Rock Climb better INSTANTLY - 4 beginner mistakes to avoid

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New to climbing? Check out the video to avoid common beginner rock climbing mistakes. Are you someone who tried out rock climbing, but your arms always get fatigued really fast? Check out the video to improve your climbing techniques.
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@bethanycoram617 7 лет назад

As a climbing instructor I see these literally all the time most days of the week 😂 it's nice to see someone point them out but also show how to correct it 👍🏻 you're super helpful and clear in this vid and if anyone ever asks me I'm totally gonna point them in the direction of this channel

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find this video helpful and clear!

@ormo5779 6 лет назад

@Jacob Harris Hey, I work as a bouldering instructor in Finland, and I had been climbing for about 7-8 years before applying and getting the job.

@conjj17 5 лет назад

@@ormo5779 Hey, can you live off being a climbing instructor? Also, for someone just starting out, what is the minimum time requirement you believe to be a climbing instructor?

@Felix-ii2wd 7 лет назад

This manz is hitting me with some mind-blowing strength statistics

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you like the statistics!

@Gregorio416 3 года назад

Thanks for the content-packed tips. It’s really annoying looking for information when I have to wade through people talking 5x as much and being 1/2 as helpful

@MaxKingsbury 7 лет назад

I would add excessive crimping to the list. I see many novice climbers clinging way too hard to handholds, when they could relax and use a more open hand grip, preventing forearm pump and reducing injury.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

This is a good one. I also saw a lot of novice climbers clinging way too hard on handholds. I also mentioned about the crimping problem in my injury prevention video.

@Jever21 6 лет назад

thank uuuu

@MrCmon113 3 года назад

I don't want to fall off, that's all. Doesn't look safe. : (

@goals101 5 лет назад

These were such simple yet true remarks. As a beginner, I totally understand what you are saying. In some other videos it takes me forever to get the point!

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you find the video helpful! I always tried my best to explain these tips around 3 mins!

@Wistbacka 3 года назад

Thanks for the excellent video. As a beginner myself, climbing with my much more experienced friends, in addition to what you told here there are two more things I think you forgot: 1) Keep your body as close to the wall as possible at all times. Obviously not always possible, but a real energy saver when you dont have to counter gravity as much. 2) while pure arm strength shouldn't matter as much, just as you explain, but grip/finger strength very much does. As does muscle endurance. I have friends that are less strong than me, but with better technique and much better muscle endurance and they can climb much longer than I. Point is for beginners to understand, that even if they climb correctly, they will get tired faster due to not have trained their endurance, and thus shouldn't feel bad about themselves.

@DanielGallagherMusic 7 лет назад

I've introduced a looot of people to bouldering/rock climbing over the past year, and I've developed an almost identical list of four things to pay attention to. 1) Use your legs more. Probably try to move both feet for every one hand hold. (I think that helps materialize the advice to use your legs more). 2) Use your toes, better traction and you can push yourself up an extra few centimeters. 3) Keep your arms stretched as much as possible, especially while thinking. 4) Lead with your hips, it helps extend your reach and can help you keep one arm mostly stretched while still reaching to the next hold. That's what I've been telling everyone, but the quads being 2x the strength, and the stretched arms being 1.7x definitely beefs up the argument for those two points. I've intuitively learned not to barn door, and I pass that on by example, but I haven't been able to step back and realize the recurring error in beginners there. I'll definitely throw that into the advice I give from now on. I appreciate the video! Super easy to understand and 100% true!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Hey Daniel, glad you like the video. I like your list, too! It is very helpful for beginners as well.

@smin3211 6 лет назад

thank you for materialising the 'using your legs more' thing because it's honestly so confusing at the beginning

@Zejety 6 лет назад

Beginner here. I appreciate the advice from both the video and this comment. One thing I'd also like to contribute which I've recently picked up from a similar video is to keep your center of gravity close to the wall. Many people told me to keep my arms longs since I've started but I tended to interpret that as leaning away from the wall on my arms, when what I should have done is bend my knees more. That also leads back into #1 of putting more emphasize on your legs.

@again7pyms 6 лет назад

Zejety yes! I had(still have haha) the same problem when trying to keep my arms straight, I often automatically stick my ass out haha ;'D I'm trying to bend my knees more :'D

@randyohm3445 6 лет назад

When a new climber gets stuck, like 80% of the time what they need to do is move their feet up. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen someone get stuck because they can't reach the next hold, but they have one foot stretched down on a low hold and are ignoring higher footholds that would move them up easily. So I tell people who are just starting out "when in doubt, move your feet up," and "feet, then hands," just to get them to remember to pay attention to their feet. I've even seen people climb with bells on their shoes, just to remember to keep track of them!

@burnsloads 6 лет назад

Thanks man. I totally thought it was mostly arm. I'm more confident in starting now

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You're welcome. Have fun rock climbing!

@nathanbey-smith631 6 лет назад

Thanks so much for these tips, couple of people at my gym told me about the straight arms and all, but you giving concrete examples and video footage was very helpful! Thanks alot!

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You are welcome and glad you find it helpful!

@theflowercouch975 7 лет назад

I just tried rock climbing for the first time and my arms are basically wet spaghetti noodles and I can CONFIRM THIS. The times I failed were the times I had my arms bent too much! Thanks for these tips, I am 100% going to have to focus on my toes more next time.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Welcome to the rock climbing community! Glad you find the tips helpful!

@Jever21 6 лет назад

im going today for first time.. im nervous

@JacobKinsley 3 года назад

@@Jever21 how did it go

@missjamiekaren 7 лет назад

Great video! I kept hearing barn-dooring and wasn't sure what it was until this!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad my video helped you!

@pootassopick 3 года назад

I actually played the climb in vr and now I want to get into rock climbing, and i found this channel, THANK YOU SIR.

@JacobKinsley 3 года назад

Me too lol. It makes you realise how inaccurate the game is though, like how hanging freely by your hands consumes as much stamina as being on a wall, and how you can super mario jump with one hand stretched out fully away from you

@coltish 6 лет назад

Great video. I'm an amateur climber and this is my first time ever hearing of barn dooring. I'm excited to see how it goes next time I climb. I will say that for some people it's better to have a little bend in the elbows depending on how warmed up and loose their muscles are. I injured my left elbow because I wasn't warmed up and I put too much weight on a straight arm.

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Warming up before climbing is definitely crucial. Let me know how it goes next time when you climb!

@gregguerra870 5 лет назад

Geek Climber I never warm up and climb just fine and have never been injured because I didn’t warm up and I only climb outdoors!

@batallatrainer 6 лет назад

Awesome. This tips are the most important things to climb and incredibly, there are a lot of "professional" climbers who make this mistakes too often. Great video, simple but great.

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you like the video. I also have to constantly remind myself not to make these mistakes, too.

@GamingVids1984 6 лет назад

Thanks for the great video. I'm a complete beginner and this is the video that put me on the right track to climbing properly.

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You're welcome! Have fun climbing!

@cdcdcd6777 6 лет назад

man.... i looove how super nerdy but informative you are!!! keep up the great vids!!

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find the video helpful! Definitely more videos to come!

@user-zl5gi8sv7u 7 лет назад

the quads are far more than 2x stronger than biceps haha

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Hey Justin, if you look at the numbers of an average person's leg press vs bench press it's approximately 2x. An example website will be strengthlevel.com/strength-standards.

@user-zl5gi8sv7u 7 лет назад

bench press is not a bicep dominant movement. Just saying I can barbell curl (bicep isolation) waaaaayyy less than I can leg extension (quad isolation) Just saying. Doesn't really matter though you are still right.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Thanks Justin for the correction. In the video I mentioned "at least" so I am still technically right, but I am pinning your comments so others can see it if they are interested in the details.

@Benijermin 7 лет назад

Justin Miller I was also going to mention that pulling with "arms" uses a lot more than just your biceps. Same with "legs" uses a lot more than your quadriceps. I think you know that, and I agree with what you're saying, your example just wasn't the best.

@Actualhumanlive 6 лет назад

I do all of that, and can do 25 pullups, still can’t hold onto a v3 hold because my forearms and hands are too weak

@scoobtoober2975 Год назад

Dear Nerd from a fellow nerd. I'm glad i found you even before i started climbing. It was a new thing to get intrigued by. Now we went once and were hooked. Now i'm officially hooked after the third time. Love it. But i will say, i saw several dudes not ladies. Grabbing forearms after a send and were really hurt or sore. I don't want an injury. You have talked about that before with your problems. Any more tips lately. Work up to it. Don't hangboard. or do hangboard. do calisthenics instead on off days. Enough rest days before going again. Work the core and legs more? You and magnus got me inspired and fired up to go. Then i can only do v3's but not all of them yet. Crimpy 3's are good. slab or sloper 3's not so much.

@joeyvaryl8982 5 лет назад

I’m so happy I found this page. I’ve been intrigued by rock climbing for so long and I’m looking to join a gym in a few weeks. Planning on purchasing a hang board to enhance my finger strength

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Welcome to the rock climbing community man! I am sure you will find a lot of joy in rock climbing!

@joeyvaryl8982 5 лет назад

Geek Climber thanks dude I’m stoked. Heading to a gym in the city today to get a workout in 💪🏼

@jessevanderheijden5208 7 лет назад

Ashima is ridiculously strong though

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

I am sure she can't bench press as much as me and you, but she has really good technique and has very high strength to weight ratio.

@macruizphotography 7 лет назад

Jesse van der Heijden devils advocate on that though. Ashima weight to strength ratio especially her hang time is far superior most climbers. for instance I just got started back into climbing and weigh 219 now vs my 125 when i was 11. I'm way physically stronger now with same technique. (you don't really forget) but I have hit a ceiling with certain moves where dynamic climbing is killing me because I physically can't hold on or do campus moves till I cut weight or get far stronger (or both).

@neokillar 7 лет назад

How much does she weigh? And do you know her height?

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Somewhere around 40kg and 155cm, but she is still growing.

@ChristopherSiegel 7 лет назад

neokillar und

@laxrulz7 7 лет назад

I think a big fifth one would be "Using the inside of your foot too much". Beginner's are frequently "duck toed" against the wall (straight facing the wall with both feet turned outwards). This puts your hips far away and makes most moves much, much harder and farther.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Great one. This is usually one of some advice I give beginners once they learn not to step on hold with middle foot.

@WEIDYNASTYMONK 5 лет назад

just started climbing and love it

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful man.

@thaipham3472 6 лет назад

thanks for these tips, this help a lot with my first time doing bouldering

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find the tips helpful!

@topspeedjunkie1 6 лет назад

After I wrote my last.post I spent 6 hours at the climbing gym and thanks to tips garnered here and the help finding the beta from the amazing climbing community here in Kingston ontario I was able to check off every single intermediate route and 2 more advanced routes. Although I am still using far to much muscle. I am 6'1 240 pounds and work out between 4 and 6 times a week so i am the entire wrong body type but again thanks to tips garnered herw I am overcoming with technique. Thanks again keep up the amazing vids

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

I am very glad to hear that you’re making even more progress! I have a few more videos in queue so stay tuned!

@alexnunez4019 2 года назад

Best explanation on barn dooring so far. Thanks a lot!

@FlyCastingColorado 5 лет назад

Awesome video I just started rock climbing and I did everything wrong that you said not to do 😂 I know this will definitely help thanks for posting

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you find the video helpful and welcome to the climbing community my friend!

@topspeedjunkie1 6 лет назад

Your glasses are bent my friend and thank you for doing these videos thanks to you I conquered an advanced boulder route and have only been climbing for 4 weeks

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You are most welcome and congrats on finishing the advanced route! I am actually planning to get a new pair of glasses, haha.

@RachelGamblin 5 лет назад

Numbers!! ^w^ Even with this simple explanation. True geek and I love it. You're videos are so helpful!

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you like the video! I am a big fan of numbers too!

@sam111880 7 лет назад

great video yes i wish i knew that the first time i climbed... barn dooring it takes longer if you got to worry about balancing.. and never knew about the toe on rocks as opposed middle foot ... darn i feel like retrying this again

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

It's never too late to learn! It took me a while to figure all these out myself when I first started.

@jamestopic2880 2 года назад

Great tips! I did all of these things wrong.

@paulwernichdesigns 5 лет назад

Shot for the video. You’re going to help me not barn door anymore, thank you.

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

You're welcome! Have fun climbing!

@paulwernichdesigns 5 лет назад

Thanks, bro. You too. Your channel is a great resource for climbing tips. Thank you for all the work you have put into building it up. 🤙🏻

@thealvaco 7 лет назад

Good tips. simple yet effective.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you like them!

@khakicampbell6640 Год назад

Lots of info in less than 3 minutes, good job!

@jesusmanueldelcamposalva8609 Год назад

Man, you're definitely the geek climber with those data points, the 1.7x stronger straight arms was one that surprised me!

@shaunoleary8740 2 года назад

Thanks for this buddy, very helpful!

@AbhiT2 7 лет назад

love your accent 😀

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Haha thanks!

@cosigi 6 лет назад

This is great! I'm going to start climbing at the end of August, been watching your content!!!

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Awesome! Have fun climbing!

@foxygrandpafoo96 7 лет назад

this guy climbs at mesa rim san diego! so weird to recognize the problems on the wall

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Haha mesa rim is the best gym I've ever been to.

@57shanus 7 лет назад

+Geek Climber First thing I noticed when watching! Gym buddies!!!

@Minecrafter6818 5 лет назад

Thanks for video! Tomorrow I going to a rock climbing tomorrow! Thanks!

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

You’re welcome! Let me know if the tips are helpful!

@Minecrafter6818 5 лет назад

Geek Climber yep, they were! It was amazing! Again, thanks!

@olamanola89 6 лет назад

I'm guilty of number 1 and 2. Thanks for the vid! :)

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find it useful!

@Jever21 6 лет назад

im nervous for today. 1st timer

@neokillar 7 лет назад

Nice video. If you ever get big I can say I knew about you when you only had 474 subscribers!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Thanks! I appreciate your support!

@FabiusPyromanus 6 лет назад

one year later and he is now at 24k. Great job!

@staxxonstaxx6264 4 года назад

the reason you sit static on straight arms is less to do with strength and more to do with the fact that you aren't engaging as many muscle groups. Also that wasn't barndooring (although it can happen when on both one sides hand and toe), and being on one side can be advantageous depending on the route.

@RyokanDaigu 2 года назад

Great advice! Many thanks!!

@austindapker 7 лет назад

thanks for the video my man, very helpful.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful!

@EspenHelland 6 лет назад

Great beginner tips! Thanks 🙂

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You are welcome!

@Ryanlim25 7 лет назад

This guy's got the Asian persuasion man 👍🏻 great tips for a beginner like myself!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find them helpful!

@matiaskuusela 4 года назад

Straight arms does not always apply when climbing slab and the footholds are better than handholds. Also beginners usually have rental shoes and also too big shoes. When you buy your own which holds better you usually start trusting and using your feet more.

@ashley1scott 7 лет назад

Rest on straight arms as it's 1.7 times stronger than on a bend arms ? If you are resting on a straight arm then it is grip strength that will fail as you are transferring your weight to bone, where as on a bent arm it will be muscle failure that will cause you to fall.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

It's probably even more than 1.7 times. An average guy can deadlift a lot more weight than the weights for barbell curl.

@anteeantee8144 2 года назад

strength is still a component iam a weight lifter and for me total strength is important for climbing relative strength is important: your strength in relation to your body weight you dont have to be super strong if you are very light (at least for climging) and the heavier you get the more your total strength grows but the curve flattens more and more your relative strength decreases the heavier you get of course at the beginning technique is more important and will give you the most progress i started bouldering and iam super strong in the hook i can hang for ages on a handle with one arm but iam super weak in the pinch because iam very heavy and never pinch so i started working on my pinch

@AriThecraftydragon Год назад

Nice tips. Thanks!

@Cragcloud 5 лет назад

Really great tips and great channel you got here! Just subbed!

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you find the information helpful! More awesome videos to come!

@Cragcloud 5 лет назад

Geek Climber sounds great! Looking forward to those 😄

@juniper3847 6 лет назад

Thanks for the video! This was really helpful :D

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful!

@jasonshih3633 Год назад

Thanks for the tips. my calisthenics ego is like "no use legs, just muscle up all the way up"

@dennis78900 3 года назад

Could you please share the source about straight arm strength being 1.7x stronger than bent arm ? It is really an interesting point

@JordanWthereal Год назад

Ty for this video. It is perfect.

@chantevandyk7155 6 лет назад

This helps so much

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful!

@steinretzlaff 5 лет назад

Hell yeah. Learned a lot here. Thank you.

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you learned a lot from the video!

@user-ke8dm1ie1g 6 лет назад

非常喜欢您的视频，里面的内容我都记下了笔记，最近在爬V1出现了难点，一直找不到突破口，看了您的视频，突然意识到了问题所在，今晚按您的方法试试看～

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find the video helpful! Let me know how it goes!

@spencerflynn7743 6 лет назад

great video my friend keep it coming

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you like them. I got a bit busy recently but I have one new video in the making. Stay tuned!

@nicholasdorazio10 3 года назад

Your the man,I subscribed!

@bgtip 6 лет назад

Finally some good tips

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you find the tips useful!

@CalvinArterberry 6 лет назад

great tips thank you for sharing

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You are welcome and glad you find them helpful.

@susanstebila8707 2 года назад

🌴💥You are a valuable teacher💥…Thanks 👏👏👏🌴

@April_com 6 лет назад

很喜欢你在这个视频中的讲述方式😁😁😁

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you like it!

@cwiehle0 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

You are welcome!

@sdaiwepm Год назад

0:51 How to use mainly legs on overhangs?

@NewPanda88 7 лет назад

Solid advice

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@davidn9472 6 лет назад

Looks like Mesa rim! 😆🤙🏾

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Because it is!

@BulletproofLeprosy 6 лет назад

0:56 you look like Popeye with those forearms :)

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Climbers usually have larger forearms!

@LisaMichele 7 лет назад

These are really good tips!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful!

@piersonm5574 3 года назад

0:55 man those are some impressive forearms

@jbbarlow90 5 лет назад

Good stuff!

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Glad you like it!

@DaleZawada 6 лет назад

Nice video! Shame about some of these comments.

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you like the video!

@OneBrakeHarmonic 7 лет назад

Helpful video!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful!

@nera6665 5 лет назад

Im a climber and honestly sometimes my hands feel like im not strong enough

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

I think even if your hands are super weak you can still get to about V2 with pure technique, but from that point on you will need to gain strength for your hands.

@leetledrummerboy 5 лет назад

Im sure that little girl does have weak biceps, but she also probably weighs around 70 lbs. I'm 220 and feel like I could really use some more arm and finger strength.

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Time flies so fast! Ashima is going to compete in the 2020 olympics!

@xxrgxxcasco 7 лет назад

Straight arms are only optimal in overhangs. On slab rock, it is better to pull with your arms enough to set all your weight on your feet.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

No, straight arms are still better than bent arms on slabs. Unless the foot holds are so good that you can put your entire weight on your feet then it doesn't make much difference. You can always adjust your body position so you are leaning on the wall while your arms are still straight at the same time.

@xxrgxxcasco 7 лет назад

Geek Climber that is true, but if you are on a slab, and the confortable holds (slab holds are small) are at shoulder height, stretching your arms would mean leaning too far away from the wall, forcing you to grip tight. I guess we can agree that we are both right, and it is just a matter of the situation the climber is on.

@mrsallensucks92795 6 лет назад

Ha! Is this at Mesa Rim in Mission Valley?

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Yes it is!

@Simon-gz6kc 5 лет назад

Many of your videos are funnand ibteresting 😁 niceee

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Haha glad you like my videos!

@aidan8640 5 лет назад

Good vid. Who is slapping themselves in the background tho lol...

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

I don’t think anyone is 😆. Why do you think there’s someone slapping in the background?

@chany112 7 лет назад

Do you climb in Hong Kong? Love your techniques, really helpful!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Glad you find it helpful. I would love to visit Hong Kong sometime!

@umi_nari 7 лет назад

yey. nice video man , thks!

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

glad you like it!

@jez1548 2 года назад

Barn dooring - same side arm and leg = peeling off wall

@avonnabors 6 лет назад

hey just found you channel. nice content!

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Glad you like my channel! There will be more awesome videos coming!

@avonnabors 6 лет назад

Geek Climber nice!!

@christinegerard4974 6 лет назад

Thanks for your advices.Can you speak more slowly please for strangers not so good in english but fond of climbing ? I am very interested by your comparaisons ...Thanks a lot .

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback I will certainly speak slower next time! In the meantime all my videos have captions so you can turn it on to help.

@user-mq3pu3gh4k 6 лет назад

Go to 1:11 with subtitles

@GeekClimber 6 лет назад

There are subtitles for the entire video.

@TOmaynardOL 7 лет назад

Looks like Mesa Rim in SD.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Yes! The best gym I've ever been to.

@williamdinning6876 7 лет назад

Is that mesa rim??

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

Yes it is!

@somedude84961 6 лет назад

Hell yeah!

@Richybabes 3 года назад

The point on arm strength is a little disingenuous. It's not about arm strength in a vacuum, but rather proportional to your weight. As a 100kg guy starting climbing, arm strength is absolutely a limiting factor in many routes. That girl you showcased probably has a strength to weight ratio 4x or more what I have.

@leongtinglui4600 7 лет назад

The problem is with finger strength. Straight arms require more finger strength hence hard for beginners.

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

I don't think so, it depends more on the holds. The holds on V0s and V1s are mostly jugs.

@Kompigirl 7 лет назад

i don't understand the last one, what's barn dooring, and what is the correct way to climb?

@GeekClimber 7 лет назад

It means only your right hand and right foot are on the wall, or your left hand and left foot are on the wall. The correct way will be having both feet on the wall, right hand and left foot on the wall, or left hand and right foot on the wall.

@Kompigirl 7 лет назад

Geek Climber ahhh okay thank you🤗

@user-ej7sg1uw8k Год назад

this really helped for a badge in girl scouts.

@valcattt7906 5 лет назад

The dyno at the front tho

@GeekClimber 5 лет назад

Dyno is not really recommended for beginners 😆.

@jacob.rausch Год назад

Mr geek, you do not understand... The struggle of being too weak is true and it arises with the enemies most commonly known as "crimps" and "overhung climbs"