a dark mode and me "ok".
It makes me sad to think how the Cyan team is made of artists who don't compromise on their vision, while it would have taken Jobs 0.000001ms to dump them into a bin the second Riven would have stopped to be profitable for him (financially or prestige-wise). Thank God it didn't come to that!
Myst and Riven (plus The Manhole and dozens of other old adventure games) can be played on most platforms thanks to ScummVM. I have Riven and Myst Masterpiece installed on my phone right now :)
