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Rocket Equation Derivation 

Mark Somerville
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@liammiddleton8917
@liammiddleton8917 10 лет назад
Hello, I'm 16 years old and aspiring to be an aerospace engineer, primarily astronautical. Just wanted to thank you on your thorough explanation on this topic. I'm preparing for a summer university course and you have brought me that much closer to my dreams! Thank You
@marksomerville782
@marksomerville782 10 лет назад
glad you found it useful
@1495978707
@1495978707 8 лет назад
+Mark Somerville I would've appreciated if you integrated your final expression to derive the Tsiolkovsky equation. I was able to figure it out anyway, but otherwise, your video is very good and clear and consistent in notation unlike in many other such videos and on wikipedia.
@LukeNewcomb
@LukeNewcomb 8 лет назад
Same except I'm 14! I'm building a rocket already lol
@mikkelledetnielsen1453
@mikkelledetnielsen1453 7 лет назад
How did you derive it, to the Tsiolkovsky equation? I have tried several times, and i cant quite figure it out
@speedcuber103
@speedcuber103 7 лет назад
TheDestroyerPlays lol so have i but im 17 and already got one to 100k ft.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 7 лет назад
Calculus got a lot easier for me once I realized that "d" means "change in".
@morpheusfreeman5209
@morpheusfreeman5209 7 лет назад
Frank Harr I was wondering where the hell that came out of, thanks mate!
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 7 лет назад
Well, when I was taking calculus the derivitive always had dx/dt or something similar at the end. What that means is "as x changes relative to time" or something similar. The whole thing made more sense when I made that connection between the math and the reality. I mean, I understood that was what was going on, but not that that's how it was expressed in the math.
@greatsea
@greatsea 7 лет назад
That is not quite what it means. More specifically, it means "infinitesimal change in." The symbol for just 'change in' is actually Δ.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 7 лет назад
Dratit, I think you're right. That just goes to show, it could have been even easier. Thank you.
@infinityinf1
@infinityinf1 7 лет назад
Frank Harr There in lies the difference between physicists, and mathematicians. A physicist is not bothered by mathematical notation. d for all physicists purpose means "change in". We don't care about precise definitions in cases like this.
@Sunscreen1973
@Sunscreen1973 4 года назад
How Kerbal Space Program forced me to ‘git gud’ at maths..
@leonardowynnwidodo9704
@leonardowynnwidodo9704 2 года назад
This video has really widened my vision of applying mathematics to science. Though I’m studying biology in a university, it kinda helps me in being prepared
@peeweeman34
@peeweeman34 5 лет назад
Brilliant! Subscribed and turned notifications on.
@bartonpaullevenson3427
@bartonpaullevenson3427 5 лет назад
You never did the integration to get Tsiolkovskiy's equation.
@shashwatsingh9247
@shashwatsingh9247 4 года назад
The integration seems easier than the name lmao
@cloud42269
@cloud42269 2 года назад
This is Meshchersky equation
@marcosmimenza
@marcosmimenza 2 года назад
And at what pressure should fuel be injected at liftoff of a 100-ton payload rocket?
@ShakespearHD
@ShakespearHD 5 лет назад
Very well done !!!!
@eathealth1990
@eathealth1990 4 года назад
The rocket equation, it is a beautiful thing.
@porit1023
@porit1023 7 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@drewbregman9098
@drewbregman9098 4 года назад
Thanks, great video
@gkp3161
@gkp3161 6 лет назад
I'm 14 and hoping to become a rocket engineer and this helped me very much, I'm starting by designing my own rockets, and testing them, this helped me explain them better.
@HiepTon94
@HiepTon94 9 лет назад
Thank you so much! This video is really helpful. Best derivation of the equation.
@ry77623
@ry77623 5 лет назад
You are pretty smart. AMEAN A REALLY SMART
@1969nitsuga
@1969nitsuga 4 года назад
Momentum is vectorial in nature and it is described as mass x speed. It is preserved for as long as 7there is no other force acting upon the object. It just makes sense under the thrust equation and it's environmental factor or atmospheric pressure.
@-danR
@-danR 2 года назад
mass • velocity Speed is a scalar and provides no vectorial attribute.
@1969nitsuga
@1969nitsuga 2 года назад
@@-danR you are correct. Speed doesn't (theoretically) imply a vectorial traslation. But that's only in paper. In real life there is always a vector. Basically, velocity is speed in a given direction. ... In physics, velocity is more important than speed because it tells you more about the object's motion. Always, the more you know, the better.
@zsolttildy5742
@zsolttildy5742 8 лет назад
great video, really helped me make sense of it! if you don't mind me asking where did you study physics?
@phukinho
@phukinho 3 года назад
@8:55 the change in momentum of the system is d(Mr.Vr). So if I take the derivative with respect to time, I get the force experienced by the rocket right? Which would be equal to -dMr/dt.(Ve+Vr) but it should be constant and not depending on Vr isn't it?! Shouldn't it be thrust=-dMr/dt.Ve instead?
@phukinho
@phukinho 3 года назад
+dMr/dt I mean and not -dMr/dt.
@angeljoke7167
@angeljoke7167 2 года назад
How fast do I have to poop to propel myself in the air and touch the ceiling with my head? I assume I poop 1kg and my weight is 80kg. All of this happens on the earth with a gravitational acceleration of 9.81 m/s/s.
@notrandomyt.5739
@notrandomyt.5739 4 года назад
*me in 2nd grade whatching this video and still figuring out what 2+2 is*
@rohitranjan9091
@rohitranjan9091 4 года назад
Me in 1st grade and on 1+1..
@perceptronsaber4479
@perceptronsaber4479 6 лет назад
Thank you Prof.Mark well done
@martovify
@martovify 5 лет назад
At 9:43 you treated the left hand side Vr as a function and you used the derivation rule for the multipication of two functions, however on the right hand side you derived as if Vr where a constant. why?
@ac30428
@ac30428 4 года назад
I think the velocity of the exhaust relative to the rocket is constant because once it leaves the rocket there’s no more forces and f=ma so no acceleration. So each chunk of fuel going out has a constant exit velocity relative to the rocket. Every force has an equal and opposite reaction so the only way the velocity relative to the rocket would increase is if the force the rocket were putting on it was increasing to send it out at a higher velocity (more impulse) and the rocket would experience constantly increasing thrust
@alexl6821
@alexl6821 6 лет назад
can someone explain what is mrt+dt?? t is time and dt is the change in time why would these two be added together?
@m.j.9935
@m.j.9935 6 лет назад
ALEX L it's just a notation that's showing a different point in time. Let's say t=1 second and dt=2 seconds. X_t= distance after 1 second. X_(t+dt)=distance after 3 seconds. If I'm correct, it's referred to as an "index".
@nishatmunshi4672
@nishatmunshi4672 3 года назад
Oh this video is the best
@x4mni742
@x4mni742 4 года назад
i failed in physics onces and here i am learning this . almost learned half way xD i just dont get one thing , what is rocket equation ?
@fyshball
@fyshball 3 года назад
Did you also fail English?
@DrempDK
@DrempDK 8 лет назад
How is d/dt*(m_R*v_R) equal to (d*m_R)/dt*v_R + (d*v_R)/dt*m_R?
@nachthemd1
@nachthemd1 8 лет назад
+Jonas product rule lol
@dhanalakshmigovindaraj1188
@dhanalakshmigovindaraj1188 5 лет назад
Hi, i need a equation to calculate the trajectory of a rocket to place in geosynchronous orbit with solid fuel
@akshitkumar9402
@akshitkumar9402 5 лет назад
KSP
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 4 года назад
Lol
@jj0493
@jj0493 4 года назад
Just add more booster
@drewortiz1
@drewortiz1 5 лет назад
Neil degrasse Tyson sent me here at 2am on a Friday night #Smilemore
@donaldtrunp574
@donaldtrunp574 5 лет назад
What did you ask him to get sent over here?
@cheesywiz9443
@cheesywiz9443 5 лет назад
@@donaldtrunp574 he probably just watched some of his astrophysics videos on yt
@cate9541
@cate9541 Год назад
thanks
@benedicterhardt5594
@benedicterhardt5594 3 года назад
Couldn't you take the derivative of velocity at 10:03 and then multiply it by the mass giving you force?
@ayushpatyal7640
@ayushpatyal7640 3 года назад
Mass is not constant .. fuel is always burning there .
@benedicterhardt5594
@benedicterhardt5594 3 года назад
@@ayushpatyal7640 oh. Thank you
@Mauromoustakos
@Mauromoustakos 6 лет назад
Thank you for your effort in explaining and preparing the video. Um..., you known..., computers can also print some very neat and ordered printed equations. Very clarified for the eye, that a badly handwritten text.
@ItsY01NK
@ItsY01NK 2 года назад
Im 14 but decided to watch this anyways
@grainfrizz
@grainfrizz 4 года назад
In ideal rocket equation, the velocity of the rocket is derived from multiplying the rocket's exhaust velocity to the natural log of the rocket's initial mass divided by its mass when propellant is subtracted. ”ve • ln(m0/mf)”
@adenwilson534
@adenwilson534 3 года назад
I'm in 6th grade watching this and it's really easy I love rocket science and astronomy my dad works at NASA so he is always on my case about things like this
@maxluka3450
@maxluka3450 3 года назад
Mate its not easy
@maxluka3450
@maxluka3450 3 года назад
This is just the tip of the iceberg
@ilovedoge
@ilovedoge 4 года назад
Kerbal space program gang 🙋🏻
@jayanthinraju8661
@jayanthinraju8661 9 лет назад
Nice video,but I didn't get those differential equations part can u help me out
@gravisan
@gravisan 7 лет назад
I am not sure why you need to consider an outside observer at all.
@infinityinf1
@infinityinf1 7 лет назад
foobar42 Newton's laws only work in an inertial reference frame(or in this case, from the view of the outside observer).
@organizedfromwithin2525
@organizedfromwithin2525 7 лет назад
Infinity 1 (and foobar42). Right! It sets up the vector direction (force, velocity, momentum, acceleration, etc.) to account for all rocket and exhaust component motion.
@CaptainCalculus
@CaptainCalculus 6 лет назад
You don't, but it's useful for future calculations.
@JannikPitt
@JannikPitt 5 лет назад
Well in the reference frame of the rocket it's easy: the velocity of the rocket is zero.
@phoenix2464
@phoenix2464 3 года назад
@@infinityinf1 Newton's laws also work in a non-inertial frame of reference, you just have to take into account the fictitious forces.
@capstarfish
@capstarfish 7 лет назад
I am building a class 2 rocket. I really do not find this math helpful. Is this video designed for someone taking a test? I am trying to get an impulse to mass ratio to make sure I have enough thrust. Or to cut weight.
@christophermyers8157
@christophermyers8157 5 лет назад
This is not for rockets in general but for rockets being launched with payload into orbit.
@entropyz5242
@entropyz5242 7 лет назад
Thank you good sir 🙏
@prateekgoyal8463
@prateekgoyal8463 5 лет назад
Very low volume
@MrJazzyOctopus
@MrJazzyOctopus 9 лет назад
Why is it that at 5:50 you were able to jump to that differential equation? My diffeq is rusty, so I got lost there.
@rubeniraheta6067
@rubeniraheta6067 9 лет назад
Massfinal-Massinitial=-dm so dmrocket/dt=-dm/dt
@troelsvejenchristensen8850
@troelsvejenchristensen8850 9 лет назад
Scott Hickle in mathematics the definition of a change in f(t) per. t is given by f'(t) = (f(t+dt)-f(t)) / dt where dt goes to zero In physics we use this all the time, so as you see, everytime we can rewrite an equation into for example (p(t+dt) - p(t))/dt this is really just the dirivative of p(t) also called p'(t) change in momentum per time. Or be it (m(t+dt)-m(t)) / dt = m'(t) the change in mass per time.
@adarshsharma8961
@adarshsharma8961 6 лет назад
why is velocity w.r.t ground equal to vr+vg
@adarshsharma8961
@adarshsharma8961 6 лет назад
i guess it should be vr-ve or ve=vr +vg
@cloud42269
@cloud42269 2 года назад
Meshchersky equation
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 4 года назад
I’m 2 and I understood this. I’m disappointed that you didn’t use string theory in your derivation. Oh well, beggars can’t be choosers
@felicytatomaszewska2934
@felicytatomaszewska2934 4 года назад
Attention seeker spotted 😂😍
@audience2
@audience2 4 года назад
String theory is not relevant
@ayushmandash948
@ayushmandash948 4 года назад
ok.......tell me what's string theory and relation with rocket science
@fomalhaut86
@fomalhaut86 5 лет назад
Great... now where is the solution to that equation?
@drewbregman9098
@drewbregman9098 4 года назад
did you even watch the video
@unitedcraft
@unitedcraft 5 лет назад
Elon ?
@keepthefaith9805
@keepthefaith9805 2 года назад
mass * joules = 1
@keepthefaith9805
@keepthefaith9805 2 года назад
Gotta square it though
@harshitdagar3651
@harshitdagar3651 8 лет назад
the subtitles XDXDXD
@brandonirwin693
@brandonirwin693 7 лет назад
14 here and I'm learning this I love rocket science
@jonathanemery9557
@jonathanemery9557 7 лет назад
DontWorry BeHappy 12 Here Same
@ZelForShort
@ZelForShort 6 лет назад
3 hear
@TristanAnderson31299
@TristanAnderson31299 6 лет назад
-1 here
@alial-musawi9898
@alial-musawi9898 6 лет назад
I am e^5i years old, and I am growing older at a rate of 24 faster than average. Currently my growth rate dA/dt is 86s/0.007s. My growth rate is unitless because A is also measured in seconds, and its derivative is the rate at which I grow in dt that an average person takes to grow.
@LightRealms
@LightRealms 6 лет назад
14 here so same lolol
@felicytatomaszewska2934
@felicytatomaszewska2934 4 года назад
4:30 according to the vector addition it should V_R - V_E but in video its V_R + V_E so either the expression or the figure is wrong.
@TheOGThumper
@TheOGThumper 4 года назад
V_E would have a negative value based on the reference frame. V_R - V_E would technically add the absolute values together.
@luisarturovaldovinosaguila3371
@luisarturovaldovinosaguila3371 3 года назад
I think there might me some inaccuracies in the way you do the calculus. I mean, first they should be partial differential equations and when you convert the d(x) in a the total derivative in time.
@zarazohashah9238
@zarazohashah9238 5 лет назад
I'm 13 and I want to study space.. I understood this pretty well
@akshitkumar9402
@akshitkumar9402 5 лет назад
Okay?
@bryancruz8022
@bryancruz8022 2 года назад
My dms are dry
@wronski11
@wronski11 7 лет назад
In your rocket equation you should have a minus i.e. -V_e*dm_r/dt!
@mavrixxio
@mavrixxio 5 лет назад
It either that or something is going on in terms of dot products
@eeshnehasingh
@eeshnehasingh 6 лет назад
My curiosity brought me here at 15yrs
@grayeagle1000
@grayeagle1000 7 лет назад
Right off the bat, instead of this guy either A) Bringing up the propulsion element of the need for an atmosphere to push off of (which is tabu because it would debunk the possibility of rocketry in space) OR B) Just ignoring this factual rocketry need and pretending only the "motion movement" of gas out the back of the rocket can push it (which is proven non-sense), Instead of choosing teams, this guy actually says BOTH viewpoints are Valid? WTF?
@erichinterman7665
@erichinterman7665 7 лет назад
I think you are a bit confused.
@infinityinf1
@infinityinf1 7 лет назад
I think you're confused. Assumptions are made all the time physics. All models are wrong at some level. What we do as physicist and engineers is constantly update models to try achieve the best one's we can.
@georgecarlson3606
@georgecarlson3606 5 лет назад
agreed, absolute shit video!
@WaiteDavidMSPhysics
@WaiteDavidMSPhysics 7 лет назад
Bleh Newtonian crap. Do at least the special relativistically correct v=ctanhθ Δθ=(vex/c)ln(mi/m) Yeah I know you're too slow to even be able to type such things into the text so much as understand it, so much as to derive it.
@infinityinf1
@infinityinf1 7 лет назад
What the hell is wrong with you? Was that the goal video? I think not. We're talking about the speed of a rocket, as of right now engineers don't need to worry about the small margin of error that comes from not using special relativity.
@grainfrizz
@grainfrizz 4 года назад
Dunning-Krugger
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