Rob Ager's first impressions of MIDSOMMAR and ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD 

Phil Skovby, Was Shite!!! Death Proof Baaaaaad!!!

@sebastian hale he's saying it is as bad as death proof. he believes it is at such a bad level it is "death proof bad", because in his eyes death proof was a terrible film.

Thank you

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Thank you. Haven’t seen midsummer yet and don’t want any spoilers

I started applauding when QT’s version started playing out.👏😁

Damn I really always wanted to see a serious movie based on the Manson case, did you know Manson wanted to meet Dennis Hopper about Hopper playing him in a movie? Hopper was just like Manson in Apocolypse Now and was about the same height. The Bruce Lee scene slandered Jeet Kune Do, but I`ve heard it was just a fantasy of Brad Pitt`s character or something, shame.

Mark Ant did you know if are the middle 2 letters in life..?

Well, even if the ending of 'Once Upon a Time...' was supposed to be a deliberate mockery of Hollywood happy endings, that still doesn't work for me. The '60s and '70s films were largely a break from that sort of nonsense, so this film still feels dishonest and trivializing of the Manson thing. As for 'Midsommar', I just didn't care about anyone in the film, at all. I didn't buy the cult and none of the characters evoked any feelings of empathy from me. Lovely cinematography, as you said, but I could have watched an hour of 'pretty' and been more satisfied.

OUTIH sucked but I think the ending was essentially the best part. Who really wanted to see Tate murdered?

@@dasein9980 Not me, by any means. I'm old enough to remember the Tate/LaBianca murders, and the last thing I want is to see a recreation of either. But that doesn't change the fact that I think this movie was both dishonest and trivializing.

Yeah that part was really cool. Reminds me of some of my own hallucinogenic experiences back in the day. Problem for me with Midsommar was mainly the ending. Both Hereditary and Midsommar have gruesome endings but Hereditary's left me feeling kinda awestruck, Midsommar's just left me feeling kinda sick and depressed.

i cried too not sure why maybe because Rick got a second chance.

You guy's cried because you're authentic human beings-the scene with Leo holding back tears while checking to the child actress was sweet.Cut Print.

Ditto. I love the fact that Tarantino chose to pay it back by visually turning the tides against those monsters. There was no way to film it alternatively

I'm with you. I know the name is probably a reference to the "Once Upon a Time in China" film series in some way, but - like Django Unchained - I confess I liked the revenge the fantasy provided.

j spain Greene never seen once upon a time in China, but I’m assuming he was looking more at Sergio Leone’s once upon a time films

Me too. Looks great from the trailer.

@@ottohoulihan2743 It does.

High Life with Pattinson (from Claire Denis) was decent, now there's Ad Astra with Brad Pitt which could go either way going on the non revealing advertising (like BR2049).

s p oh I know right it comes out the day before my birthday it’s like my present!

@@cirquedude123 That is like a present - I hope it's as good as it looks to be.

It was also a massive love letter to movies from that era. I can see why it wasn't everyone's cup of tea since there wasn't a whole lot of "plot", but the interactions between the characters were the real star of the show.

I loved the movie, but I do think it was a bit of a bait and switch based on the marketing. People went that thought it was going to be about the Manson family when that wasn’t the focus.

That's it... it's meant to be sort of a relaxed hangout movie, where you just wander around and hang out with these characters. Sort of what he did with Jackie Brown. Inspired by Rio Bravo.

doesn't make it an enjoyable film though...

I loved the film.

Worse, you are looking for worse.

chuck--doesn't change Rob's essential point and the movie was soooo damn long

You said it brother. I dug this flick. Then again I'm a fan of this era which helps a lot.

I sincerely hope so.

The Bruce Lee stuff doesn't bother me, its fantasy.

@John Paul So did most of Hollywood, that doesn't make them pedophiles, it makes them hypocrites and fools. Does this honestly surprise anyone? People tend to defend others who remind them of themselves. Why do cops not want to go after other cops? Why do politicians not want to take down other politicians? Etc.

@Carl Green That's not an opinion, he either is or he isnt.

Yea I know. I hated big Lebowski the first 5 times. It was confusing and boring, and nonsense. But now I kinda enjoy it. It’s not excellent. But it’s enjoyable

Alex Furnas Yeah, I love them both but for different reasons.

I loved both films

I thought they were both fine. Fine enough to watch once. Though his analysis of hereditary does have me interested in a rewatch. Well see

Hereditary was so stupid that I didn't want to watch Midsommer. I wasn't at all surprised that people overwhelmingly disliked it because Hereditary was style over substance (what miniscule substance it had anyway).

I hate them both lol

Midsommar was fantastic.

@@bookeblade Agreed. It’s too bad most people can’t see that.

@@bookeblade in what sense?

None of the characters in Midsommar are really that sympathetic whereas Hereditary has instant pull due to its family drama

What did you like about it?

RossardJames lt was epic. Nothing more nothing less

@@arnemyggen trying to be epic does not make it so

@@spudmckenzie5649 Truer words have never been spoken. Still, it's a 9/10 for me

@@arnemyggen I didn't hate it but definitely hated that I didn't like it more if that makes sense. I won't recommend it to any non QT fan and if Siskel and Ebert were around I wouldn't have a problem with the old thumbs down

You should read Tarantino’s novelisation of the film it’s really in depth and flows real well.

What I couldn't wrap my head around, was how a positive personal development can involve torturing and burning people alive. Even if it was meant to symbolize something like "putting the past behind you", it had a sick spitefulness about it, kind of like a revenge fantasy. Indulging in that sort of thing is kind of the opposite of a positive development. Maybe that contradiction was intended, but the meaning of it is lost on me.

She also stopped taking her medication (Ativan/Lorazapam - benzodiazepines), perhaps she was suffering withdrawals. She was taking those prior to her sisters murder/suicide so she probably was over medicating after (eyes wide open not sleeping in bed scene) When they went to Sweden she stopped and this is probably why she need the sleep aids from Josh. I feel this has something to do with it as Ari Aster intentionally included a shot of the exact medication she was taking. Between that, the hallucinogens, and everyone around her getting brutally murdered I think she just totally broke and gave in to the validation she was receiving as the more than likely preplanned May Queen role.

Think it’s over indulging and pretentious to waste so much money and actors and waste like 1:30 hours of non story. It’s fucking ridiculous when you think about it. I watched a 45 min documentary about Manson And Hollywood that was more interesting than the film. Another wasted opportunity. Also bruce lee was inaccurate as fuck. No idea what he’s doing there.

It's a milieu story. It's not going to appeal to a lot of people. Milieu stories are like "Lord of the Rings" and "Gone With the Wind". For people who want to escape into that milieu, they love it. If you're not nostalgic about the 60s or 70s, yes, parts of this movie will bore you to tears. But for people who are, they love it.

@A A The movie is set in 1969. If you watch enough TV shows and movies from different decades, you can almost guess which decade a TV show or movie you haven't seen before was made. Decades have a particular style that was in vogue.

Ehhhhh it makes the relationship way more one-sided in favor of Dani and removes any sort of potential interest/ambiguity that the original ending offers

@@danielplainview2584 bastard in a basket

Same here, shocked me at first, but then I clicked on to what he was doing, totally loved it

Yes! Agreed, brilliant film! Snyder's movies in general deserve deeper analysis as he evokes paintings, sculpture and religious text in complex ways like Kubrick but doesn't get the same respect or analysis from Ager (or much of anyone for that matter)

Any film that ends with: 'it was all just a dream ' is pure shit from the start off. Lazy storytelling.

@@distortioncharizardalive lol muh themes

@@DronkenDrenthen But Sucker Punch starts as a supposed dream. Also it's not a dream. Also why limit what art can be?

@@SpuddyWesker Idk what you want me to say to that.

I love the long cut anyway so not sure I need the half way version

Depends if one laughs along with Hitler as he views violence or laughs at Hitler as violence is done to him. Oh, wait... ;)

@farenheit041 Yeah, I'm still on the fence about it, so I find everything you say still valid. There's a huge amount of things I wish were done differently that I think would have significantly improved it, but none the less I'm still stuck thinking about the film as it is.

Also I did pay attention to the rest of the video and I completely agree on midsommar haven’t seen the other movie and probably won’t.

My shirt really ties the room together ... hahaha

Hi. This is a REALLY important question (well it is for me at least!) and I would love an answer to it from someone who knows the area... Is there, or isn't there, a serious dissonance between images presented, and nice luxury mansions/estates/apartments and so on, and what you can see outside the door? ...In terms of, apparently, what is it - 30,000+ chronically homeless people in L.A.? Just what is going on, and how are Hollywood producers and writers dealing with the gut-level contradictory indications?

@@interqward1 The short answer is yes, but because of how crowded the city has become in the last ten to fifteen years, it's becoming a problem that can't be so easily ignored. Most Hollywood people, that is the ones who make the real money, live in either the Hollywood Hills, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, or Calabasas, places far from any homeless for the most part. So, the homeless problem in L.A (60,000 folks strong) isn't even in their orbit. The police in those areas make damn sure homeless don't come anywhere the money is firmly planted. So, no, the best you'll ever get out of them is crocodile tears. That said, back in the 90s, the homeless used to have a lot bigger area to roam, most of Downtown L.A. (with the notable exception of Bunker Hill) has been their playground along with much of Venice Beach. However, since there's been a strong effort to redevelop those areas into high end real estate, (think Luxury Lofts in downtown and Silicon Beach in Venice) the homeless have been forced into a smaller and tighter areas. This is a big reason why you're hearing about all the diseases being spread. It doesn't help matters that a large percentage of the homeless are genuinely mentally ill and/or have serious drug addictions. When Reagan defunded all the mental health hospitals ( it didn't help that most of them were run like shit) the mentally ill were just let out onto the streets. We've also had a real problem with hospitals and even other cities shipping and dumping their homeless over here because we supposedly have the facilities to handle them. On top of that, a law passed a few years ago that let a bunch of non-violent offenders out of prison early. Many of them have ended up on the streets here. While there's finally been a push by L.A County and L.A City to do something about it, (IMHO) it's not getting off to a great start. While, the county in going to start building some mental health facilities, the actually act of sheltering all these people is still a hot potato that no politician really wants to handle. The city is spending 12 million to shelter only 150 homeless, so you can get an idea about efficient this is all going. Fun fact: All the shit a homeless guy carries around is his private property, so you can't just throw all those shopping carts full of junk in the trash.

@@josephmarble2371 Thank you so much for answering so comprehensively. It's more or less a 'study' that you posted but it also shows that if 'ordinary' people 'out of the power loop' as it were can come to grips with the fundamental factors of the situation - well, as you pointed out: the money that is being spent to shelter only 150 calls into question the efficiency and integrity too, of the exercise, maybe. I mean, you also sound like maybe not just any 'ordinary person,' either though frankly... : ) ...Now, if only we could raise some production money, eh. I mean for films though, not solving all the present social crises.

Ohh that’s a good point

I've known friends who were at Finish midsummer festivals and you guys can't talk lol! 'A load of Scadies wandering around, pissed outta their heads at 10 am' was how they described your festivals!

@@davidlean1060 That's pretty accurate 😅

@@tonitsi78 The lad who was there loved the weirdness of it all actually. Coincidentally, he is fair haired and fair skinned himself, so he look like a local!

I'd add Cliff Booth is part of that lower class, the one doing the grunt work (including in the big finale)

great point

Amadeus Debussy oh because you’ve sat in the editing room with Tarantino while he edited frames huh? Stfu

@@MikkyTranscends I don't need to have, I can see the results.

Amadeus Debussy in order for your original comment to make any sense at all.. you’d be saying that you’ve seen versions of Tarantino films that were edited without him around?? .. (which don’t exist) Because how else would one know he can direct a great movie, just can’t edit it correctly afterwards? lmao that’s absurd..They’re HIS films🤷🏻‍♂️ Your statement was just senseless tbh and I had to call you on it. He’s a terrific storyteller/entertainer IMO and you clearly know JACK SHIT about the filmmaking process. #besafe #cinemaforever

@@MikkyTranscends I know a scene that should have been cut when I see one, and QT's films are full of them (cough, cough Deathproof anyone?). That said, I like his films, I just think there's a lot of superfluous stuff in some of them.

Mindhunter series I very much liked and looking forward to the next one. Had already read a lot about several of the cases and profilers so it was great to see them faithfully done in fiction form.

It's a good show. One aspect of S2 that bothers me is that Wendy is apparently only used to shoehorn a lesbian angle into the story. Too forced. Still a good show. Lot's of atmosphere and great music selection.

Yes, I'd forgot to mention that, but it stood out when watching the movie.

@@robag555 I believe that scene is a real experience Tarantino had, seems way out of place. Very creepy as well.

Tarantino also went out of his way to put her ass in the middle of the camera and show her armpits to us: He sexualized her character. So, the anti-pedo interpretation is pretty unlikely.

Why do you think he included that scene?

I haven't managed to get a copy yet.

I love Tarantinos "what if" endings. Welcome break from the usual shite. I sure as hell didn't want to see what really happened in that house.

Yeah "pumpkin puss" was just fucking weird.

Yeah. If you have to resort to narration in a film with this running time then you fucked up.

What did you like about OUTIH?

dasein Performances, music choices, shot composition, sense of humor, recreation of the 60s in both culture and architecture, narrative structure, the characters (mainly Leo’s), and I found the ending very satisfying, although it did feel very jarring and not the greatest reflection of the tone that the film had set previously. Just to name a few

Rotten Toms and IMDB seem to have really bad bias toward new movies. I strongly suspect film studio moles flooding those cites with fake positive reviews.

Yeah it was loads of fun to watch imo.

Is Midsommar a jungle fever and cuck wussy movie?

@@patkay5036 English is not my mother language, so forget about slang. Translate into Christian and I will provide answer to your weird question.

I agree. While I like HEREDITARY more, I thought MIDSOMMAR was pretty comparable. Kind of disappointed that Rob couldn’t pick up on all of the details on MS. I also never felt the time on MS.

You don't need likeable characters for a good story.

@@TheDominitri And this wasn't a good story. It was gratuitous and nauseating.

TheDominitri you do when it’s a horror film

Agreed. I got the feeling that the director HATED his characters, especially the main character.

directors cut i r e c t o r s c u t

That's about Manson isn't it. Not read it yet.

@@robag555 it's much more up-close account on the manson and his followers. it shows how the commune functioned