Listen to Anthrax - they`ve always put the bass way up in the mix, and it`s tight. Metallica`s songs would be amazing with that kind of mix / production.
If I ever make a record with a band I will be intent on making the bass as big and audible as possible. I'm not a bass player but records where you hear the bass just sound so much better, it's probably the one thing about Metallica and a lot of metal bands that sucks the most. The bass just gets drowned out or is virtually non existent yet you listen to a band like Tool and the bass is so present it makes everything sound so much more tight.
Amen. I can't understand why Metallica has so little bass presence, especially being as influenced by NWOBHM bands as they were. Listening to a lot of those bands, the bass is usually up there, good and loud, with its own space in the mix, and it sounds killer. Metallica themselves had this sound going somewhat on their cover of "Blitzkrieg", one of their best sounding tunes imho.
I know some parts in extremely rapid-beat songs are almost impossible to play with fingers even if you use all 4 of your fingers to pluck, but it's still odd to see Robert Trujillo using a pick when playing bass. I still dig him. Probably one of the fastest fingerstyle bass players there are right now I've seen. Incredible. As hard as I try I cannot play that fast unless I cheat and skip a note here and there throughout the measures.
Dude Everyone know what Cliff was for Metallica, his fingers in the first albums from Metallica are priceless, but my boy Roberto is in another level, damn. He deserves more in Metallica for real
Me being a Latino and American I am really proud of Mr. Trujillo and Metallica for giving him a chance on that Amazing Metal Band. Saw the video on when they afford him that sign on Bonus. That was freakin awesome.
Too bad you can't here shit when he plays live its like he's bass is toned down I bet it has something to do with that contract agreement he signed when joining metallica cause he has so much potential
listen to load and reload. you can hear bass perfectly on those albums. also on kill em all. and frankly i don't have any problem with hearing bass on death magnetic, exept on some parts
no, that's not how it works. The drums are the only thing they record playing all at once, all the other instruments are recorded everyone on it's on. You can see both James and Kirk doing what Rob is doing here.
When most bands record, it's common for band members to do their part and step out. After you've rehearsed the song 250 times, recorded it over many hours, you don't want to hear the guitarist or bass player doing 50 takes to get it "just right". The producer is the guy driving the show at that point, then the band listens and they might come back in to do alterations.
It's a shame that basically every Metallica album is kinda lacking in bass. I guess that's a draw back to deep chugging guitars that it kinda covers up the bass.
I honestly couldn't say much about the mix, other than it hurt my ears when I first tried to listen to it. The sheer compression alone was unpleasant, never have listened to the entire thing.
I was there and it was amazing OMG i remember robert playing his bass helicopter technique and it sounded amazing but what blew my mind was his crabwalk bass skill that sounded out of this world. Not even cliff could do that on bass. Sorry cliff fans but it is what it is
I know it's a year late, but bump your high mids, use stainless steel strings, have a low action, strong attack, and compress the hell out of it. That should get you in the ballpark. You can add a little overdrive to get a little more grit, just EQ the low end back in after the overdrive tries to suck it away
@@dupgab no problem, I have been trying to figure out that "modern metal" tone for a little while now and that has gotten me pretty close to what I want 🤷♂️
You understand that when he stands in the power stance, he's actually pushing his bass forward, and tilting it upward, and he's bent over it more often than not. Doing this allows him to see his bass more clearly, and help to not fuck up the music he's playing.
Exactly. On the ...And Justice For All album, you can barely hear the bass. But if you listened to enhanced bass, you can hear what Jason is doing. I think that if they turned the bass back up to the Master of Puppets album, than it would be AWESOME.
God, Death Magnetic was such a solid record. Something happened to those guys on that album. It was like they were hungry again. I guess Rick Rubin making them listen to everything they cut their teeth on in the early 80s paid off.