Rocket Jumping, Wavedashing, & The Quest To Become The Greatest 

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Two of my favorite games? In a 30+ minute video? With very good editing and somebody with a great voice? This is gonna be great.

This video is of outstanding quality, and I can clearly see the EmpLemon inspiration. You have a bright future.

While swift does use a hitbox-style controller, he actually doesn't use Hax's Boxx controller, he uses a pyramidal "prism" controller.

Oh I thought Haxs did something worse. I think he deserves a second chance.

Being in both the melee, and the TF2 communities, this video rocks. Also hax$ is coming to my local major, so got me hyped a lil lol.

Excellent video. And yet once again i ask for a Tank/Heavy class video!

great video. i think your “Death of The Author” type statement at 29:20 is interesting. but i’m especially interested in where that line at 28:14 is drawn for others, as i feel like this video sidesteps some more serious or disturbing reasons that one could lose their reputation (which i won’t mention here. i think you get the idea). while hax wasn’t in a great mental space at the time, your video fails to mention some features of his video essay that made people like me who were out of the loop a lot more uncomfortable with him (quoting hitler, theorizing Leffen was a totalitarian, etc). i’ve also been seeing some comments here that cast some doubt in my non-melee mind that he was the undisputed technical G.O.A.T. and i feel like people will get the impression you’re moving the criteria to fit your conclusion (kinda like Boshy LMAO). either way, it was a great watch!

This has reminded me of something, making me wonder about the best. Some dont get the recognition to even hope for it. And while recognition and skill can generally be linked to one another, that isn't always the case. Its sad that someone may be potentially the best, but they may have had some bad experience, or just couldn't click in time to get the chance to success.

exceptional video. love your editing style, very minimal, clean, yet meticulously crafted, i feel like every edit has a point, everything looks soo good together. it really shows how much effort youve put into every aspect of the video. not even mentioning the fact, that you cover 2 of my most loved games, and really putting the parallels of the 2 games out there. keep up the amazing work, really looking forward to future uploads :D

Starts talking about tf2 and melee... Plays DRG music Legend

Whether Boshy is the GOAT or not does not depend of whether he has cheated or not. It’s an objective question with a boolean answer - he is in fact the greatest rocket jumper of all time.

Amazing video dude! Fully expecting you to go somewhere someday

Beautifully written and scripted and formatted. Great job!

Bro why is this video one of the best ive ever seen? Its just so amazing every clip is in place. It's just beautiful congratulations ❤️❤️

The editing quality, the points you made, everything about this video raptured my attention and I'm positive you'll achieve greatness in the direction you're going with your content. Keep it up and one day YOU will be the goat!

Love your editing style

These are 2 topics I’m a big fan of so I’m glad you did them justice, really well put together video

The GOATs may not live to be awarded in there accomplishments now but in the future they will be remembered

I'm not even close to the end of this video, but I think watching just the start shows something about modern youtube. The quality of content at this point is insane, and so many small creators deserve to be noticed. I wish you luck on your journey cause you deserve to be up there with soundsmith, uncle dane, lazy purple and elmaxo

I have been talking about needing a video about this exact topic for like a week now this is a godsend

I love when the deep rock galactic music plays on your channel

Beautiful video about two games and two players I love. Thank you. :)

WOOOOOOOOOOOO BEST VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WITH AMAZING EDITING

The intro having 2 kendama clips are great! Also 2 of the coolest movement tricks in games is an awesome subject!

best video ive seen this year, you keep one upping yourself with every upload. Absolutely fucking awesome work man

Dang He Was Right About This Being His Best Video! I Love Documentaries On People! “Th-That’s Cheating! L-Like When You Use Wavedash!”

Melee and TF2 in one video is pure gold, very well presented and enjoyable video.

exceptional video

The editing in this video is just so good

keep up the good work

tf i thought this had millions of views, banger video keep it up man

almost every new video you make is your best yet,.

Incredible video, seriously. Loved this. P.S., for those into melee tech skill, I'd recommend looking up the player "Relno," and his video "Godspeed." As far as raw technical difficulty, I'd say Relno set a standard above even Hax$, but he did not compete at nearly the same level or invest as much time into the community as Hax$ did. Going into this video I was thinking "idk I think Relno is the G.O.A.T. of technical skill," but this video reminded me well why that title ought to go to Hax$ after all. Thanks for the excellent video essay!

havent watched yet but im hype cause melee and tf2 are my fav games ever. thank you for making this

I think the real problem for hax$ was his decision to position himself in a "it's me or leffen" situation. I think leffen definitely did deserve to be banned before but he seems like a more decent person nowadays. I don't think either leffen or hax$ should be banned, but at this point we're too far past the post to change anything. I also think the discourse on the boxx is generaly stupid. the fact that there's a melee controller that is more efficient, more comfortable, and comes with less risks, and people are unhappy about that is crazy to me. I think there's a lot of things that the melee community needs, and a lot of ways that they need to change. but I doubt they will change. I think if melee ever dies, it will be because the community was too stubborn to allow the game to thrive.

incredible.

Amazing video

i now understand why it took like 30 hours to edit this great goddamn job

Great video

Certified banger

TF2 and smash bros are some of my favorite games of all time. My little idiot brain likes seeing this mashup. You warm my heart. (:

I have a good feeling you will be successful after seeing the great quality of this video

Great vid I want some drg content 👀

great video

tf2, and yoyo references?! This is too good

what a great vid

"everyone will play Fox" *develops arthritis At least he was passionate Edit: *I'm scared*

They can kick hats and hacks but they can't remove the distrust I have for smaller channels and them not being chatgpt

there's so many people who passionately train to be the best at what they do, consistently have a positive impact on their own niche communities, and are still largely unknown. why did you decide to derail the entire topic of your essay to defend the mistakes of people who dont even know you? why do you even think its your place to uphold these individuals when the respective communities have already had their own discourse on the topic?

Craziest part about this whole video is that AMSA is more technical than hax anyway

Great video!! There’s so much to talk about when it comes to tf2 and melees player’s and even just the games themselves that it’s always a great video when they’re together. It’s just a shame that the companies behind each of them never cared to see the full potential that these games had and will always have. #savetf2 #freeMelee

Epic content

good video :3

this vid should have at least 13k likes i was so suprised when it was less than 400

This video is incredible. I bet you had some inspiration from the RU-vidr EmpLemon, you made the video with equal levels of quality and engagement compared to him. I'm really enjoying the direction you're taking your channel, all your videos are very interesting and easily digestible, even when they are longer than 20 minutes. congratulations, I see you with 1 million+ subscribers in no time

more rocket jumping content on youtube wooooooooooo

i love and hate modern youtube and vidoes like this are why i love it

"from Lance Armstrong-" Aight. "to Dream-" WHAT

9:03 American: "European"

Lucid and DefunctLand could narrate for each other and no one would ever notice

18:06 As someone who LOVES Smash and plays platform fighters competitively, i dont think this looks any better/cooler than the previous clip. I understand he's doing a lot more inputs a lot faster, but after the first segment it's pretty much the same speed as the Ultimate clip. It's also unfairly comparing two slower heavy weights in a floatier engine to the fastest character in the fastest engine 😂

10 seconds in and i know the video is great.

I would kill to see an awesome animated short film of a fight between Melee Fox and Soldier.

Came for tf2 and melee and then I saw you praise Tyler the creator at the beginning and that’s better than any targeted add I’ve ever recived

Clearly this guy has never heard of larry...

wow !

And HAX$'s ban appeal has been rejected again :/

tf2, melee, and ow are the games that provide experiences like no other. characters, tech, and skill expression that isn’t seen anywhere else in any game. genji, tracer, lucio, doomfist, scout, spy, soldier, fox, marth, captain falcon, and yoshi. games don’t come close to the skill expression of these characters alone let alone the entire rest of the rosters.

When I saw the title of this video and watched the intro, I thought you were referring to hax as the goat of melee not the goat of tech in melee. Maybe you should've made that more clear? As you never mentioned that he's specifically the goat of melee tech until more than half way through the videp

Hold up... If you think bout it... Wave dashing and rocket jumping is kinda the same (in control wise) because like it seems hard at start, learn from a tutorial, gets the hang of it, starts using it in games, and use it as a skill

Idk man Relno had insane tech skill

Love the video. But i really wish you didnt turn down the music so much when you start talking lmaooo

this video was made for me

Glossing over the history and creation of the B0XX kinda makes the story of Hax much prettier than the reality, so I get why you did it for the goal of this video, the story you were trying to tell. I kinda just feel like the nice pretty narrative where Hax was this beacon of the community until he weirdly decided to take down Leffen through community engineering falls apart when, you know, he had a history of doing this exact sort of thing and the only reason no one called him out for it before was because his previous target, Hit Box the creators of the Hit Box and Smash Box, the people who came up with the idea for a button controller for Smash, the people who by Hax's own admission were doing the thing already without him until he joined up, weren't socially connected to the Smash community at large and didn't have the reputation that he did and thus were deemed to be acceptable targets of takedown by the Smash community. Whether you take Hax's side or not in that situation, it's still a fact that Hax did not invent the idea for his controller and would not have even made the B0XX if it weren't for meeting the Hit Box guys at EVO where they were demoing the Smash Box, which opened Hax's mind to the possibility of alternate controller types. Hax was going to keep playing on GCC after his surgery and thought the Smash Box was a gimmick that wouldn't go anywhere until he played on it. Then after joining the team, getting some ideas, and then leaving the team to make a competing product, he puts out a takedown video for why the Hit Box team shouldn't be trusted and you should support his project instead of theirs. And of course, because Hax is such a great guy to work with, people he was partnering to make the B0XX would later go on to be very untrusting of Hax and growing a distaste for him as a person that they would leave the B0XX project, and one of those people went on to make their own competing project using the work they did with Hax on the B0XX, which became the Frame1 (imo the better controller of the two). Also framing the evidence.zip videos as being factually correct but just presented in a bad way is absolutely insane. Most of the points raised in those videos, and I've watched all of the revisions, were insane ramblings, past transgressions that the community already acknowledged and moved on from, and petty nitpicks. He absolutely in no way made a good case for himself and it's frankly nuts to imply they were well researched or intelligent videos. You cannot in good faith say that points such as "Leffen was mocking me by wearing a red shirt" are intelligent and thought out, even the Hbox stuff you could argue changed his reputation in the community negatively, but Leffen is allowed to hate someone just like tons of people hate Leffen. You can argue the videos weren't a strong enough case to be banned, but let's not pretend they were anything but a smear campaign for Leffen that simply failed because they were built on a foundation of sand. And this is why the glossing over of the B0XX history kinda changes the narrative of reality, because you could maybe give Hax the benefit of the doubt and say the evidence.zip videos were a one off incident made in good faith if this one thing existed in a vacuum, but it doesn't. It is the second major incident of Hax putting out videos to smear the reputation of his DIRECT competition. The best you can really argue is that the indefinite ban is too strict for the things Hax did, but he still did them. His reputation was created by him alone. In the context of greatness, I think it's hard to argue that Hax deserves the status you give him. He was a top player for a while but never the best, he didn't have the idea for the controller he now builds his status on he took it from someone else (by his own admission), he knows a lot about the engine and mechanics of Melee but tons of people do, Hax makes content for very niche small aspects of Melee but is that enough to consider him the greatest of all time? It's a flimsy premise that only makes sense when you ignore core details to what actually happened.

8:01 wow it me 😎

been saying tf2 is the fps melee. such a good video

2:37 rock and STONE 🪨🪨🪨!!!!!! FOR CARL

this is the part with the car

Hax was great until he apologized to the mob. Now he'll never stop apologizing.

Leffen definitely didn't go unpunished in 2013 but ok lol

jump_jurf is always an isntant thumbs up

Boshy isn't the greatest rocket-jumper walking the planet. He's the greatest rocket-jumper flying the planet.

195. What icon of damage.

Hey man, just in case you weren't aware - Hax is actually unbanned in his region and has been regularly entering NYC tournaments. He's still "banned" generally but it is down to the TOs of any event he tries to enter to decide whether or not they allow him to enter. Really good video though amazing production value and writing.

An amazing video, but unfortunately, you missed the part where rocket jumping DIDN'T kill known pyromaniac Abraham Lincoln, but instead, it was John "Tower of Hats" Booth, who did so to add Honest Abe's terrifyingly tall hat to his tower

As a melee player whos been following the scene since 2013 I knew the melee part of this video was gonna be whack when you showed a blue fox talking about the GOAT. Im pretty sure the only melee player who would call hax the most technical player is hax. Hes also on box so its not even really the same as controller. I watched the first video Hax put out on leffen and you did not do a good job of representing just how wacky and delusional his attempted leffen takedown video was. One of his proofs that leffen was a dark triad pyscho was that leffen wore the same red addidas track pants that hax wore. I really enjoyed the first half of the video but the second half has made me start questioning just how accurately you told boshis story.

I dunno man. I like Hax but if we're talking "the most technical" I'm not sure. Have you seen Relno?

To think Leffen is still a part of the melee community, and not banned?! Absolutely wild to me.

TF2 and Smash Bros? What a combo

Want a promotion? You better be the nephew of the boss! Meritocracy is a lie mate.

real

okay dont include the part where hax tries to label leffen a narcissist and uses leffens adidas hoodie as proof

While he being still a great player, I don't think Hax$ is the greatest of technical skill on melee, like, not even close.

WHAT ABOUT HUNGRYBOX?

Damn, the views to subs ratio is crazy. Surprised the likes aren’t as close

Schmovement 🥰

calling dream a skilled player is a spit in the face to every real minecraft speedrunner

deep rock galactics

hax fucking money