Did you see Apollo's fate coming? ROCKY Playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLQHhQlj8i5dqqNXJ2-Bx6odt8QEjG5QCN DEMOLITION MAN: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T21kSvZFSNQ.html
Drago's wife, Ludmilla is played by Brigitte Nielsen (also model & singer). She was married to Sly for 19 months, 1985-1987. They made only 2 movies together, Rocky IV (1985) & COBRA (1986). COBRA is a very awesome crime thriller and worth the watch.
How many boxers have been killed in the ring? The total number of boxers to have died in the ring or from sustained injuries is estimated to be more than 2,000. According to a study by Manuel Velazquez, which examined boxers who died in the ring between 1720-2011, there were 1,865 deaths. More than a decade later, this number has now surpassed 2,000.Nov 23, 2023
I was nine years old when this movie came out. So I did not see it coming. Concerning Rocky V, it may be weakest of the franchise, but it's not a bad movie at all. Personally, I think it is a good story, but the end fight wasn't to my taste. My rating 2, 1, 6, 3, 4, 5.
“If he dies, he dies” that’s one of the most brutal cold hearted lines ever. Also Carl Weather’s acting during that scene was so believable that a doctor on set thought he was really hurt.
Its playing on a basic stereotype from Americans during the era that all Russians were cold hearted people. It was a way to try and villainize and dehumanize the Soviets beginning with the cold war.
@@jenmurrayxo little FYI. These punches weren't all fake. They wanted to connect a bit so it doesn't look fake plus Dolph Lundgren forgot parts of the choreography so he started to really hit Stallone. Stallone was in the hospital for 9 days after 1 punch to the chest. Another little FYI: Dolph Lundgren had his breakthrough with this movie. He did lots of other movies mainly because of his physique but the man is not only 6'5 tall, crazy strong and a black belt and Champion in Karate. He also has an IQ of 160, speaks 7 languages and has a PhD in chemical engineering.
Also I had read that in that shot where Dolph threw Carl across the ring toward the ropes that Carl had apparently asked Dolph to light up beforehand or something, he didn't, and Carl got so fed up with Dolph he left the set proclaiming he was done/quitting. Luckily Sly was able to play peacemaker between Carl/Dolph so they could finish the shots.
I am in this movie (I am a Russian). They filmed our scenes in Vancouver. I was there the day that Stallone was hit so hard that he nearly died. Dolph warned him that it would hurt him, but Stallone wanted accuracy. A funny thing that happened on set was I saw this little girl asked Dolph if she could touch his pointy hair. Two security guards immediately blocked her. Dolph shoved them aside and bent way over for her. The man was a heavy Weight kickboxing champion. He was the toughest guy in the building, that little girl was no threat to him.
dolph was an extremely accomplished real fighter and a high-level intellect with two degree or higher level qualifications, one of which was chemical engineering and by all accounts an absolute gentleman of a person
My brother and I saw this movie opening night in the theater. It was ELECTRIC! The crowd was on its feet yelling at the screen, cheering on Rocky. Just an incredible experience.
Same with me and my brother- someone brought an air horn into the theater and blasted it during the final fight. The whole theater was on its feet cheering. Greatest moviegoing experience of my childhood.
Nobody thought that Rocky III could be beat - that film was at drive-in theater July 4th with fireworks right after. It was amazing. I still remember the whole night. But then came Rocky IV that was released just after Thanksgiving in 1985 I think. Such a great movie. Jen isn't going to like the rest of the Rocky films for obvious reasons.
During Apollo's fight with Drago, another RU-vidr said "Please don't die, Apollo! I like you too much now!" Apollo went from antagonist (though never really a villain) to a character so beloved that his legacy would be the basis for a successful new series of movies generations later.
The word "nonsense" has no right being in the same sentence as a Rocky movie. Each movie has a valuable life lesson in it, the core one being have heart and never give up.
Eventhough I prefer this version, Rocky IV: Rocky vs. Drago - The Ultimate Director's Cut is worth watching before watching Creed II, it flows better with Creed II in term of style.
@countgeekula9143: We saw the Rocky movies on VHS at the end of the 80s as kids (in Europe) and although I know that the Rocky from '76 is deservedly at the top of the mountain, for us at that time it was more the third and fourth parts in that position. In retrospect the reason for this was the same reason why many of us think of the pop culture of the 80s (USA) with nostalgia. It was "too much": colorful, vivid, bright, exaggerated (movies, music, games, advertisements, toys, cars, even the hairstyles and the fashion) and at the same time it was rich in emotions, enthusiasm and creativity too. I think after all it was more human compared to today.
I love it. ❤ But watching this I was thinking that Dolph Lundgren would beat Sylvester Stallone in a boxing match. *BUT* Rocky can beat Drago, _because Stallone wrote it that way_ . LOL But seriously they are both great men. Stallone is an action legend, an actor, director and great writer. Fantastic writer. And Lundgren is an action movie star, a kickboxing champion and a Chemical Engineer and he has another degree. Plus he was once the holder of the most kills on screen in movies. _I don't know if he still has that one_ . The Punisher with Dolph Lundgren is a movie where he's the good guy, but he kills many people. He even killed someone in Rocky IV. 😮
Dolph is the real deal, a Karate master and has a Masters in Chemical Engineering. Stallone wanted him to punch him while filming the movie. He put Stallone in the hospital with one hit. The tall blonde was at the time Stallone's wife. Fun reaction Jen!
@@jenmurrayxoRocky’s closing speech after he knocks Drago out also makes Rocky IV the best Cold War themed sports movie. All the rest have victors act like their side is superior, but Rocky pushed for peace as a empathetic human being who helped fans actually end the Cold War itself
The bewildered, overwhelmed shocked look during james browns performance number was dolph actually him being star struck as he's a huge james brown fan.
The contrasts in training were really well done. Running in snow, chopping down trees, pulling sleds, climbing mountains, lifting horse carts train all the muscle groups you need for boxing or martial arts. And in harsh conditions like that, it’s great for the condition and immune system, once you’ve got over the initial shock. Having spent a winter in Russia in 2018/19, it is pretty harsh. And I loved every minute of it.
Being released at the height of the Cold War really made this a much more emotional movie. I saw this in the theater when it was released and can say first hand, that the crowd cheered and clapped at the end of this movie. Lots of national pride tied in to the love for the character.
This was more from the tail end of the Cold War. I mean, its just a few years more and the Soviets are inviting American heavy metal bands to put on concerts in Moscow. Gorbachev's era marked an era when the Soviets started to feel economic pressure from so many years of spending a ton of money on missiles and tanks, and too little reinvestment in their farms and infrastructure. Socialism requires the government to actively manage every activity, while American farmers at the time could grow the crops they chose, even non-food crops, to turn a profit so they could afford to farm again another year. Sadly, even American farmers are ridiculously regulated now.
@@MGower4465 from a pure timeline perspective, yes it is closer to 1989 than 1960 but given the Olympic boycott in 1984 and the overall tension that I know I was feeling at the time of this movie (and Red Dawn), I think “height” is indicative of the level of tension as opposed to the midpoint of the timeline. My only purpose in commenting was to highlight the additional context that raised the stakes in this movie beyond just Apollo’s death.
4:44 Michael Pataki, the actor playing the Soviet guy, you've seen him before in Star Trek. He played a Klingon in "The Trouble With Tribbles" He instigated the fight in the bar. "Did I say the Enterprise should be hauling garbage? I meant she should be hauled away *as* garbage!"
I love how invested you become in the character , not just here , but other films . You look as worried as if you know him irl . Your heart is like Rocky's , big and caring . Love your Jenthusiasm !! And in this corner "The Canadian Cutie , ' Nut Punch Murray ' " !!!
15:05 - Yes! Jen gets it!! I’ve seen this entire series more times than I can count ( and it never gets old), but Jen is the first reactor I’ve seen who understands that when Adriane yells “You can’t win!” that it’s a huge, HUGE moment. No matter how big a challenge he’s faced, no matter how much the odds were stacked against him, up until now when Rocky was having his doubts Adriane ALWAYS ALWAYS HAD HIS BACK AND ENCOURAGED HIM….UNTIL THIS MOMENT. Speaking just for myself, that’s the secret to a husband’s strength. When the woman you love says “you can do this”, or “I believe in you” , or “you’re my hero” (my personal favorite), we can literally walk through fire. So when she says “You can’t win!” it’s a huge punch in the gut.
It is insane how many times in real life I've found myself thinking of Rocky's "Going in one more round when you don't think you can, that's what makes all the difference in your life" speech to keep myself going when I thought I couldn't take any more. It's not just because I love the line but because it's just so true.
I saw this w/ my dad in the theater as a child. I'll never forget how everyone jumped out of their seats cheering when Rocky finally drew blood from Drago.
Jen is such a great reactor. She doesn't pick apart the movie. She doesn't try to predict what's going to happen. She just enjoys herself. A true cinephile.
18:10 This is the other song the band Survivor did for Rocky, aside Eye of the Tiger, with a similar punching tempo. It's titled Burning Heart. By the way, the Russia in this movie was actually Jackson Hole, Wyoming. The Russian stadium was really the PNE Agrodome in Vancouver.
One more thing! You gotta love Jen! She gets super invested in the movie/series. She learns the song, she learns more or less every damn name. I dont know anyone else that gets this invested!
I have always said Rocky IV is the best sports movie made involving the Cold War because after beating Drago, Rocky used his speech to push for peace on a human level. All others have the winners acting like their victory makes their side of the Cold War superior in some way
Jen, you nailed it with your summary. Keep on reacting to 5 & 6. Side note, 1985 was when a 'younger' head of the USSR was placed in power, Gorbachev, and he started the Perestroika policy of opening to the West, out of economic need, so his 'character standing at the end to clap for Rocky means that Rocky won the Cold War as well.
About your question about boxings deaths, yes "a lot" of boxers died in the ring (is not common don't get me wrong, and very rare nowadays), in the movies you can see that they box for 15 rounds, that was the usual at that time for championship titles, but it was changed to 12 round in 1982 (still 12 nowadays) after a dead in a title match in the 14th round, the chances for dying after the 12th round was a lot higher both in the ring or right after the fight. Also, when gloves were introduced in late 18xx early 19xx, the number of deaths went up for a bit, before gloves very few boxers hit with all their strenght since they could break their own hand at any time and lose the fight, but with gloves that was not a problem, so until they could "calibrate" the gloves a bit more all the fight were more brutal. And yes, in other sports there are also some deaths time to time unfortunately, motor sports are dangerous for obvious reasons, but even in professional cycling is not rare to see a couple of deaths per year in some unlucky falls or in car accidents while training.
Apollo's line "You fight great, but I'm a great fighter" made me think of John McClane in the Die Hard movies. He's not a fancy fighter with highly polished techniques, and he often ends up going toe to toe with opponents who seem to be much better trained in martial arts, but he just refuses to lose.
Favorite Rocky movie overall and Def favorite fight. Between the Lamborghini montage and the song hitting after Duke and Rocky are head to head saying "no pain-no pain, no pain-no pain" then the beat drops to the fight montage, chills and excitement every time.
I saw this when it first came out at the theater. Yes this was during the cold war. That was why Rocky's speech at the end was so true to us that lived during that time. Them fighting in the ring was better than having a real war. Enjoyed you reaction.
This movie is proof that sometimes, the dubbing can make a better job than the original. When Rocky says he sees three Drago, Paulie replies "hit the one in the middle". But in the french dubbed version, Paulie actually replies "Just pick one and kill him" which I always thought was such a good line.
Noted 80s movie composer Vince DiCola wrote and performed the synth instrumental music heard throughout. He also scored the original Transformers animated movie, which came out a year after this. If you liked his stuff, I highly recommend that movie's soundtrack.
Rocky 3 will always be my favorite, but watching Rocky 4 through your eyes is fantastic. This is the perfect example why I enjoy reaction videos! Thanks Jen❤
8:09 When this first came out, I saw it in a theater in Portland, OR, and when Apollo said the line about being ancient history, a teenage girl in audience said "Ooh, he's crying!" Carl Weathers really touched her heart with his acting in that scene - everyone else's too, but it impressed me that he moved a youngster who might not be able relate that easily to getting old.
"Is it always the same announcers?" Yes Jen, pretty much. Stu Nahan, the sliver-haired one with glasses, was a famous sportscaster, TV & radio, here in Los Angeles.
Rocky IV is the "most Eighties" of the franchise. With the robot, the MTV-style music video montages, the synth score, and the villainous Soviet fighter who can literally hit harder than bullets, everything feels stylistically heightened to weird and surreal levels. Despite being the highest-grossing Rocky movie, the movie tonally sticks out so much that Stallone produced his own re-edited "Director's Cut" of the movie during the COVID lockdown. It removes the robot and adds more scenes with Apollo, bringing a more grounded dramatic tone to the film that is more in line with the franchise as a whole. Oh, and the robot? It was only in the movie because Stallone saw it in an L.A. pizza restaurant and thought it was cool. That's it. Sly retrospectively lamented that choice because of how clearly ridiculous it was.
Dolph Lundgren was the real deal, a kickboxing champion and a genius with a Masters in Chemical Engineering. He hit Stallone in the chest and put him in the hospital nearly killing him.
Absolutely love this reaction. This is one of my favorite Rocky movies. Stallone has done a masterful job of creating this character arc. You are the best. ❤❤❤
In 1982 Kim Duk koo died in the ring against Ray Mancini. Mancini was a superstar boxer and he was never the same. Blamed himself for years and it killed his career. Kim's mother told Ray it wasnt his fault and he wasnt to blame but it took him years of depression to come to terms with it.
Boom, Boom Mancini as he was called during his fighting days was my favorite fighter back when he was active. The Kim Duk Koo, Mancini fight is on You Tube/
Several people have died in boxing. Another great boxing movie is Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe directed by Ron Howard, set during the Great Depression, and a true story. Without giving too much away the antagonist did cause a death from one of his fights.
I can't help it. I absolutely love it when Jen gets so worked up and emotional during these movies. I'm 43 and I watched this movie when it came out and I felt the same way. I was so upset when Apollo died I almost cried. Thank you for bringing back that feeling I had all those years ago. Please continue watching the series and take care of yourself. I have subscribed and I will continue to give you support!!!!
i agree, the first rocky movie had something special that the other movies dont have, but all the other movies gave us something different in an entertaining/satisfying way.
Jen, just when I thought I couldn't love your reactions any more, you nail it with the first Rocky reflection. It's a standout for so many reasons, but for me it builds a world of characters people genuinely care about. Great insight and thank you.
I definitely agree that while all the Rocky movies are fun to watch, the original is unique in that it can also hold its own as "cinema". The actor who played Drago, Dolph Lundgren, had a reasonably successful action film career after this movie. Also, "I must break you" is what my older brother would say to me every time we competed against each other.
Hey Hey there Jen Murray. "We will travel by dogsled!" "Labrat go home!" ❤ Jen you are awesome. Always love your reactions. You have a perfect night. 😉👌
Dolph Lundrgren had extensive military training. Sly asked him to give him a real punch, in the chest. He bruised sly’s heart, and Stallone spent 2 weeks in icu.
Context: This is during the Cold War, US vs USSR. Jen, you are correct, "Rocky" was the best of the entire series, and stands out in terms of theme and story-telling. Most of the sequels are pretty good too, but have a very different flavor. This is the best training montage of all the Rocky movies, and that's saying something. "I want to believe that heart matters in a fight!" That's what all the Rocky movies are about. If you want to see a movie about a boxer with deep regret over killing someone in the ring, watch The Quiet Man with John Wayne. It's a great romance, and that is Wayne's character's backstory.
I personally think that Tony Burton as Duke has the best acting performance of the entire. And my favorite line. "He's worried! You cut him! You hurt him! You see? You see? He's not a machine, he's a man!"
I would love it if Jen wrote a Rocky movie. Something about the way she said "punch him in the nuts! I know that's not allowed but I don't care" during the fight makes me think it'd be really fun. You're certainly right that these movies went in a different direction after the first one. The first one was very much a drama and a love story and it just so happened that the main character was a boxer. Rocky 2, 3 and 4 all make the boxing more important. You should definitely keep watching though because in various ways, the rest of the movies try to recapture what made the first one special.
The end of round 2 after Rocky cuts Drago with Tony telling him, "you see, he's not a machine, he's a man" juxtaposed with Drago telling his cornermen that Rocky isn't human and like a piece of iron is brilliant. I love that part of this movie.
In my opinion, the strongest scene of the film is Rocky and Adrian talking. In all the previous films, she was the one who inspired her husband to fight. But then even she says, "You can't win!". And it is after the reunion that the training begins to go as it should, and you have no doubt that he will win.
Final scene was filmed in Vancouver. The whole fight was at Pacific Coliseum. I work in film and TV and over the years so many extras are like: I worked on that movie.... And I am like. So many of you did as Soviet Citizens. LMAO
At the beginning, my heart just sank when you said that you hope Apollo would be in it. Like the legendary boxer Rocky Marciano, the more he got hit the harder he hit back. This came out when the Soviet Union was starting collapse and emotions were running high between the US and USSR.
Dolph Lundgren was a beast when he made this movie. Jen, you should totally check out Universal Soldier, and Masters of the Universe (Dolph plays He-man in that one)
I watch these Rocky 4 reactions for 2 reasons. The look on people's faces after the famous/infamous line "If he dies, he dies" followed by the fade transition into the funeral and watching people react to Rocky's fight with Drago.
This is MY Rocky movie, since it was the first one I watched, so I don't have the same perspective as someone who started from the beginning. For me going from this awesome spectacle to the smaller scale first film, made it hard for me to appreciate the original movie for what it was....But I'm not going to be mad at anyone who says they like the first film the best! Anyway, Rocky IV has always held a special place in my heart and brings back fond memories of watching VHS tapes at my grandparents cottage on Lake Michigan, so for that reason alone it will always be my favorite!
5:00 - Paulie RIP - Gerald Tommaso DeLouise (April 30, 1940 - October 8, 2023), better known as Burt Young, was an American actor. He played Rocky Balboa's brother-in-law and best friend Paulie Pennino in the Rocky film series, his performance in the first installment of which earned him a nomination for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
Fun review as always! Saw ROCKY IV in theaters opening weekend and not one patron sat in their seat by the end of this epic. Still holds up as an '80s classic, decades later...
26:49 _"He's cut! He's cut!"_ And _that's_ the point where the tables turn. Drago has been presenting himself as some kind of fighting machine, but machines don't bleed.
You've come this far, you've gotta keep going. 5 is a bit divisive, but it's not bad. 6 is a must see and then we transition to Creed. Also, damned good.
I couldn't wait for you to do this film! One thing that I don't see mentioned enough is the music in all of this series! These movies are fantastic stories, but the music is great as well and makes you feel what you're supposed to feel at any particular moment. Everything is so well constructed and thought out, especially in the first four films! Happy New Year Jen!
Rocky 4 - Montage-tastic! Probably hard to see with fresh eyes the way we see this one with our nostalgia glasses, but I'm glad you enjoyed it none the less. Rocky V is by far, by far, the worst entry, but I would stick it out because Rocky 6 is a good movie and the Creed movies are fantastic. OMG I just realized this movie isn't even the halfway point, amazing. Your observations about how special the first movie is really ring true, the character work in that movie unquestionably lay the foundation the entire franchise is built on. These other movies only work because we care about these characters.
Stallone has said in hindsight it was the wrong call to have Apollo die. That he thought it would have been more interesting to have him live but be confined to a wheelchair.
Literally stopped everything I was doing to watch this with you. I agree how this movie makes you think about how special the first one is. The soundtrack for this one is different, but also amazing!!!! Radio hits too. Survivor, who did "Eye Of The Tiger" also did "Burning Heart" in this one. Keep on going because there is definitely more Rocky to come!!!! Thank for being such a wonderful person watch movies (and tv shows-can somebody say Star Trek?) with!!!!❤
The director's cut version of this movie feels more in line with the earlier films. This theatrical version feels like a roller coaster theme park ride of a movie. Still fun and cool but yeah a lot different vibes for sure. Rocky Balboa, the 6th movie will feel more original again. Not exactly like the first movie, but unique its own way
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The most amazing thing about this movie is that Rocky won the fight in the second half of the FIFTEENTH round!?! They don't even have 16 round boxing fights anymore. The number of boxers dealing with severe brain injuries was mind blowing in the 80's, so literally every single professional boxing league in the entire world switched to 12 round maximums for any fight in the 90's.
One of the ringside announcers is Stu Nahan, longtime local LA TV sports reporter. He also interviewed Spiccolli, in his surf championship dream, in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
The story I always remember about this movie is Sly Stalone telling Dolph Lungrun to just punch him hard for real instead of like stunt fighting... And Stalone ended up needing heart surgery
