Roasting Other Urban Planning and Transit Channels | The 20k sub special 

lmao

also pls make more vido pws 👉🏼👈🏻

Didn't even realise that most of these exist

Dude! Where'd you go? I'm gonna have to ape your style and start making my own urbanist videos if you don't come back soon

Well I guess he ain't the Armchair Urbanist for nothing... A'ight never mind, I'll see myself out.

Well, how about just trying to escalate with a counter roast in your content then?

I was hoping he'd say you look and sound like Fix It Felix from the movie Wreck It Ralph - you're so positive and wholesome. The comparison is always in the background of my mind as I watch your videos.

You don't have a dreadlock, so I don't know why he called you Californian liberal.

IDK ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_1vTGN52MCc.html

Dave! Great content. 👍🏼 Please keep it up despite the vocal minority. The Bike Bell is a treat we look forward to with every video. 🔔

Are you ever down and out about your country's urban planning woes? Just say duck it and move to the Netherlands!

Are you ever down and out about your country's urban planning woes? Just say duck it and move to the Netherlands!

@@blu0065 Duck it I'm moving to the Netherlands.

@@adamhelmke1295 honestly, relatable

Did you say something? I was looking at the bikes.

Me too, I didn't knew a lot of the channels, but I have to check them out.

same, checking out that crazy podcast rn Edit: just found out I already follow them?? dude

that was kinda the hidden purpose 👀

@@alanthefisher that is really creative honestly

Giga chad: Using channels he dislikes to find things you'll like.

I mean, he is hot, can't argue with that.

@The Stammering Dunce Remember he was quite positive about Forest City too

that bimbo's cringe bears the channel I troll the most

@@nntflow7058 he's thick in a l l the wrong places, f f s.......:shuddering:

😂😂😂

Of course I’m just kidding! The jabs at RMTransit and American Rail Club were strait fire. Congratulations man! Thanks for the roast!

@@TheFourFoot uhhhhhhh actually 3 videos lol. Idk if you saw but I'll be in Chicago at the end of August if you want another "short" roadtrip lol

@@alanthefisher yeah I know, I’m gonna be in Chicago literally 2 weeks before you, and I won’t be able to make it back. At least we got to me up earlier!

@@TheFourFoot ah damn, but I hope that your trip is good tho!

@@alanthefisher for sure, thanks!

I'm serious with the burn-out comment tho, love your videos, cheers! Edit: This did not age well lol

@@alanthefisher don't worry, I was just pretty busy for a week or so. Next video coming hopefully on Sunday! For the record, I only make videos when I feel like making them, strictly as a hobby/fun activity. This should prevent burnout in the long run, or at least I hope it will.

I think an Emily Wojak woukd have fit well.

@@AdamSomething Adam, do you have any peronal favorite cities?

wonder why you're no longer linked in the doobly doo

That’s an amazing clap back 🤣

Quality over quantity, bud, something you need to learn.

Lamest comment ever

THIS so much. Applies to Cheddar too. I really think they are incapable of explaining why things are what they are without rewinding at least a century first. If they had to make a video on something like dubstep music I swear to god they'll begin the video by covering some guy who did something in 1907.

Oh God... Well good luck

They commodify urban planning RU-vid like no one else (except Wendover)

@@patrickgallagher1161 Wendover isn’t really urban planning though..

😎

and still not out yet

Him, economics explained, knowledgehub, and others are the “I Fucking Love Science” of 2020s RU-vid

This put into words something I’ve been struggling with. I really got into his videos a while ago, but after watching more of them and seeing his new content, I’ve become disinterested and couldn’t quite put my finger on it. Now I know.

@@peytonwarren1936 Knowledge Hub and Alternate History Hub are pretty "Radical Centrists".

Didn't he do a whole video about how the British privatization was bad?

@@IkeOkerekeNews he did and that was his high water mark as far as my opinion goes. But then again, the Brits did such a shit job you could show no opinion and explain why they were stupid.

you will never be a real woman

Good luck my man!

hahaha except Wendover I see

@@ROTTERDXM and Whistler, they both have too many channels.

lmao thers no wendover or vox/cheddar

Sweet, haven't heard of most of these

You forgot City Planner Plays. Roast him!

I can see your a fan of it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

DAAAYYYTOOOONAAAAA

@@MazHem memories of walking around any arcade in Ocean City MD as a kid and just hearing DAAAYTOOONNAAAA. Shit is burned into my mind for life

my favorite video game, sonice mania

He's getting paid *way* too much to have opinions rn.

@@Exarian Why would you want to be told what to think? I geniunly don't understand how you can NOT find it draining to listen to someone someone show in their shitty hottakes, wendover says if something worked logistically or not. He dosen't need to say more.

@@chestnut4860 Agreed, he’s there to break down topics to people who don’t know about them. Provide information on something that’s interesting. He does that well, we don’t need his opinion.

That's reserved for when I make another video on trolley buses

@@alanthefisher ee

@@alanthefisher PHEW Another trolleybus video??? Oh I dunno my heart is racing I don't think im ready for that...

Also everything has to be grade separated, high floor and walk-through no matter the cost.

@@Eeroke yes to the high floor tho…

Good

Deserved

You're almost doing a soy face even.

As a Californian who identifies as neither liberal nor wing nut, I LMAO and said “yep!”

Lol city beautiful is based

Both of them are on my list, but the video was getting too long and my brain was fried last night finishing this. If I do another they'll definitely be in it, also Geoff marshall too

@@alanthefisher I'd watch that. Haha

Charles Yerkes? You mean Victorian yankee metro chad?

@@user-de4cq6uk6l no, that’s Geoff Marshall, although I suppose he could be UK Train Chad? 🤔

@@alanthefisher Also Tim Traveller. He tried to be a travel guy, but covid and his inner foamerness means he basically just does French (and occasionally neighboring countries) trains (monorails are trains in this world).

The thing is that it is kinda true.

He literally said in one of his videos that he likes cars.

@@MartinJahn So do some other urbanists. They just don't like cars in cities. Rob's videos speak the language of people who won't watch many of the other channels. If they don't watch Not Just Bikes videos, they're not learning and their views won't change. In contrast Rob's video about Phoenix is both sympathetic to car drivers, but also imparts information about some downsides of car-centricity.

@@flinx I do watch the car haters (including Not Just Bikes, who's solution to almost any problem is "Move to the Netherlands, all other countries are doing it wrong anyway!") and I frankly still disagree with their car hatred, not their points about building bike and pedestrian infrastructure, better public transport etc. but I disagree that this has to come at the expense of drivers! So no, I am probably not changing my mind on that, especially since having a car is simply convenient, get a week's worth of groceries home? Use a car, can't carry all that on public transport and putting all that on a bike probably doesn't work (unless you put a trailer on it)!

@@dreamingflurry2729 His video about how he gets groceries is on point, in mixed use neighborhoods you really can go to the grocery store like everyday and its not a hassle.

*Do it Alan! I will be on ARC's Livestream when this happens!*

When 1 Million Subs hit: every other channel roasts Alan… (including Wendover?) 😂

Omg same!! I'm happy I stumbled into this part of RU-vid. It's been really inspirational... And frustrating lol

This genre of RU-vid influenced me to go to a city planning meeting today 😂

Yup, everything started with urban doctor ranting about the "long" city. And now I am here.

@@MrPryzeLurker Huh, I might have to check this guy out. I dipped my toe in the water with City Beautiful but got fully sucked into the deep end with Not Just Bikes.

Man, in all the faults and crippling problems we have in this country, at least we don't have an endless desert of NA-style suburbia and even with debilitating politically-motivated public service and transport cuts, we still have real alternatives to spending an eternity in seas of asphalt with only a car to 'keep us afloat'. Sure the push for car-centricity on both an individual and a state level is getting ridiculous, and the toxic motorist culture remains, but I can confidently live the rest of my life without ever needing to buy one of those death trap 1.5 ton steel and fibreglass prisons that are the curtailing of freedoms to an urbanite. I love urbanism channels so much, not only because I am very intrigued by it, but also at least for giving me so much hope that I'd rather have the grime and decay we see over impending financial and traffic congestion doom, the catalysts of which are ugly single-family zoned homes needing to overcompensate by lifeless lawns, and to be thankful I can both be a productive, mobile person and also not have to fear about being isolated, needing to drink drive or be living in a food desert because I can walk absolutely bloody anywhere.

What's even more cringe worthy is when Vox/Cheddar does a fact about something in another country, fact errors galore.

It would probably be easier to roast the grid video... A giant pile of rubbish.

The brilliant part is that was likely his real purpose You may not have noticed it (at first)…but your brain did

Oh they do, they sneer at car use because that is supposedly hip these days (which isn't true, only a tiny minority of people actually would get rid of their car and the convenience it brings!)...I personally am against car hatred, but not against building better public transport, bike infrastructure, pedestrian infrastructure, mixed zoning (which is luckily the norm in Germany, so yes there is usually at least some stores within walking distance) etc. etc. but I am against banning cars or doing all that at the expense of drivers. You can make compromises here, without making driving a chore that people hate, like in the Netherlands, which for me is a car hater country (and it shows, when they do drive, they are pretty bad at it! I see this every year when they clog up the Autobahn because they have to take their camping trailers and drive to their holiday destination!)!

@@dreamingflurry2729 I mean, I'm pretty sure when they actually asked people something like over 50% said they would ditch their car if given the opportunity, which makes sense because those things are basically Financial white elephants, but even if that wasn't the case, cars are objectively worse for the environment then basically every other form of Transport that you mentioned, so if we want the environment to not collapse, some people might have to be uncomfortable taking the bus. Also you can't both support better infrastructure for other forms of transportation and support car infrastructure. The two are inversely correlated because one form of Transport makes the other worse (ex. You can either give pedestrian priority, which slows down drivers, or driver priority, which puts pedestrians in danger) Car hatred is absolutely Justified. You can argue that there's still a place for cars, but certainly not as the predominant form of transport. Like there is literally no category in which cars are a better form of Transport except maybe comfort, and even then I would dispute that. They don't hate cars because it's the hip thing to do, it's because there's nothing good about cars

@@pennyforyourthots If you give me a more practical (and convenient!) mode of transportation? Then sure, so would I, but frankly it doesn't exist, nothing beats the comfort and practicality of personal transport! You can't take a week's worth of shopping (groceries!) onto puplic transport and putting all that on a bike is not easy as well :( I also believe there has to be a solution that gives cyclists, pedestrians and drivers the best possible infrastructure, you don't have to screw over drivers for pedestrians and cyclists! Sure cars aren't the most environmentally friendly thing out there, I grant you that, but that can change - electric cars (the only thing they are worse at is road wear and frankly maybe we should look into different road surfaces, asphalt is really old tech after all (note: No, I am not talking about stuff like "solar roadways", they aren't a good idea either))

@@dreamingflurry2729 its called a train. It doesn't get stuck in traffic, travels far faster (and safer) than a car, requires less maintenance, and so much more. It can move far more people the same distance while taking up less space and resources, and depending on factors like the type of train, how far they're traveling, etc can be reasonably comfortable. Also, driving isn't comfortable, i have no idea why people think that. You wouldn't need to worry about bulk groceries because that's a problem CREATED by cars. Because car dependent societies require massive road networks that put massive distances between things like homes, workplaces, etc, its more convenient to make one massive trip where you get everything, where as normally you would buy things from local shops within a block or two as needed, eliminating the need for a way to move a lot of stuff. Instead of going to walmart 5 miles away every week, you just go to your local corner store for most of your groceries. This car-centric shopping model also has the unintended side effect of killing small business, as only massive warehouse stores like walmart can afford the upkeep and scale required to make such a business functional. Cars are a solution to a problem they create. There is no traffic solution that give pedestrians/cyclists AND cars the best infrastructure, this is a one or the other scenario. If you want to move a lot of cars very quickly, you need things like highways, which are structures that create hostile environments for pedestrians and cyclists because of things like noise for creating massive spans that they must cross. This is also true to a lesser extent for regular Roads, especially roads where you have high volumes of traffic. The problem is that you have to give one priority, and the obvious solution to that is to give priority to cyclists and pedestrians as there are far more risk than the average driver. When you build things at the scale that you must for cars be efficient, you create hostile environments for cyclists and pedestrians, but when you create an environment that's friendly for pedestrians and cyclist, you create an environment where using a car becomes ineffective and the inefficient option. As for the environmental damage even if every vehicle on the road became an electric car today, that doesn't mean much. Because the electricity that we use comes from environmentally damaging sources, the amount of energy that cars collectively would use would still make them more environmentally damaging than a train simply because they don't transport people in as significant numbers. Most people drive alone, meaning that for 100 people to move from point A to point B you need about 100 cars. To move that amount of people on a train you only need one or two train cars and you'll have move those people quicker because of the lack of traffic, and far more safely because of the lack of collision zones. And this isn't even to include other factors like the fact that roads create something called the urban Island heating effect where the black asphalt makes cities hotter as it releases heat throughout the day, the high cost of upkeep which bankrupts cities because roadways are far more expensive to maintain than railroads, the fact that cars have a number of plastic components we are still produced from the same crude oils that make their fuel, the fact that lithium for Lithium-ion batteries is an incredibly rare resource, etc. Most forms of transportation are more practical and convenient than cars. Most of the problems that you brought up like the grocery shopping problem are problems that are created because of car Centric infrastructure, and he's problems simply don't exist in places where cars aren't the primary form of transportation. I don't think you realize just how much effort has gone into making cars and efficient form of transportation, because unlike a train, they aren't inherently efficient. While I don't want an outright ban on cars like some people, they should not be a society's primary form of transportation and perhaps reserved for things like local deliveries or for people who live in rural areas. for the majority of humans who live in cities or are trying to travel long distances, trains, buses, airplanes, fairies, streetcars, trolleys, walking, riding a bike, etc are all objectively more efficient, more comfortable, and more affordable modes of transportation when they don't have to be planned around cars, and even when they do have to be planned around cars, are usually still better anyway because cars are just THAT inefficient. TL;DR: most forms of transportation are more practical and convenient than cars. The only problems that cars excel at solving are the ones that they create by their very existence, and a lot of the problems that exist as a result of cars (urban planning, fossil fuel usage, noise pollution, etc) are often forgotten about when people judge how efficient cars are.

@@dreamingflurry2729 the dutch actually have one of the densest highway networks in the world, they just don't like cars in cities

i know right, agreed

You're name always has, and will always be, Peter Dribble. To change your username and pretend otherwise doesn't change that fact.

What type of EEEEEE are you?

I get the impression that Cheddar is the dumb version of Vox.

Michael Beach was great.

@@thetrainhopper8992 I did learn about balloon framing from them

Love Michael Beach, especially since his first video on Kansas City, where I lived and now not too far from, was a straight peach of a roast. He needs to return.

CHRIST I ENJOY AND HATE GUYS NEW VIDEOS SO MUCH HAHA

Jay Foreman deserves a mention too

Grown man talking to teens whilst lying on a station platform - he roasts himself just fine.

@@finnersmcspeed5646 his London series is as unfinished as London itself Boom roasted

his gf seemed t o o horny for that dud...no?

Yay Liam!

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I know this is a roast, but there's no way he's not a car apologist for real based on what videos of his I've seen.

@@Norfirio Well, he maybe that, but at least he's a breath of fresh air among all those car haters, who want to ban cars and/or make driving inconvenient!

@@dreamingflurry2729 And rightly so. Fuck cars lmao, we should just ban them from cities.

Same, didn’t realize he even had haters lol

@@benhanpeter4790 I legit got this channel recomended, thought "he seems smug" and then he calls out wendover for not being smug. Imagine not feeling drained listing to twitter hottakes getting told what to think mixed in with what you're trying to learn about...

This!

Not Just Bikes > Life Sized City, like a million times. Sorry. But it's true.

@@weetikissa oh yeah I agree entirely. I think Life Sized City isn’t as good of a RU-vid channel. Definitely prefer Not Just Bikes style of content. The dude behind Life sized city I think is more successful with his other projects that aren’t RU-vid.

@@fnyquist8779 But I'm Danish so I want to get MY ego stroked.

some of the takes he presents in videos are very very very extremely yikes presented as neuteal. [roast] He is a spineless puppet with a british accent and no moral compass that will do anything for money. [/roast]

@@Stjaernljus I like his content as it's all over the map, always different. Don't mind the British accent, he is British. Besides most people on youtube are liberal so I just deal with it. T-2024

@@Stjaernljus based Still, I like his content. He's my go-to RU-vidr whenever I can't think of anything to watch

Privatizing amtrak is such a stupid idea

A long time ago I made a joke about his audio quality so it's kinda be a running thing haha

True true

The thing people here don’t like is that he doesn’t give his opinions when that’s what makes his channel so good. His job is not to provide opinions, it’s to give people a basic understanding on interesting and complex logistics. He does that well.

It’s ep 1 of Unfinished Roasts

1:18 Me waiting for the next episode of Unfinished London.