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Rob Bell: Jesus, Domitian and The Book of Revelation 

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Jesus, Domitian and The Book of Revelation
- Rob Bell at Willow Creek Community Church
“Domitian was the first emperor to understand that behind the Christian movement there stood an enigmatic figure who threatened the glory of the emperors. He was the first to declare war on this figure …” - Ethelbert Stauffer
Additional information: Jesus Wants to Save Christians: Chapter Five, Part Two by Rob Bell and Don Golden - tinyurl.com/y8...
Robert Holmes "Rob" Bell Jr. (born August 23, 1970) is an American author, motivational speaker and former pastor. Bell was the founder of Mars Hill Bible Church located in Grandville, Michigan, which he pastored until 2012. Under his leadership Mars Hill was one of the fastest-growing churches in America. He is also the author of the New York Times bestseller Love Wins and the writer and narrator of a series of spiritual short films called NOOMA

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Комментарии : 44   
@colindoyle6657
@colindoyle6657 2 года назад
Bell demonstrates that context is crucial in understanding this confusing and decisive book. Wish Bell's books are footnoted and quotes sources!
@racheladkins6060
@racheladkins6060 5 месяцев назад
Every one should see this.
@MistyMarie1970
@MistyMarie1970 4 года назад
Wow I came across this while looking for history of the area, such a good presentation, many of us forget to think of the trials that Christians went through and still go through in that part of world. Thankyou in Jesus name for a valuable reminder to remind ourselves we are all part of a bigger picture.
@racheladkins6060
@racheladkins6060 Год назад
I’m convince an American Christian that no the covid vaccine IS NOT the mark of the beast. Are all Americans this insane? Maybe religious fundamentalism is making people mentally sick? Voltaire was right. And people keep taking scripture out of its context to the time and place it was written. John was writing a letter using common Jewish ways of communicating but which the Roman Empire couldn’t undo or understand. This presentation by Rob Bell makes sense. Thank goodness for sensible people like Rob. I’m glad I live in the U.K.
@fivegoalseason
@fivegoalseason 4 года назад
finally someone who reads
@jaysunfjord7390
@jaysunfjord7390 2 года назад
I would love to see the original sources for this.
@daniel4492
@daniel4492 Год назад
The second person with the historical approach to revelation. We cannot just approach revelation with a future mindset. Also present and past. That puts the puzzle pieces together.
@erikdolnack2737
@erikdolnack2737 3 года назад
Ephesus was famous for its magnificent temple to the goddess Artemis (Diana), who was worshiped in Ephesus as a fertility goddess.
@Moribus_Artibus
@Moribus_Artibus Год назад
Anybody who has a problem with Augustus, may read his speech to the soldiers before the Battle of Actium against Cleopatra and Antony in the history book by Senator Cassius Dio. Augustus was a man of honor, we have a whole month named after him
@danmannz
@danmannz 8 месяцев назад
Rev 17. 6th ruler is Nero. Hes current. Sorry we aren't in AD96. Irenaeus was wrong on AD96 and he was also wrong on the antichrist.
@TheWchurchill4pm
@TheWchurchill4pm 5 лет назад
What are his sources for all of this Roman history and Roman customs/religion?
@fivegoalseason
@fivegoalseason 4 года назад
its called research and not Faith
@fivegoalseason
@fivegoalseason 4 года назад
Ceasar Messiah is a good source
@joesteele3159
@joesteele3159 4 года назад
@@fivegoalseason A person can research and still have faith. In fact, you still have to have faith in your sources that you research.
@fivegoalseason
@fivegoalseason 4 года назад
@@joesteele3159 yes but inelegant people will look for consistencies and evidences of other Civilisations predating Christ, and the new world. And see what the religions were in depth and and explained, rather than short summaries. For example tablets from the stone age, etc. These saurces are reliable, some evidence cannot be messed with. If there is no evidence that is a worry, we found People of Khemit from over 4000 years ago. Human remains from 200000 years ago, forgive me for prefering to have knowledge than faith
@joesteele3159
@joesteele3159 4 года назад
@@fivegoalseason So you think knowledge contradicts faith?
@andrewmartens8819
@andrewmartens8819 3 года назад
Earthquakes a symbol of a change of order possibly? 5 earthquakes noted in Revelation. Five changes of order. The first three referring to fulfilled prophecy. The last two associated with the judgment and the destruction of the earth.
@danmannz
@danmannz 8 месяцев назад
55:00 John never uses the name Domitian, but he uses the name Nero.
@danmannz
@danmannz Год назад
I love how amill's forget about Nero and how to decode prophecy from Daniel 7. Gotta love the quote from Ethelbert Stauffer (May 8, 1902 in Friedelsheim - August 1, 1979), sounds like a good trusted source! What about the 3.5 years of persecution of christians under Nero? ! So Domitian is the beast now? how dare he root out corruption and end Neptunism ! sounds like a real bad guy to me ! there are worst places in the world today for Christians than what happened generally speaking across the empire in this guys reign. Domitian took the power away form the senate, you trust his political appointments to give you an honest and unbiased account? Sounds like Domitian borrowed from a certian letter that was released prior to keep hold of people if you ask me !
@racheladkins6060
@racheladkins6060 5 месяцев назад
I bet Trump would love Domitian ?
@racheladkins6060
@racheladkins6060 Год назад
And millions of Christian people voted for Emperor Trump! Go figure? And that includes Stryper and many Christian rock bands and pastors, shame on you all!
@lilgrasshoppah
@lilgrasshoppah 4 года назад
what a goof.
@HellomuSic1296
@HellomuSic1296 Год назад
You are rebuked in the name of Jesus christ.
@lilgrasshoppah
@lilgrasshoppah Год назад
⁠@@HellomuSic1296 I called him a goof because he presented ahistorical, decontextualized, mostly fictional story, through a corrupt lens. His presentation is childish, ignorant, and biased. So yeah. He’s a goof. And the best response you can come up with is a supernatural threat? My feelings are very hurt. I might even cry on my pillow later.
@TNCelt1
@TNCelt1 5 месяцев назад
Avoid this wolf.
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