Rock Music, Video Games, and Life in Christ 

I was a rock musician, playing guitar since I was 8 years old - now I'm 49 years old. I started turning to Christ about 10 years ago. About 2-3 years ago, I started to feel that rock music is incompatible with Orthodoxy, this feeling was felt very strongly when I started learning church singing. I can no longer play and listen to this type of music. I didn't force myself. It just happened.

I love video games, I even want to become a game developer BUT they can never give you peace & consolation like Christ can. Listening to a priest, reading the Bible, reading a book by church fathers fills me 10x or 100x times more than the best gaming session. Also if not moderated & without restrictions video games can easly become an addiction.

"I wanna get rich, spiritually" is the most american way of framing the faith

As a 24 year old young man, i grew up at a time where videogames, media and the internet really began to devour people, and it certainly did me. I became orthodox and was baptised at 21, and got married at 22. Leading up to my wedding and the first few months of it I naturally desired games and fruitless media much less, and eventually began to feel guilty every time I partook in them. My wife was about 4 months pregnant and we had been married for 7 months when i played my last game. It was the original Spyro. Thank God my wife said “What are you doing?” I came to the only answer, distracting myself with childish things, so I made a vow to God that never again would I ever play a videogame, and now a year and a half later im immensely grateful God helped me to do it. It’s bad enough to waste time on tangible worldly things, how much worse on digital simulacra and anima that never existed at all? They are designed to enthral you and I will see to it my son will not become a slave like I did. With Gods help, you can too lads! It just takes time, dedication and growth. Godspeed!

I love how in Orthodoxy there is this balanced, nuanced understanding. Growing up Protestant, it was either "it's all good" or it's all "the devil." Even for some of the objections here, Fr. Peter isn't outright condemning and forbidding. It's a matter of discernment. I used to love Pink Floyd like nothing else...but for all their deep philosophical insight, there's not much genuine hope in their music. It's a very BC sort of thing, like the Greek philosophers. I won't freak out if one of their songs comes on in a public place. If anything, I'll just think "hmm, great song....moving on...."

I find that as i spend hours each day with God, worshipping, praying, singing to God, requesting God's healing, fellowshipping with my Orthodox family, reading about Jesus and the saints, i lose intrest in things that don't help me focus on being more and more Christ like. I don't worry so much about legalistic rules. I just follow our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ because He is the attraction. This has taken years, decades, a lifetime and there is still so much more to go that i pray to live two lifetimes.

I listen to metal from time to time. The important message here is do not drowned in Metal music but, rather listen to it without effecting your emotions. I also listen to a heavy metal Orthodox band called "Holy Name" all the songs are orthodox based and you will see the music videos with the backdrop of Orthodox Icons Christ or Mother of God. I listen to Metal when driving and then right after I listen to chants of the Monks and yes i chant with them in the car. Look at it as Metal music such as the band Holy Name bringing the bridge or gap to bringing non-orthodox to Christ. I know there are lot of people that follow them that are not orthodox but love that style of music. In God's timing they will be orthodox. ☦

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I mostly stopped listening to lyrical music, only listen to ambient and normally very relaxed stuff. You'd be amazed on how many cool genres there are out there that won't interfere with your communion with Christ. It's, at least, a good step forward.

I love Rock and videogames, but my passion for these things declined as I grew more in Christ. Also, the new music and videogames get worse every year so that makes it a lot easier too.

I came of age in the late 80s early 90s. As a child growing up in those dark times without the influence of the Church, I fell into the pattern that many of my peers fell into which was to form an identity around music and art tastes. The music we listened to defined us. I was drawn into the so-called alternative music scene. I thought it was edgy and rebellious. I can no longer listen to such music and haven't for many years. In my household we listen to classical, international folk, and Orthodox chant.

Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us! Men, join St. Paisios Brotherhood. Orthodox men holding one another accountable to grow as men in Christ. I just joined myself! May Christ guide us!

Once you stop listening to music you will start to see it from afar and start becoming aware what music does to your spirit mind soul…as you wouldn’t put fast food in your body so you wouldn’t want to feed your soul with music that doesn’t nourish it❤simple

As Fr Heers repeats multiple times in this video, there are lower and higher goods. Ultimately, if we turn to worldly pleasures for our consolation, we depend on them for consolation, which ultimately means we worship these created things. But just because we recognize that doesn't mean we will have the strength to give up all worldly consolations right away or even after a very long time. In fact, it practically never works out tha way because the process of purification is meant to humble us and show us that we really don't love God in the depths of our hearts and thaf we need Him to intervene for real. We just shouldn't kill the ideal because we like some activity that isn't compatible with it. Christ is the ideal. He never did and will never do a single selfish thing. We can at least do selfish things that we are too weak to live without out of sight of others so that we don't promote them. But killing or dragging the ideal to our level isn't the answer. In the end, God wants us to be happy and even to have pleasure, or else He wouldn't have created us to feel those things. We're just wrong about where to find them. That's the whole point of the doctrines of the Trinity and Incarnation. That God is love and that the true joy is to not live like an imploding black hole, for yourself. If you think you can mix these things, remember Christ's words about two masters. This isn't and shouldn't be about judging anyone. As Fr says, it should be about getting to a point where we ourselves don't want to be selfish and worldly anymore. It takes time and suffering, but it is worth it. And it's worth remembering that despair is definitely not of God and that He often allows us to be tempted to humble us. Killing the ideal is not the solution.

Yes, correctly said father Peter to this youngster ✅❤☦ thank you father Peter

Soooo true! It’s the comforts of the flesh that draws us to those things. I loved my tank game. I gave it up to pray more, to think of God more. I play music at work, but it’s background noise for me. I pray and thank God as I work.

Fr Peter has acquired an incredible amount of discernment :)

Rock from 60’s, 70’s and 80’s was amazing- I see it as pleasure and joy; therefore a magnifying glass for the passions. Listening to classic rock makes me happy 😅 (occasionally)

I think moderation is the key... too much of anything is bad but playing video games every now and then I think is OK.

Holy Name is an Orthodox metal band. They are actually pretty cool. If the music uplifts you to be closer to Christ, then I think it's ok.

How can a music style being “inherently wrong”? Is it the time signature? The tempo? I would say it’s the lyrical content, not rhythm and harmony style.

Not all rap songs and metal songs are inherently negative or wrong. Some metal core songs are actually very positive and uplifting

I've completed this same approach over the past 6 months for social media. Now I'm down to really only one account to which I just get some basic info from and move on. Such a blessing to be free from it. Looking at other entertainment/media to apply this to next.

I started looking into Orthodoxy and going to an Orthodox church because of a metal band. To say that metal is inherently wrong I think isn't true.

Trough video games God teached me a couple of lessons in life and kept me away from sins like adultery,violence,drunknes,........

I've been skimming all my metal music down to Christian songs only. Works good.

Ive sung hard rock my whole life Entering the Catholic faith now leaves me with quite the conundrum

You will feel most at home in Orthodoxy. We pray with prostrations.

I used to love both metal music and video games to near idolatry. After becoming Christian, I still have a small number of metal bands I still listen to on occasion, but mostly I prefer silence. I still play video games, but not nearly as much. I'm reading more now. It's hard to imagine completely losing either of those old hobbies though, while I'm still on earth. I don't mind the idea of losing them eternally, but I can't imagine stopping completely while still here. It is partly because I am a musician myself, (not metal.. piano) and also a programmer and make my own games, so I get to participate in creating beautiful things. Philippians 4:8. It reads:"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." The degree to which i am able to find beauty or virtue in music (yes even metal) and video games, I don't see them as being spiritually harmful. But broadly agree that allowing them to dominate one's life is not good, and I've overcome that.

christian metal is a thing and it actually brought me to God

Im not an orthodox christian. Raised baptist. I think the question answers itself. "Can I have God and still indulge in these earthly things." If we ask these questions about something, perhaps we should let that something go. I struggle with this. I love rock and roll. However, its best I love God more. This is the way.

The beatles been my favorite band growing up. Had to do my best to drop it, honestly the message in many of the songs isn't great. Plus the hinduism influence in later songs. You can't try to bend it into being good and of God when it isn't.

There are many metal bands who say the truth about the world like Disturbed

For me, I still play video games, but I dropped almost all the genres except for simulation, such as farming, trucking... And for music it's true, I was even surprised to reject completely what I used to love to listen.

It’s funny mentioning rock and video games, as a soldier rock music at one point gave me some kind of energy that pushed me past my physical limitations in an austere environment, but since removing myself from the line of work that entails violence and a stressful way of living, and actually turning to and walking with Christ, that kind of music began to sound repulsive, including rap songs from my favorite artists, for some unknown reason it was like the separation of oil and water. And video games, it used to be a favorite pastime for me, but now I can barely manage to play on my Xbox for more than 30 minutes a week before losing interest. Needless to say, things I once had a passion for have gradually lost my passion as in time more of my passion went to Christ, and it’s not really explainable but it came with healing from all of the trauma and suffering I had endured during the short 26 years of my life. I used to have a perpetually negative outlook on things, but now in suffering I can truly find peace, much more than I ever thought possible. I’ve stopped relying on my own strength, (and I’m known for being abnormally strong for my physique), and understood that it is indeed God’s strength that alleviates my weakness. I see the whole world changing rapidly for the worse, so losing interest in passions for things that pass away isn’t so much a bad thing in my opinion, because even though the world is being swallowed up in darkness, I can spend more of my limited time in this body feeding oil to the lamp that burns within me and around me to that I can hopefully make that light visible to others who as I have at one point have lost hope in the fact that God indeed still has complete control over everything, and that one day the old corrupted world will pass away and be replaced with a kingdom that lasts forever.

If the music and video games gets in the way of you coming closer to Christ, then you ought to discard it. That’s how I always looked at it.

There is a stark difference between secular music and Christian music. I cannot imagine the Lord doesn’t want us using musical instruments at all in this life, which includes the God-given voice. If it glorifies His name, or draws you nearer to Him, it is good. The same goes with the internet, electronics and anything in life. Electricity can lead to bad, but it can also lead to good, does it mean we shouldn’t be using it at all? I imagine the modern day saints used electricity and musical instruments. Discernment is one of the keys to living an Orthodox life.

This discussion reminds me of the CD “The Work of God’s People” by Father Thomas Hopko. Highly recommended. I think some proper context on this YT question can be gained from listening to the CD.

Pink Floyd is GOAT

True. There is a strong occult foundation in much of the industry. Why Christians should avoid most movies, TV, etc.

Doom; a videogame about righteously rejecting evil with a metal soundtrack.

Check out the power metal band Judicator. The lead singer is an Orthodox Christian. They aren't an explicitly Christian band but have some very solid music. Their album "Let There Be Nothing" is all about the Eastern Roman general Belisarius and his relationship to the Emperor Justinian, his wife, war, and God. The album "The Last Emperor" is about the First Crusade. Another great metal band is Signum Regis, from Slovakia. They are more explicitly Christian and almost all songs are positive and uplifting. Of course, the greatest Christian metal band, IMHO, is Theocracy.

Red dead redeption helped me a lot when I was far from the Lord that game bring me closer to God now I play only videogames that I know will bring me fruit in Christ, for me all new music is garbage as I only listen to old country and folk music, sadly I knew many kids that get addicted to videogames, so moderation is key for someone that wants to play games or listen to music, usually I play 2 or less hours a day that seems a lot but every 30 minutes I stop and pray.

Beatles had A Crowley who was far from Christ on the cover and was said they had him pray (to the devil) over that album as well as Zeppelins for them to prosper. Just fyi.

Can you please make a similar video about fitness? Thanks!

Christian here as well as an alternative rock/metal musician. I think I found a way how to not make the music "religious" without also making it "secular." A lot of harder-hitting rock and metal has become about angst and giving someone catharsis for their frustration with the world. My goal is to make the listener feel like someone who cares is listening and responding. I don't know whether or not that is in line with God. I can only hope so.

Hello Father, how then should a Christian spend time when not praying or working or taking care of life tasks and such. Moreover should there be such a thing as "leasure time" for a Christian?

So, this would also apply to classical music as well.

I heard a preacher once say that what is a tempting sin to one person might not be to someone else. So we each have to use our own discernment especially since we know ourselves. If you know that a drink at a bar will lead to you cranking down 8 more and getting wasted you should not go to that environment. Someone else might be there all night but have the self control to not engage in drunkenness. Same could be self control on gambling or video games. I personally struggle with specific types of games where I get extremely addicted and my family and relationship with Christ suffers as I allocate my time wrong. Some games I can play and have no issue stopping or putting minor increments of time in so those are the games I gravitate toward since I do enjoy gaming as a hobby. Ultimately your life as a born again Christian is to be dead to your old self and living ti glorify the God so spending more time in the word and prayer is a better use of your time or investing in others displaying Christs love

Perhaps the themes and the spirit behind the music are more important than the music style itself. For example, John Lennon was an atheist marxist, while there exist some pretty good Christian metal bands out there.

Listen metal bands with christian themes Band: stryper. song: yahweh. Band: luca turilli rhapsody. Song: of michael the archangel and lucifers fall. Band: cage. Song: Abomination.

1:00 There is such a thing as Godly Rock and Godly Rap, though it does not convey the same emotion of reverence as you might use in church, but they can easily be used for good. They are more about personal battles in the mind, or sometimes they are testimonies, either way they are truly Christian in many cases. Ever listen to “God is Good” by Forrest Frank & Caleb Gordon? Ever listen to Skillet?

I wonder how Father Peter feels about reggae music, Bob Marley, Israel Vibration. I know it’s a spectrum and some of their music can be better or worse. But they do make some very nice sounding biblically themed music.

Most music today is MKUltra

Father. Is it ok to listen to metal like He Leadeth Us and Sacra Theosis! Yes! Esp when there’s Orthodox inspiration behind some of their/my songs!

Check out Alistair Crowley. He had a lot to do with rock music in the 60’s and 70’s. He’s on the sgt peppers album cover.

What about Christian music I listened to before be coming Orthodox like I will call upon the Lord or I will praise you into the storm and similar songs?

I love Jesus and I love heavy metal music. I stopped listening to “Ghost” a band that mocks holiness. Or at least uses it for shock value. I listen to no gruesome overtly satanic bands that use certain symbols or bands that curse God or seem upset at God. Heavy metal is very melodic and uplifting. It has complex arrangements and it is based in classical music with its tone and texture. Ironically, I was just listening to a “screamo” (heavy form of emo/post hardcore rock) band earlier today, the song is called “Some Will Forgiveness, Others Escape”, by UNDEROATH. It is a song about Jesus. It is a very heavy song by a group from men that on first look, people might judge them. Their early years were very Christian based. Music is just that: MUSIC. It can be used as good or bad or neutral when it comes to God. Christ is KING OF KINGS 👑

Make your own music to Glorify God. I have heard Orthodox Rap, Orthodox Metal so you can listen to Rap and Metal

There’s some awesome Orthodox metal bands out there. Hesychast, Crimson Moonlight, Pantokrator, Within Thy Wounds, Fathomage, Troparion, Podvizhnik, Daygraves, InTheosis, HolyName just to name a few.

I think jts better to say that the attraction to music of the church is proven holy. There are good christians who have been good stewards within metal or rap communities. But other paths are more blessed by the faith with less pitfalls for you to avoid.

I'm a musician and composer since 15 years, I made rock, then trap, then ambient/meditative music. I wasn't Christian at first but I feel I began to find the Holy Spirit though making music daily for years, by gradually understanding the need of temperance in modern music. Rock music can be spiritual but if played with temperance and if it's not an encouragement to sin (which would apply to some "post-rock" artists, even "doom-metal" artists, that are meditative). The saturation and dirtyness of the electric basses and guitars in rock/metal contexts, can be spiritual, the dark minor scales can be spiritual as well, they can reminds us of the suffering and darkness that exists in this world, but not to encourage us to sin, just as a reminder, to help to transcend the sins. The condition is that they should be wisely used.

I would add to anyone asking these questions to ask yourself if the media you are consuming is: Insulting or portraying Christianity negatively, promoting immorality, invoking ugliness or negativity, or becoming addicting. If the answer is yes to any of those then you should seriously consider why and if you want to partake. Now ask yourself does it promote any Christian values or virtues (even if not out right Christian)? If not it doesn't make it bad but it may be better to spend time with something more edifying. These are just guidelines I use for myself.

I wish I knew this guy so I could point him in the direction of incredible orthodox metal bands like “holy name”

Before my conversion i loved Iron maiden for very long long time. Now, after giving my life and heart to Lord Jesus i just cant listen to someone who has devil as their mascot. Even music does not have same attraction. I like melody and rythm but its over for me. Willing and unailling. God bless!

Listen to metal bands like Holy Name, For Today, and Bloodlines and tell me metal music can’t be used in a powerful way to glorify God

What if a Christian is born with the skills to work in the music industry? Are they supposed to not follow their passion and study their craft like anyone else? Are they supposed to not make music for someone because they don’t align morally with them? Does a Christian chef not cook for rappers or rockstars? How about a Christian contractor, do they not build houses for them either? Just stand guard over your inner heart, keep everything in its right place. Christ is our King and God, we are called to be in the world, don’t be scared of it. Fear the Lord, not drums or guitars

I find it funny how the first guy thinks metal is inherently wrong since my favorite band is Theocracy

Just a few days ago the Powerwolf released a new album. Is it a blessing or blasphemy? Symphonic metal is so possessive of my ears, it will be very hard to get rid of(

Americans still need to relasize that Orthodoxy is not Protestantism. We do not pick and choose. But its not radicalism either. Music, video games, if they evoke emotion positive by God's standard, are not inherently evil. But as the father said, they should be sidelines, and if only for our worldy pleasure are waste of time. Does not go to say that we are perfect, and can just drop everything off, but striving to be saintly is what he is right about. Metal cannot be Orthodox, the simple nature of metal music is completely away from Orthodoxy.

Oddly, those old school rock bands are incredibly worldly and occult. While there are actually Christian metal bands. There are very dark and bad metal bands as well, but there are some Christian bands in metal that try to preach the Gospel message. His Holy Name, for example.

What we need is more priest & pastors to inspire us. What do you do if the only Church you can attend is 3 hours away?

Video games can wreck you real life, was addicted and till this day fighting the urge It’s as bad as porn

Why is metal inherently wrong? Metal comes from classical music,and the message of Stryper and Whitecross honours Christ.I am Orthodox and musician.

Sports not on the list?

I am very interested in Christianity and I will definitely convert but I am considering Catholicism, Orthodox or Protestants / Anglicans I’ve left Islam for almost 7 months now and I’m looking to convert I have my eyes fixed on Catholicism but please share your advice I’m unfortunately very sinful and was wondering if you could kind of live a double or equal life for example 3 hours worldly things and 3 hours church, worship etc? Or 3 hours worldly and 4 hours worship etc?

What an absurd situation.

The Sabians and Quick And The Dead are worth the listen. they are doom punk acts from actual orthodox artists

I personally avoid any music with explicit lyrics. I used to have a really bad habit of swearing constantly when I was atheist, which I still sometimes struggle with, so I don't want to reignite that fire. I don't often play games anymore, but I would generally advise anyone to avoid games with the fear of missing out factor because that can easily lead to addiction. I am talking about battle passes and stuff alike. Also it's best to avoid competitive games because it will make you feel like you actually accomplish something by playing it. These games can also lead to wrath.Just play it to relax and have fun with friends and you'll be fine

God, Christian metal ( Holyname), non nihilistic video games.

Everybody needs hobbies and interests with variety. It's easy to judge hobbies when you don't have knowledge and experience with them. St John Chrysostom says it is BLASPHEMY to say that wine is evil. Even though abuse (or you could say the hobby of drinking, making, endorsing, partaking in and with) wine may lead to ill consequences for body and soul, that does not mean the thing or activity itself is evil. Have discernment and use everything in moderation.

STAY AWAY FROM JAY Z AND BEYONCE.

I Wish To Remind My Beloved Brothers and Sisters In The Lord Jesus Christ, Most Especially To The Holy Orthodox Faith, That, In The Frightening Immortal Words of The 🇩🇪 Thrash Metal Band, Kreator, " 😈 is Real. " Don't Ever Entertain Nor Engage With Him. 🛐 and Serve Our Holy God Almighty and His Tier 1️⃣ and Only, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Eastern Orthodox Church. While There Are Many Professed " Christian Metal " Bands Out There, Remember That The 😈 Disguises Himself As An 😇 of 🕯 To Mislead The Faithful. The Only Rock That We Should Stand On Is The Tier 1️⃣ and Only, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Eastern Orthodox Church. And Like Metallica Once Sang, " Nothing Else Matters. " AXIOS ☦️🕊🕯🙏📿☦️⛪️‼️

I hope people also see that things like sports and hobbies that some might partake are also not on the top of the hireachy and treat them similarly as they do with music and video games. Its a tough question I'm facing as a new Christian but from my point of view on things, if its not reading scripture, praying, evangilising or going to church, it is not at the top at the hireacrchy and there is room for improvement. While I agree that music and video games are low on that hierarchy, things like playing sports, weight lifting hiking and ect... are higher on the hierarchy but still not at the top of it. So are we supposed to let go of those activities too slowly and gradually? All things are permissible but not all beneficial. its hard to decern what is beneficial considering that in all activities of the hierarchy you can praise God in some way. Its a bit scary since I'm looking at it in the long term but please share your thoughts on this as I am open to learn and consider perspectives of others and scriptures / church fathers on this. God Bless!

Video games are one of the biggest wastes of time

There is no creation that does not belong to God.

First of all, musical instruments aren't even explicitly prohibited in the Church, they're just not part of the Eastern rite. The question is very old and a lot of the attempts to answer it are frankly stupid. Most young people under 30 don't even listen to rock music anymore, it's mostly hip-hop and modern pop these days, a lot of African American stuff. Yeah sure, listening to Slayer would be kinda weird for a practicing Orthodox but not all rock and metal is about Satanism, sex and profanity. There are even plenty of religious bands out there, albeit non-Orthodox. In Russia there's Orthodox rock and rap but in the West Orthodoxy is still a small minority, usually Greek or Slavic immigrants. 99% of the Anglosphere is not Orthodox.

I think videogames are a gray area, kind of like alcohol. A little is fine, but letting it become an addiction is life-destroying. Also it depends on what you play. That being said, I don't see how videogames are any worse than sports. Both were created for the same purpose, and fulfill pretty much the same function.

Is that why Batushka exists?

Music which is good, and which comes with my recommendation: Orthodox Chants, RC Chants, Baroque Period Music, Renaissance Period, Palestrina, and older Hymns. Music which is garbage: Rock, Rap, any sort of bebop or contemporary music which has no clearly discernable structure, and music which does not follow a pattern, and any music where the percussion overwhelms the melody. Basically, anything that sounds like jungle drums dancing around a fire.

I literally loath videgames now. I want to be accountable and responsible

"You are not praising, and worshiping, and praying to God when you are sitting there listening to that music". Yes I am.

What's wrong with metal?

Plenty of metal with Christian messages in, just depends on the musician. Black Sabbath an obvious case in point. As for games, surely it is possible to enjoy videogames and love and worship God?

I see nothing wrong with video games, the same way I don’t see wrong with tennis or chess or solving a rubix cube. It’s just a game meant to entertain, unless it has direct references agaisnt God, I think a video game can be a healthy form of entertainment, as long as it’s done in moderation of course.

Hey! Hands off my video games. We all need time to relax from time to time. I play about one or two hours a day now that I'm retired. I give Christ the other 22 hours.

Yeah I would totally listen to Christian and worship music if it actually contained creativity and sounded good. I stopped listening to secular music, and now I just listen to nothing and meditate on God in silence as I drive places. It feels forced, but it’s a work in progress. Pink Floyd has very anti Christian philosophies in some songs, but their musical writing is genius. Christian music writers just don’t have that talent or creativity, so I listen to neither.

father what we consider music in our days it is not really music,and cannot be really called as music. we know now from science although orthodoxy does not need science to prove itself. that the music and the sound of orthodox hymns are a blessing,and the sound waves they are on,sooth the soul of the human entity both spiritually and biologically. on the contrast popular music from metal to pop culture ,it is on sound waves that create chaotic behaviors and stress distress,on the human entity. with very few exceptions of course that do exist,and are mainly belonging to folklore traditional music styles of many people on earth.

My advice is to shun rock music altogether. It has totally ruined the worship services in most of the newer Protestant denominations. You don't want to open the door for that in your church, even an inch, or it can take over and turn your service into something that sounds like an ooga booga dance. I hope the Orthodox communty will be smart, and not allow that garbage into their churches. Also, I don't understand why anyone likes modern music at all, to me it all sounds like "Big Booty B-word." That's how all the rock and bebop music sounds to me. Modern music reminds me of jungle savages dancing around a fire to drum beats, as they prepare to invoke some demon and/or eat someone. The age of good music is over, all the good music was invented mostly in the past. I don't know if we will ever have good music being invented anew again, as Christianity is no longer dominant, and is in a place now of imitating stuff from the outside world rather than creating content to influence the outside world.