RN Giulio Cesare - An Italian Battleship Lost in Crimea 

hell yeah Something the curator of BS New Jersey kind of hates from the Italian ships je je Sure form and being practical weight more than looks alone, but I think these ships were really good... but the communists party in charge and it’s corruption destroyed their utility... like powder quality being awful, probable DEI and not merits for officers and key personnel

​@@RebeccaCampbell1969 why Ryan hates italian battleships?

​@@RebeccaCampbell1969 Ryan seems nice enough guy not to hate these ships. Don't forget your morning pills, Becky. 🙂

The British fought alone after the fall of France and survived quite nicely until the Yanks joined the war in Tunisia 1943.

This is true, and the Chinese fought the imperial Japanese alone from 1937-1941. Wars are funny in that they rarely start with every nation involved leaping into the fray simultaneously.

@@billballbuster7186 That they fought with the entire two German divisions in Africa. The Soviets helped them a little by taking on 160 divisions...

@@jovanpetrovic4725 Rommel was sent to North Africa to aid the Italians who were a military disaster, everything they touched turned to defeat. When they arrived in March 1941, the Soviet Union was not even in the war. At that time the Soviets were supplying Germany with oil to bomb London!

Fascists don't pay attention to facts. They only believe in their magical thinking and they kill those who don't believe their fake reality.

It’s less that, and more that sources vary on the exact number. You’ll see 608, or 609, or outliers like 617.

The Regia Marina had the largest fuel (oil) reserves in Italy. Funnily most of it was actually supplied by then Soviet Union. Anyway, if something was ever made clear by the Italian Navy to the political leadership at the time, was that being entirely inside a closed sea with geographical access points under British control, no war could be reasonably waged by Italy against global naval powers. Moreover, even a successful war against the UK was useless, as Britain had the largest Navy afloat and could afford losses while Italy could not and this in a naval war makes most of the difference: by end of 1941 the British had lost five battleships, and still had enough, while any such losses would have made Italy powerless. Unfortunately when Germany started to gobble European nations one after the other, the fascists grew wary of being left out of the banquet, and decided to declare war; while this was in a sense somehow logic (albeit risky and ultimately suicidal) for Hitler that had in front of him 'neutral' powers (the U.S.) that behaved as belligerents, escorting supplies headed for belligerent nations and allowing to belligerents large loans (the 1941 Lend-Lease Act, that specially exempted Land-Lease grants from neutrality laws). Again, Germany was a continental power, so a narrow and intricate path at least in theory existed maybe. But for Italy, if the war went on beyond a few months, there was no hope at all, as without supplies, sooner or later even the largest reserves would have faded away. The Regia Marina, that made the most (or tried to) of what fuel had stockpiled, was forced to give part of it to the industry, the police, the Army and so on. The mistake was thus absolutely not logistical, but was mainly political, embroiling in a hopeless fight, and risking everything, just to satiate greed.

Reportedly HMS Rodney fired her underwater torpedo tubes at Bismarck. A hit was registered but was hard to tell if it was from a main battery shell punching through at the waterline or the torpedo. The wreck of Bismarck does show evidence of a torpedo hit in recent expeditions but hard to tell if it was from Rodneys torpedo. Another thing to bare in mind was that at the point that Rodney used the torpedo. Bismarck was already badly damaged, listing heavily to one side, stationary and on fire. Rodney only got into torpedo range because Bismarck could not fire back and was motionless. So it's a case of having insufficient evidence to disprove the claim but slightly more evidence to claim it in the first place.

What a load of rambling nonsense. Yes, putting an act done 80 years ago does sound “strange” when put in today’s setting. Who’d have known taking things out of context was going to have such an effect.. Russia was an ally in WW2. Now they’re clearly not. Giving them an outdated battleship in piss poor condition is hardly the giving of nuclear secrets. Not even close. Especially given when it was done. Battleships - not just the Cesare itself - were outdated and clearly on the way out. Placating the Russians with a barely kept viable Italian ship wasn’t going to keep anyone up at night.