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rock island armory m206 VS colt detective special BATJAC J.W 

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@jamiehess4211
@jamiehess4211 3 года назад
Rock Island looks like a good truck or backpack gun. Cheap and reliable. The Colt is a work of art.
@PPISAFETY
@PPISAFETY 6 лет назад
I have several of these guns in both the Model 206 format (2-inch) and the Model 200 (4-inch). After thoroughly testing them for reliability (all have passed) I keep them around as defensive guns in places where a gun might be stolen, or used very roughly, or taken as evidence. They are by no means "junk" as some claim, just not finely finished. The really good news is if I lost all four of mine, I wouldn't be out as much money as if I lost one of my Colts. I bought my last Model 206 this past week for $160 used and that included two boxes of ammo. It now rides in a tool box in the trunk of my car. A brand new 4-inch recently set me back $214. Extremely good value for money. I do the same thing with a Rock Island Armory GI 1911 in .45 ACP as my main home defense gun. I've shot all of mine out to 25 yards on a standardized police course, and if I were still on the job, would have qualified with all of them. I doubt that any bad guy would ever notice that he had not been shot with a pretty Colt. Are there downsides to this gun? Yes. First of all, do not let anyone tell you the 200 or 206 is the same size as a Colt D frame. It isn't. None of my leather holsters for my Detective Specials fit exactly (too small) except for one cheap nylon holster which is generic fit. Actually, the RIA fits perfectly in holsters designed for the K-frame Smith and Wesson, which fortunately is the most common revolver holster in the world. The grips for a D-frame Colt unfortunately do not fit the Rock Island either, even though many videos say they do. Actually, the current production M206 2-inch exposed hammer models come with two sets of grips, the small wood ones shown in this video, and a set of larger and pretty comfortable black rubber grips made for it. Unfortunately, when you put on the rubber grips, you need to modify them with some sandpaper or a Dremel tool if you want to use them with speed loaders. The proper speed loader is the HKS Model DS, and if you use the wood grips or modify the rubber ones just a bit, this gun is much easier to use with speed loaders than any five-shot revolver, and recoils less than most. My Rock revolvers seem most accurate using 158 grain lead bullet factory ammo, but are no slouch with the 125 grain Golden Saber load either, which performs better in tissue from a 2-inch barrel. I often let new students in CCW classes shoot one of the Rock Islands in their first range session and most prefer it to a five shot J-frame. It seems to be just enough bigger and heavier at around 25 ounces to be comfortable to shoot. So given how well these ugly little things work, I don't know why everyone doesn't own one or two of them. The closest thing on the market you can buy right now which is any better is a new Colt Cobra, which is admittedly a nicer revolver, but it is also $700 if you can find one for sale.
@Turtlejohn8
@Turtlejohn8 5 лет назад
I carry one most days. I'm having trouble finding a good holster for it though. Any recommendations?
@chingwaza
@chingwaza 5 лет назад
Rurouni-senpai someone said k frame holsters kinda fit but idk
@clarencesolana1380
@clarencesolana1380 4 года назад
searched the internet for 3 mos looking for the answer to the holster question. thank you! I just stumbled upon your comment good sir :)
@ewhays
@ewhays 7 лет назад
The RIA is parkerized not usually blued so better in wetter conditions but not as aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. But still a good gun
@stripedassape8148
@stripedassape8148 11 месяцев назад
They offer them blued and also stainless but it costs a little more.
@timemachinewatch
@timemachinewatch 5 лет назад
As he said, the RIA is a great gun IN THIS PRICE POINT. I own em both and THIS is the one I'd throw in the glove box (or anywhere else) Good used Detectives go FIVE TIMES THE MONEY 800-1000 think about it. Big difference is the finish but mostly on the inside the shooting ability doesnt seem compromised. For $200 range this is a steal.
@ecgameplayer
@ecgameplayer Год назад
Honestly the detective special borders between being a collector's to a edc, given it's value, I'm sticking to a ria, nothing a little tuning can't fix.
@therealhawkeyeii7888
@therealhawkeyeii7888 6 лет назад
Your Colt is a pre-66, which is revealed by the fact that the grip frame extends the full length of the wood grip panels. After 1966, they had a shorter grip frame, and the wood panels joined at the bottom, just like your Rock Island.
@pacorivera3503
@pacorivera3503 5 лет назад
i have a 1932 Colt DS(first issue, originial parts and original grips) do you know the price range for that type of gun? my grandmother just gave it to me as a gift.
@jamiehess4211
@jamiehess4211 4 года назад
Yep. Not many know that. They also offered "duo-tone" partial parkerizing from late 40s to early 50s. It's only on the back strap and bottom of the frame. Was supposed to prevent rust from sweaty cops' hands. Russell Crowe's gun in L.A. Confidential is like this. I have a 1949 and thought at first someone had painted or badly blued these areas. They're worth grabbing when they can be found. Classics never go out of style....
@matthewrobinson4323
@matthewrobinson4323 7 лет назад
The M 206 might not be a Colt, Smith and Wesson, or Ruger, but I'm liking mine more and more. And for its intended use, and its purchase price, I find it hard to fault. I debated between the M 206 and the Charter Arms Police Undercover and went with the Rock Island because it cost about $90.00 less, came in black parkerized, and had wood grips. I did have to send it in because of a timing issue, but they went way beyond any reasonable expectations in getting it back to me by Christmas (it was a Christmas present), so overall, I'm very pleased with it.
@T500cal
@T500cal 7 лет назад
I am also debating between the same two revolvers haha
@matthewrobinson4323
@matthewrobinson4323 7 лет назад
I'm really enjoying mine. Put 100 rounds through it Wednesday. The more familiar I become with it, the better I like this Rock Island Armory. I did have a problem with it at first, though. The cylinder wasn't locking up. I sent it in, and they fixed it and had it back to me before Christmas. (It was a Christmas present). So, I couldn't be happier with it and with Armscor. It came with 2 grips, the cool-looking wooden grips and a set of "combat polymer" (whatever that means...LOL) that look like Pachmyr grips. I prefer the wood grips. The gun is amazingly accurate and easy to shoot. In some ways I like it even better than my Smith and Wesson 442. Not in ALL ways of course, but it's definitely a good choice. I'd be interested in learning your experience with whichever one you get.
@wildweasel8564
@wildweasel8564 9 месяцев назад
I just picked up an M206 in 2024 from Gun Genie for $252.00 less fees. To cut costs they are now parkerized and in a cardboard box, but you still get both the wood and synthetic grip sets along with a soft case.
@Kyle-vb3fz
@Kyle-vb3fz 5 лет назад
I ordered a gun online and picked it up at my local store today, and while waiting for them to come back to me, I saw this beautiful baby sitting in the case. Ironically, the handgun I had just bought was also 38 special revolver so I will see how it does. I may go back and get that RI206 snubby. It was a little over $200. You cannot beat that. I have never paid more than $300 for a handgun, and have always had luck. Ruger Semi Autos, Taurus Revolvers, etc.
@turkey0165
@turkey0165 Год назад
I bought the M206 and put the "Mark Browne" custom short walnut checkered grips that are actually flat each side and longer for far better gripping and handling! Wise decision! Try it youll like it !
@daviddavis8476
@daviddavis8476 4 года назад
I just picked mine up yesterday I personally didn't like the wood grips I found them to be a bit to small. luckily they did come with the tactical grips after changing the grips it was a lot more comfortable for me I've only put 6 round through it but so far I'm impressed by it.
@Optatius
@Optatius 8 лет назад
Colt has more value and is collectible. Rock island will likely never be collectable. But they serve same function at different costs.
@desktorp
@desktorp 6 лет назад
Everything has 'collectible' potential, because it just depends on how long each individual object can last.
@nickdipaolofan5948
@nickdipaolofan5948 5 лет назад
It true. The majority of gun will not appreciate faster than inflation. Many are worth less each year.
@robertsr.249
@robertsr.249 5 лет назад
@david esktorp a neighbor of mine has a 1979 Chevy chevette , nobody’s beating his door down to make an offer , 😬
@456swagger
@456swagger 5 лет назад
My m206 is Parkerized, love it so far.
@GunCollector007
@GunCollector007 9 лет назад
You nailed this video my friend! Really well done. RIA is a pretty great gun for the money.
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 9 лет назад
+Gun Collector007 thanks for that i try to make these vids as i would like to see.
@wesbgreer
@wesbgreer 4 года назад
Looks like that M206 has had some holster wear. How is the pistol fairing now? You still shoot/Carry it?
@dbx1233
@dbx1233 3 года назад
How many brand new 6 shot snubby revolvers can be had for around $250? Rock Island is the only one I know of. Also it's a pretty good built revolver.
@slickwilly6868
@slickwilly6868 7 лет назад
The rock island looks more masculine
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 4 года назад
It should, it's nearly an exact copy of the later Detective Special.
@IkerBoulala
@IkerBoulala 4 года назад
SlickWilly for a guy with insecurities about his masculinity it sure does! Lol
@wahivalleys3011
@wahivalleys3011 4 года назад
Yup, man up, the way it should be! Wahi' Valleys
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 2 месяца назад
Thanks for comparing the Rock Island m206 with the Colt Detective Special. My first handgun was a Colt Trooper .357 Magnum. All in all, the Rock Island Armory m206 is an excellent value for a .38 Special snub nose revolver. I just picked one up and took it to the range. It handles well and is accurate. BTW on the Rock Island M205 the ejection rod is spring loaded vs the crane on the Colt.
@SkepticTalk
@SkepticTalk 3 года назад
Great little piece for the money. How has it held up BATJAC I.E. the Rock Island M206? I'm thinking of getting one here! It looks to me more like a Smith and Wesson Model model 36. How does it compare to the S&W 36 size wise etc?
@BoboEverest
@BoboEverest 8 лет назад
CDS, I have one just like yours. Grate little revolver for close range target practice and self-defense.
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
+Bobo Glock Thank you.
@BRYANIN562
@BRYANIN562 8 лет назад
cool, i stopped by today at turners and bought one, It was 275 after taxes
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
+JAZZIEL Nice! good price.
@BRYANIN562
@BRYANIN562 8 лет назад
im only missing the DROS, i walked into the store and asked for this gun, they didint have any, anywhere in california lol, so he checks the pc and says we have 250 orders comming in though, and he said, a customer is picking his up tomorrow so he goes in the back and lets me check out that customers weapon i loved it, and placed the order, hopefully it comes in soon !
@BRYANIN562
@BRYANIN562 8 лет назад
BATJAC J.W
@erictalkington5674
@erictalkington5674 5 лет назад
The Rock Island is pretty cool and definitely a DS clone. I really really really love that Detective Special though dude. That is so nice. I love those. I do like the 3rd issue as well as long as I could find magna style stocks like the ones on your DS. However the 1st & 2nd issue DS's are awesome! I love watching old black and white TV shows and movies and I see those all the time. I kinda like the 1st issue better because of the half moon sight and shorter ejector rod. It doesn't much matter to me if it has the full or shorter grip frame but I prefer the round butt ones. They aren't too far off their square butt models but I like the rounded edges better if I can help it. I am trying to find either a 1st or 2nd issue, but no luck yet. I want a blued and a nickel 1st or 2nd issue and a blued and nickel 3rd issue with fake pearl on the nickel and walnut on the blued models. One day I'll complete that set. Very cool guns. I'm more of a Smith guy if I had to pick because I like far more Smith models than I do Colt models, but there are a handful of Colts I will buy one day. A blued Diamondback snubby I want one day because of Bullitt. It was Steve McQueen's gun in that movie. Wouldn't mind a 4 inch blued as well, but it has to have the Detective Special style walnut grips in it. That looks so cool. Thanks for sharing.
@tommidd8042
@tommidd8042 8 месяцев назад
Far from being a clone but from a distance it does look like it.
@killacommie4mommie
@killacommie4mommie 9 лет назад
So the Rock Island is a decent revolver? I've looked at 'em,but because it was so cheap I had my doubts. My Rock Island mil-spec 1911 is awesome good for around $385,so I guess these must be the same. Always loved the old style "belly guns",. The Detective Special is a Police Positive with a short barrel, Cobra has an aluminum frame. The Agent has a shorter grip. If I had lots of money,I'd own them all.
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 9 лет назад
+Citizen Rico lol same here.
@billsummy2412
@billsummy2412 5 лет назад
Old school style ..... whats not to love ! :-)
@ivandeleon8450
@ivandeleon8450 7 лет назад
colt detective = charles bronson
@armandogonzales1365
@armandogonzales1365 Год назад
Colt all day long it's like comparing a pacer to a Shelby but an affordable fire arm
@kylewood8327
@kylewood8327 3 года назад
Nice comparison! I’ve been looking for a RI but they are scarce, like everything else.
@bennryan2
@bennryan2 2 года назад
So cool. Definitely a romance! It reminds me more of what a snub-nosed should be.
@erictalkington5674
@erictalkington5674 5 лет назад
I thought your DS had the shorter grip frame, but it looks as though it is full sized. Am I right on that? I thought the stocks wrapped underneath, but maybe I saw it wrong. Very nice.
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 5 лет назад
No it has a full frame.
@kevincharles1983
@kevincharles1983 Год назад
I believe the shorter grip frame started in 1970..
@turkey0165
@turkey0165 3 года назад
I think the Colt just slightly smaller than the M206 Have the two firearms been individually weighed?
@kevincharles1983
@kevincharles1983 Год назад
I have a colt cobra ctg 1971. Aluminum frame. Love it
@walterking5210
@walterking5210 Год назад
That was a great review. Will Colt grips fit on the Rock Island?
@drmitofit2673
@drmitofit2673 2 года назад
What about the cylinder gap? My barely used Colt Cobra blued aluminum is a tight 0.004"
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 4 года назад
Colt DS was an excellent snubbie. My issued DS saved my butt in a 1974 gunfight w/armed robbery suspects.
@joshuafreeman4459
@joshuafreeman4459 4 года назад
How do the sizes compare? From the look of the video, it’s a little than the Colt. Hard to say though.
@wahivalleys3011
@wahivalleys3011 3 года назад
Size comparison at 4:35. Wahi' Valleys
@drmitofit2673
@drmitofit2673 2 года назад
M206 has a nice wide hammer spur but strangely flat.
@Guillestorytime240
@Guillestorytime240 2 года назад
Do the detective grips fit on the RIA?
@Rnemhrd
@Rnemhrd 5 лет назад
And the snobs pull their heads out of their back sides and bash the compairison. Good video. Just picked one of these beaters up. Nice to see the two side by side regardless to that the dinks say.
@panama-canada
@panama-canada Год назад
How the real Colt clicks is orgasmic ASMR
@glennsammon4465
@glennsammon4465 4 года назад
that would be the ejector rod shroud and the "block" is a sight rib.
@johnbennett9149
@johnbennett9149 4 года назад
Wel supposably the machines there using were left there after the war and if it be true there the same machine's that made the colt pistol
@JDTR696PR
@JDTR696PR 9 лет назад
Good comparison review!
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 9 лет назад
+PRVeteran thanks bro
@davidtraver5227
@davidtraver5227 6 лет назад
Really enjoy your videos
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 6 лет назад
Thank you!!
@Mang_Deni
@Mang_Deni 2 года назад
I love 😍😍😍😍😍
@818richardrajic
@818richardrajic 7 лет назад
whats the year of your Colt detective Special??
@flobrob707
@flobrob707 5 лет назад
818richardrajic I have one just like it. Mine is from 1938
@j.a.lucky13
@j.a.lucky13 7 лет назад
Are these guns the same size? Can they use the same holster and grips?
@wahivalleys3011
@wahivalleys3011 3 года назад
Sizes discussed at 4:35. Wahi' Valleys
@vinc213lbc
@vinc213lbc 8 лет назад
just a quick question. what year was your colt made? ihave exact the same one as you, trying tp find out the year it was made
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
+Pimh Pong i don't remember, i did look it up when i bought it but since then forgot. sorry.
@vinc213lbc
@vinc213lbc 8 лет назад
+BATJAC J.W thanks anyway:) but i think its at least 40 or 50 years old right?
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
i think it was like 1950 something
@vinc213lbc
@vinc213lbc 8 лет назад
+BATJAC J.W thanks. so i think i made a good deal. a nice historical gun for 200 dollars
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
any colt for that amount is a great deal. CONGRATS!!!
@yvonnemelton5406
@yvonnemelton5406 2 года назад
Holster for Colt detective fit a Rock Island arms m206
@craigfinley2507
@craigfinley2507 10 месяцев назад
Thats bigger than the J frame am i right
@craigfinley2507
@craigfinley2507 10 месяцев назад
It has a different mainspring too
@pattreadwell6149
@pattreadwell6149 2 года назад
Very nice
@MPGunther1
@MPGunther1 8 лет назад
Excellent in depth look
@Turtlejohn8
@Turtlejohn8 5 лет назад
Do they fit in the same holsters?
@55trucks
@55trucks 4 года назад
I have the Rock M206 and Ready Holster makes a nylon holster for it. Has a thumb brake & fits fine. find it at ReadyHolster.com. Its my EDC gun. Very happy with it.
@Turtlejohn8
@Turtlejohn8 4 года назад
@@55trucks I sold that gun a while ago. Reliability issues. Thanks for the tip though
@braxtonkennel7393
@braxtonkennel7393 6 лет назад
can you get a laser grip for it? 😱
@DizzyZinger4
@DizzyZinger4 8 лет назад
i have a question if anybody can help me out..can something like a tyler t grip fit on the m206? are the grips the same width as the colt?
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
+Elizabeth Elder it might but i'd expect fitting.
@jeffcolwell8459
@jeffcolwell8459 3 года назад
Have a ria m206 shot a few rounds in it yes I do love it with the high cost can't afford to shoot too many times
@snarlingrabiddog5150
@snarlingrabiddog5150 7 лет назад
The barrel on the RIA resembles a Python but without the vent in the rib.
@gunenthusiast9201
@gunenthusiast9201 9 лет назад
Nice comparison bro . Awesome vid.
@pagesegovia2026
@pagesegovia2026 3 года назад
Beater vs a Collection Worthy gun
@passaroslk7773
@passaroslk7773 6 лет назад
yes!!
@drmitofit2673
@drmitofit2673 2 года назад
Second Model Colt Cobras and Detect Specials have shrouded ejector rods, look much better.
@garyvanpatten3947
@garyvanpatten3947 3 года назад
More in California $300 on 6-4-2021
@panama-canada
@panama-canada Год назад
RIA is a Frankenstein
@Larry-gn1xj
@Larry-gn1xj 8 месяцев назад
No need to ever tear it down, really.
@kimking3909
@kimking3909 2 года назад
So cool!
@colinj5291
@colinj5291 2 года назад
Kind of a no brainer, the Colt is going to be better quality.
@jeffersoncarlisle3125
@jeffersoncarlisle3125 2 года назад
Wow, cool video! Thanks!
@dannysmith6035
@dannysmith6035 Год назад
The rock island wins love mine.
@hamfercastle4647
@hamfercastle4647 5 лет назад
I like a CDS....are very speed...!!!😃
@charlesdodson1991
@charlesdodson1991 4 года назад
batjac: why not switch the grips?
@craigfinley2507
@craigfinley2507 10 месяцев назад
They have no such D frame its a K frame
@drmitofit2673
@drmitofit2673 2 года назад
Cylinder turns clockwise and cylinder release is a pull, just like the Colt!
@sunnycloud69
@sunnycloud69 8 лет назад
Cool vid
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
+sunnycloud69 Thank you.
@larryrobinson6914
@larryrobinson6914 2 года назад
Simple pretty much n Jam proof.
@msmeltzer1
@msmeltzer1 3 года назад
My dealer had to return 2 of 3 Rocks that they had received for failure to properly lock up. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. The RIA is junk.
@JamesHackett-kv4ki
@JamesHackett-kv4ki 3 месяца назад
Wrong own tree
@Tahara-Aichi
@Tahara-Aichi 7 лет назад
Comparing one of the finest revolvers on history with a Saturday night special? Come on man.
@Wyttt95
@Wyttt95 6 лет назад
General George S. Patton Jr. it’s a copy of said revolver so what exactly is the issue ?
@desktorp
@desktorp 6 лет назад
Gun aficionado's like to say things like 'finest XYZ in history' and 'Saturday Night Special' because they operate on dog whistles and parrot calls.
@Rnemhrd
@Rnemhrd 5 лет назад
Just showed the similarities, and differences slick. For $200. you can have something similar that you can throw in a camping kit and not give a shit about beating up. From the wear it's clear he uses the M206 and the Colt is probably a collection piece.
@myvenusinuranus
@myvenusinuranus 8 лет назад
nice Saturday Night Special goofy hammer spur is too straight and too low. good for pinching the web of your hand
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
It can. Thanks for watching.
@jamesbranham2217
@jamesbranham2217 4 года назад
I haven't had an issue when shooting double action.. single action with wood grips yes it will reach web of hand..but with black plastic grips no issues either way.. just my experience.. the new colt cobra has a much tighter lockup but this and the m200 seem to be good shooters so far
@ironhorse127
@ironhorse127 8 лет назад
Putting these two revolver in the same video is sac religious. Lol. An Icon and a cheap imitation.
@BATJACJW
@BATJACJW 8 лет назад
LOL
@desktorp
@desktorp 6 лет назад
_"Thine video is sacrilege!"_ cried the Lesser Priest of the Church of Colt.
@ringhunter1006
@ringhunter1006 5 лет назад
take the colt any day man
@mattdylan1168
@mattdylan1168 8 лет назад
It is not done frequently in my opinion or to the best of my knowledge and memory, but during his comments he makes I suppose a smacking sound with his mouth . I think it appears a bit effeminate . A bad habit for a man .
@douglaslamb7267
@douglaslamb7267 4 месяца назад
And whats your bad habit ? writing dumb comments ?
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