@@brandorios5989 Listen, Mayweather is a savvy boxer and business man. But he ain't dal best ever. Hand picking opponents and dodging Pacquiao doesn't sit well with me as a competitor. Dal goat has 2 take on all comers. Floyd didn't do that. And I'm a fan of his.
Toward the end of ''Rocky Marciano,'' a coming Showtime docudrama, the retired boxer flies to Denver on the final day of his life to visit Joe Louis in a psychiatric hospital. When he leaves, Marciano hands the hospital administrator a bag full of cash to upgrade Louis's care. Heartwarming and dramatic, but false. It could not have happened. Louis was committed to the Denver hospital in May 1970, suffering from emotional problems. Five months later, he returned home. But Marciano died on Aug. 31, 1969.
There's hundreds of thousands of black Italians. Afro-Italians are born and are raised in Italy, citizen of African descent or of mixed African and Italian roots. Afro Italians total population 1,096,089. Regions with significant populations Rome, Milan, Turin, Palermo, Bologna, Brescia, Bergamo and Florence. In 2014 alone over 170,000 migrants arrived which represented the biggest influx of people into one country in European Union history. 91 percent arrive via Africa. African migrants specifically use Libyan coasts to travel across the Mediterranean Sea. Although departing from Libya, most are from Ghana and Nigeria. The European Union has put forth 1.8 billion euros for Africa's refugee efforts in Europe. To whom it may concern i am Afro-Italian and proud of it.
Started boxing late in life, flat footed, slow, but had the most hardcore work ethic of any fighter. He had a custom made 200lb bag to strengthen his fists. The result: undefeated.
While stationed in England, Marciano and a fellow soldier named James Murphy robbed two Englishman, brutally beating them up in the process *--@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* They were court-martialed and convicted after which Marciano was sentenced to 7 years hard labour, Murphy 10 years, to be served in a British military prison. Marciano was released after 22 months and dishonorably discharged. -@ *Unbeaten: Rocky Marciano's Fight for Perfection in a Crooked World by Mike Stanton May 29, 2018*
For two decades the Marciano's have been trying to remove this article *@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993* but cannot because it's all factual. Many defamation lawsuits have been filed but all failed. Little Rocky was seriously messed up. His friends tried to help but he refused. He caused his own demise through his insatiable desire for sex and money.
Marciano boarded a small Cessna 172 with pilot Glenn Belz, and Frank Farrell, the son of Louis Thomas Fratto, born Luigi Tommaso Giuseppe Fratto, also known as "Lew Farrell" and "Cock-eyed", an American labor racketeer and organized crime figure in Chicago, Illinois, and Des Moines, Iowa, from the 1930s to his death in 1967. A massive storm system challenged Belz's relative inexperience (231 hours of total flight time) as the plane flew west from Chicago over Iowa. Trying to land at a small airfield outside Newton, Belz crashed the plane into a tree about two miles short of the intended runway. On August 31, 1969, all aboard, including Marciano, died on impact. It was all Rocky's fault, he pressured the amateur pilot into flying even though he knew they were headed towards severe thunderstorms. Why? What was so important in Des Moines? His business was loansharking and he had to collect 35K. Which is equivalent to 290K today.
@@jameswalker5645the three knockdown rule was around before then. If I remember correctly. I just think it was an option for the fighters and/or just rarely implemented by the refs unless someone had been taking a BEATING for a while (ex. Joe vs George).
@@clintwalker6389 If your point is that fighting is outside of being a gentleman, perhaps you have missed how this whole thread started? However, when you are in a fight there is definitely an honourable way to do it, vs not. Little things, stopping when the bell goes, not biting, punching above the belt, etc, etc.
So did All the other hundreds & hundreds of champions in all the divisions. Manny Pacquiao, Sugar Ray Robinson, Marvin Hagler, Vitali, Usyk, Ali, Foreman, Holmes, on and on and on.
Zhang weighs - 285 Bakole - 285 Joyce - 280 Briggs - 265 Ruiz - 265 Grant - 265 Fury - 262 Parker - 250 Foreman - 250 Vitali - 250 Peter - 250 Joshua - 250 Whyte - 250 Ibeabuchi - 245 Lennox - 245 Kabayel - 245 Wladimir - 245 Dubois - 245 Anderson - 245 Sanchez - 245 Ruddock - 245 Hrgovic - 245 Wardley - 240 Bowe - 240 Ortiz - 240 Witherspoon - 235 Tua - 235 Dokes - 235 Bruno - 230 Morrison - 230 Cooney - 230 Wilder - 225 Thomas - 225 Usyk - 223 Lyle - 220 Tyson - 218 Holmes - 218 Ali - 218 Liston - 218 *Moore - 175 lb LH champion from 1952 to 1962.* *Charles - 181 lb HW champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.* *Marciano - 184 lb HW champion with 67" flyweight reach.* Heavyweight was only 175 lbs back then. Moore & Charles best years were at MW (147 to 160) and LH (160 to 175). Moore had his first pro fight in 1935. He never weighed more than 165 until 1944. That's 9 years at MW. Marciano fought between 178 and 188 over 40 times and was 'Never' weight drained!! *If size don't matter why hasn't there been another 184 lb Heavyweight champion since little Rocky's little era 4 generations ago?*
*"SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES."* - Lennox Lewis *"NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT A PRIME TOP-NOTCH SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION."* - Ring Magazine
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while 185 pound Marciano came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
@@River553 37 year old Joe Louis had already been fightin "17yrs" with 68 fights and 96 fights before 2 million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing little Rocky. Joe's speedy reflexes were non-existent and it looked as if he was wadding through mud. And that 8 fight winning streak Joe had before fightin Rocky was a complete set-up using carefully selected hand-picked featherfisted opponents. 38/39 year old cruiserweight Journeyman Joe lost all throughout his entire career, beginning, middle and end. He had 49 wins 20 losses according to BoxRec. Walcott had already been fightin for "22yrs" with an abysmal 44% KO's before facing little Rocky. He definitely was not prime. Walcott Lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times. Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles had already been fightin "15yrs" with 95 fights before facing little Rocky. Charles had the lowest ever 42% KO's. His best boxing years were already behind him at light heavyweight, not moonlighting at cruiserweight. Charles Lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times. 42 year old grandfather light heavyweight Moore had already been fightin "20yrs" with 178 fights before facing little Rocky. Exactly 95% of his 141 TKO's came against welterweights, middleweights, light heavyweights and small cruiserweights. Moore was fighting professionally when little rocky was only TWELVE YEARS old. Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times. Meantime little cruiserweight Marciano only fought a measly "7yrs" before he abruptly "Quit" during his prime at only 31yrs of age. If you eliminate his secretive amateur/professional debut fight under the alias Rocky Mackjeanne, he actually fought "7yrs" because there was a 15 month gap between his 1st and 2nd fights. Read Mike Stanton to understand Rocky Mackjeanne vs. Les Epperson in Holyoke. Holyoke was in a circuit of gritty New England cities where ethnic rivalries played out in the boxing rings. Holyoke shoulda been named Bumville. Rocky Mackjeanne was shortened to Rocky Mack just before the fight. Little Rocky "Quitting" so soon is not only shameful but not fair to other genuine Heavyweights that had 15 to 20 year careers. Dozens of real-Heavyweights could have also retired undefeated if they had "Quit" after only "7yrs". Marciano was a "Quitter"!!!
@@River553JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. During his peak championship years, Walcott scored 7 wins with 5 KO's. Only one of those KO's came against a ranked fighter, that being Ezzard Charles. During this time Walcott also lost 7 times and suffered 10 count KO's 3 times and a 9 count once. In total fights during this time Walcott's record was 7-7. In title fights he went 2-6 with 1 KO win and 3 KO losses. He fought 3 different men in his 8 title fights, was defeated by each of them twice, KO'd by two of them and only defeated one of them. In his overall career, Walcott had a 49-20-1 record and was KO'd 6 times (BoxRec). Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman. Walcott scored 32 KO's in 70 fights. 8 of them came against fighters who were winless. The only two ranked fighters Walcott ever KO'd was an off the floor 10th round win over Curtis Sheppard and the lightning in the bottle KO of Ezzard Charles. Walcott is a prime example of boxing historians rating a fighter higher than he deserves based on impressive losses. Walcott was winless in all 4 of his fights vs Louis/Marciano and was KO'd 3 times. The fact that Walcott was granted 6 title attempts in a 6 year span speaks volumes about how weak the heavyweight division must have been at this time. Five of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss. Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, there is no way he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts. Walcott should at best be remembered not as a great heavyweight champion, but a good B+level Journeyman. [[[ If a fighter today had (20) losses and was KO'd (6) times he'd be considered an undercard B or C-level Journeyman, correct? Why is this ok for old-school fighters but not modern fighters? Wilder and Joshua only have (5) losses between them yet they are already considered nobodies. But it's perfectly fine for Walcott Charles Moore to have (68) losses! Lennox Lewis was KOd (2) times and his top-10 ranking has suffered ever since. But it's perfectly fine for Walcott Charles Moore to have been KOd (20) times! ]]] [[[ And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Lee Savold Lost (45) times and Ted Lowry Lost (68) times yet this is perfectly fine in the mindset of Marciano fans. Dare go to a Savold vs. Marciano vid and say one wrong thing about Savold and you'll immediately have fifteen Marciano fans attacking. Little Marciano is all exaggerated hype, nothing more nothing less. ]]]
there's this anecdote, I can't remember the source, that one reporter supposedly asked Archie Moore if there had been a moment in his fight against Marciano where he realized he was in some deep trouble, and Moore went "Yes, the first round." The reporter was understandably confused, cause the first round was the one where Moore knocked Marciano down, and Moore continued "I hit him harder than I have ever hit any man, and he just got up mad".
A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise... Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
To be a fighter you must have a noble Hearth, having a noble Hearth means you can’t be racist. ItaliansAmericans were victims of racism too, by the way.
When I was little my Dad used to watch boxing and I would just watch him watch boxing. My Dad fought in the military and was really good. His favorite fighter was Rocky Marciano. So everytime I got a chance to see a film of the Rock fighting, I would watch him. I read every book I could find, every article. I was obsessed because my Dad was my hero and I wanted to know more about his heroes. When Dad sparred and even taught me and my brother he taught us Rocky’s style. Staying low, constant head movement, etc. I remember the first time I saw Joe Frazier box, I knew “this guy is emulating Rocky.” He soon became my favorite fighter. Thanks to RU-vid I’ve long since pulled up every fight available of the Rock’s and it’s just incredible. It makes me realize what an amazing talent he was, but mainly makes me miss my Dad.
I got a little chocked up reading your post. Its refreshing to hear someone express love for their father. Our culture has become very hostile to father/child relationships. Good fathers make good people. Glad you had that experience.
How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula Of Transylvania Did. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
Ever wonder why little Marciano is always ranked so high? Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to exclude "WEIGHT" from the equation. That's why tiny-165 pound 'Heavyweight' champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800s is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe. How's it possible tiny dwarfism arms ranks higher than Fury Holmes Lewis Vitali Wladimir Foreman Bowe Tyson etc? Well now we all know why! Even though Heavyweight champions ranged from 165lbs (Fitzsimmons) to 328lbs (Valuev), ranking bodies still exclude "WEIGHT" from their metric, even though they STILL ACKNOWLEDGE SEVENTEEN (17) DIFFERENT "WEIGHT" CLASSES, imagine that. "AGE" is another code omitted from the metric. Algorithms don't see Moore was already fightin professionally when little rocky was only TWELVE YEARS old. Algorithms don't see Moore was 41 years "old" and "light" heavyweight moonlighting at Heavyweight. Algorithms don't see Louis's reflexes were non-existent. The Algorithms only see Marciano fought 4 Hall of Famers and went 49-0. That's why ALL Heavyweight rankings should be looked upon with a grain of salt. Unfortunately Rocky fanboys cling to his ranking as if it were life and death.
@@bobbyd5276 Did you get molested by a Rocky Marciano doll when you were a kid? Jesus, you act like he's knocking you off the all time rankings. Pretty sure Ali thought pretty highly of Marciano, is he a fanboy then?
Marciano was decapitated in a plane crash. I remember hearing the story of Joe Louis attending his funeral and saying words to the effect of, “The Lord is getting a beautiful man.” I heard that as a kid, and it stays with me to this day. Champions.
@@marcomaceri4161 How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
Robinson would have got a lot more respect if he didn't run from so many fighters we might have actually got to see some great fighters if he wasn't so scared refused to fight everyone from the black murderous row
even though this is old, when I saw the fight on ESPN classic one night, watching without having any knowledge of the fight, never saw a video clip, my jaw dropped when Walcott did and when the ref was counting I couldn't help but yell " why are you counting?!? call an ambulance!! ".
Wish he lived longer woukd loved to heard his opinions on 70s and 80s boxing. Very intelligent, astute person. Kind and respectful... But an animal inside the ring..
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
Zhang weighs 287. Fury 277. Ngannou 272. Makhmudov 260. Briggs 265. Ruiz 265. Grant 265. Foreman 260. Lennox 250. Vitali 250. Peter 250. Joshua 250. *Marciano 184 with 67" flyweight reach.* The average Heavyweight today weighs 250 with 80" albatross reach! *I know, i know Rocky fans still believe he could beat every Heavyweight that ever existed bcz he was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. He broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little Rocky is god , bcz when he walked the earth shook.* Rocky was actually 5' 9" (1.75 meters), according to Rocky Marciano's biographer John Cameron; his reach was 67" (1.70 meters) incredibly short for Heavyweight; by way of comparison, today's Bantamweights (115-118 lbs) average 67.7". And all the PEDs in the world ain't gonna help little dwarfism-arms grow longer. *I'm not being disrespectful, only realistic. Rocky was fantastic against light heavyweights but it would have been entirely different against topnotch Super Heavyweights.* Important. Willard/Carnera were also big but circus clowns! Marciano opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire "CAREER" record, not a partial record. Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation how good, or how bad they were. Professional boxers can easily be evaluated using grades A, B, C, D, and F which has been used in boxing for decades:* Lee Epperson - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks - 0 wins 1 loss with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone - 0 wins 3 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* John Edwards - 1 win 2 loss with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman - 1 win 6 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson - 4 wins 2 losses with 28% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft - 12 wins 8 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* James Connolly - 12 wins 9 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian - 15 wins 12 losses with 35% KOs *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson - 3 wins 10 losses with 0% KOs *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell 4 wins 17 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron - 4 wins 13 losses with 17% KOs *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato - 7 wins 13 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie - 10 wins 13 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard - 20 wins 16 losses with 15% KOs *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis - 32 wins 14 losses with 35% KOs *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio - 9 wins 15 losses with 4% KOs *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons - 9 wins 22 losses with 12% KOs *F-LEVEL* Art Henri -18 wins 29 losses with 18% KOs *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls - 20 wins 41 losses with 7% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) - 71 wins 68 losses with 30% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) - 24 wins 15 losses with 10% KOs *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic - 18 wins 12 losses with 33% KOs *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman - 22 wins 21 losses with 22% KOs *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate -12 wins 16 losses with 13% KOs *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold - 104 wins 45 losses with 50% KOs *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato - 56 wins 23 losses with 25% KOs *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson - 56 wins 27 losses with 51% KOs *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor - 31 wins 19 losses with 42% KOs *F-LEVEL* Fred Beshore - 35 wins 17 losses with 24% KOs *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans - 18 wins 8 losses with 50% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross - 19 wins 5 losses with 72% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn - 20 wins 4 losses with 58% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds - 53 wins 13 losses with 49% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards - 24 wins 9 losses with 39% KOs looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo - 16 wins 2 losses with 38% KOs looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell - 66 wins 14 losses with 46% KOs looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews - 90 wins 7 losses with 58% KOs is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible "Heavyweight" opponents to be respected as a legitimate "Heavyweight" champion?* *Even little Rocky's 5 best opponents: 3 light heavyweights and 2 cruiserweights -- Charles Moore LaStarza Layne Walcott -- LOST ((94)) times and were KO'D ((28)) times!!!* IT'S CLEAR AS DAY WHY HE WENT 49-0 *In the old days, ringers could boost their income by fighting repeatedly. Padding your record against weak opponents can yield good results- the real stumblebums are the guys who make a career of losing. In small-time fights, the less-talented fighter often gets the bulk of the cash; he is, after all, providing a valuable service by losing so reliably--The Ring Magazine* Name one, just one *"prime"* ATG fighter little Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Charles Moore Walcott Louis were *"prime"* when they fought Marciano?
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MDa lot of the guys you named aren’t even really C to B level more like D to E level competition Marciano is one of the biggest hype jobs ever
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869you dont know anything about boxing Everyone tries to build up their most promising boxers records to build up their confidence That list is incomplete
While stationed in England, Marciano and a fellow soldier named James Murphy robbed two Englishman, brutally beating them up in the process *--@ THE ROCK Sports Illustrated Vault Aug\23\1993.* They were court-martialed and convicted after which Marciano was sentenced to 7 years hard labour, Murphy 10 years, to be served in a British military prison. Marciano was released after 22 months and dishonorable discharged. Although Marciano was mysteriously and suspiciously allowed to rejoin the military for the duration of 1946 in order to receive an honorable discharge -@ *Unbeaten: Rocky Marciano's Fight for Perfection in a Crooked World by Mike Stanton May 29, 2018*
"His derelictions have always been minor enough to avoid trial by court martial but they have been consistent and numerous... I believe this man to be of no value to the army." - Major Richard L. Powell July 1944 - Gloucestershire, England Private Rocco Marchegiano poses for a mugshot after his arrest for felony assault and robbery, while serving in the US Army during World War 2. Marciano, along with another solider named James Murphy had been accused of robbing two Englishmen and assaulting them. When questioned, Marciano and Murphy claimed to have no knowledge of the incident but after the victims' items were found in their possession they were forced to change their story. Despite pleading his innocence, Marciano was found guilty and sentenced to 7 years hard labour but this was eventually reduced to 3 years - Marciano however only ended up serving 22 months. Murphy on the other hand was sentenced to 10 years. Marciano received a dishonorable discharge but mysteriously was allowed to re-join the army for a 12 month period in order to receive an honorable discharge. *"In all my years i have never heard of a dishonorable flipping back into an honorable. The fix was in. He was already protected."*
Marciano boarded a small Cessna 172 with pilot Glenn Belz, and Frank Farrell, the son of Louis Thomas Fratto, born Luigi Tommaso Giuseppe Fratto, also known as "Lew Farrell" and "Cock-eyed", an American labor racketeer and organized crime figure in Chicago, Illinois, and Des Moines, Iowa, from the 1930s to his death in 1967. A massive storm system challenged Belz's relative inexperience (231 hours of total flight time) as the plane flew west from Chicago over Iowa. Trying to land at a small airfield outside Newton, Belz crashed the plane into a tree about two miles short of the intended runway. On August 31, 1969, all aboard, including Marciano, died on impact. It was all Rocky's fault, he pressured the amateur pilot into flying even though he knew they were headed towards severe thunderstorms. Why? What was so important in Des Moines? His business was loansharking and he had to collect 35K. Which is equivalent to 290K today.
@@StevenHunterPangians1 boohoo cry about it..... it was still entertaining fisticuffs to watch.... Idgaf mafia or whatever, the fights were good and that's wht counts
I can’t help but notice how he did not continue to pummel him when he was not completely down and the ref did not stop the fight but Rocky did. A true sportsman.
YES unlike MIke Tyson whom had To be pulled off a downed opponent EVERYTIME = he just kept punching them like an animal...! Mike totally emulated Rocky style except NOT Rocky's merciful triumphant class to certainly NOT attempt to kill his opponent like Mike seemed to always do in seeing they were down to not do further brain damage to them...! Just my observation...!
@@cosmopetrone8514 And that simply makes you a nitwit. Because he never fought any Greats that weren't already well past their prime... So how the hell can he be the Greatest & he never beat the Greatest boxers of his era. He DUCKED the prime heavyweights!
@@cosmopetrone8514 Lol... Why do people have to be sooooo damned sensitive. If calling you a "nitwit" hurt your feelings that bad, lock yourself in your room! Because such an opinion is pretty stupid. Because Marciano's body of work was easily the weakest among all top Great Heavyweights!
@@kiinbcde Muhammmad used to walk around the house covered in his own semen and make her child bride Aisha scrape the dried up semen off his clothes wearing what he would go to Salat - *Sahih Al Bukhari* 230 - _Narrated Sulaiman bin Yasar_ : *I asked `Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "I used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ🐷) and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible"* 232 - _Narrated `Aishah_ : *_I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet (ﷺ🐷) and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them_* *Sunan An Nasa'i* - *Chapter* : *Rubbing Semen From A Garment(188)* *299* - _It was narrated that 'Aishah said_ : *_"I used to see it on the garment of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ🐷) and scratch it off"_* 296 - _It was narrated that 'Aishah said_ : *"I used to scrape the Janabah." On another occasion she said: "The semen from the garment of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ🐷)"* *Sunan Ibn Majah* 537 - _It was narrated that 'Aishah said_ : *_"I often scraped it (semen) from the garment of the Messenger of Allah with my hand"_*
@@adrianbelko7683 @Adrian The son of adultery, your history is full of blood, wars, and molestation of children in churches. Secondly, your flimsy suspicions have been answered thousands of times, but you are not seeking the truth.
Rocky Was one of the greatest ever. He never had that 50th fight because he passed away in a plane crash. He will truly be missed by me. I was born in 1985. I never got to meet him. But i seen him fight on replay fights on tv.
Marciano said his best weight he ever fought at was, "186lbs." Tyson was 220lbs at his fastest & best. About 235lbs at his heaviest. Rocky didn't have the speed or footwork to keep Tyson away or the skill or technique to keep him off. And saying that Rocky was tough… well,, tough can get you killed in the ring against a super power puncher with superior skills. This fight wouldn't last 2 rounds with a prime Tyson. And a non-prime Tyson would still be heavier and stronger. Rocky never faced anyone of merit who was near their prime. You wouldn't want Tyson to be your first. Bigger, faster, stronger. With malicious intent. No way Rocky would beat a prime Iron Mike.
As a cruiserweights worth little 5' 9" 185lb Marciano receives 7 out of 10 score. But as a Heavyweights worth he only receives a 2 out of 10 score when compared to topnotch Super Heavyweights Fury Ibeabuchi Lewis Vitali Foreman Bruno Ruddock Witherspoon Joyce Parker Wladimir just to name a few.
@@bobbyd5276 👉People should only be compared to others during their time. They lived in. 👉He’s a 10 out of a 10 in all categories during his lifetime. Everything evolves u can’t compare people from the past with more recent types it’s not a fair comparison. They were what they were during that time. He was a 10 out of 10 he was the mike Tyson of his time.
@@johnnyt.sollitto512 37 year old Joe Louis had already been fightin "17yrs" with 68 fights and 96 fights before 2 million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing little Rocky. Joe's speedy reflexes were non-existent and it looked as if he was wadding through mud. And that 8 fight winning streak Joe had before fightin Rocky was a complete set-up using carefully selected hand-picked featherfisted opponents. 38/39 year old cruiserweight Journeyman Joe lost all throughout his entire career, beginning, middle and end. He had 49 wins 20 losses according to BoxRec. Walcott had already been fightin for "22yrs" with an abysmal 44% KO's before facing little Rocky. He definitely was not prime. Walcott Lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times. Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles had already been fightin "15yrs" with 95 fights before facing little Rocky. Charles had the lowest ever 42% KO's. His best boxing years were already behind him at light heavyweight, not moonlighting at cruiserweight. Charles Lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times. 42 year old grandfather light heavyweight Moore had already been fightin "20yrs" with 178 fights before facing little Rocky. Exactly 95% of his 141 TKO's came against welterweights, middleweights, light heavyweights and small cruiserweights. Moore was fighting professionally when little rocky was only TWELVE YEARS old. Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times. Meantime little cruiserweight Marciano only fought a measly "7yrs" before he abruptly "Quit" during his prime at only 31yrs of age. If you eliminate his secretive amateur/professional debut fight under the alias Rocky Mackjeanne, he actually fought "7yrs" because there was a 15 month gap between his 1st and 2nd fights. Read Mike Stanton to understand Rocky Mackjeanne vs. Les Epperson in Holyoke. Holyoke was in a circuit of gritty New England cities where ethnic rivalries played out in the boxing rings. Holyoke shoulda been named Bumville. Rocky Mackjeanne was shortened to Rocky Mack just before the fight. Little Rocky "Quitting" so soon is not only shameful but not fair to other genuine Heavyweights that had 15 to 20 year careers. Dozens of real-Heavyweights could have also retired undefeated if they had "Quit" after only "7yrs". Marciano was a "Quitter"!!!
@@johnnyt.sollitto512JOURNEYMAN JERSEY JOE WALCOTT EXPOSED There are few heavyweight champions in the history of boxing that are better known for their losses than their wins. Jersey Joe Walcott's high profile losses is what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. During his peak championship years, Walcott scored 7 wins with 5 KO's. Only one of those KO's came against a ranked fighter, that being Ezzard Charles. During this time Walcott also lost 7 times and suffered 10 count KO's 3 times and a 9 count once. In total fights during this time Walcott's record was 7-7. In title fights he went 2-6 with 1 KO win and 3 KO losses. He fought 3 different men in his 8 title fights, was defeated by each of them twice, KO'd by two of them and only defeated one of them. In his overall career, Walcott had a 49-20-1 record and was KO'd 6 times (BoxRec). Based on these less than impressive stats it is difficult to consider him anymore than a good Journeyman. Walcott scored 32 KO's in 70 fights. 8 of them came against fighters who were winless. The only two ranked fighters Walcott ever KO'd was an off the floor 10th round win over Curtis Sheppard and the lightning in the bottle KO of Ezzard Charles. Walcott is a prime example of boxing historians rating a fighter higher than he deserves based on impressive losses. Walcott was winless in all 4 of his fights vs Louis/Marciano and was KO'd 3 times. The fact that Walcott was granted 6 title attempts in a 6 year span speaks volumes about how weak the heavyweight division must have been at this time. Five of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss. Had Walcott been fighting in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, there is no way he would have been granted this many opportunities after losing so many title attempts. Walcott should at best be remembered not as a great heavyweight champion, but a good B+level Journeyman. [[[ If a fighter today had (20) losses and was KO'd (6) times he'd be considered an undercard B or C-level Journeyman, correct? Why is this ok for old-school fighters but not modern fighters? Wilder and Joshua only have (5) losses between them yet they are already considered nobodies. But it's perfectly fine for Walcott Charles Moore to have (68) losses! Lennox Lewis was KOd (2) times and his top-10 ranking has suffered ever since. But it's perfectly fine for Walcott Charles Moore to have been KOd (20) times! ]]] [[[ And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Lee Savold Lost (45) times and Ted Lowry Lost (68) times yet this is perfectly fine in the mindset of Marciano fans. Dare go to a Savold vs. Marciano vid and say one wrong thing about Savold and you'll immediately have fifteen Marciano fans attacking. Little Marciano is all exaggerated hype, nothing more nothing less. ]]]
37 year old Joe Louis had already been fightin "17yrs" with 68 fights and 96 fights before 2 million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing little Rocky. Joe's speedy reflexes were non-existent and it looked as if he was wadding through mud. And that 8 fight winning streak Joe had before fightin Rocky was a complete set-up using carefully selected hand-picked featherfisted opponents. 38/39 year old cruiserweight Journeyman Joe lost all throughout his entire career, beginning, middle and end. He had 49 wins 20 losses according to BoxRec. Walcott had already been fightin for "22yrs" with an abysmal 44% KO's before facing little Rocky. He definitely was not prime. Walcott Lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times. Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles had already been fightin "15yrs" with 95 fights with an abysmal 43% KO's before facing little Rocky. His best boxing years were already behind him at light heavyweight, not moonlighting at cruiserweight. Charles Lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times. 41 year old light heavyweight Archie Moore had already been fightin "20yrs" with 178 fights before facing little Rocky in 1955. Exactly 95% of his 141 TKO's came against welterweights, middleweights, light heavyweights and small cruiserweights. Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times. Meantime little cruiserweight Rocky Marciano only fought a measly "8yrs" with only 49 fights before he abruptly quit during his prime at only 31yrs of age. If you eliminate his debut fight he actually fought "7yrs" because there was a 15 month gap between his 1st fight and 2nd fight. Little Rocky quitting so soon is not only shameful but not fair to other genuine Heavyweights that he's surpassed in the top 10 rankings. No way in hell this little dude should be ranked higher than Holmes Lewis Foreman Vitali Wladimir Holyfield Tyson Bowe Liston Fury Wilder.
Folks still livin in the past talkin bout how some little 185 lb man is the greatest Heavyweight of all time. Do you see how funny that is? Marciano wasn't a Heavyweight period, and i dont care how you try to justify that he was. Can you name any prime topnotch 200+lb Heavyweights he fought? I know none of you can since he never fought any. But somehow Marciano is the greatest Heavyweight of all time right? This is 2023 and i thought we'd be over this little-man syndrome by now. Rocco Francis Marchegiano was lucky to have fought in an era when his mafioso cousins monopolized boxing and protected him. His best opponents were middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights. Marchegiano isn't even top 10 Cruiserweight let alone top 40 Heavyweight.
My Dad loved him. He's definitely my top all time favorite. Of course his time was long before mine, but I always love watching his old fights. Definitely one of the best to ever do it, and one of the nicest guys anyone could know from what is said.
Rocky was such an articulate respectful intelligent man out of the ring. I always enjoy listening to his interviews as he can really hold your attention when speaking. In the ring he was a relentless wrecking machine of incredible stamina and a chin of iron. He knew the game inside and out and knew his opponents weak spots and vulnerabilities long before he got in the ring with them. A true legend.
Marciano had been married to the same woman, the former Barbara Cousins, the daughter of a Brockton cop, since Dec. 31, 1950, but the union unraveled long before the decade was done. Barbara tended to obesity, had a serious drinking problem and smoked heavily-she would die of lung cancer in 1974-whereas her husband's tastes ran more to svelte, statuesque blondes, that single glass of wine and smokeless rooms. "He couldn't stand his married life" says Saccone "There was nothing compatible between them." @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI So the mesh included people, such as the late Lindy Ciardelli on the West Coast and Paterniti on the East Coast, whose job was to help feed Marciano's prodigious sexual appetite. "Rock liked girls, know what I mean?" Paterniti says. "Nobody wants me to tell you about it, but Rock was insane about girls; that's all he wanted to do, all the time. He constantly had •••ies, night and day.... A friend of mine in New York got me and Rocky thousands of girls. Honestly, literally a thousand girls. We had girls every single day and night. I carried a suitcase full of electric massagers and emotion lotion and all kinds of creams and oils." @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI "That a woman be waiting for Rocky was as requisite for his appearance as the folded $100 bills." "If he ever went to some place and there was not a girl waiting for him, he'd never come back," says Santarelli, his underworld pal. @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
Hey, I really admire "Rocky" Marciano. Truly a "Class-Act" and a half. A genuine, compassionate, sincere gentleman. Very humble human being as well. He was a good true friend to Joe Louis, all the way til' the very end.When Joe Louis was on his "death bed," "Rocky" was there by his 🛌 bedside, which everyone else deserted the destitute Joe Louis. People should know this about "Rocky" Marciano. Marciano and Jake La Motta are my "Personal Favorites".......
@@richardpeetrinpeetrin9817 NOT 🚫true , you MUST have mistaken Max Schmeling for Rocky M. sorry to Correct U but Marciano died tragically in a plane crash in the late 60s & Joe Louis died in the earliest 80s...& so Joe's German rival , Max,was a lifelong good friend , gave financial aid & paid for Louis's funeral expenses in the end.
All hail the greatest heavyweight champion of all time! The one and ONLY UNDEFEATED heavyweight champion of the world! ROCKY and this ain't no movie! Respect from East Los Angeles 🐾🐾👣
@@boredoflife8703 It was the heat of the moment and the heat of the landing/combo. Rocky went quickly to his corner right after it, respecting the knocked down Joe.
The fact that this mans speech and cognitive function wasn't affected boxing in those days, 15 rounders as well and his come forward toe to toe brawling, is a true testament to his name
They also didn't punch as hard back then so you need to take that into account. Foreman and Shavers destroyed more sentences than a modern day High School graduate and that's saying something. Cheers and Merry Christmas.
@@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube human biology has been the same back then and in modern times so I think your comment about them not hitting harder back then is unfounded, also the gloves had a lot less padding back then and the referees would allow fighters to take a lot more punishment than today's standards before they would stop a fight, also merry Christmas to you I hope you have a good one 👍
@@naeemahmed2748 How many losses did the BEST Heavyweight Champions of All Time have: Lewis 2,, Holmes 6,, Ali 5,, Vitali 2,, Foreman 5,, Tyson 6,, Wladimir 5,, Bowe 1,, Liston 4,, Louis 3,, Holyfield 10,, Frazier 4,, Norton 7,, Tunney 1,, Dempsey 6,, Jack Johnson 11....Who's missing? Oh, little Marciano is missing. Why? "SHOW ME A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION WITHOUT A LOSS AND I'LL SHOW YOU A FIGHTER THAT FOUGHT A LOT OF NOBODIES" -- Lennox Lewis Cruiserweight Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott 49W 20L 39-Year Old Club Fighter. Joe Louis 66W 3L Over The Hill Came Back From The Dead Before Count Dracula. Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Ezzard Charles 95W 25L Club Fighter With More Beatings Than Curley of The Three Stooges. Welterweight-Middleweight-Lightheavyweight-Lightcruiserweight-Archie Moore 186W 23L 41-Year Old Grandfather was Factually Born in 1913. Archie was Already Fightin Professionally When tiny Rocky was Only 12-Years Old!!! Pick a Decade.. 60s,, 70s,, 80s,, 90s,, 2000s? He would have been destroyed in all of them! Little Marciano only steered towards zombies and mediocre opposition at best.. "Fight No One and Quit While You Are Ahead"
@@naeemahmed2748 Two Hall of Fame light heavyweights Charles & Moore simply moved up for the money because the division was completely void of any authentic 200+ lb Heavyweights. Name ONE top-notch prime 'Heavyweight' Marciano fought?
He was so humble he gave his opponent much credit and for himself he just said he thought he hurt him and that he was able to knock him out on the 14th... A true gentleman and a legend of a boxer 👏👏👏
37yr old Joe Louis had already been fighting *"17yrs"* with 68 fights and 96 fights before 2 million soldiers during his 4 year military service before facing the 184 lb light heavyweight. *Joe’s speed and punching power had all but evaporated, evidenced by him scoring only 2 KO's in his last 12 fights.* Louis was a sitting duck. By contrast, Marciano was just entering his prime. 40yr old cruiser Walcott had already been fighting *"22yrs"* with 68 fights before facing the light heavyweight. Walcott had an abysmal 44% KO's. *This is important. Walcott lost more than 4 years when he was KO'd by a tremendous right cross smash from the 6' 4" 256 lb giant Abe Simon in 1940-02-12. Walcott did not return till 1944-06-07, 4 years 4 months.* Journeyman Joe lost throughout his entire career, beginning, middle, end. *Walcott lost (20) times and was KO'd (6) times.* Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles had already been fighting *"15yrs"* with 95 fights before facing the light heavyweight. Charles had the lowest ever 42% KO's. *Charles was factually showing traces of Lou Gehrig's disease against Walcott in 1951.* It's in Ezzard's biography 'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life' by William Dettloff. *Charles lost (25) times and was KO'd (7) times.* 42yr old light heavyweight Archie Moore had already been fighting *"20yrs"* with 178 fights before facing the light heavyweight. Archie said, *"Rocky Marciano was about 15 years younger than I was."* --@ Archie Moore Talks 2007TBears Wouldn't that put grandfather Archie in his mid 40's? *Moore Lost (23) times and was KO'd (7) times.* 179 lb light heavyweight Rocky Marciano only fought *"8yrs"* before he abruptly quit during his prime at only 31yrs of age. If you eliminate his secretive debut fight under the alias Rocky Mackjeanne, he actually fought *"7yrs"* bcz there was a 15 month gap between his 1st and 2nd fights. Read Mike Stanton to understand Rocky Mackjeanne vs. Les Epperson in Holyoke. Rocky Mackjeanne was shortened to Rocky Mack just before the fight. *You have to respect every competitor for stepped into the ring but after studying all of his opponents my gut instinct also says Rocky is one of the biggest frauds in boxing history. One way or another. 49 wins 20 losses Journeyman Joe getting 6 attempts at the title in 6 years proves how weak and fraudulent the division actually was.*
Joe Louis' 8 fight winning streak which helped him become the #1 ranked contender before he faced the 184 lb light heavyweight. Below is the *"SIX" (6)* boxers Louis beat: #1) 196 lb Cesar Brian (Decision) Brian had an abysmal 36% KO's. Brian's career record of 49 wins 11 losses looks okay until ya see (25) of his wins came against his fellow Argentinians. #2) 191 lb Freddie Beshore (KO) Beshore had an abysmal 24% KO's. His career record was 28 wins 10 losses. 5' 9" Beshore was on a 4-fight losing streak before he faced Joe. Why would Joe even consider fighting someone who had just lost 4 fights? *We all know why!!!* #3) 187 lb Omelio Agramonte (Decision) *Oh wow, oh my, Joe looked terrible, absolutely terrible. What was Joe thinking, he should have stayed retired. I watched their entire fight and Joe's combinations were completely gone. Agramonte looked as if he only weighed 160 lbs. What a shame.* #4) 194 lb Andy Walker (TKO) 17-8-7 Andy had an abysmal 17% KO's. His career record was 18 wins 20 losses. *It's clear as day what's going on here. Smh.* #5) 188 lb Omelio Agramonte -- (Decision AGAIN) -- Why Twice? *We all know why!!!* #6) 190 lb Lee Savold (KO) Even the announcer said, *"Joe Louis reflexes are but a memory."* These two should have been retired. *They just pushed Louis through towards Marciano so everyone could fill their pockets with $$$.* Savold had a career 45 losses and was KO'd 12 times. #7) 197 lb Cesar Brian -- (Decision AGAIN) -- Why Twice? *We all know why!!!* #8) 180 lb Jimmy Bivins (Decision) 5 feet 8.8 inches (1.75 m) light heavyweight Bivins had an abysmal 27% KO's. Yes little Jimmy was a Hall of Famer. But he was a Hall of Famer @ Light heavyweight, not Heavyweight. This is the *'"Heavyweight"'* division we're taking about right? *Talk about bum-of-the-month-club, WOW. A prime Joe would have easily accumulated 8 knockouts against those powder-puffers. It was obviously a predetermined carefully hand-picked set-up.* Boxing-elites, Italian-mafioso, and the IRS really needed Joe to be ranked #1 inorder to get their Louis vs. Marciano $$-SHOW-$$. The only loyalty the Italian-mob had was to $$$. Hey, they took 50% of Marciano's earnings and all ticket sales, all in all $2 Million. $2 Million in 1955 is equivalent to $21 Million today. Carbo and Weill had complete control over Rocky and carefully selected his opponents. *In May of 1950, the IRS finished a full audit of Louis's past returns and announced, that with interest and penalties, he owed the government more than $500,000. Louis had no choice but to return to the ring. The Louis camp negotiated a deal with the IRS under which 36yr old Louis would come out of retirement, with all his net proceeds going to the IRS. After boxing Joe ended up in the pro wrestling circuit and they still took his money. But that gig finished when Cowboy Rocky Lee lunged onto him with both feet, his boots colliding with Louis' torso. The crash cracked three of his ribs. It left him with a cardiac contusion and officially ended his stint as a wrestler. Children used to send him one dollar in the mail. In his biography he said a child walked up and handed him a dime. When Joe was broken physically and mentally the IRS finally stopped collecting. He lived with friends until he died.*
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD who did he avoid? If he fought all the top contenders when he was active then quit at the top then I can't see what criticism there can be of him.
Walcott being granted *(6)* title attempts in a *(5½)* year span (1947 12-05 to 1953 05-15) proves how shallow and weak the so-called 'Heavyweight' division was at that time. *And (5) of his title opportunities came immediately after a loss!!!* This is important. *Giant Abe Simon put Walcott into retirement for 4 years 4 months, from 1940 02-12 to 1944 06-07. It's virtually impossible that Walcott was even remotely prime when he fought the little 184 lb light heavyweight Marciano. Rocky himself said Walcott was only 90% of himself @ 'The Marciano Tapes' #3.* Walcott's most notable victories include wins over light heavyweight Charles, light heavyweight Maxim and light heavyweight Johnson. Light heavyweight Charles lost *(25)* times and was KO'd *(7)* times. Light heavyweight Maxim lost *(29)* times. Light heavyweight Johnson lost *(11)* times and was KO'd *(5)* times. Journeyman Jersey Joe Walcott lost *(20)* times and was KO'd *(6)* times, he was C-LEVEL at best.
By way of comparison undisputed undefeated no°1 p4p bantamweight Naoya Inoue has 67½″ reach, longer than light heavyweight Rocky's 67" reach. Inoue is 5' 5", Rocky 5' 9". Rocky fans continuously try to debate me. What's there to debate? How to magically make Rocky bigger? Throughout his career he only weighed 178 to 186. History cannot be changed. Charles Moore Marciano etcetera were light heavyweights period. As a matter of fact the overwhelming majority of that division was filled with middleweights and/or light heavyweights masquerading as Heavyweights. Perfect example being Harry 'Kid' Matthews who was for the most part a career middleweight. Matthews weighed a mere 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130, and you call that *"Heavyweight"* division? Shouldn't one have to fight topnotch genuine Heavyweights inorder to be respected as an authentic *"Heavyweight"* champion?
Charles Bravely fought (20) years........little Rocky only 7 years Walcott Bravely fought (23) years........little Rocky only 7 years Moore Bravely fought (27) years..........little Rocky only 7 years Savold Bravely fought (19) years.........little Rocky only 7 years Lowry Bravely fought (16) years..........little Rocky only 7 years Charles Bravely fought (121) times.......little Rocky Quit at 49 Walcott Bravely fought (70) times.........little Rocky Quit at 49 Moore Bravely fought (220) times.........little Rocky Quit at 49 Savold Bravely fought (142) times........little Rocky Quit at 49 Lowry Bravely fought (149) times.........little Rocky Quit at 49 Charles Lost (25) times and was KOd (7) times Walcott Lost (20) times and was KOd (6) times Moore Lost (23) times and was KOd (7) times Savold Lost (45) times and was KOd (12) times Lowry Lost (68) times and was KOd (3) times Shocking isn't it? We never see these stats because they are always suppressed. Imagine if today's Heavyweights Fury and Usyk had LOSING records like that? They would be NOBODIES!!! Little cruiserweight Marciano only fought a measly "7yrs" before he abruptly "Quit" during his prime at only 31yrs of age. If you eliminate his secretive amateur/professional debut fight under the alias Rocky Mackjeanne, he actually fought "7yrs" because there was a 15 month gap between his 1st and 2nd fights. Read Mike Stanton to understand Rocky Mackjeanne vs. Les Epperson in Holyoke. Holyoke was in a circuit of gritty New England cities where ethnic rivalries played out in the boxing rings. Holyoke shoulda been named Bumville. Rocky Mackjeanne was shortened to Rocky Mack just before the fight. Little Rocky "Quitting" so soon is not only shameful but not fair to other genuine Heavyweights that had 15 to 20 year careers. Dozens of real-Heavyweights could have also retired undefeated if they had "Quit" after only "7yrs". Marciano was a "Quitter"!!!
Consider that in the December 1962 Ring magazine poll of 40 boxing experts it was Jack Dempsey that was rated the # 1 Heavyweight of all time with Joe Louis 2nd, Jack Johnson 3rd and Rocky Marciano finishing a distant 9th, way behind Dempsey. If he was considered 9th in 1962 how does he propel to the top 5, when since then we have had Muhammad Ali who faced much tougher competition, the big power hitting George Foreman, Larry Holmes who made 20 title defenses, the bigger, faster and more powerful Mike Tyson, and the giant Lennox Lewis who at 6’ 5” 245 pounds would enjoy a 60 pound weight advantage over Rocky? This is a key point. Nat Fleischer rated Marciano at # 10, Charley Rose rated him at # 9, McCallum's survey of old-timers had him at # 9. No major historian who saw Maricano in their lifetime thought he was a top 9 all time heavyweight and 67 years have passed since Rocky retired. WTF? HOW DOES tiny DWARFISM-ARMS GO FROM 9TH PLACE DURING THE EARLY 1960s TO TOP 4 GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT IN 2023? Because his ranking is determined by modern computer metric algorithms. Problem is this man-made program was coded to exclude "WEIGHT" from the equation. That's why tiny-165 pound 'Heavyweight' champion Bob Fitzsimmons from the 1800s is ranked ahead of giant Riddick Bowe. Even though Heavyweight champions ranged from 165lbs (Fitzsimmons) to 328lbs (Valuev), ranking bodies still exclude "WEIGHT" from their metric, even though they ACKNOWLEDGE SEVENTEEN (17) DIFFERENT "WEIGHT" CLASSES!!! "AGE" is another code omitted from the metric. Algorithms don't see Moore was already fightin professionally when little rocky was only TWELVE YEARS old. Algorithms don't see Charles and Moore were "light" heavyweights moonlighting at Heavyweights. Algorithms can't see Joe Louis's reflexes were non-existent and he clearly telegraphed his punches. The Algorithms only acknowledge Marciano went 49-0 and beat 4 Hall of Famers. That's why all polls and rankings should be looked upon with a grain of salt.
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD dude was a heavy ass hitter and you haven't even been in a pro setting so you can't even be considered a quitter shut the hell up
@@Stout_Krout_Columbia_MD so, you are the judge to determine how a boxer career should last, right? 🤦 Marciano never said anything about his record or why he retired so early, you are making assumptions based on your freaking stupid preferences and just embarrassing yourself... you came to insult a guy, dead for many years now, complimenting one of his rivals in this video, because he was a gentleman and you aren't, and he's one of the best ever, like it or not... deal with it
Marciano fanboys describe him as being so fierce that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Y'all have all these Rocky vids saturated with so much exaggerated hyperbolic nonsense that it's laughable. Who's ribs, jaws, noses, eye-sockets, collar-bones, did little Rocky break? WAITING---TIC--TOC--TIC--TOC ..... ""NOBODY""!!!! ""ZERO""!!!! Roland LaStarza with all his supposed 'Broken Bones' and 'Ruptured Blood Vessels' only had minor surgery, what's the big deal? Y'all act as if both his arms were decapitated. When Roland left boxing he went on to a very lucrative TV acting career. Roland simply had tiny miniscule bone-chips removed from his elbow just like David Tua did after his fight with Ibeabuchi. It's a common boxing injury because everyone blocks punches using their forearms & elbows. Besides LaStarza said, "I already had elbow problems before i even fought Marciano." I have the article. Here's a newspaper article about Layne's tooth: "Rex Layne lost a left upper tooth..the tooth broke at the gums when Marciano caught the Utahn in the mouth with a full right hand. Layne was taken immediately after the fight to a New York dentist to have the teeth X-rayed and also for treatment on a broken tooth." Layne's handlers said, "the tooth went out with the gumshield." So Layne only sustained ONE (1) broken tooth! Then he fought Charles exactly 3 months later. What's the big deal? Folks break their teeth all the time skateboarding or slippin-n-fallin on the ice etcetera. "He punched out almost every tooth in Rex Lyne's mouth and sent his gum guard into the crowd. It take massive power to do that. If Layne was 6'6 240+ it wouldn't of made any difference." -- written by a Rocky fanboy 12yrs ago (misinformation at it's finest). Don't be so gullible, Marciano only fed on former middleweights and light heavyweights moonlighting as Heavyweights. He was faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The Italian infant of Krypton was Superman. Marciano broke 1,247 bones, knocked out 4,679 teeth, and ruptured 792 blood vessels. I also know for a fact that little rocco is god , because when he walked the earth shook.
@@keemoifyyou don't seem to understand. Tyson wasn't undefeated and he also didn't have as many flights. That's cute that you have a little crush on Tyson, but he wasn't nearly the fighter that Rocky was.
I reckon Tyson is Amazing and powerful, intimidating and all that, but Rocky was as tough as all fuck with a a massive, and a granite chin. Plus he was underfeated, and fought warriors
The Blockbuster didn't have to hit him while he was down like that. Still one of the greatest of all time. Unorthodox and arguably best pound for pound power puncher the sport has ever seen
Marciano had been married to the same woman, the former Barbara Cousins, the daughter of a Brockton cop, since Dec. 31, 1950, but the union unraveled long before the decade was done. Barbara tended to obesity, had a serious drinking problem and smoked heavily-she would die of lung cancer in 1974-whereas her husband's tastes ran more to svelte, statuesque blondes, that single glass of wine and smokeless rooms. "He couldn't stand his married life" says Saccone "There was nothing compatible between them." @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI So the mesh included people, such as the late Lindy Ciardelli on the West Coast and Paterniti on the East Coast, whose job was to help feed Marciano's prodigious sexual appetite. "Rock liked girls, know what I mean?" Paterniti says. "Nobody wants me to tell you about it, but Rock was insane about girls; that's all he wanted to do, all the time. He constantly had •••ies, night and day.... A friend of mine in New York got me and Rocky thousands of girls. Honestly, literally a thousand girls. We had girls every single day and night. I carried a suitcase full of electric massagers and emotion lotion and all kinds of creams and oils." @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI "That a woman be waiting for Rocky was as requisite for his appearance as the folded $100 bills." "If he ever went to some place and there was not a girl waiting for him, he'd never come back," says Santarelli, his underworld pal. @1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI
As early as 1400BC, the Susruta of India advocated the ingestion of testes. Likewise, the ancient Egyptians accorded medicinal powers to the testes --by Charles E. Yesalis Pennsylvania University & Michael S. Bahrke, Human Kinetics - History of Doping in Sport 1935 scientists, led by chemist Adolf Butenandt, develop anabolics as a way to treat testosterone deficiency. Butenandt would later win the Nobel Prize. 1940-45 Anabolics is used by soldiers to promote aggressiveness and physical strength. Retrospectively, according to his physician, Hitler's mental state toward the end of his life exhibits characteristics that some scientists associate with heavy steroid use: mania, acute paranoid psychoses, overly aggressive and violent behavior--(symptoms Marciano suffered)--e.g. @ "1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI" 1945-47 Anabolic steroids are used to help reverse the wasting effects of war and concentration-camp imprisonment. The use of drugs to enhance physical performance has been a feature of human competition since the beginning of recorded history. Some time in the late 40s top professional boxers would have had access to PEDs, as athletes in the Olympics certainly did. By the 50s it was common knowledge that PEDs gave you a physical boost and boxers across the world would have been trying to get their hands on some. Athletes started to use roids in the 1930s and by the 1950s they were prolific. To think millionaire Marciano was drug free is ludacris. During his time Rocky Marciano was the most popular professional athlete in the world and he had the best physicians helping him--💊💊💊🤢💉💉💉
Nobel Prize winners Butenandt and Hanisch created the first synthetic version of testosterone from cholesterol in August of 1935. Synthetic testosterone was made available to the medical community for experimentation and treatment. * In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, Rocky would run 6-7 miles a day. His uncle, Charlie Piccento, said he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one. * Ben Bently, Rocky's press agent, said after signing for a fight he would increase his running in the morning to 9-10 miles. And then the last week before a fight he would increase his running to 12-15 miles in the mornings. EVERY morning. "He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one," and "EVERY morning." [[ He was definitely using!!! ]] Marciano wore a hair piece when he was older, which proves that he had a deceitful nature. He would also go into fits of rage in personal life during which he would attack people. He'd hold folks out high window if they would not pay up. He'd even hit payphones off the wall if he could not retrieve his dime--@1993/08/23 THE ROCK - Sports Illustrated Vault | SI THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING Rocco Francis Marchegiano 💊💊🤢💉💉 USED!!!
@Alexmurphy5289 😂😂 really, the hardest right hand in the history of heavyweight? Come on ,dude barely weighted 185, in today time he would be a light heavyweight, enough said...
Notice how respectful Rocky was about his opponents - the tougher they were, the more he respected them. And no trash talk nonsense, unlike today's fighters.
Champion Boxing right now consists of 12, 3 minute rounds. 36 minutes of fighting total. Rocky fought in the 15 round days (45 minute bout). In the 13th round they had both already fought for over 36 minutes. And rock still got a clean walk off KO. That's fucking insane.
